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Armadillo

Denbrought said:
Armadillo said:
Krisken said:
It's hardly perjury when you put someone on trial for having sex in the oval office and then use that to create something illegal. Besides, if we can allow Bush to get away with war crimes for 7 years, I think we can let a small fib slide, don't you?
1. Name the war crimes. Be specific.
2. You can't lie under oath. EVER. ABOUT ANYTHING. Clinton lied under oath. That would be the definition of perjury.
3. I don't care that Clinton had an affair. That's between him and [strike:1m278fwp]The Pantsuit Medusa[/strike:1m278fwp] Hillary. What I care about is that he lied under oath about it. See Point #2.
http://www.nogw.com/warcrimes.html

Google gave me this, ignore the cartoony image, a brief look around made it look like a good list.
First impression: as objective as Sean Hannity covering Gayfest '09, but I'll give it a look-see once I get a bit more time.
 
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Twitch

When I was in Rome I saw posters for what was, as far as I could tell, the Gay Communist 08 rally.


Edit: I got a picture

 
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Iaculus

Twitch said:
When I was in Rome I saw posters for what was, as far as I could tell, the Gay Communist 08 rally.


Edit: I got a picture

Were they marching for abortion rights? Please tell me they were marching for abortion rights.
 
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Twitch

Don't know, I just saw the posters everywhere. The rally was either the day before I got there or the day after I left.
 
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Iaculus

A Troll said:
Gun control is almost the same as aborition rights?
In terms of the far-right hysteria it attracts, yes. Which I presume was the point made.
 

GasBandit

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The next pig up the government trough may be ... the adult entertainment business. You got it. The porn industry. The CEO of Girls Gone Wild, Joe Francis, and the publisher of "Hustler" magazine, Larry Flint, say that they want a $5 billion bailout from the government.

Guess what's back? The SCHIP expansion! That's right, get ready to make your "down payment on national health insurance!"

A Republican state senator in Utah is really putting his public service and taxpayer salary to good use. Michael Waddroups, of Taylorsville, wants to make sure that minors in restaurants do not see alcohol until it reaches the table, and children should be forbidden to see liquor bottles or drinks being poured by bartenders.

Get this, Obama says that he wants to "tackle out-of-control Social Security and Medicare spending."

So the Democrats now say that they are willing to seat Burris .. but they sure are dragging their feet about it.

John McCain is teaming up with Russ Feingold in order to battle earmarks. Somehow the prospect of another McCain-Feingold collaboration is not comforting.

The Governor of New York wants to require group health insurers to allow parents to extend coverage of their children until age 30. Thirty? A child? Well, maybe in New York.

Things are so heated over the situation in Gaza that some Denmark schools are refusing to allow Jewish parents to place their children in schools for fear of backlash from Palestinians.
 
GasBandit said:
The next pig up the government trough may be ... the adult entertainment business. You got it. The porn industry. The CEO of Girls Gone Wild, Joe Francis, and the publisher of "Hustler" magazine, Larry Flint, say that they want a $5 billion bailout from the government.
I hope they get a chance to go to Washington for this. I have a feeling it would be hilarious.
 
slothilopolis said:
GasBandit said:
The next pig up the government trough may be ... the adult entertainment business. You got it. The porn industry. The CEO of Girls Gone Wild, Joe Francis, and the publisher of "Hustler" magazine, Larry Flint, say that they want a $5 billion bailout from the government.
I hope they get a chance to go to Washington for this. I have a feeling it would be hilarious.
They should guilt trip the Congress by saying, "If we do not get this bail out, our workers may have to resort to prostitution to make a living."
 

sixpackshaker said:
slothilopolis said:
GasBandit said:
The next pig up the government trough may be ... the adult entertainment business. You got it. The porn industry. The CEO of Girls Gone Wild, Joe Francis, and the publisher of "Hustler" magazine, Larry Flint, say that they want a $5 billion bailout from the government.
I hope they get a chance to go to Washington for this. I have a feeling it would be hilarious.
They should guilt trip the Congress by saying, "If we do not get this bail out, our workers may have to resort to prostitution to make a living."
I'm willing to help a hand. I have in the past, so this shouldn't be that big of a leap.
 
Edrondol said:
sixpackshaker said:
slothilopolis said:
I hope they get a chance to go to Washington for this. I have a feeling it would be hilarious.
They should guilt trip the Congress by saying, "If we do not get this bail out, our workers may have to resort to prostitution to make a living."
I'm willing to help a hand. I have in the past, so this shouldn't be that big of a leap.
Wow. Ed, are you saying you frequent prostitutes?
 
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Twitch

Krisken said:
Edrondol said:
sixpackshaker said:
slothilopolis said:
I hope they get a chance to go to Washington for this. I have a feeling it would be hilarious.
They should guilt trip the Congress by saying, "If we do not get this bail out, our workers may have to resort to prostitution to make a living."
I'm willing to help a hand. I have in the past, so this shouldn't be that big of a leap.
Wow. Ed, are you saying you frequent prostitutes?
Frequented. ed
 

I'm married. I pay for sex every day.




Okay, old joke. Truth is I've never gotten a hooker and never would because I like my genitalia to NOT become diseased and rot off. I was talking about helping the porn industry. Dorks.
 
Edrondol said:
I'm married. I pay for sex every day.




Okay, old joke. Truth is I've never gotten a hooker and never would because I like my genitalia to NOT become diseased and rot off. I was talking about helping the porn industry. Dorks.
Oh, I knew what you meant. Doesn't mean it wasn't funny though. :slywink:
 
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Iaculus

Futureking said:
GasBandit said:
Things are so heated over the situation in Gaza that some Denmark schools are refusing to allow Jewish parents to place their children in schools for fear of backlash from Palestinians.
GAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does this mean the Arabs are scarier than the Jews?
Pretty much, yes. Back in 2005, someone posted a few moderately insulting cartoons attacking Islamic fundamentalism in a national newspaper there. The resultant riots pretty much ripped the country apart.
 
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Armadillo

Iaculus said:
Futureking said:
GasBandit said:
Things are so heated over the situation in Gaza that some Denmark schools are refusing to allow Jewish parents to place their children in schools for fear of backlash from Palestinians.
GAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does this mean the Arabs are scarier than the Jews?
Pretty much, yes. Back in 2005, someone posted a few moderately insulting cartoons attacking Islamic fundamentalism in a national newspaper there. The resultant riots pretty much ripped the country apart.
And the obvious response to such actions is to completely kowtow to the aggressors, just to make sure they aren't pissed at you. Not that it's going to matter much to people who want everyone who isn't them dead...
 

ElJuski

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Iaculus said:
Futureking said:
GasBandit said:
Things are so heated over the situation in Gaza that some Denmark schools are refusing to allow Jewish parents to place their children in schools for fear of backlash from Palestinians.
GAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does this mean the Arabs are scarier than the Jews?
Pretty much, yes. Back in 2005, someone posted a few moderately insulting cartoons attacking Islamic fundamentalism in a national newspaper there. The resultant riots pretty much ripped the country apart.
But it spawned such a fantastic pair of South Park episodes, so its a wash.
 
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Iaculus

Armadillo said:
Iaculus said:
Futureking said:
GasBandit said:
Things are so heated over the situation in Gaza that some Denmark schools are refusing to allow Jewish parents to place their children in schools for fear of backlash from Palestinians.
GAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does this mean the Arabs are scarier than the Jews?
Pretty much, yes. Back in 2005, someone posted a few moderately insulting cartoons attacking Islamic fundamentalism in a national newspaper there. The resultant riots pretty much ripped the country apart.
And the obvious response to such actions is to completely kowtow to the aggressors, just to make sure they aren't pissed at you. Not that it's going to matter much to people who want everyone who isn't them dead...
Not condoning it - just saying that Futureking's opinion of their motives was actually right on the money.
 
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Armadillo

Iaculus said:
Armadillo said:
Iaculus said:
Pretty much, yes. Back in 2005, someone posted a few moderately insulting cartoons attacking Islamic fundamentalism in a national newspaper there. The resultant riots pretty much ripped the country apart.
And the obvious response to such actions is to completely kowtow to the aggressors, just to make sure they aren't pissed at you. Not that it's going to matter much to people who want everyone who isn't them dead...
Not condoning it - just saying that Futureking's opinion of their motives was actually right on the money.
I know you weren't condoning it. I just can't stand that line of thinking.
 

GasBandit

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Nancy Pelosi is urging Obama to raise taxes NOW! IE, kill the bush tax cuts instead of letting them expire in 2010.

Political correctness strikes again... a high school marching band is set to play in the inaugural parade, but the pantywaste PC patrol jumped on them because they were the "Wyandotte Marching Chiefs." Now they'll be changing their name and marching with patches sewn over their uniform insignias. Here's hoping they take Wynadotte Marching "Liberal bumbaclots." Or even better... the "Marching Smallpox Blankets."

Do you know how Obama is trying to sell this stimulus plan to the public? The same way he won the election .. by using focus groups to change the language of what he really means. Well .. when you're the winner of our nation's first YouTube, American Idol, Entertainment Tonight presidential election, this comes naturally.

A recent survey found that reporters really dropped the ball when it came to this financial meltdown.

During the election we heard a lot about ACORN. Well, here is the latest on what is going on with their organization.

You want to talk about government schools? More than 20% of adults in Florida don't have the basic reading skills to read this thread.

PETA wants to rename fish "sea kittens" because they think that will make seafood less appealing. These guys are such a joke.

Once again, we see that global warming isn't about the earth in danger so much as it is about politics and money.

Speaking of global warming, did you know that the Minnesota sled dog race has been canceled? Yep. Too much snow.

For those of you who look to the government to solve all your problems .. it looks like you are in good company.
 
Armadillo said:
1. Name the war crimes. Be specific.
Well, I don't have all the time in the world, so I'll just go through one war crime: waterboarding.

According to the War Crimes Act of 1996 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c104:H.R.3680:), a war crime is defined as a "grave breach of the Geneva Conventions". Now, the Bush Administration tries to argue that Al Qaeda prisoners are not subject to the Geneva Conventions because they are not Prisoners of War. However, Common Article Three of the Geneva conventions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Con ... _Article_3) explicitly applies to enemy combatants who are not POWs. The Supreme Court, in Hamdan v Rumsfeld (http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/05-184.ZO.html) ruled that Article Three DID apply to Al Qaeda prisoners.

Now, obviously, Article Three prohibits torture. Of course, the Administration then tries to say that waterboarding is not torture. However, waterboarding has been defined as torture by US courts NUMEROUS times. For example, one Japanese POW after World War II was sentenced to 15 years hard labor for the war crime of waterboarding. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01170.html). That same article recounts US soldiers being court-martialed for using waterboarding Filipino guerrillas during America's occupation of the Philippines after the Spanish-American War. And in 1922, the Mississippi Supreme Court ruled that waterboarding was torture. A Black man had been convicted of murdering a white man based on his confession after being waterboarded. The bloody MISSISSIPPI Supreme Court in 1922 through out an African-American's murder conviction because he had been waterboarded.

So if torture is a war crime, and if waterboarding is torture, Bush's only recourse would be that he didn't know what was happening. This is incredibly unlikely. I refer you to the Senate Armed Services Committee Inquiry Into the Treatment of Detainees in US Custody (http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/suppor ... 121108.pdf). On February 7, 2002, President Bush signed a memo stating that the Geneva Conventions did not apply in the conflict with Al Qaeda, including Article Three. Also, his Office of Legal Council on August 1, 2002, approved the use of waterboarding among many other interrogation techniques that are still classified. If Bush didn't know we were waterboarding at least some detainees, he's an even bigger idiot than his critics say he is. And no, I don't think Bush is stupid.
 
I'm sorry Dieb, but this board has no place for logic and evidence/citation. Please refer to the Israel thread in the locked section to see how we discuss politics around here. Thanks.
 
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makare

Philosopher B. said:
GasBandit said:
Every time I hear about what PETA is doing, I die a little inside ...
Oh for the love of... here in South Dakota we have a town called Spearfish. Well, the principal of Spearfish High School got a letter from PETA asking him to change the name of the school to Sea kitten HS.....seriously.
They are not even pretending to be a rational group of people anymore.
 
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JCM

Like never. [:p]
Dieb said:
Armadillo said:
1. Name the war crimes. Be specific.
Well, I don't have all the time in the world, so I'll just go through one war crime: waterboarding.

According to the War Crimes Act of 1996 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c104:H.R.3680:), a war crime is defined as a "grave breach of the Geneva Conventions". Now, the Bush Administration tries to argue that Al Qaeda prisoners are not subject to the Geneva Conventions because they are not Prisoners of War. However, Common Article Three of the Geneva conventions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Con ... _Article_3) explicitly applies to enemy combatants who are not POWs. The Supreme Court, in Hamdan v Rumsfeld (http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/05-184.ZO.html) ruled that Article Three DID apply to Al Qaeda prisoners.

Now, obviously, Article Three prohibits torture. Of course, the Administration then tries to say that waterboarding is not torture. However, waterboarding has been defined as torture by US courts NUMEROUS times. For example, one Japanese POW after World War II was sentenced to 15 years hard labor for the war crime of waterboarding. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01170.html). That same article recounts US soldiers being court-martialed for using waterboarding Filipino guerrillas during America's occupation of the Philippines after the Spanish-American War. And in 1922, the Mississippi Supreme Court ruled that waterboarding was torture. A Black man had been convicted of murdering a white man based on his confession after being waterboarded. The bloody MISSISSIPPI Supreme Court in 1922 through out an African-American's murder conviction because he had been waterboarded.

So if torture is a war crime, and if waterboarding is torture, Bush's only recourse would be that he didn't know what was happening. This is incredibly unlikely. I refer you to the Senate Armed Services Committee Inquiry Into the Treatment of Detainees in US Custody (http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/suppor ... 121108.pdf). On February 7, 2002, President Bush signed a memo stating that the Geneva Conventions did not apply in the conflict with Al Qaeda, including Article Three. Also, his Office of Legal Council on August 1, 2002, approved the use of waterboarding among many other interrogation techniques that are still classified. If Bush didn't know we were waterboarding at least some detainees, he's an even bigger idiot than his critics say he is. And no, I don't think Bush is stupid.
Agreed, but then, as put forth by troll-
A Troll said:
I'm sorry Dieb, but this board has no place for logic and evidence/citation. Please refer to the Israel thread in the locked section to see how we discuss politics around here. Thanks.
Dont worry though, most think the same as you, but just got tired of explaining the same thing the past 8 years to the right wingers.
 
A Troll said:
Espy said:
Iaculus said:
:teeth:

He got espy.

Congrats, sir - I think you just levelled up.

Edit: unless that was some really subtle humour on your part, O smoking baby.
You know, for a troll he has no history of trolling so until it's proved otherwise I just take him at face value. I thought I was being aggressive but apparently not enough. :twisted:
If he was truly trolling then I tip my hat to him and give him one internet cookie.
It's true, I'm usually not trying to troll, but with Espy I just couldn't resist. :teeth:

Anyone who goes back in this thread on the 23rd will find an exchange where Espy got me hook, line, and sinker. I've been trying for a bit to pay him back, but he's wily. I think I may have just succeeded.
He got espy? I've can't let my guard down now.

You should like, post this in the epic win thread.

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