It's corporate oligarchs. The 700 billionaires or so in the USA and really it would just take peter thiel, Elon musk, the Koch brothers, Jeff bozos, and the Waltons to really decide they wanted everything.
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Trump Pentagon pick had been flagged by fellow service member as possible 'Insider Threat'
Pete Hegseth, the Army National Guard veteran and Fox News host nominated by Donald Trump to lead the Department of Defense, was flagged as a possible “Insider Threat” by a fellow service member.
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Moving this here since I don't think it's welcome in the other thread.
I think we may have been talking past each other, to a point. When I say blame the running back, I don't mean pin the majority of blame on the running back. I mean, blame them for being irresponsible with their vote. I don't know if you saw my edit, but I listed what I think are the main factors to Harris losing. I do maintain that if you don't vote, you don't get to point fingers.
This is something I've been musing over. I don't think the results of this last election are going to move the Democrats to the left. The amount of minorities who decided economic matters supersede social matters is somewhat surprising, and I think Democrats are more likely to work to get them back than they are to getting closer to progressives.
Except it’s entirely pointless to blame the running back and you look like a fool doing it. Either they are important enough to be part of the strategy or you don’t get to blame them for the loss.
Saw it, responded meanly and then deleted my mean response. Didn’t really see anything to discuss in it.
Oh I’m under no delusions that the democrats will move to the left. They didn’t after they lost to Bush and Trump. Fuck they didn’t even move left when Obama ran a lefty campaign and won huge.
But if there is a time to cut out the cancerous idiots always pulling the democrats rightward it’s now when their entire strategy has been exposed as worthless.
I could be wrong, but I don't think anything "moves" (individual) Democrats to the right/left, it's more about the quantity of people who identify as right-/left-leaning that decide to register as Democrats/leave the Democratic Party.
--Patrick
"Right leaning democrat" is really a redundant statement. Neoliberalism is a right wing ideology, they are only left of the GOP who have become outright fascists. Margaret fucking Thatcher favored neoliberalism, if you need any more proof. There is no left among the major American political parties, there's only the illusion of it because the extremes of the right have been steadily advancing further right for the past 40 years.
You are wrong. You can look at Harris herself to see how she in particular ran in the primary vrs how she ran in the general. Which couldn’t possibly have been based on any kind of indepth analysis of the number of people who joined the Democratic Party vrs. How many people left the Democratic Party. It was a strategy that was chosen based off where the country is at. And it was a strategy that has show itself as unfounded in reality.