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Oct 30, 2009#1

Covar

So I bought two london broils this week (buy one get one free) and plan to cook them tonight. My original plan was to just broil them with some salt and pepper, but now I'm thinking I should probably let them marinate for an hour or two first.

Share with me your suggestions, or else I'll just use some balsamic vinegar, and whatever herbs I have on me.

Oct 30, 2009#2

sixpackshaker

Make a brine.

Oct 30, 2009#3

Tinwhistler

try using equal parts basalmic vinegar and red wine. Add a tbs of soy sauce or so. Maybe some garlic (4 or 5 whole cloves) and honey for taste.

Best marinated for 24 hours, so if you're cooking them tonight, you're SoL

Oct 30, 2009#4

Jake

Covar said:
broil them with some salt and pepper

That's how I do the majority of my beefs. If you must get fancier, get a bottle of burgundy (cheap is fine) and some potatoes, carrots, onions, celery, and parsley. Sear the meat a little then add the other stuff, enough burgundy to cover, and salt and pepper. I usually do this in foil on a grill, so that may be too much liquid if you're cooking in an oven.

Oct 30, 2009#5

Chazwozel

Jake;286851][quote=Covar said:
broil them with some salt and pepper

Oct 30, 2009#6

Wasabi Poptart

When I make a london broil, I usually marinate it for a few hours in Italian dressing.

Oct 30, 2009#7

makare

I had to look up what a London broil is but over all I am with the salt and pepper people.

If you are going to eat beef you should be able to taste it.

Damn it, now I really want steak.... run it through a warm room... little salt. Mmmm.

Oct 30, 2009#8

Chazwozel

makare1 said:
I had to look up what a London broil is but over all I am with the salt and pepper people.

If you are going to eat beef you should be able to taste it.

Damn it, now I really want steak.... run it through a warm room... little salt. Mmmm.

Rare steak is for people that don't know how to properly cook a well-done steak without charring the shit out of it. Savages.

Oct 30, 2009#9

makare

People who eat well done steak do not deserve to eat steak. I want to go and take the steak away from them and trade it with shoe leather because they would not be able to tell the difference.

My mother is a masterful steak preparer she worked in one of those awesome old school steak houses so she can prepare a steak any way someone orders it. I have had well done steak and I think my tongue cried.

Oct 30, 2009#10

Tinwhistler

London Broil is flank steak...It's a tough cut of meat. If you eat a big hunk of it rare, you'll be chewing it all day.

There's a reason that it's typically marinated, braised and then cut across the grain.

Oct 30, 2009#11

makare

I thought it was a kind of roast. I do not eat roast rare but I do not marinate it.

Oct 30, 2009#12

Tinwhistler

well, the term 'london broil' really refers to the cooking method: marinated and then broiled. However, flank steak is the most common cut of meat you will get if you get meat labeled 'london broil' at the grocery store.

I usually make fajitas out of it.

Oct 30, 2009#13

Chazwozel

makare1 said:
People who eat well done steak do not deserve to eat steak. I want to go and take the steak away from them and trade it with shoe leather because they would not be able to tell the difference.

My mother is a masterful steak preparer she worked in one of those awesome old school steak houses so she can prepare a steak any way someone orders it. I have had well done steak and I think my tongue cried.

Oct 30, 2009#14

Armadillo

^Bingo. London Broil is a tough, tough cut o' meat.

And Chaz, there is no way to cook steak well-done without turning it into dust. If God wanted us to eat well-done beef, he wouldn't have given the cows blood.

Oct 30, 2009#15

Shannow

Armadillo said:
^Bingo. London Broil is a tough, tough cut o' meat.

And Chaz, there is no way to cook steak well-done without turning it into dust. If God wanted us to eat well-done beef, he wouldn't have given the cows blood.

Oct 30, 2009#16

Chazwozel

Armadillo said:
^Bingo. London Broil is a tough, tough cut o' meat.

And Chaz, there is no way to cook steak well-done without turning it into dust. If God wanted us to eat well-done beef, he wouldn't have given the cows blood.

Oct 30, 2009#17

makare

Chazwozel;286917][quote=makare1 said:
People who eat well done steak do not deserve to eat steak. I want to go and take the steak away from them and trade it with shoe leather because they would not be able to tell the difference.

My mother is a masterful steak preparer she worked in one of those awesome old school steak houses so she can prepare a steak any way someone orders it. I have had well done steak and I think my tongue cried.

Oct 30, 2009#18

rabbitgod

I'm going with Tin on this. I love flank steak, but you really need to marinate it.

I like to marinate in Lime juice (lemon is ok) and some garlic. Best left 24 hours, but I've had it at 4 hours and it wasn't too bad.

Here's another thing I do with flank.
Turn your oven on to bake at it's lowest temp, rack in the middle, Saute some onions, when golden brown pull them out and leave as much oil. Lightly coat the meat in proccessed chipotle (just grab a can 'en adobo' and put it in a food processor you'll only need a few ounces so buy a small can and put the left overs in the fridge) Fry that up for a few minutes each side depending on thickness. Put the meat on to the middle rack of your oven, don't forget a drip pan, leave it in there for 10ish minutes. While that happens heat up some small tortillas, get your salsa ready (almost anything chipotle based even Tabasco, verdes can be good too). Cut meat into strips across the grain, pile into tortillas, top with onions and salsa. It's pretty quick and tasty.

Oct 30, 2009#19

Chazwozel

makare1;286923][quote=Chazwozel;286917][quote=makare1 said:
People who eat well done steak do not deserve to eat steak. I want to go and take the steak away from them and trade it with shoe leather because they would not be able to tell the difference.

My mother is a masterful steak preparer she worked in one of those awesome old school steak houses so she can prepare a steak any way someone orders it. I have had well done steak and I think my tongue cried.

You, my friend, have not had proper well done steak. Like I said, there's more to charring the shit out of it and leaving it to dry. Good well done is grey throughout and still juicy as hell. The way I make it is such that it practically melts in your mouth. The key is to slice it thin to about a little over 1/4 inch.

Anyone can make a rare steak. Hell you might as well jump on the cow and take a chop out of it's ass.[/QUOTE]

like I said I have had properly well done steak and it is flavorless dreck. Rare steak is not that easy really because you want the outside done and the inside rare. I like mine slightly closer to medium rare but my stepfather's steak, sometimes I think you can hear it moo.[/QUOTE]

Medium rare steak. Cook one side, ten minutes. Flip over. Cook other side 10 minutes. Stick meat thermo in, check temp, or cut in the mid to check. I like to call this "caveman steak".

Oct 30, 2009#20

Armadillo

Shannow;286920][quote=Armadillo said:
^Bingo. London Broil is a tough, tough cut o' meat.

And Chaz, there is no way to cook steak well-done without turning it into dust. If God wanted us to eat well-done beef, he wouldn't have given the cows blood.

[/QUOTE]

Nope, you're wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrongity wrong wrong wrong.

Wrong.

Oct 30, 2009#21

makare

I dont think we even own a meat thermometer...

Oct 30, 2009#22

Chazwozel

Armadillo;286927][quote=Shannow;286920][quote=Armadillo said:
^Bingo. London Broil is a tough, tough cut o' meat.

And Chaz, there is no way to cook steak well-done without turning it into dust. If God wanted us to eat well-done beef, he wouldn't have given the cows blood.

[/QUOTE]

Nope, you're wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrongity wrong wrong wrong.

Wrong.[/QUOTE]

If God would want us to eat like Chimps and other Apes he wouldn't have let us master FIRE.

Oct 30, 2009#23

Chazwozel

makare1 said:
I dont think we even own a meat thermometer...

Then what the hell are you doing in a thread about London Broil? lol

Oct 30, 2009#24

makare

I said I had to look up what a london broil is.

But we make steak and roasts all the time without a thermometer.

Oct 30, 2009#25

Chazwozel

makare1 said:
I said I had to look up what a london broil is.

But we make steak and roasts all the time without a thermometer.

Savages.

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Tinwhistler said:
try using equal parts basalmic vinegar and red wine. Add a tbs of soy sauce or so. Maybe some garlic (4 or 5 whole cloves) and honey for taste.

Best marinated for 24 hours, so if you're cooking them tonight, you're SoL

This is good. As mentioned, Italian dressing works too.

Oct 30, 2009#26

Covar

London Broil - nothing to do with London, may not even be broiled.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. Still trying to figure it out, let you know what I come up with.

Also a short marinade is just as effective as a long one.

Oct 30, 2009#27

Chazwozel

Covar said:
London Broil - nothing to do with London, may not even be broiled.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. Still trying to figure it out, let you know what I come up with.

Also a short marinade is just as effective as a long one.

If you're doing a short marinade, definitely use something acidic like lemon juice or vinegar. Break up that meat.

Oct 30, 2009#28

makare

this whole thread is just a walking innuendo.

in YOUR endo. / the todd

Oct 30, 2009#29

Shannow

Armadillo;286927][quote=Shannow;286920][quote=Armadillo said:
^Bingo. London Broil is a tough, tough cut o' meat.

And Chaz, there is no way to cook steak well-done without turning it into dust. If God wanted us to eat well-done beef, he wouldn't have given the cows blood.

[/quote]

Nope, you're wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrongity wrong wrong wrong.

Wrong.[/QUOTE]

Oct 30, 2009#30

Chazwozel

makare1 said:
this whole thread is just a walking innuendo.

in YOUR endo. / the todd

lame...

Oct 30, 2009#31

Covar

Chazwozel;286941][quote=Covar said:
London Broil - nothing to do with London, may not even be broiled.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. Still trying to figure it out, let you know what I come up with.

Also a short marinade is just as effective as a long one.

If you're doing a short marinade, definitely use something acidic like lemon juice or vinegar. Break up that meat.[/QUOTE]

Yes.

Perhaps I will only marinate one, and just use salt and pepper on the other.

Oct 30, 2009#32

makare

Chazwozel;286946][quote=makare1 said:
this whole thread is just a walking innuendo.

in YOUR endo. / the todd

lame...[/QUOTE]

lame joke five! /the todd

Oct 30, 2009#33

Vytamindi

Look, if you want your steak done well, so be it. I used to only eat it that way.

Until I had my dad's medium rare goodness.

AND WTF? I've never owned a meat thermometer. Why do I need one now? I just see it as a HUGE hole that is left in the meat (unless it's a roast or turkey.... you know, somefin GIRTHY) in which the juices exit anyway.

Oct 30, 2009#34

Chazwozel

Vytamindi said:
Look, if you want your steak done well, so be it. I used to only eat it that way.

Until I had my dad's medium rare goodness.

AND WTF? I've never owned a meat thermometer. Why do I need one now? I just see it as a HUGE hole that is left in the meat (unless it's a roast or turkey.... you know, somefin GIRTHY) in which the juices exit anyway.

Savage

Oct 30, 2009#35

drawn_inward

I have a medium-well steak. Just a slight layer of pink throughout.

If you're not cooking on a grill, add some smoked paprika to the mix to give it a smokey flavor.

Oct 30, 2009#36

ThatGrinningIdiot!

I used to eat medium rare, until I contracted some disease or virus that left me vomiting non-stop for a week.

Never again.

Oct 30, 2009#37

Vytamindi

Chazwozel;286971][quote=Vytamindi said:
Look, if you want your steak done well, so be it. I used to only eat it that way.

Until I had my dad's medium rare goodness.

AND WTF? I've never owned a meat thermometer. Why do I need one now? I just see it as a HUGE hole that is left in the meat (unless it's a roast or turkey.... you know, somefin GIRTHY) in which the juices exit anyway.

Savage[/QUOTE]
Oh yea. Me think that me can cook steak without use of fancy strange hot teller. Me apologize.

*drags knuckles to Bed Bath & Beyond*

Oct 30, 2009#38

Iaculus

But... what if we don't want to marinate your meat?

What's in it for us?

Oct 30, 2009#39

Armadillo

BlackCrossCrusader said:
I used to eat medium rare, until I contracted some disease or virus that left me vomiting non-stop for a week.

Never again.

It's entirely possible, even probable, that your illness had nothing to do with the doneness of the meat. E. coli lives on the surface of muscle cuts, so as long as the surface is cooked, you could theoretically eat it blue rare and never get sick. Most likely, there was some cross-contamination in preparation or mishandling somewhere in the chain that even cooking it to well done wouldn't have solved. (Food Science and Microbiology FTW!)

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Vytamindi;286980][quote=Chazwozel;286971][quote=Vytamindi said:
Look, if you want your steak done well, so be it. I used to only eat it that way.

Until I had my dad's medium rare goodness.

AND WTF? I've never owned a meat thermometer. Why do I need one now? I just see it as a HUGE hole that is left in the meat (unless it's a roast or turkey.... you know, somefin GIRTHY) in which the juices exit anyway.

Savage[/QUOTE]
Oh yea. Me think that me can cook steak without use of fancy strange hot teller. Me apologize.

*drags knuckles to Bed Bath & Beyond*[/QUOTE]

True meat connoisseurs can tell the doneness by merely poking the steak with their fingers. Now roasts, I can see using a thermometer for.

Oct 30, 2009#40

Wasabi Poptart

London broil really needs to be medium-done because it's generally a tough cut of meat. Like Tin said, if it's rare you'll be chewing forever. But if you make it well-done, it's going to be shoe leather.

Personally, I love a medium-rare steak. Mmmm bloody steak. Depending on the cut of meat, salt & pepper with maybe a dash of garlic (cause I like it) is all you need for seasoning. Flank steak and other cuts that get the "london broil" label need a bit more TLC.

Oct 30, 2009#41

Frankie Williamson

Chazwozel;286926][quote=makare1;286923][quote=Chazwozel;286917][quote=makare1 said:
People who eat well done steak do not deserve to eat steak. I want to go and take the steak away from them and trade it with shoe leather because they would not be able to tell the difference.

My mother is a masterful steak preparer she worked in one of those awesome old school steak houses so she can prepare a steak any way someone orders it. I have had well done steak and I think my tongue cried.

Oct 30, 2009#42

Tinwhistler

I cook roasts for so long, there's no point in using a thermometer

Oct 31, 2009#43

Chazwozel

Frankie;287120][quote=Chazwozel;286926][quote=makare1;286923][quote=Chazwozel;286917][quote=makare1 said:
People who eat well done steak do not deserve to eat steak. I want to go and take the steak away from them and trade it with shoe leather because they would not be able to tell the difference.

My mother is a masterful steak preparer she worked in one of those awesome old school steak houses so she can prepare a steak any way someone orders it. I have had well done steak and I think my tongue cried.

Oct 31, 2009#44

Laurelai

I never use a thermometer on steaks. No real need I say. On something tricky that's so big you can't feel that's it's done sure- but steak? 6-ish minutes on one side, 6-ish minutes on the other side, let rest and viola- wonderful medium rare steak.

Medium rare I said!
I just had my steak for this three months (cry) I love delmonicos which are pretty fatty, so I only eat one every 3 months. I'd really really really hate to have another gall-bladder attack. That was a little piece of special alllll its own.

Oct 31, 2009#45

Frankie Williamson

Chazwozel;287229][quote=Frankie;287120][quote=Chazwozel;286926][quote=makare1;286923][quote=Chazwozel;286917][quote=makare1 said:
People who eat well done steak do not deserve to eat steak. I want to go and take the steak away from them and trade it with shoe leather because they would not be able to tell the difference.

My mother is a masterful steak preparer she worked in one of those awesome old school steak houses so she can prepare a steak any way someone orders it. I have had well done steak and I think my tongue cried.

Oct 31, 2009#46

Silvanesti

Chazwozel;286921][quote=Armadillo said:
^Bingo. London Broil is a tough, tough cut o' meat.

And Chaz, there is no way to cook steak well-done without turning it into dust. If God wanted us to eat well-done beef, he wouldn't have given the cows blood.

Yes there is. Ugh... Charcoal grill. Tinfoil. Let it cook thoughout in it's own juices in direct flame. Remove Tinfoil. Cook directly on flame for 5 minutes to sear the outside and give a nice smoke finish. Tada! Juicy, well done steak.[/QUOTE]

So... you pretty much braise the steak? Why bother with steak then? Seem like a waste of money, if i was going to do something like that i wouldn't bother with an expensive cut of steak i'de get something shitty that would bennifit from that kind of cooking. But hey, im sure it tastes great.

Oct 31, 2009#47

Vytamindi

Silvanesti said:
So... you pretty much braise the steak? Why bother with steak then? Seem like a waste of money, if i was going to do something like that i wouldn't bother with an expensive cut of steak i'de get something shitty that would bennifit from that kind of cooking. But hey, im sure it tastes great.

I know, right?

Oct 31, 2009#48

Silvanesti

Vytamindi;287265][quote=Silvanesti said:
So... you pretty much braise the steak? Why bother with steak then? Seem like a waste of money, if i was going to do something like that i wouldn't bother with an expensive cut of steak i'de get something shitty that would bennifit from that kind of cooking. But hey, im sure it tastes great.

I know, right?[/QUOTE]

right.

Oct 31, 2009#49

The Lovely Boehner

Point of order, there is no "blood" in steaks.

Oct 31, 2009#50

Rob King

I've been eating my steaks done Medium Well for years. I think it's time to try shifting that Rare-ward, and see how I like it.

Put hair on my balls and all that.

Oct 31, 2009#51

Armadillo

Charlie Dont Surf said:
Point of order, there is no "blood" in steaks.

There most certainly is, just not a lot. The bleeding out process doesn't remove ALL blood from the animal; there's going to be some in the capillaries that don't drain fully. For the non-food science folks out there going, "it's red! That's blood!": the red color in meat is from a protein called myoglobin, which is present in muscle tissue. I could go into all the pigment changes that occur in storage and cooking, but who the hell wants to read that shit?

Oct 31, 2009#52

Bubble181

I like my steak anywhere from seignant to cuit; bien cuit or bleu are for people who just like going overboard.
Of course, I've never - literally - eaten a good steak in France; they just do'nt know what to do with a piece of meat. Belgian cuisine away!

Oct 31, 2009#53

Espy

Chefwozel.... heh heh. Someone is brilliant.

Nov 1, 2009#54

Cuyval Dar

I gotta say, I'm totally with Chefwozel and Shannow on this.
Anyone who eats a steak that is anywhere south of medium-well is an uncivilised savage.

Nov 1, 2009#55

Chazwozel

Cuyval Dar said:
I gotta say, I'm totally with Chefwozel and Shannow on this.
Anyone who eats a steak that is anywhere south of medium-well is an uncivilised savage.

I had a piece of filet mignon this weekend. I had it medium-well. This is the only cut that I eat like this since it's usually too thick to pull off a well done without it being tough as shoe leather.

Nov 1, 2009#56

makare

That is the saddest thing ever chaz. you make the steak gods cry.

Nov 1, 2009#57

Espy

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, WAIT.

There are people here who actually cook delicious steaks beyond Medium?

Nov 1, 2009#58

Chazwozel

makare1 said:
That is the saddest thing ever chaz. you make the steak gods cry.

That's fine, you go on and enjoy your tapeworms.

Nov 1, 2009#59

Silvanesti

Chazwozel;287459][quote=makare1 said:
That is the saddest thing ever chaz. you make the steak gods cry.

That's fine, you go on and enjoy your tapeworms.[/QUOTE]

Tapeworms? hahahahaha hah

riiiight. :rolleyes:

Nov 1, 2009#60

Kitty Sinatra

salt? on steak? Bleh. Well, I shouldn't actually say that as I'm sure the cooks pour prodigious amounts of the crap on my steak when I eat out. But at home? Salt is for the driveway.

Also, I can't imagine ordering a decent steak with any form of "done." It's such a waste of potential . . . and apparently restaurants shovel off the dregs of their meat to those who order it well done so you're getting even less than than you paid for.

Nov 1, 2009#61

Chazwozel

Silvanesti;287460][quote=Chazwozel;287459][quote=makare1 said:
That is the saddest thing ever chaz. you make the steak gods cry.

That's fine, you go on and enjoy your tapeworms.[/QUOTE]

Tapeworms? hahahahaha hah

riiiight. :rolleyes:

In the US it would be so slim (edit: just found the info, about 1000 cases a year, for pork, beef, and other). I'll enjoy eating my food like it should be, rather then overpaying for some hunk of boiled beef.[/QUOTE]

Your food should be raw? What ever floats your boat, man. My dogs eat raw meat too. They also like to eat their own shit...

I don't boil my steak, fyi. <scratches head>

Nov 1, 2009#62

makare

Rare is not raw. If any type of cooked meat is akin to digested matter it is well-done steak.

Nov 1, 2009#63

Kitty Sinatra

I whistled for the waitress and when she came near
Her name tag said "Steff" and she had quite a nice rear
If anything I could say that this chick was fair
But I thought man forget it, "gimme a steak, medium rare"

(bah, that totally sucked)

Nov 1, 2009#64

Espy

I'll be honest, I do not care for Rare, however, Medium Rare, piping hot all the way through is... well, it's just about the dang tastiest thing ever. Assuming it's a good piece of meat that is. I'm actually really picky about my steak.

Nov 1, 2009#65

Armadillo

Chazwozel;287459][quote=makare1 said:
That is the saddest thing ever chaz. you make the steak gods cry.

That's fine, you go on and enjoy your tapeworms.[/QUOTE]

E. coli, and as I said earlier, it lives on the surface. Cook the surface, and you'll be just fine.

Of course, this assumes proper handling through the slaughter, cutting, holding, and preparation steps, but if someone else fucks up your meat, nothing short of incineration will help you out.

Chaz, have you ever HAD steak less than medium well?

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Gruebeard said:
salt? on steak? Bleh. Well, I shouldn't actually say that as I'm sure the cooks pour prodigious amounts of the crap on my steak when I eat out. But at home? Salt is for the driveway.

Salt=flavor. Unsalted steak tastes like cardboard. Now, if your food tastes like salt, then it's oversalted. If it tastes like FOOD, then it's properly seasoned (salt and pepper.)

Nov 1, 2009#66

drawn_inward

Armadillo said:
E. coli, and as I said earlier, it lives on the surface. Cook the surface, and you'll be just fine.

Nov 1, 2009#67

Vytamindi

Chaz, we're not trying to make you love tender and flavorful meat.

We're just making fun of you for liking well done.

Nov 1, 2009#68

Armadillo

drawn_inward;287541][quote=Armadillo said:
E. coli, and as I said earlier, it lives on the surface. Cook the surface, and you'll be just fine.

This is the truth. People get into trouble with ground beef more often than steak or roast. Even the pork in the US is relatively safe to have medium-well. I just don't care for the taste of medium-rare or medium steak.

On a similar note, these are my favorite steaks: sirloin<NY Strip<Ribeye.

I love a good ribeye, but I've had equally good, cheap $5 sirloin that was cooked with salt and pepper on a grill.[/QUOTE]

You can actually eat pork medium-rare if it's been properly sourced and handled. Trichinosis has been, for all intents and purposes, eradicated in the US owing to better feeding habits for pigs. Besides, even if you did get a dodgy slice o' swine, Trichinella spiralis dies at 135 degrees, and medium pork is 160 degrees. The only meats that MUST MUST MUST be cooked to well done are chicken and turkey. Even duck and squab can be eaten rare.

Nov 2, 2009#69

figmentPez

Espy said:
I'm actually really picky about my steak.

What about ribs? Do you have any recommendations on picking out some good ones? I don't know much about them, but I've heard people say that baby-backed ribs are good, so I figured you're the one to ask.

Nov 2, 2009#70

Frankie Williamson

mr_thehun said:
I miss good ole Alberta Beef. The cow just doens't taste the same here.

Chicken, pork, lamb, frog, deer and all the other meats, taste better here for some reason.

Anyone who says that by and large, their regions beef is better than Alberta beef is full of shit.

Nov 2, 2009#71

Frankie Williamson

Wait, wait, wait, except for Kobe beef. The Japanese can do some damn good beef too.

Nov 2, 2009#72

Chazwozel

Vytamindi said:
Chaz, we're not trying to make you love tender and flavorful meat.

We're just making fun of you for liking well done.

I'm not offended. Why would I be offended for being mocked because I don't eat like a dog?

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Armadillo;287536][quote=Chazwozel;287459][quote=makare1 said:
That is the saddest thing ever chaz. you make the steak gods cry.

Gruebeard said:
salt? on steak? Bleh. Well, I shouldn't actually say that as I'm sure the cooks pour prodigious amounts of the crap on my steak when I eat out. But at home? Salt is for the driveway.

Salt=flavor. Unsalted steak tastes like cardboard. Now, if your food tastes like salt, then it's oversalted. If it tastes like FOOD, then it's properly seasoned (salt and pepper.)[/QUOTE]

I've had steak that's been cooked from rare to well done. My opinion is based off this. I just don't like the rubbery, flimsy texture associated with rare to medium rare steaks. I also like my food hot, not lukewarm or cold in the center. If I wanted to eat like a caveman, I'd stalk farms and kill cows with a spear while feasting right there on the spot. Like I said, I'm not offended in the least bit; I always enjoy watching people get snobby over their undercooked food.

Nov 2, 2009#73

Vytamindi

Chazwozel said:
I always enjoy watching people get snobby over

Nov 2, 2009#74

Chazwozel

Vytamindi;287631][quote=Chazwozel said:
I always enjoy watching people get snobby over

[/QUOTE]

No no, you go ahead and enjoy:

Nov 2, 2009#75

Covar

Chazwozel;287646][quote=Vytamindi;287631][quote=Chazwozel said:
I always enjoy watching people get snobby over

[/QUOTE]

No no, you go ahead and enjoy:

[/QUOTE]
You realize that is cooked well done right? :Leyla:

Anywho, my london broil adventure. So Friday night over half my friends canceled on me at the last minute, so I just waited until Saturday to cook. I only made one, marinated it in the morning with some balsamic vinegar, pomegranate juice, light brown sugar, olive oil, and rosemary. Broiled it for 8 minutes a side, and it came out good, right between medium and medium rare. While the meat was resting I took the marinade, poured it into a pan on medium high heat and began making sauce. It only made about a quarter cup but you didn't really need all that much so it worked out nicely. sweet, but with a bit of tang.

The second london broil is still marinating as we speak, I'm going to make it up tomorrow night, hopefully it comes as good.

Nov 2, 2009#76

Tinwhistler

Covar;287661][quote=Chazwozel said:
No no, you go ahead and enjoy:

You realize that is cooked well done right? :Leyla:

[/QUOTE]

Nov 2, 2009#77

The Lovely Boehner

Well done steak is MUCH closer to dog food than a good Medium Rare.

Nov 2, 2009#78

Dave

I always order Medium. Less issues that way. If the cooks are good then the steak is just as I like it - brown with a hint of pink on the inside (insert your own jokes here). If the cooks are not that good and over- or under-cook it then it's still okay as I like steak both medium rare and medium well.

But I don't get steak very often as I am not a wealthy individual. So when I eat steak it's like putting God in my mouth. Which is not as gay as it sounds. God isn't a mousy little mama's boy! God is BUTCH!

Nov 2, 2009#79

Chazwozel

Covar;287661][quote=Chazwozel;287646][quote=Vytamindi;287631][quote=Chazwozel said:
I always enjoy watching people get snobby over

[/QUOTE]

No no, you go ahead and enjoy:

[/QUOTE]
You realize that is cooked well done right? :Leyla:

Nov 2, 2009#80

makare

You said I've never had well prepared well done steak but I have. You however must not have had good rare steak if it was cold.

Go ahead and keep eating ruined steak, more awesome steak for the rest of us.

Dave said:
But I don't get steak very often as I am not a wealthy individual. So when I eat steak it's like putting God in my mouth. Which is not as gay as it sounds. God isn't a mousy little mama's boy! God is BUTCH!

That's one of the awesome thing about having cattle ranchers for friends and family. We have an abundance of steak. Last time I was home I had steak for supper every night and this weekend when I am home I shall have steak again.. Woohoo!

Nov 2, 2009#81

The Lovely Boehner

Chazwozel said:
Heh, well I feed my dogs raw steak tips after making my cuts.

Your dogs are literally eating better than you, like not that haw haw figure of speech. Heh.

Nov 2, 2009#82

Chazwozel

makare1 said:
You said I've never had well prepared well done steak but I have. You however must not have had good rare steak if it was cold.

Go ahead and keep eating ruined steak, more awesome steak for the rest of us.

Dave said:

But I don't get steak very often as I am not a wealthy individual. So when I eat steak it's like putting God in my mouth. Which is not as gay as it sounds. God isn't a mousy little mama's boy! God is BUTCH!

Click to expand...

That's one of the awesome thing about having cattle ranchers for friends and family. We have an abundance of steak. Last time I was home I had steak for supper every night and this weekend when I am home I shall have steak again.. Woohoo!

So is it fun to group hunt and scream a victory yell while feasting on a fallen cow like Savannah lions?

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Charlie Dont Surf;287686][quote=Chazwozel said:
Heh, well I feed my dogs raw steak tips after making my cuts.

Your dogs are literally eating better than you, like not that haw haw figure of speech. Heh.[/QUOTE]

While we're at it, let's consume raw eggs and chicken and be smug about it.

Nov 2, 2009#83

Dave

Chazwozel;287687][quote=makare1 said:
You said I've never had well prepared well done steak but I have. You however must not have had good rare steak if it was cold.

Go ahead and keep eating ruined steak, more awesome steak for the rest of us.

Dave said:

But I don't get steak very often as I am not a wealthy individual. So when I eat steak it's like putting God in my mouth. Which is not as gay as it sounds. God isn't a mousy little mama's boy! God is BUTCH!

Click to expand...

That's one of the awesome thing about having cattle ranchers for friends and family. We have an abundance of steak. Last time I was home I had steak for supper every night and this weekend when I am home I shall have steak again.. Woohoo!

So is it fun to group hunt and scream a victory yell while feasting on a fallen cow like Savannah lions?[/QUOTE]

Ever tried it?

Nov 2, 2009#84

Chazwozel

Dave;287690][quote=Chazwozel;287687][quote=makare1 said:
You said I've never had well prepared well done steak but I have. You however must not have had good rare steak if it was cold.

Go ahead and keep eating ruined steak, more awesome steak for the rest of us.

Dave said:

But I don't get steak very often as I am not a wealthy individual. So when I eat steak it's like putting God in my mouth. Which is not as gay as it sounds. God isn't a mousy little mama's boy! God is BUTCH!

Click to expand...

That's one of the awesome thing about having cattle ranchers for friends and family. We have an abundance of steak. Last time I was home I had steak for supper every night and this weekend when I am home I shall have steak again.. Woohoo!

So is it fun to group hunt and scream a victory yell while feasting on a fallen cow like Savannah lions?[/QUOTE]

Ever tried it?[/QUOTE]

No, but now I actually want to. :-/

Regardless of what your tastes are. I stick to my guns. It takes more skill to grill up a good well done steak. So if you consider cooked food to be 'ruined', more power to you.

http://bbq.about.com/od/steaks/ss/aa101606a_6.htm

This steak should NOT be burnt on the outside. While there is not even the faintest hint of pink in the middle it should be browned through, not burnt through. This steak should feel solid all the way through.

A Well Done steak is the hardest to cook. The secret is to do it low and slow. It's the only way to prevent burning while getting it cooked through the middle. Grill this steak over a medium heat for between 10 and 12 minutes per side.

Most people will tell you that this is the steak for people who don't like steak. While there is some truth to that, it is a popular way to get a steak so any good griller needs to know how to do it.

I like steak, but I don't like eating rawish meat. Sorry.

Nov 2, 2009#85

Tinwhistler

A couple points:
1) If your red- or pink-centered steak is 'rubbery' textured, you have a really shitty cut of meat there. Cooking it well done might help hide the poor quality of the meat, but don't blame the cooking method for what is clearly an inferior cut of meat.

2) Raw eggs have featured in many foods, such as egg nog and mayonnaise. However, due to salmonella fears, raw chicken and eggs are much less safe to eat these days than rare beef. The USDA considers 145 a proper safe temperature for Beef, veal, and lamb steaks, roasts, and chops. Chicken, on the other hand, should be cooked to 165 to kill salmonella.

If your steak is at room temperature when you cook it (as it should be) the internal temperature will not be cold, and you can cook a medium or medium rare steak that is cooked through to the proper minimum temperature, and that is not cold or unpleasant in the center. A truly well-cooked medium-rare steak should melt in your mouth.

youtube vid of Gordon Ramsey making a steak (sorry, embedding is disabled)

Nov 2, 2009#86

Chazwozel

Tinwhistler said:
A truly well-cooked medium-rare steak should melt in your mouth.

Same goes for a well done Delmonico cut steak. I've never grilled up a well done steak that doesn't fall apart in your mouth, and I let the edges slightly char for a good BBQ off the grill flavor.

I whole hearty agree, rubber steak tastes like shit. Which is why I question the quality of preparedness other people have had. I'll order medium-well or medium-rare if I trust that the cook doesn't know how to cook steak properly because anyone can throw a slab of meat on the grill and sear the thing for 8 minutes on each side.

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Tinwhistler said:
2) Raw eggs have featured in many foods, such as egg nog and mayonnaise. However, due to salmonella fears, raw chicken and eggs are much less safe to eat these days than rare beef. The USDA considers 145 a proper safe temperature for Beef, veal, and lamb steaks, roasts, and chops. Chicken, on the other hand, should be cooked to 165 to kill salmonella.

I used to drink a glass of raw eggs back when I played football in highschool, never got sick, but man that was disgusting. Egg nog is the grossest thing in the world and mayonnaise is a close second. The only thing mayo is good for is potato salad and salad dressing. Not all raw food is bad though, I appreciate the effort and skill it takes to prepare good sushi.

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Tinwhistler said:
youtube vid of Gordon Ramsey making a steak (sorry, embedding is disabled)

Yeah, I've been to one of Ramsey's restaurants in New York. His menu is good, but it's not as outstanding as he makes it out to be.

Nov 2, 2009#87

Tinwhistler

we're old Chaz. A lot more chickens have salmonella than did back when we were kids.

That said, your argument basically boils down to "I don't like medium steak, egg nog, or mayonnaise."

Yah, personal preferences FTW.

BTW..you do know that the charred bits you like so much are carcinogenic, right?

Nov 2, 2009#88

Chazwozel

Tinwhistler said:
we're old Chaz. A lot more chickens have salmonella than did back when we were kids.

I'm not sure about that. I think it's more that we didn't give a crap. Typhoid fever has always been around. If I was playing sports as intensely as I used to I'd still rather drink raw egg than use that protein whey chemical shit.

Anything has the potential to be a carcinogen. Wood dust is a carcinogen. Sunlight is too. I'm very strongly of the science camp that favors genetics over environment as being the bigger factor for cancer development. That is though, I wouldn't expect someone exposed to strong x-rays everyday to not come down with some kind of crippling cancer later in life. It's not like I eat charred ends exclusively as my diet.

Nov 2, 2009#89

Tinwhistler

Chazwozel;287710][quote=Tinwhistler said:
we're old Chaz. A lot more chickens have salmonella than did back when we were kids.

I'm not sure about that. I think it's more that we didn't give a crap. Typhoid fever has always been around. If I was playing sports as intensely as I used to I'd still rather drink raw egg than use that protein whey chemical shit.

Anything has the potential to be a carcinogen. Wood dust is a carcinogen. Sunlight is too. I'm very strongly of the science camp that favors genetics over environment as being the bigger factor for cancer development. That is though, I wouldn't expect someone exposed to strong x-rays everyday to not come down with some kind of crippling cancer later in life. It's not like I eat charred ends exclusively as my diet.[/QUOTE]

wait..did you just equate eating charred steak to be equivalent to ingesting wood dust?

Nov 2, 2009#90

The Lovely Boehner

if eating raw eggs is good enough for Rocky it's good enough for me

Nov 2, 2009#91

Chazwozel

Tinwhistler;287713][quote=Chazwozel;287710][quote=Tinwhistler said:
we're old Chaz. A lot more chickens have salmonella than did back when we were kids.

I'm not sure about that. I think it's more that we didn't give a crap. Typhoid fever has always been around. If I was playing sports as intensely as I used to I'd still rather drink raw egg than use that protein whey chemical shit.

Anything has the potential to be a carcinogen. Wood dust is a carcinogen. Sunlight is too. I'm very strongly of the science camp that favors genetics over environment as being the bigger factor for cancer development. That is though, I wouldn't expect someone exposed to strong x-rays everyday to not come down with some kind of crippling cancer later in life. It's not like I eat charred ends exclusively as my diet.[/QUOTE]

wait..did you just equate eating charred steak to be equivalent to ingesting wood dust?

[/QUOTE]

Or getting a tan. Smartass ;-)

Nov 2, 2009#92

Frankie Williamson

I like my pork cooked medium too.

OH SHIT! TRICHONOSIS!

Nov 2, 2009#93

Dave

Frankie said:
I like my pork cooked medium too.

OH SHIT! TRICHONOSIS!

Tricky noses?

Nov 2, 2009#94

Covar

Alton Brown taught me how to do more than just follow a recipe, and showed me why. Gordon Ramsay motivated me. YOU STUPID COW!

Nov 2, 2009#95

Chazwozel

Frankie said:
I like my pork cooked medium too.

OH SHIT! TRICHONOSIS!

"See you for dinner, friend"

And here's one of Chaz's famous charts of fun filled science facts. This is the life cycle of T. solium.

Thar be reasons why cooking meat thoroughly be good for you.

Nov 2, 2009#96

Frankie Williamson

Chazwozel;287738][quote=Frankie said:
I like my pork cooked medium too.

OH SHIT! TRICHONOSIS!

"See you for dinner, friend"

And here's one of Chaz's famous charts of fun filled science facts. This is the life cycle of T. solium.

Thar be reasons why cooking meat thoroughly be good for you.[/QUOTE]

It's also been 20 years since there has been a case in Alberta.

Nov 2, 2009#97

Armadillo

Did you miss my post about the eradication of Tricky Noses on the last page? SHEESH!!!

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Chazwozel said:
It's not like I eat charred ends exclusively as my diet.

Yes you do. You eat well-done steak.

Nov 2, 2009#98

Chazwozel

Armadillo said:
Did you miss my post about the eradication of Tricky Noses on the last page? SHEESH!!!

---------- Post added at 07:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:21 PM ----------

Chazwozel said:

It's not like I eat charred ends exclusively as my diet.

Click to expand...

Yes you do. You eat well-done steak.

I have steak maybe five or six times a year. It's not exactly my most favorite food in the whole wide world.

Nov 2, 2009#99

Covar

probably because you cook it well done.

Nov 2, 2009#100

Tinwhistler

I'm not sure I could eat this even 5 or 6 times a year.

Nov 2, 2009#101

Chibibar

Tinwhistler said:
I'm not sure I could eat this even 5 or 6 times a year.

mmmmmmmmmmm lunch!

Nov 2, 2009#102

Krisken

Tinwhistler said:
I'm not sure I could eat this even 5 or 6 times a year.

That is just downright dangerous. I hope whoever that place belongs to has good insurance for when he loses a finger.

Nov 2, 2009#103

Chazwozel

Tinwhistler said:
I'm not sure I could eat this even 5 or 6 times a year.

har har laugh it up old man; you and your weekly steak eating.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and bet that your rare-steak eaters also put beans in your chili. <shutter>

Nov 2, 2009#104

The Lovely Boehner

Chazwozel said:
beans in your chili. <shutter>

no...no....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I agree with Chaz.

Nov 2, 2009#105

Dave

Shouldn't that be "shudder"?

Nov 2, 2009#106

Tinwhistler

Chazwozel said:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and bet that your rare-steak eaters also put beans in your chili. <shutter>

Are you kidding? I'm from Texas. Beans in chili here is a capital offense.

Nov 2, 2009#107

Chazwozel

Dave said:
Shouldn't that be "shudder"?

Yes it should be.

Man I can't slide by with anything anymore...

Nov 2, 2009#108

The Lovely Boehner

I have to rethink this now. Maybe beans in chili is the best thing ever if it's hated by the same palate that only enjoys well-done steaks

Nov 2, 2009#109

Chibibar

Charlie Dont Surf said:
I have to rethink this now. Maybe beans in chili is the best thing ever if it's hated by the same palate that only enjoys well-done steaks

bean chili probably safe

regular chili (homemade) not so much
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091102/ts_nm/us_ecoli_usa_meat_7

looks like ground beef have some issue now.

Nov 2, 2009#110

Chazwozel

That's it. I'm buying steak this weekend. I'm having a steak off. I'm going to get 6 oz portions and cook them rare, medium and well done. I'm going to invite a few friends over, whom I know order their steak rare and bloody. I'm going to see just how they react to my well-done steaks vs. their rare/medium crap. Written testimony and pictures to follow.

And you guys keep referring to overcooked steak, not well done steak. That's your first mistake. No one likes overcooked steak. Don't blame me just because yo mama and papa can't cook. I think the main problem here is no one's ever had a properly cooked steak here.

Nov 2, 2009#111

Dave

Chazwozel;287858][quote=Dave said:
Shouldn't that be "shudder"?

Yes it should be.

Man I can't slide by with anything anymore...[/QUOTE]

You have the right to remain silent. If you choose to give up that right, you must learn the difference between "you're" and "your" as well as "it's" and "its". In addition, mixing up "lie" and "lay" can get you 5-10 with a Guadalajaran chain gang member named Paco whose only English is, "You is my woman now."

Nov 2, 2009#112

figmentPez

Chibibar;287864][quote=Charlie Dont Surf said:
I have to rethink this now. Maybe beans in chili is the best thing ever if it's hated by the same palate that only enjoys well-done steaks

bean chili probably safe

regular chili (homemade) not so much
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091102/ts_nm/us_ecoli_usa_meat_7

looks like ground beef have some issue now.[/QUOTE]

You do realize that not all chili is made with ground beef, right? Second, when I make my chili the ground beef simmers in the chili long enough to kill off any bacteria that might have contaminated the meat.

That said, I still prefer a good burger to steak.

Nov 2, 2009#113

Simfers

Out of curiosity: If the people who like their steak medium-rare are savages, what am I? I like mine blue-rare.

Nov 2, 2009#114

makare

Since rare to medium rare is perfect, well-done is, ipso facto, overcooked.

Nov 2, 2009#115

Frankie Williamson

Wait, wait, wait, people make chili without beans? What magical world is this and where can I go there? Every time someone asks me if I like chili I just tell them no, I don't like beans. Man, I wish I knew other people who didn't like beans in chili.

Nov 2, 2009#116

makare

If you dont put beans in it what is it then just meat soup? I am asking seriously because I have never had chili without beans. I like beans so I don't care.

Nov 2, 2009#117

Silvanesti

Chazwozel said:
Regardless of what your tastes are. I stick to my guns. It takes more skill to grill up a good well done steak. So if you consider cooked food to be 'ruined', more power to you.

So? Just because something's more difficult doesn't make it better. It would be hard to eat soup with a sieve, but it doesn't make it good.

Nov 2, 2009#118

drawn_inward

Why the bean hate? What did they do to you? They're a great food.

Legume lovers link-up!

I always make my chili with beans.

I am making a giant pot of pinto beans and jalapeno corn bread on the side tomorrow.

Nov 2, 2009#119

The Lovely Boehner

Frankie said:
Wait, wait, wait, people make chili without beans? What magical world is this and where can I go there? Every time someone asks me if I like chili I just tell them no, I don't like beans. Man, I wish I knew other people who didn't like beans in chili.

TEXAS

Nov 2, 2009#120

makare

Texas... sigh.

Nov 2, 2009#121

The Lovely Boehner

don't mess with texas.

Nov 2, 2009#122

Chippy

Now I'm starving.

Nov 2, 2009#123

Chazwozel

makare1 said:
If you dont put beans in it what is it then just meat soup? I am asking seriously because I have never had chili without beans. I like beans so I don't care.

Chili without beans is called Texas Chili. I'll have to ask Tin, but I do believe you can be drawn and quartered for making bean chili within 10 miles of the Texas border.

You would be a bean eater...

This is perfect. You see what you medium steak loving chumps have been following? The pied piping tune of a CHILI BEAN EATER!

Any opinion you make about food, the eating of or preparation of, from here on out is null and void.

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makare1 said:
Texas... sigh.

Woah. Now you mock the land of the steaks?!?!

Nov 2, 2009#124

The Lovely Boehner

but....but... I loathe beans and steak cooked above Medium.....it's two different tastes....

Nov 2, 2009#125

Chazwozel

Charlie Dont Surf said:
but....but... I loathe beans and steak cooked above Medium.....it's two different tastes....

Follow that hypnotic tune...TO YOUR DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

Nov 2, 2009#126

Chazwozel

mr_thehun said:
It's OK Charlie. I also dislike beans and overcooked steak.

Dude, your countrymen eat dogs. You've got no ground to stand on.

Nov 2, 2009#127

makare

I haven't led anyone. Chili beans are awesome. Chaz has no taste for flavor or texture.

We should all cry for him.

South Dakota is the true land of steaks.

Nov 2, 2009#128

Chazwozel

makare1 said:
I haven't led anyone. Chili beans are awesome. Chaz has no taste for flavor or texture.

We should all cry for him.

South Dakota is the true land of steaks.

You gotta let me in on what kind of wonderful drugs you take.

Nov 2, 2009#129

Vytamindi

I like chili with beans. It makes sure that I get the good stuff from the legume family!

I also like chili with no beans! I'm easy to please!

Nov 2, 2009#130

makare

Chazwozel;288075][quote=makare1 said:
I haven't led anyone. Chili beans are awesome. Chaz has no taste for flavor or texture.

We should all cry for him.

South Dakota is the true land of steaks.

You gotta let me in on what kind of wonderful drugs you take.[/QUOTE]

I would rather have drugs and good food than no drugs and the pure shit you eat.

Enjoy.

Nov 2, 2009#131

Chazwozel

makare1;288082][quote=Chazwozel;288075][quote=makare1 said:
I haven't led anyone. Chili beans are awesome. Chaz has no taste for flavor or texture.

We should all cry for him.

South Dakota is the true land of steaks.

You gotta let me in on what kind of wonderful drugs you take.[/QUOTE]

I would rather have drugs and good food than no drugs and the pure shit you eat.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]

Now now, play nice. I know it's hard not to take things too personally considering the only thing your state has to offer is probably Mount Rushmore and steer, but just remember your opinion on food is null and void because you eat beans in your chili. I realize you have a tremendously skewed world view growing up around ill prepared meat and Indian casinos, but try to resist the urge to be a total thin-skinned bitch about it. I understand your food is important to you, much like one shouldn't pull a bone from a dog's mouth, but there's no reason to be snippy. I do forget how savages can behave from time to time though.

Just imagine this as your reawakening. Sort of like walking out of Plato's cave. There will be bouts of anger and frustration, I'm sure. But in the end you'll walk out of this a a better person, and realize that, "hey the great Chaz is right! Beans in chili are utterly disgusting and take away from the flavor of what is supposed to be primarily meat and hot sauce. And wow, steak that is prepared correctly is actually quite flavorful even when it's cooked throughout."

Stick that in your corn hole and smoke it!

Nov 2, 2009#132

Krisken

Chazwozel;288113][quote=makare1;288082][quote=Chazwozel;288075][quote=makare1 said:
I haven't led anyone. Chili beans are awesome. Chaz has no taste for flavor or texture.

We should all cry for him.

South Dakota is the true land of steaks.

You gotta let me in on what kind of wonderful drugs you take.[/quote]

I would rather have drugs and good food than no drugs and the pure shit you eat.

Enjoy.[/quote]

Now now, play nice. I know it's hard not to take things too personally considering the only thing your state has to offer is probably Mount Rushmore and steer, but just remember your opinion on food is null and void because you eat beans in your chili. I realize you have a tremendously skewed world view growing up around ill prepared meat and Indian casinos, but try to resist the urge to be a total thin-skinned bitch about it. I understand your food is important to you, much like one shouldn't pull a bone from a dog's mouth, but there's no reason to be snippy. I do forget how savages can behave from time to time though.

Just imagine this as your reawakening. Sort of like walking out of Plato's cave. There will be bouts of anger and frustration, I'm sure. But in the end you'll walk out of this a a better person, and realize that, "hey the great Chaz is right! Beans in chili are utterly disgusting and take away from the flavor of what is supposed to be primarily meat and hot sauce. And wow, steak that is prepared correctly is actually quite flavorful even when it's cooked throughout."

Stick that in your corn hole and smoke it!

[/QUOTE]
Definition of irony- Someone from Texas calling others "Savages".

Nov 2, 2009#133

Chazwozel

Krisken;288137][quote=Chazwozel;288113][quote=makare1;288082][quote=Chazwozel;288075][quote=makare1 said:
I haven't led anyone. Chili beans are awesome. Chaz has no taste for flavor or texture.

We should all cry for him.

South Dakota is the true land of steaks.

[/QUOTE]
Definition of irony- Someone from Texas calling others "Savages".[/QUOTE]

I'm from NYC motherfucker.

Nov 2, 2009#134

Krisken

Chazwozel;288138][quote=Krisken;288137][quote=Chazwozel;288113][quote=makare1;288082][quote=Chazwozel;288075][quote=makare1 said:
I haven't led anyone. Chili beans are awesome. Chaz has no taste for flavor or texture.

We should all cry for him.

South Dakota is the true land of steaks.

[/quote]
Definition of irony- Someone from Texas calling others "Savages".[/quote]

I'm from NYC motherfucker.[/QUOTE]
My mistake. NY resident calling others savages is funny too.

Nov 2, 2009#135

Chazwozel

Krisken;288140][quote=Chazwozel;288138][quote=Krisken;288137][quote=Chazwozel;288113][quote=makare1;288082][quote=Chazwozel;288075][quote=makare1 said:
I haven't led anyone. Chili beans are awesome. Chaz has no taste for flavor or texture.

We should all cry for him.

South Dakota is the true land of steaks.

[/quote]
Definition of irony- Someone from Texas calling others "Savages".[/quote]

I'm from NYC motherfucker.[/QUOTE]
My mistake. NY resident calling others savages is funny too.[/QUOTE]

NYC is only the epicenter of the U.S. Eastcoast. Flame Fail. And I'm [from] NYC. I live in Philadelphia. Now you can make an argument for Philly being the epicenter of shit, but leave New York outta this.

Nov 2, 2009#136

Krisken

Chazwozel said:
NYC is only the epicenter of the U.S. Eastcoast. Flame Fail.

Being in the epicenter of the East Coast doesn't make you prom king. It just means you're the king of suck.

Nov 2, 2009#137

Chippy

Chazwozel said:
Words I didn't read

Yessss

Nov 2, 2009#138

Chazwozel

Krisken;288148][quote=Chazwozel said:
NYC is only the epicenter of the U.S. Eastcoast. Flame Fail.

Being in the epicenter of the East Coast doesn't make you prom king. It just means you're the king of suck.[/QUOTE]

Oh what do you know? Go eat some cheese and cheer on your stupid team that got pummeled by their ex-quarterback that's 100x better now that he has talent playing along side him and a fan base that doesn't have the IQ of placid Hindu cows.

Stick that in your corn bob and smoke it.

Nov 2, 2009#139

Krisken

Chazwozel;288154][quote=Krisken;288148][quote=Chazwozel said:
NYC is only the epicenter of the U.S. Eastcoast. Flame Fail.

Being in the epicenter of the East Coast doesn't make you prom king. It just means you're the king of suck.[/quote]

Oh what do you know? Go eat some cheese and cheer on your stupid team that got pummeled by their ex-quarterback that's 100x better now that he has talent playing along side him and a fan base that doesn't have the IQ of placid Hindu cows.

Stick that in your corn bob and smoke it.

[/QUOTE]
I imagine all that rage is due to not being able to buy your way out of always having a crappy team due to salary caps, unlike baseball.

Nov 2, 2009#140

makare

Chazwozel;288113][quote=makare1;288082][quote=Chazwozel;288075][quote=makare1 said:
I haven't led anyone. Chili beans are awesome. Chaz has no taste for flavor or texture.

We should all cry for him.

South Dakota is the true land of steaks.

Nov 2, 2009#141

Chazwozel

Krisken;288161][quote=Chazwozel;288154][quote=Krisken;288148][quote=Chazwozel said:
NYC is only the epicenter of the U.S. Eastcoast. Flame Fail.

[/QUOTE]
I imagine all that rage is due to not being able to buy your way out of always having a crappy team due to salary caps, unlike baseball.[/QUOTE]

I'm a Steelers fan. We won the superbowl. But fyi the Giants won the superbowl in 2008 for the 2007 season.

Nov 2, 2009#142

Krisken

Chazwozel;288168][quote=Krisken;288161][quote=Chazwozel;288154][quote=Krisken;288148][quote=Chazwozel said:
NYC is only the epicenter of the U.S. Eastcoast. Flame Fail.

[/quote]
I imagine all that rage is due to not being able to buy your way out of always having a crappy team due to salary caps, unlike baseball.[/quote]

I'm a Steelers fan. We won the superbowl. But fyi the Giants won the superbowl in 2008 for the 2007 season.[/quote]
I was thinking of the Jets. But ok.

(also wonders how a place with almost no fucking cows can have "The most awesomest steak evar!)

Nov 2, 2009#143

Chazwozel

makare1;288164][quote=Chazwozel;288113][quote=makare1;288082][quote=Chazwozel;288075][quote=makare1 said:
I haven't led anyone. Chili beans are awesome. Chaz has no taste for flavor or texture.

We should all cry for him.

South Dakota is the true land of steaks.

Nov 2, 2009#144

Chazwozel

mr_thehun said:
man the only thing better then coke off a hookers naval is steak off a hookers navel.

Only if it's well done and snorted.

Nov 2, 2009#145

Rob King

I just need to throw it in there that I freaking love tags. 'meatbaww' had me laughing until my balls hurt.

Nov 2, 2009#146

Espy

Chazwozel;288173][quote=makare1;288164][quote=Chazwozel;288113][quote=makare1;288082][quote=Chazwozel;288075][quote=makare1 said:
I haven't led anyone. Chili beans are awesome. Chaz has no taste for flavor or texture.

We should all cry for him.

South Dakota is the true land of steaks.

Nov 2, 2009#147

Rob King

Espy said:
Let's chill a little here people. It's steak. No need to go down the nasty road.

Only if there are no goddamn beans!

Oh wait. I thought you said Chili ...

Nov 2, 2009#148

Dave

Only here could a thread about steak turn into a meatbaww thread complete with flames to cook it.

Nov 2, 2009#149

Espy

Dave said:
Only here could a thread about steak turn into a meatbaww thread complete with flames to cook it.

STEAKS: Why have we never fought about this before?

Nov 2, 2009#150

Allen, who is Quiet

Dave said:
Only here could a thread about steak turn into a meatbaww thread complete with flames to cook it.

well done halforum

Nov 2, 2009#151

Armadillo

Chazwozel said:
Oh what do you know? Go eat some cheese and cheer on your stupid team that got pummeled by their ex-quarterback that's 100x better now that he has talent playing along side him and a fan base that doesn't have the IQ of placid Hindu cows.

Stick that in your corn bob and smoke it.

*high five*

SKOL VIKINGS!!!

Nov 3, 2009#152

Silvanesti

FUCK YOU ALL MY STEAK IS BETTER

Nov 3, 2009#153

Cajungal

This thread reminds me of that Seuss book where two sides went to war because one liked their butter on the bottom of the bread and the other liked their butter on top.

Nov 3, 2009#154

Tinwhistler

I bet you're a Plain-Belly Sneetch

Harumph!

Nov 3, 2009#155

The Lovely Boehner

Allen said:
Only here could a thread about steak turn into a meatbaww thread complete with flames to cook it.

well done halforum[/QUOTE]

NO, MEDIUM RARE :boxing: :tina:

Nov 3, 2009#156

Covar

This is the most epic thread I've ever started.

Nov 3, 2009#157

ThatGrinningIdiot!

Yo, Chaz dawg. Why you gotta be hatin' on the Natives man? :sad:

Nov 3, 2009#158

Math242

Chazwozel said:
I think your problem is that you spend too much time eating steak and less time getting laid.

you owe me a keyboard dude

Nov 3, 2009#159

North_Ranger

Wow... Haven't seen this much battle and carnage over a piece of meat since thirty seconds after the Nymphomaniacs Anonymous retreat at the nearest truck stop.

Nov 3, 2009#160

Cajungal

Nov 3, 2009#161

Covar

Perfection:

Dog Food:

Nov 3, 2009#162

Vytamindi

Covar said:
Perfection:

OMG :drool:

Nov 3, 2009#163

Denbrought

Vytamindi;288798][quote=Covar said:
Perfection:

OMG :drool:[/QUOTE]
T_T Can't wait to get back home and be able to eat stuff like that.

Nov 3, 2009#164

Dave

Somewhere in between is where I like it.

Nov 3, 2009#165

The Lovely Boehner

I'm so fucking hungry. You asshole.

Nov 3, 2009#166

Krisken

Covar said:
Perfection:

Dammit, that looks good.

Covar said:
Dog Food:

That looks like Pondarosa (or as my dad called it, the McDonalds of steak houses).

Nov 3, 2009#167

Chazwozel

Because he didn't take the most appealing picture he could find of a medium steak and the shittest of a well done steak... idiots.

unbiased picture. Mmm mmm looks like it's pissin blood. It's just as unappealing to look at as the well done picture.

This is generally what my steak will look like:

Fucking morons don't even know what's good.

Nov 3, 2009#168

Covar

I just took the first picture when I entered "medium rare" into google image search, and the first result for "well done steak" that showed the interior.

Nov 3, 2009#169

Chazwozel

delicious. looks like brains mixed with vomit.

yummy. I always wondered what a dog's anus would look like inside out.

I think medium well is a safe choice when at a restaurant cause half the time they can't cook a well done steak to save themselves, but medium to rare...whatever floats your boat.

Nov 3, 2009#170

drawn_inward

This thread has done nothing but make me hungry.

Nov 3, 2009#171

Krisken

Chaz, those steaks look like they were cut by someone with a spork. There is no way that was cut with a knife.

Nov 3, 2009#172

Silver Jelly

Impure Vyxen said:
I'm a "well done" kinda person.

I'll have the first four ones. Like, right now. GIMME!!

Nov 3, 2009#173

DarkAudit

There are 8,675,309 ways to cook a steak. All of them are good. Telling a Man how to cook a steak is like telling him how to make love to his wife. Among Real Men such things are just not done.

Nov 3, 2009#174

Frankie Williamson

Chazwozel said:
delicious. looks like brains mixed with vomit.

yummy. I always wondered what a dog's anus would look like inside out.

I think medium well is a safe choice when at a restaurant cause half the time they can't cook a well done steak to save themselves, but medium to rare...whatever floats your boat.

I would eat the fucking shit out of both of those.

Annnnnnnnnnnd, I think since I get my ovah-time cheque from October tomorrow, I'ma take the rookie with me to get some prime rib tonight, super rare.

Nov 3, 2009#175

Allen, who is Quiet

since this has been such a pissing contest, I can only assume that the loudest arguers in this thread feel the best steak is the one covered in pee

Nov 3, 2009#176

Silver Jelly

Allen said:
since this has been such a pissing contest, I can only assume that the loudest arguers in this thread feel the best steak is the one covered in pee

"Urinate My Meat"

Nov 3, 2009#177

Allen, who is Quiet

that's an acidic marinade for you

Nov 3, 2009#178

Silver Jelly

Forget Steak Sauce and enjoy these flavourful natural juices.

Nov 3, 2009#179

Allen, who is Quiet

plus, if you're backed up, you may be able to shoot the steak with enough force to tenderize even the roughest cuts of meat

Nov 3, 2009#180

Silver Jelly

Salty?

Nov 3, 2009#181

Rubicon

I prefer well done. Not burn, but not pink/red either. Mainly as a reason of safety. Yes, supposedly if you cook it for X time at Y heat, it kills off any bacteria, but I'm so used to a well done steak, I really don't want it any other way.

No steak sauce preferably, just by itself with a baked potato and salad is awesome. Preferably Filet Mignon since its pure meat, no fat, no bones to deal with, usually very tender.

Nov 3, 2009#182

Allen, who is Quiet

if you like steak, urine for a treat

Nov 3, 2009#183

Tinwhistler

For everyone who thinks there's a huge pissing match going on in here, I have been reading it as tongue-in-cheek poking fun, like people do from time to time. I don't think most people in here are taking this very seriously.

Could be wrong though.

Nov 3, 2009#184

North_Ranger

Well, referring a steak as... ahem... canine anus went beyond the line, if you ask me.

Oh, and just so y'all know... Play nice.

Nov 3, 2009#185

Chazwozel

Tinwhistler said:
For everyone who thinks there's a huge pissing match going on in here, I have been reading it as tongue-in-cheek poking fun, like people do from time to time. I don't think most people in here are taking this very seriously.

Could be wrong though.

I was until the 'you eat pure shit' comment.

Nov 3, 2009#186

SpecialKO

If I'm selecting the meat myself and cooking it myself, I go for rare, but I ask for medium in restaurants.

Nov 3, 2009#187

Bubble181

Impure Vyxen;288878][quote=Chazwozel said:
delicious. looks like brains mixed with vomit.

[/QUOTE]

...I like steak any way you make it, but this looks like red cabbage instead of meat. WTF?

Also, I do sincerely hope no-one is taking this thread serious :-P

Nov 3, 2009#188

Armadillo

Bubble181;289061][quote=Impure Vyxen;288878][quote=Chazwozel said:
delicious. looks like brains mixed with vomit.

[/QUOTE]

...I like steak any way you make it, but this looks like red cabbage instead of meat. WTF?

Also, I do sincerely hope no-one is taking this thread serious :-P[/QUOTE]

Serious as a heart attack caused by chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing well-done steak.

Nov 3, 2009#189

Bubble181

Armadillo said:
Also, I do sincerely hope no-one is taking this thread serious :-P

Serious as a heart attack caused by chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing well-done steak.[/QUOTE]

I dunno about you, but I tend to need to chew bloody raw meat more than some nice perfect pink-baked steak.

Nov 3, 2009#190

Rob King

mr_thehun said:
Man, all I want for lunch is some steak. Instead I get Baozi.... (Chinese meaty buns)

See ... whenever I'm away from my 'own' food, I always look forward to going home, having a meal of said food, while what I was eating elsewhere becomes great dinner conversation.

i.e. Coming back to Newfoundland after 3 months in North Carolina, and having the most incredible breakfast known to man: toutons (pan-fried bread dough). While eating toutons with my family, I told them all about having biscuits and gravy every morning in the south. That said, I had toutons the other morning, but in recent days all I can think about is getting some biscuits and gravy in me.

That, and despite getting homesick for certain meals sometimes, I like most anything.

Nov 3, 2009#191

Armadillo

Rob King;289104][quote=mr_thehun said:
Man, all I want for lunch is some steak. Instead I get Baozi.... (Chinese meaty buns)

Nov 3, 2009#192

rabbitgod

Rob King;289104][quote=mr_thehun said:
Man, all I want for lunch is some steak. Instead I get Baozi.... (Chinese meaty buns)

Nov 3, 2009#193

Rob King

Toutons are actually really easy. Make dough as if you were going to bake bread, but instead of baking it, form it into pancake-sized discs of dough, and fry it in a pan over med-low heat.

The 'proper' way to do it is to use bacon grease to lubricate the pan. It's a terrific excuse to fry bacon as well, but sometimes when I don't have bacon I just use butter. Works well enough.

Serve with molasses. Some eat it with syrup, and the only reason I can imagine for this is because they don't regularly have molasses laying around. But in my house growing up, there was always molasses in bountiful supply, so that's what we used.

Nov 3, 2009#194

Vytamindi

All that pink makes me want to lick pussy.

I don't know why...

Nov 4, 2009#195

Armadillo

Vytamindi said:
All that pink makes me want to lick pussy.

I don't know why...

We all knew it was going there, and none of us stopped it.

And for that, we give thanks.

Nov 4, 2009#196

Denbrought

Armadillo;289409][quote=Vytamindi said:
All that pink makes me want to lick pussy.

I don't know why...

We all knew it was going there, and none of us stopped it.

And for that, we give thanks.[/QUOTE]

So Say We All.

Nov 4, 2009#197

North_Ranger

Fresh.

Nov 4, 2009#198

Silver Jelly

No urine, please.

Nov 4, 2009#199

Vytamindi

Speaking of vagina and raw meat...

NSFW, maybe, but it's just a porkchop!

Nov 4, 2009#200

The Lovely Boehner

well, I have figured out why I like my steaks pink now

Nov 4, 2009#201

Laurelai

Speaking of food porn, I love mussels. I get the (internal) giggles though every time I eat them....

Nov 4, 2009#202

Vytamindi

Yonic food porn is the best!

Nov 4, 2009#203

Chazwozel

Laurelai said:
Speaking of food porn, I love mussels. I get the (internal) giggles though every time I eat them....

I love going out to eat with my Jewish friends and ordering raw oysters. The sheer look of disgust they give me when I suck a few down with Tabasco sauce and squirt of lemon makes them taste all the more delicious. Yes, Morgoth, I'm talking about you. (delurk now bitch!)

Nov 4, 2009#204

Jake

Mmm... oysters from the Jersey shore. :puke:

Nov 4, 2009#205

Chazwozel

Jake said:
Mmm... oysters from the Jersey shore.

No way man. Chesapeake Bay...

Nov 4, 2009#206

Jake

Chazwozel;289587][quote=Jake said:
Mmm... oysters from the Jersey shore.

No way man. Chesapeake Bay...

Nov 4, 2009#207

Morgoth

Chazwozel;289545][quote=Laurelai said:
Speaking of food porn, I love mussels. I get the (internal) giggles though every time I eat them....

Nov 4, 2009#208

North_Ranger

I've never gotten the idea of eating snails and slugs and oysters. For some reason the squemish little wimp in me just dislikes the idea of eating something like that...

Did try snails in garlic and butter sauce once. The sauce was good

Nov 4, 2009#209

Jake

Morgoth said:
You're not of the chosen people for a reason. Cock.

Is that a foreskin joke?

Nov 4, 2009#210

Morgoth

Jake;289650][quote=Morgoth said:
You're not of the chosen people for a reason. Cock.

Is that a foreskin joke?[/QUOTE]

Ha!

Nov 4, 2009#211

Chazwozel

Morgoth;289654][quote=Jake;289650][quote=Morgoth said:
You're not of the chosen people for a reason. Cock.

Is that a foreskin joke?[/QUOTE]

Ha![/QUOTE]

You can keep your chosen, hokey religion with its lightsabers and mind tricks. I'll enjoy my shellfish and pork thank you very much!

Nov 4, 2009#212

Silvanesti

Chazwozel;289545][quote=Laurelai said:
Speaking of food porn, I love mussels. I get the (internal) giggles though every time I eat them....

Nov 4, 2009#213

Tinwhistler

Chazwozel said:
You can keep your chosen, hokey religion with its lightsabers and mind tricks. I'll enjoy my shellfish and pork thank you very much!

Priest and a Rabbi are sitting on a bench waiting for a bus, engaged in theological discussion.

At one point, the priest asks the rabbi if he's ever broken from his faith and had pork.

"Yes, yes," The rabbi admitted. "I've eaten bacon once, just to see what all the fuss was about."

"Pretty good, huh?" the priest asked, and the rabbi had to admit that it was.

"So, let me ask you something in return," the rabbi countered. "Have you ever broken your vow of celibacy? Have you ever been with a woman?"

"Sadly, yes," the priest answered. "I am ashamed to admit that when I was younger, I fell victim to my carnal nature and had sex with one of my parishioners."

The Rabbi nodded wisely. "Better than pork, isn't it?" the rabbi asked.

Nov 4, 2009#214

Armadillo

Jake;289633][quote=Chazwozel;289587][quote=Jake said:
Mmm... oysters from the Jersey shore.

No way man. Chesapeake Bay...

[/QUOTE]
I try to enjoy east coast oysters, but the ones you get off the Oregon coast (the inlaws retired there) have completely spoiled me. Getting a dozen of those is not an appetizer, it is an undertaking.

I also found it funny that they have oysters the size of your face, but teeny tiny little shrimp. And they put crab on top of steak (Bam! Full circle!).[/QUOTE]

Wait, wait...the thread circling isn't complete unless the crabsteak was served on a vagina and you couldn't use your hands to eat it.

Now THAT'S a restaurant I'd like to see!!!

Nov 4, 2009#215

Jake

Armadillo said:
crabsteak was served on a vagina

Also known as Shego's surf and turf.

Nov 4, 2009#216

Armadillo

Jake;289925][quote=Armadillo said:
crabsteak was served on a vagina

Also known as Shego's surf and turf.[/QUOTE]

Pardon me, I must go wring the Mt. Dew out of my keyboard.

Nov 4, 2009#217

Zonker

Dave;287873][quote=Chazwozel;287858][quote=Dave said:
Shouldn't that be "shudder"?

Yes it should be.

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