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GasBandit

GasBandit

Warning - this story contains graphic footage not suitable for the vast majority of people who are not dead inside. I am not being funny in that last sentence. You were warned.






This Is All Kinds Of Wrong of the Day: Security camera footage of a little girl being run over twice near a hardware market in Foshan, China, made the rounds this past weekend on Chinese social networks. Not for the horrific injuries sustained by the child, but for the horrific callousness of over a dozen passers-by who ignored the toddler and left her for dead.

Identified as Yueyue, the two-year-old was initially declared brain dead, but according to her mother, the situation has improved over the past 24 hours, and she is now stable, and has even regained some sensation in her extremities. Yueyue remains in intensive care at the General Hospital of Guangzhou Military Command.
The indifference of 18 individuals who walked by Yueyue without calling for help has generated immense outcry both in China and around the world.

“What’s up with people these days? They make so many excuses to turn a blind eye,” Yueyue’s father told theTelegraph. “The society is so indifferent, so heartless.”

The driver of the first vehicle to run over the child has been caught, according to local reports. He claims he was on the phone with his girlfriend, with whom he had just broken up, and didn’t notice Yueyue.

The Guardian says many blamed the lack of Good Samaritan laws — which protect pedestrians who assist in emergencies — for the lack of empathy.

Warning: If the above description didn’t make it clear enough, the video after the jump is extremely graphic in nature and very upsetting



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#2



Chibibar

The Issue: a GIRL in China. Sadly many family rather have male child. Now (according to my parents) some DO kill their girl so to hope to a get a boy (I believe the 1 child per family has been lifted but I am not sure)

Now I don't agree with any of it, but the world shouldn't be surprise by this. If this were to happen any other westernize country, that is a different story, but that doesn't make any less feeling.

Edit: Personally I find it disgusting. A life is a life regardless of gender. I am sad for the little girl and glad she is recovering (even it states the hospital is kinda meh in all of it)

Edit x2: When I was in China, pedestrian doesn't have right of way (even in tourist area like Forbidden city) cars WILL run over you. My uncle was in critical condition cause he never visit China and start walking when the light is Green (which you can normally walk) but many cars in China don't really stop on red or continue going when they can and he got hurt bad :(


#3

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

I... just... I mean.... I am seriously beyond words right now... I've got to get home and give my girl a hug...

Where was mom when this girl was wandering around?


#4

PatrThom

PatrThom

It's a sobering thing, to be sure. Not sure who bears the blame, nor how to even begin to suggest how it could have been prevented. Maybe China can enact some ridiculous laws to overcompensate? That's how the West has traditionally soothed its collective conscience.

--Patrick


#5

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

It's fucking China. What do you expect.


#6

GasBandit

GasBandit

doomdragon6 said:
It's fucking China. What do you expect.
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I'm not entirely convinced this couldn't happen here.


#7



Chibibar

GasBandit said:
I'm not entirely convinced this couldn't happen here.
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It shouldn't. BUT sadly it is the very lack of "human caring" in China that allow them to be one of the cheapest manufacturing in the world. There is no safety. No human rights. Unless people of the world "force" China to change (if that ever happen) China will continue to do business as usual.


#8

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Can't watch the video from work. Am I to understand that people were walking by a toddler that had been hit by a car, then hit by another car as they continued walking past? Guess I'm soul-less (big shock huh?) cause I wouldn't have taken a second glance.

Also: Faith in humanity? :rofl:


#9

GasBandit

GasBandit

Shegokigo said:
Can't watch the video from work. Am I to understand that people were walking by a toddler that had been hit by a car, then hit by another car as they continued walking past? Guess I'm soul-less (big shock huh?) cause I wouldn't have taken a second glance.

Also: Faith in humanity? :rofl:
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Yes, that's exactly what happened, and no, I didn't expect you to have faith in humanity. Mine's been pretty much gone for a while too, but I still get irritated when the dog gets himself sprayed by the skunk, even though I know the dog is going to get sprayed by the skunk every time there is an opportunity for dog-skunk interaction. Protection of the young is an evolutionarily-instilled imperative for just about every species, and supposedly one reinforced by so called "human society." People may say, how can we have come so far? I say, just wait till you see what's next. In 10-20 years, rather than ignore, somebody will stop to eat that child.

And don't give me, "it's china, and it was a girl." There's no way to tell a toddler's gender by casual glance. Even the standard fiction of colored clothes has once again completely decayed.

Anyway, the warning at the top was not for the hardened or the empty... it was for the rest of em.


#10

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Shegokigo said:
Can't watch the video from work. Am I to understand that people were walking by a toddler that had been hit by a car, then hit by another car as they continued walking past? Guess I'm soul-less (big shock huh?) cause I wouldn't have taken a second glance.
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Here is the horrible breakdown.

Toddler is walking without looking, guy in car hits her and rolls over her with front right tire. He stops when he realized he hit something, girl now laying on the ground under the car. After awhile the guy starts up again and rolls over her with his back right tire.

A lot of people are then seen walking within inches of her motionless body, or driving past on scooters. At one point a truck drives up, barely misses her with his front right tire, but then rolls over her legs with his back right tire. Finally, after what seems like forever, a woman walks in from the side, picks up the girl, and moves her out of the road.


#11



Chibibar

GasBandit said:
Yes, that's exactly what happened, and no, I didn't expect you to have faith in humanity. Mine's been pretty much gone for a while too, but I still get irritated when the dog gets himself sprayed by the skunk, even though I know the dog is going to get sprayed by the skunk every time there is an opportunity for dog-skunk interaction. Protection of the young is an evolutionarily-instilled imperative for just about every species, and supposedly one reinforced by so called "human society." People may say, how can we have come so far? I say, just wait till you see what's next. In 10-20 years, rather than ignore, somebody will stop to eat that child.

And don't give me, "it's china, and it was a girl." There's no way to tell a toddler's gender by casual glance. Even the standard fiction of colored clothes has once again completely decayed.

Anyway, the warning at the top was not for the hardened or the empty... it was for the rest of em.
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Well, I say people will react differently in different country. We suppose to have a "better society" so the question would be if this even happen in the U.S. would people react the same way?


#12

Necronic

Necronic

doomdragon6 said:
It's fucking China. What do you expect.
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Acting like this is a chinese thing (which is what a LOT of people are doing) is ridiculous.

Kitty Genovese (New York) - Attacked twice within hearing of neighbors, a couple people reported it but most people did nothing. Second attack killed her.

Axel Casien (California)- Father stomped his son to death in front of a crowd that included a fire chief.

Hugo Alfredo Tale-Yax (Queens)- Homeless guy tries to stop a mugging and is stabbed. Bleeds to death while people take pictures with their cell phones.

Marcy Renee Conrad (California) - 14 year old girl is murdered by acquaintance. He tells all his friends (over a dozen people) even showing the body to some of them. No one reports it to the police for days.

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Anyways, its messed up. But its not because they're Chinese.


#13

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Sounds like Kitty Genovese to me. Ugh, it never ceases to amaze me how as individuals people can be good and kind and caring, but in larger groupings we're complete assholes. Kinda like in the Finnish saying, Joukossa tyhmyys tiiviistyy ('In a group, stupidity concentrates').


#14

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

North_Ranger said:
Sounds like Kitty Genovese to me. Ugh, it never ceases to amaze me how as individuals people can be good and kind and caring, but in larger groupings we're complete assholes. Kinda like in the Finnish saying, Joukossa tyhmyys tiiviistyy ('In a group, stupidity concentrates').
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They actually have done experiments on this. I remember hearing about a study where some researchers gathered groups of people and put them in a "communication" test, where they are put in talks over a radio with either one person or multiple people. One of the people in the tests is a researcher that after a certain amount of time would fake a heart attack, saying it over the radio for someone to get help.

They found that when the researcher was talking one-on-one with the person, the majority outcome would be the test subject getting help. The more people they added to the mix, however, the more the group did nothing but sit silently. They found that when people are part of large groups, they are less likely to take responsibility for something, because they feel someone else will take care of it.


#15



Chibibar

ScytheRexx said:
They actually have done experiments on this. I remember hearing about a study where some researchers gathered groups of people and put them in a "communication" test, where they are put in talks over a radio with either one person or multiple people. One of the people in the tests is a researcher that after a certain amount of time would fake a heart attack, saying it over the radio for someone to get help.

They found that when the researcher was talking one-on-one with the person, the majority outcome would be the test subject getting help. The more people they added to the mix, however, the more the group did nothing but sit silently. They found that when people are part of large groups, they are less likely to take responsibility for something, because they feel someone else will take care of it.
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So basically people are generally lazy unless no one is gonna do it?


#16

GasBandit

GasBandit

ScytheRexx said:
They actually have done experiments on this. I remember hearing about a study where some researchers gathered groups of people and put them in a "communication" test, where they are put in talks over a radio with either one person or multiple people. One of the people in the tests is a researcher that after a certain amount of time would fake a heart attack, saying it over the radio for someone to get help.

They found that when the researcher was talking one-on-one with the person, the majority outcome would be the test subject getting help. The more people they added to the mix, however, the more the group did nothing but sit silently. They found that when people are part of large groups, they are less likely to take responsibility for something, because they feel someone else will take care of it.
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The Bystander Effect, I think it's called... thing is - these people were stepping over/around the dying toddler by themselves... It was just individual after individual deciding a maimed child was not their problem.


#17

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

Chibibar said:
So basically people are generally lazy unless no one is gonna do it?
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That's generally my experience... it's why people call the cops for loud parties, instead of speaking to the offender themselves.


#18

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Chibibar said:
So basically people are generally lazy unless no one is gonna do it?
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Pretty much.

To be honest, I like to think I would be different, but I have never been in the situation yet to know. If I heard someone scream outside, would I run outside to help? Or would I think someone else closer to the situation would handle it? There have been times I heard something that sounded like a gunshot, only to think I heard wrong and it was just an exhaust backfire or something, before going back into my book or game. Could I be letting someone die?

Weird to think about.

The Bystander Effect, I think it's called... thing is - these people were stepping over/around the dying toddler by themselves... It was just individual after individual deciding a maimed child was not their problem.
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I still think it applies. This is a street, one that seems to have people walking it a bit. The two things I think running through the minds of people is either...

1)"Oh look a child throwing some type of tantrum, whatever."
2)"Is... is that baby hurt? Don't look at her the people behind me will help her surely."

One is ignorance and the other is thinking someone else will handle it, thus the Bystander Effect.


#19

Dave

Dave

Officer_Charon said:
That's generally my experience... it's why people call the cops for loud parties, instead of speaking to the offender themselves.
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That and the fact that the media has instill such a fear of strangers that people think directly talking to people will cause them to get capped.


#20

Necronic

Necronic

GasBandit said:
The Bystander Effect, I think it's called... thing is - these people were stepping over/around the dying toddler by themselves... It was just individual after individual deciding a maimed child was not their problem.
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That's the same thing as the bystander effect.


#21

Dave

Dave

ScytheRexx said:
Pretty much.

To be honest, I like to think I would be different, but I have never been in the situation yet to know. If I heard someone scream outside, would I run outside to help? Or would I think someone else closer to the situation would handle it? There have been times I heard something that sounded like a gunshot, only to think I heard wrong and it was just an exhaust backfire or something, before going back into my book or game. Could I be letting someone die?

Weird to think about.
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When I lived in the projects I *KNOW* I heard gunshots. But as I was an unarmed white man I decided to stay inside. Someone was murdered about a block away but I still did nothing more than call the cops.


#22



Chibibar

Sad thing is that I use to stop and help people on the roadside, but lately I hear story of people getting mugged, shot and/or killed since it is a trap. Now I don't stop for anyone :(


#23

@Li3n

@Li3n

Ha, jokes on you, i don't have any faith in humanity left...


#24

Necronic

Necronic

Dave said:
When I lived in the projects I *KNOW* I heard gunshots. But as I was an unarmed white man I decided to stay inside. Someone was murdered about a block away but I still did nothing more than call the cops.
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Calling the cops is sufficient action.


#25

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Officer_Charon said:
That's generally my experience... it's why people call the cops for loud parties, instead of speaking to the offender themselves.
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The partiers listen better to cops.


#26

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

Quotemander Prime said:
The partiers listen better to cops.
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*snrk* Believe that if you'd like... they just tend to be less likely to act the ass with us, is all...


#27

bhamv3

bhamv3

Couple of things to point out:

1. There was a case in China where a man helped an injured woman to a hospital, and then a court found that he was responsible for some of her medical costs.
2. In another case, a woman was hit by a car and then when a man stopped to help her, she accused him of being the one who hit her.
3. The woman in the video who helped the kid was later accused of wanting fame or trying to get on the news.

All this stuff combined could easily discourage bystanders from helping the kid. If doing something good means you'll incur a financial cost, be wrongly accused of attacking the child, and/or become a public pariah, then I for one would think twice about doing anything good.

And while I recognize I'm biased due to being Taiwanese, it really doesn't surprise me at all to hear about stuff like this coming from China.


#28

Dave

Dave

She has died.


#29

PatrThom

PatrThom

I've heard of other experiments where a person is left alone to complete a written test. During the test, a researcher plays a recording of some actors faking a domestic dispute which escalates to violence. The test is designed to see how many people would get up from their test to investigate the ruckus.

--Patrick
EDIT: I heard the buzz that she has died, but have been unable to 100% confirm it yet. Not that I would find it surprising.


#30

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Hit by two trucks, body crushed, major brain damage? Better off gone if one were to be sympathetic.


#31

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Disgusting.


#32

Mathias

Mathias

Chibibar said:
The Issue: a GIRL in China. Sadly many family rather have male child. Now (according to my parents) some DO kill their girl so to hope to a get a boy (I believe the 1 child per family has been lifted but I am not sure)

Now I don't agree with any of it, but the world shouldn't be surprise by this. If this were to happen any other westernize country, that is a different story, but that doesn't make any less feeling.

Edit: Personally I find it disgusting. A life is a life regardless of gender. I am sad for the little girl and glad she is recovering (even it states the hospital is kinda meh in all of it)

Edit x2: When I was in China, pedestrian doesn't have right of way (even in tourist area like Forbidden city) cars WILL run over you. My uncle was in critical condition cause he never visit China and start walking when the light is Green (which you can normally walk) but many cars in China don't really stop on red or continue going when they can and he got hurt bad :(
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The isssue: Chinese society.
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bhamv3 said:
Couple of things to point out:

1. There was a case in China where a man helped an injured woman to a hospital, and then a court found that he was responsible for some of her medical costs.
2. In another case, a woman was hit by a car and then when a man stopped to help her, she accused him of being the one who hit her.
3. The woman in the video who helped the kid was later accused of wanting fame or trying to get on the news.

All this stuff combined could easily discourage bystanders from helping the kid. If doing something good means you'll incur a financial cost, be wrongly accused of attacking the child, and/or become a public pariah, then I for one would think twice about doing anything good.

And while I recognize I'm biased due to being Taiwanese, it really doesn't surprise me at all to hear about stuff like this coming from China.
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No, you're right. Chinese citizens are some of the biggest brainwashed, drones on the face of the Earth. This story is really not all that surprising to me.


#33

Jay

Jay

Not very surprised this came from China. If there's one place I'd avoid like the plague would be a place like China. It's odd that such a beautiful history and culture has turned to mindless uncaring barbaric shit over the last century.

Also, I love Romance of the 3 Kingdoms! Go Cao Cao!


#34

GasBandit

GasBandit

Jay said:
Not very surprised this came from China. If there's one place I'd avoid like the plague would be a place like China. It's odd that such a beautiful history and culture has turned to mindless uncaring barbaric shit over the last century.
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As I said, I don't buy the "oh it's just China" bit. I mean, heck, Krisken's said the above quote about Texas, I think. Or maybe it was makare, I can't remember.


#35



Chibibar

I just came across this and it relate http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15193530

Basically it is about how the society (at least in this case government) pull funding for possible child care and assistant so more children are dying from abuse. 20k children in 10 years in U.S. alone :(


#36

drifter

drifter

She's still alive.


#37



Chibibar

I pray the girl can go back to normal (if possible) Women in China are generally treated as 2nd citizen (in the world of business) and a woman with disability are treated even worst sometimes :(


#38



Chibibar

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...ge-blamed-for-apathy-in-toddlers-hit-and-run/

The “Nanjing judge” refers to an infamous 2006 incident where a young man named Peng Yu went to the aid of an elderly woman who had fallen down on the street in the eastern city of Nanjing. At the woman’s request, Peng helped take her to the hospital only to have the woman turn around and accuse him for being the person who knocked her down. A Nanjing judge then ruled that “common sense” suggested that Peng only took the woman to the hospital because he was guilty and ordered him to pay her medical expenses.
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#39

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

I fucking hate China.

I really do.


#40



Chibibar

doomdragon6 said:
I fucking hate China.

I really do.
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Well, when you have like 1.3 BILLION people to control, a lot of them have to be brain washed. It was said that Communism on a large scale doesn't work (that what I was told why Russia failed) but China did it via mass brain washing.

When you do it on a large scale, people blindly follow. Of course it helps when majority of the population are ignorant also except for the new generations.
It is slowly changing.
now people can have cellphones
people have limited internet (before it was none)
people can own a car (well it is scary down there when I visit)
people can own homes (more than one)


#41

Tress

Tress

Chibibar said:
It was said that Communism on a large scale doesn't work (that what I was told why Russia failed) but China did it via mass brain washing.
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Actually, China did it by redefining "Communism" as "capitalism with a heavy dose of central control." True communism still doesn't work, and won't work until fundamental aspects of human nature are changed.

OT: This is horrible. I don't think it's a uniquely Chinese problem though, as many have pointed out.


#42



Chibibar

Tress said:
Actually, China did it by redefining "Communism" as "capitalism with a heavy dose of central control." True communism still doesn't work, and won't work until fundamental aspects of human nature are changed.

OT: This is horrible. I don't think it's a uniquely Chinese problem though, as many have pointed out.
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Yea. I think today it is a lot of capitalism with central control. There is good and bad with it. the good is that China can get things done quickly without all the red tapes. the bads? well we already see what is the bad. Lack of human empathy, lack of safety, and even poor quality at times (short cuts to make more money)


#43

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

If you're living in China's rural area, odds are good someday your house will be purchased for 1/100th of what it's worth and be bulldozed to make a condo.


#44

Null

Null

The fact that things like this upset and shuck us actually gives me hope for humanity - because to us, this ISN'T acceptable.


#45

bhamv3

bhamv3

She died.

May you rest in peace.


#46

LordRendar

LordRendar

Chibibar said:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...ge-blamed-for-apathy-in-toddlers-hit-and-run/
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I would have "knocked" the old lady down for real if she would have done that to me.With a car.


#47

BananaHands

BananaHands



#48



Chibibar

Null said:
The fact that things like this upset and shuck us actually gives me hope for humanity - because to us, this ISN'T acceptable.
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That is true. there is hope for us yet!


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