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Krisken said:
Espy said:
GasBandit said:
Krisken said:
Oh, I don't doubt that things are getting a little rank there. I should have probably added Left Wing hippies or something to show I'm not trying to be biased here. I'm just saying that when someone has been unapologetically wrong for 8 years, the media shouldn't enable them.
Well, that kinda rules out CBS, MSNBC, et al already...
Gas, we've been over this, only Fox is biased. Ask anyone here. ;)
I know my memory can be a little cloudy, but I know for a fact that isn't the case. People here have said on numerous occasions that credible news sources are few and far between. I think the only one I could follow posted up above was the Reuters.

You guys have really got to stop playing this victim card. It's getting old, and didn't do the Democrats any good the last 8 years.
I'm just yanking your chain my dear old BFF. No worries ;)
Also see JCM's post for my citation. :pthhp:
 
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TheBrew

GasBandit said:
Krisken said:
GasBandit and TheBrew said:
A bunch of conjecture and uh huh and nuh uh's
Boy, this is fun and all, but not exactly supported or relevant.
Methinks you misjudge the purpose of the thread :heythere:
Well yeah, aren't the best arguments the one where nobody can win?
 
TheBrew said:
GasBandit said:
Krisken said:
GasBandit and TheBrew said:
A bunch of conjecture and uh huh and nuh uh's
Boy, this is fun and all, but not exactly supported or relevant.
Methinks you misjudge the purpose of the thread :heythere:
Well yeah, aren't the best arguments the one where nobody can win?
Well, they last the longest thats for sure. And aren't we here for eternal damnat... I mean, entertainment?
 

GasBandit

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The clown cars have rolled into Washington. The Big Three CEOs drove their vehicles all the way from Detroit. All except one. GM CEO Rick Wagoner did drive a 2009 Chevy Malibu Hybrid most of the way to Washington. But then, once he got close to the Capitol he hopped out of his Malibu and drove the last 25 miles or so in a 2011 Chevy Volt. How did the Chevy Volt get to the pick-up point in Washington? Well, someone had to ship it there.

Meanwhile in Great Britain, the sale of electric cars has fallen by more than half. While the Government's climate change advisory body predicted that electric cars would sell like hot cakes .. they were proven very wrong by that silly little thing called the free market. Only 156 electric cars were sold in Great Britain so far this year.

The Australian government is considering something called the Fair Work Bill. What this bill will do is give labor unions power that they have not seen in 20+ years.. maybe even more. As you can probably imagine, there is nothing "fair" about the bill. Just like this bill in the United States - the Free Employee Choice Act - has nothing to do with free choice. The Wall Street Journal gives a basic explanation:
The Fair Work Bill is, by any measure, a massive boost for unions. It would make it possible for them to enter private workplaces and examine both union and non-union pay records -- trampling on individuals' right to privacy. When disputes occur, the bill gives wide powers to a third-party tribunal to arbitrate. It would effectively allow for a form of "pattern bargaining," giving unions that strike a deal with one business more leverage to wield it over other firms in the same industry.

The bill is especially damaging for small and medium-sized businesses -- the economic backbone of middle Australia. "Fair Work" would reimpose mandatory unfair dismissal laws on businesses employing fewer than 100 workers. It would strike down Mr. Howard's Australian Workplace Agreements, which allowed businesses to strike flexible contracts with individual workers. "Low-paid workers" -- a phrase that isn't clearly defined under the bill, meaning it could apply to a wide range of employees -- would be given increased bargaining powers.
There has been amazing progress in Iraq. You'll find a tough time finding coverage in the media ... but we managed to discover this Krauthammer column.

It's sad when it takes a Canadian to point out the harsh realities of our American society and our distorted view of the role of government. Here's a peek: "Socialism, advocated by both Obama and Layton, has sucked the soul out of humanity wherever it was ever attempted, but that's the road North America is now careening down."

Obama may bypass the Congress to implement a national cap-and-trade system by creating regulations through the EPA. Coal industry, are you listening?? Remember, Obama said he was going to bankrupt you.

Now we have this column in The Wall Street Journal saying we should end drug prohibition in the US. There's something to that.

The WSJ also says that we should free Plaxico Burress because New York's gun laws are unconstitutional.

When a bridge in your town collapses and the government still hasn't fixed it after four years, I have bad news for you .. it's still not getting fixed any time soon. It's government!

Russia has declared Santa to be an 'illegal immigrant' whose unhealthy Western influence was not welcome in Russia.
 

North_Ranger

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Soooo... One Russian politician goes overboard in an American Santa vs. Russian Santa rivalry - and that is news? From Daily Mail? Gas, Gas, Gas, you're starting to slip.
 

GasBandit

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North_Ranger said:
Soooo... One Russian politician goes overboard in an American Santa vs. Russian Santa rivalry - and that is news? From Daily Mail? Gas, Gas, Gas, you're starting to slip.
Where does it say "Gas Bandit's NEWS thread?"

I also have to chuckle that you chose to nitpick the closing "color" piece instead of the other nine items.
 

North_Ranger

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GasBandit said:
North_Ranger said:
Soooo... One Russian politician goes overboard in an American Santa vs. Russian Santa rivalry - and that is news? From Daily Mail? Gas, Gas, Gas, you're starting to slip.
Where does it say "Gas Bandit's NEWS thread?"

I also have to chuckle that you chose to nitpick the closing "color" piece instead of the other nine items.
*shrugs*

I'm not American, so some of the items you provided are completely alien to me. Therefore I refrain from arguing about them.
 
Also, we all realise Santa Clause was invented by Coke, based on our Sinterklaas, right? :-P

Oh, and giving union more power is a good move. Too much power can be bad (see: the Belgian job market *sigh*) but some is definitely needed.
 

GasBandit

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Bubble181 said:
Also, we all realise Santa Clause was invented by Coke, based on our Sinterklaas, right? :-P

Oh, and giving union more power is a good move. Too much power can be bad (see: the Belgian job market *sigh*) but some is definitely needed.

It's already way past too much union power... see the "big 3" american auto companies and the US Public Education system.
 
GasBandit said:
Bubble181 said:
Also, we all realise Santa Clause was invented by Coke, based on our Sinterklaas, right? :-P

Oh, and giving union more power is a good move. Too much power can be bad (see: the Belgian job market *sigh*) but some is definitely needed.

It's already way past too much union power... see the "big 3" american auto companies and the US Public Education system.
Yeah, the auto company problem has nothing to do with the millions spent on concept cars and the inability to judge the future market being unable to handle huge gas guzzling vehicles, or the education system being unable to handle a system that punishes teachers and administrators for trying to teach information instead of teaching to tests.

I'll concede that the unions need rules to prevent corruption, but unions are part of the problem, not THE PROBLEM.
 
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you mean Santa leaves Coke in my stockings because he's a corporate shill? :(
 

GasBandit

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Sick yesterday. Now things start again.

David Horowitz says that the Obama birth certificate people are suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome and need to "shut up."

Obama still says that he is willing to talk to Iran directly and offer economic incentives to stop its nuclear program. Cause, you know, we've got the cash to throw around and it worked so very well with Korea.

Here's an idea. Let the Ford Foundation save Ford. How much money does the Ford Foundation have? Try $13 billion.

Here is some of the convenient truth about these unemployment figures we are hearing lately.

Al Franken is STILL FINDING BALLOTS. Are you sure you checked all your pockets, Al?

Yesterday five of the 9/11 suspects held at Gitmo said they would immediately confess at their war crimes tribunal.

The inflation rate is 230,000,000% in Zimbabwe.
 

GasBandit

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I missed it because I'm still recovering and am a little off my game today. I'm guessing edrondol unstickied it because anybody who was looking for it before has probably found it by now and bookmarked it.
 
GasBandit said:
I missed it because I'm still recovering and am a little off my game today. I'm guessing edrondol unstickied it because anybody who was looking for it before has probably found it by now and bookmarked it.
Shit man, we ain't got time for you to be sick.
News don't stop for no man!

But really, sounds like the auto bailout has hit a hitch... fillibuster is being rumored now...
 

GasBandit

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Americans were overwhelmingly against a bailout for the Big Three. Now a recent CBS News poll shows that 44% of Americans agree with a bailout and 44% are against a bailout.

The man whose wife and children were killed by the F-18 crash is a class act of incredibly humbling proportions. I wonder if a native-born American would have kept perspective so graciously.

Just how cold is it in Siberia this week? Try 81 degrees ... below zero. Where is that cold air going to go? Southern California, for starters. Durned global warming. It really is getting out of hand, isn't it?

Lee Iacocca says that now is not the time for Congress to be suggesting that the executives of the auto industry be ousted. I choke on my lack of shock.

More than half of the bailed-out mortgages are already in default again. What did you expect? If they couldn't afford it before, why could they afford it now? That was hundreds of billions well spent, now wasn't it? Aren't you glad your government "had to do something, because it was better than doing nothing?"

New Hampshire has decided that one of the first things to go when facing a budget crunch ... no jury trials for one month.

A court in India has called for the ban of Google Earth because they believe the Mumbai terrorists used the satellite imaging to help plan the attacks.

Congratulations to the taxpayers of Portland, Oregon .. your government has spent $140,000 of your tax dollars to create a solar-powered toilet.
 
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makare

GasBandit said:
Just how cold is it in Siberia this week? Try 81 degrees ... below zero. Where is that cold air going to go? Southern California, for starters. Durned global warming. It really is getting out of hand, isn't it?
Are you joking here or do you just really have no understanding of global warming?
 

GasBandit said:
Americans were overwhelmingly against a bailout for the Big Three. Now a recent CBS News poll shows that 44% of Americans agree with a bailout and 44% are against a bailout.
The longer this goes on the more I think they should be allowed to go belly up.

The man whose wife and children were killed by the F-18 crash is a class act of incredibly humbling proportions. I wonder if a native-born American would have kept perspective so graciously.
I feel for this guy. And as classy as he is you know he's getting contacted incessantly by lawyers.

Just how cold is it in Siberia this week? Try 81 degrees ... below zero. Where is that cold air going to go? Southern California, for starters. Durned global warming. It really is getting out of hand, isn't it?
Al Gore! Where are you now? :lol:

Lee Iacocca says that now is not the time for Congress to be suggesting that the executives of the auto industry be ousted. I choke on my lack of shock.
We need a facepalm smiley. I must find one. For now, though... :pud:

More than half of the bailed-out mortgages are already in default again. What did you expect? If they couldn't afford it before, why could they afford it now? That was hundreds of billions well spent, now wasn't it? Aren't you glad your government "had to do something, because it was better than doing nothing?"
I was listening to a program on NPR where they interviewed a few people. One guy's mortgage went from $1832.81 to $1832.49 after having his mortgage restructured by a bank that was bailed out. The numbers are approximate, but the amount was $1800 and something and it went down less than $.50 a month. And the banks given the bailout money have not used it for what they were supposed to. Just look at that sit-in in Illinois. The bank was bailed out & then denied the company the money they needed to continue - which is the exact reason the banks got the bailout in the first place. The issue is not just a congress who did stuff to look good, but also that there's no oversight or accountability.

New Hampshire has decided that one of the first things to go when facing a budget crunch ... no jury trials for one month.
Considering the court system is already pretty far behind, will this matter? Of course, if I'm a victim and a perpetrator is out and not going to trial I might be a little scared or pissed.

A court in India has called for the ban of Google Earth because they believe the Mumbai terrorists used the satellite imaging to help plan the attacks.
Rand/McNally is next!

Congratulations to the taxpayers of Portland, Oregon .. your government has spent $140,000 of your tax dollars to create a solar-powered toilet.
Solar powered. Toilet. The 1800s are laughing at us. They dug a hole in the ground for free.
 

North_Ranger

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GasBandit said:
The man whose wife and children were killed by the F-18 crash is a class act of incredibly humbling proportions. I wonder if a native-born American would have kept perspective so graciously.
The link gives me the headline, but no article. Direct quotation here, please?

Just how cold is it in Siberia this week? Try 81 degrees ... below zero. Where is that cold air going to go? Southern California, for starters. Durned global warming. It really is getting out of hand, isn't it?
This is laughable to you because...?

Congratulations to the taxpayers of Portland, Oregon .. your government has spent $140,000 of your tax dollars to create a solar-powered toilet.
Ye Olde Finnish Krap Hole (still used by the Finnish Defence Forces during bivouac):

1. Dig a hole between two trees.
2. Find a long, sturdy piece of wood.
3. Tie the wood between the two trees at seat level.
4. Sit down on the wood.
5. Enjoy the scenery.
 

From the article:

A Korean immigrant who lost his wife, two children and mother-in-law when a Marine Corps jet slammed into the family's house said Tuesday he did not blame the pilot, who ejected and survived.

"Please pray for him not to suffer from this accident," a distraught Dong Yun Yoon told reporters gathered near the site of Monday's crash of an F/A-18D jet in San Diego's University City community.

"He is one of our treasures for the country," Yoon said in accented English punctuated by long pauses while he tried to maintain his composure.

"I don't blame him. I don't have any hard feelings. I know he did everything he could," said Yoon, flanked by members of San Diego's Korean community, relatives and members from the family's church. Video Watch Yoon discuss relatives' death »

Authorities said four people died when the jet crashed into the Yoon family's house while the pilot was trying to reach nearby Marine Corps Air Station Miramar. Another unoccupied house also was destroyed.

Yoon named the victims as his infant daughter Rachel, who was born less than two months ago; his 15-month-old daughter Grace; his wife, Young Mi Yoon, 36; and her 60-year-old mother, Suk Im Kim, who he said had come to the United States from Korea recently to help take care of the children.

Fighting back tears, he said of his daughters: "I cannot believe that they are not here right now."

"I know there are many people who have experienced more terrible things," Yoon said. "But, please, tell me how to do it. I don't know what to do."
 
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makare

GasBandit said:
makare1 said:
GasBandit said:
Just how cold is it in Siberia this week? Try 81 degrees ... below zero. Where is that cold air going to go? Southern California, for starters. Durned global warming. It really is getting out of hand, isn't it?
Are you joking here or do you just really have no understanding of global warming?
How dare I malign the liberal religion?




Regardless of whether there is actual global warming or not, the people who actually UNDERSTAND the theory, know it wouldn't affect the weather in siberia... jackass.
 

GasBandit

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makare1 said:
Regardless of whether there is actual global warming or not, the people who actually UNDERSTAND the theory, know it wouldn't affect the weather in siberia... jackass.
You guys pick from your sacred texts even more selectively than evangelicals, you know that? A year ago the weather in siberia was a telltale harbinger of doom, and da poor polar bears was gonna alllll drown! This year? Oops. Never mind. That has nothing to do with global warming. Pay NO attention to the man behind the curtain!
 
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makare

GasBandit said:
makare1 said:
Regardless of whether there is actual global warming or not, the people who actually UNDERSTAND the theory, know it wouldn't affect the weather in siberia... jackass.
You guys pick from your sacred texts even more selectively than evangelicals, you know that? A year ago the weather in siberia was a telltale harbinger of doom, and da poor polar bears was gonna alllll drown! This year? Oops. Never mind. That has nothing to do with global warming. Pay NO attention to the man behind the curtain!
You get your news from people who are just as extreme as you are, on both sides. Just because a news program says something is true doesn't mean it is. It doesn't even mean it has anything to do with the scientific theory it is supposedly referencing. Try stepping away from the computer and reading more of the actual scientific literature.
 

GasBandit

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North_Ranger said:
Polar bears don't live in Siberia, Gas ol' boy...
It was a combined pastiche in demeaning fashion of a large number of panicmongering articles from the time, NR.

makare1 said:
You get your news from people who are just as extreme as you are, on both sides. Just because a news program says something is true doesn't mean it is. It doesn't even mean it has anything to do with the scientific theory it is supposedly referencing. Try stepping away from the computer and reading more of the actual scientific literature.
At this point, that's tantamount to saying "you need to spend more time reading the bible."
 
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makare

GasBandit said:
North_Ranger said:
Polar bears don't live in Siberia, Gas ol' boy...
It was a combined pastiche in demeaning fashion of a large number of panicmongering articles from the time, NR.

makare1 said:
You get your news from people who are just as extreme as you are, on both sides. Just because a news program says something is true doesn't mean it is. It doesn't even mean it has anything to do with the scientific theory it is supposedly referencing. Try stepping away from the computer and reading more of the actual scientific literature.
At this point, that's tantamount to saying "you need to spend more time reading the bible."
this anime violin playing girl has come to accompany you in your nonsensical whining.
. Mmmhmm, makes it much easier to tolerate.
 
GasBandit said:
North_Ranger said:
Polar bears don't live in Siberia, Gas ol' boy...
It was a combined pastiche in demeaning fashion of a large number of panicmongering articles from the time, NR.

makare1 said:
You get your news from people who are just as extreme as you are, on both sides. Just because a news program says something is true doesn't mean it is. It doesn't even mean it has anything to do with the scientific theory it is supposedly referencing. Try stepping away from the computer and reading more of the actual scientific literature.
At this point, that's tantamount to saying "you need to spend more time reading the bible."
So now the Bible is on equal footing with scientific literature? I knew you were Invader all along.
 

GasBandit

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makare1 said:
GasBandit said:
North_Ranger said:
Polar bears don't live in Siberia, Gas ol' boy...
It was a combined pastiche in demeaning fashion of a large number of panicmongering articles from the time, NR.

makare1 said:
You get your news from people who are just as extreme as you are, on both sides. Just because a news program says something is true doesn't mean it is. It doesn't even mean it has anything to do with the scientific theory it is supposedly referencing. Try stepping away from the computer and reading more of the actual scientific literature.
At this point, that's tantamount to saying "you need to spend more time reading the bible."
this anime violin playing girl has come to accompany you in your nonsensical whining. Mmmhmm, makes it much easier to tolerate.
When you're done doing the logical equivalent of flailing desperately, you might could stop and point out the part where I was "whining" about something.

Jake said:
So now the Bible is on equal footing with scientific literature? I knew you were Invader all along.
Most of the so-called "scientific literature" re: global warming is actually more on footing equal with that of Mad Magazine. But it's treated with the reverence of religious text.
 
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makare

GasBandit said:
When you're done doing the logical equivalent of flailing desperately, you might could stop and point out the part where I was "whining" about something.


I can totally point it out.. wait let's see, ah yes here it is.. THIS ENTIRE THREAD! All it is whining. Liberals wahhh, the country is doomed boo hoo, etc wahhh.

And I really laugh at you mentioning logic after comparing my telling you to become more educated, educated on a topic you had just referenced, to religion. That is seriously laughable. Ludicrous even.

I am, unfortunately, very well educated on the theory of global warming because for some dumbass reason my school has hijacked a bunch of classes to teach about the topic. What global warming has to do with criminal justice I have no clue, but the side effect here is that I am very well versed on both sides of the issue. I don't know what I believe about it (woah and I am liberal... they are going to excommunicate me now!) but I do know what the theory posits and how it would affect the world. This is from actual study, not watching the news or reading biased blogs. I would recommend that you educate yourself before going of spouting your biased nonsense.
 
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