Marinate My Meat
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Chazwozel
I'm not offended. Why would I be offended for being mocked because I don't eat like a dog?
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That's fine, you go on and enjoy your tapeworms.[/QUOTE]
E. coli, and as I said earlier, it lives on the surface. Cook the surface, and you'll be just fine.
Of course, this assumes proper handling through the slaughter, cutting, holding, and preparation steps, but if someone else fucks up your meat, nothing short of incineration will help you out.
Chaz, have you ever HAD steak less than medium well?
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Salt=flavor. Unsalted steak tastes like cardboard. Now, if your food tastes like salt, then it's oversalted. If it tastes like FOOD, then it's properly seasoned (salt and pepper.)[/QUOTE]
I've had steak that's been cooked from rare to well done. My opinion is based off this. I just don't like the rubbery, flimsy texture associated with rare to medium rare steaks. I also like my food hot, not lukewarm or cold in the center. If I wanted to eat like a caveman, I'd stalk farms and kill cows with a spear while feasting right there on the spot. Like I said, I'm not offended in the least bit; I always enjoy watching people get snobby over their undercooked food.
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Chazwozel
[/QUOTE]No no, you go ahead and enjoy:
You realize that is cooked well done right?
Anywho, my london broil adventure. So Friday night over half my friends canceled on me at the last minute, so I just waited until Saturday to cook. I only made one, marinated it in the morning with some balsamic vinegar, pomegranate juice, light brown sugar, olive oil, and rosemary. Broiled it for 8 minutes a side, and it came out good, right between medium and medium rare. While the meat was resting I took the marinade, poured it into a pan on medium high heat and began making sauce. It only made about a quarter cup but you didn't really need all that much so it worked out nicely. sweet, but with a bit of tang.
The second london broil is still marinating as we speak, I'm going to make it up tomorrow night, hopefully it comes as good.
You realize that is cooked well done right?No no, you go ahead and enjoy:
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Well done steak is MUCH closer to dog food than a good Medium Rare.
Dave
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I always order Medium. Less issues that way. If the cooks are good then the steak is just as I like it - brown with a hint of pink on the inside (insert your own jokes here). If the cooks are not that good and over- or under-cook it then it's still okay as I like steak both medium rare and medium well.
But I don't get steak very often as I am not a wealthy individual. So when I eat steak it's like putting God in my mouth. Which is not as gay as it sounds. God isn't a mousy little mama's boy! God is BUTCH!
But I don't get steak very often as I am not a wealthy individual. So when I eat steak it's like putting God in my mouth. Which is not as gay as it sounds. God isn't a mousy little mama's boy! God is BUTCH!
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Chazwozel
[/QUOTE]No no, you go ahead and enjoy:
You realize that is cooked well done right?
Anywho, my london broil adventure. So Friday night over half my friends canceled on me at the last minute, so I just waited until Saturday to cook. I only made one, marinated it in the morning with some balsamic vinegar, pomegranate juice, light brown sugar, olive oil, and rosemary. Broiled it for 8 minutes a side, and it came out good, right between medium and medium rare. While the meat was resting I took the marinade, poured it into a pan on medium high heat and began making sauce. It only made about a quarter cup but you didn't really need all that much so it worked out nicely. sweet, but with a bit of tang.
The second london broil is still marinating as we speak, I'm going to make it up tomorrow night, hopefully it comes as good.[/QUOTE]
Heh, well I feed my dogs raw steak tips after making my cuts.
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makare
You said I've never had well prepared well done steak but I have. You however must not have had good rare steak if it was cold.
Go ahead and keep eating ruined steak, more awesome steak for the rest of us.
Go ahead and keep eating ruined steak, more awesome steak for the rest of us.
That's one of the awesome thing about having cattle ranchers for friends and family. We have an abundance of steak. Last time I was home I had steak for supper every night and this weekend when I am home I shall have steak again.. Woohoo!
Your dogs are literally eating better than you, like not that haw haw figure of speech. Heh.
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Chazwozel
So is it fun to group hunt and scream a victory yell while feasting on a fallen cow like Savannah lions?
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Your dogs are literally eating better than you, like not that haw haw figure of speech. Heh.[/QUOTE]
While we're at it, let's consume raw eggs and chicken and be smug about it.
Dave
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So is it fun to group hunt and scream a victory yell while feasting on a fallen cow like Savannah lions?[/QUOTE]
Ever tried it?
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Chazwozel
So is it fun to group hunt and scream a victory yell while feasting on a fallen cow like Savannah lions?[/QUOTE]
Ever tried it?[/QUOTE]
No, but now I actually want to. :-/
Regardless of what your tastes are. I stick to my guns. It takes more skill to grill up a good well done steak. So if you consider cooked food to be 'ruined', more power to you.
http://bbq.about.com/od/steaks/ss/aa101606a_6.htm
I like steak, but I don't like eating rawish meat. Sorry.
A couple points:
1) If your red- or pink-centered steak is 'rubbery' textured, you have a really shitty cut of meat there. Cooking it well done might help hide the poor quality of the meat, but don't blame the cooking method for what is clearly an inferior cut of meat.
2) Raw eggs have featured in many foods, such as egg nog and mayonnaise. However, due to salmonella fears, raw chicken and eggs are much less safe to eat these days than rare beef. The USDA considers 145 a proper safe temperature for Beef, veal, and lamb steaks, roasts, and chops. Chicken, on the other hand, should be cooked to 165 to kill salmonella.
If your steak is at room temperature when you cook it (as it should be) the internal temperature will not be cold, and you can cook a medium or medium rare steak that is cooked through to the proper minimum temperature, and that is not cold or unpleasant in the center. A truly well-cooked medium-rare steak should melt in your mouth.
youtube vid of Gordon Ramsey making a steak (sorry, embedding is disabled)
1) If your red- or pink-centered steak is 'rubbery' textured, you have a really shitty cut of meat there. Cooking it well done might help hide the poor quality of the meat, but don't blame the cooking method for what is clearly an inferior cut of meat.
2) Raw eggs have featured in many foods, such as egg nog and mayonnaise. However, due to salmonella fears, raw chicken and eggs are much less safe to eat these days than rare beef. The USDA considers 145 a proper safe temperature for Beef, veal, and lamb steaks, roasts, and chops. Chicken, on the other hand, should be cooked to 165 to kill salmonella.
If your steak is at room temperature when you cook it (as it should be) the internal temperature will not be cold, and you can cook a medium or medium rare steak that is cooked through to the proper minimum temperature, and that is not cold or unpleasant in the center. A truly well-cooked medium-rare steak should melt in your mouth.
youtube vid of Gordon Ramsey making a steak (sorry, embedding is disabled)
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Chazwozel
Same goes for a well done Delmonico cut steak. I've never grilled up a well done steak that doesn't fall apart in your mouth, and I let the edges slightly char for a good BBQ off the grill flavor.
I whole hearty agree, rubber steak tastes like shit. Which is why I question the quality of preparedness other people have had. I'll order medium-well or medium-rare if I trust that the cook doesn't know how to cook steak properly because anyone can throw a slab of meat on the grill and sear the thing for 8 minutes on each side.
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I used to drink a glass of raw eggs back when I played football in highschool, never got sick, but man that was disgusting. Egg nog is the grossest thing in the world and mayonnaise is a close second. The only thing mayo is good for is potato salad and salad dressing. Not all raw food is bad though, I appreciate the effort and skill it takes to prepare good sushi.
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Yeah, I've been to one of Ramsey's restaurants in New York. His menu is good, but it's not as outstanding as he makes it out to be.
we're old Chaz. A lot more chickens have salmonella than did back when we were kids.
That said, your argument basically boils down to "I don't like medium steak, egg nog, or mayonnaise."
Yah, personal preferences FTW.
BTW..you do know that the charred bits you like so much are carcinogenic, right?
That said, your argument basically boils down to "I don't like medium steak, egg nog, or mayonnaise."
Yah, personal preferences FTW.
BTW..you do know that the charred bits you like so much are carcinogenic, right?
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Chazwozel
I'm not sure about that. I think it's more that we didn't give a crap. Typhoid fever has always been around. If I was playing sports as intensely as I used to I'd still rather drink raw egg than use that protein whey chemical shit.
Anything has the potential to be a carcinogen. Wood dust is a carcinogen. Sunlight is too. I'm very strongly of the science camp that favors genetics over environment as being the bigger factor for cancer development. That is though, I wouldn't expect someone exposed to strong x-rays everyday to not come down with some kind of crippling cancer later in life. It's not like I eat charred ends exclusively as my diet.
I'm not sure about that. I think it's more that we didn't give a crap. Typhoid fever has always been around. If I was playing sports as intensely as I used to I'd still rather drink raw egg than use that protein whey chemical shit.
Anything has the potential to be a carcinogen. Wood dust is a carcinogen. Sunlight is too. I'm very strongly of the science camp that favors genetics over environment as being the bigger factor for cancer development. That is though, I wouldn't expect someone exposed to strong x-rays everyday to not come down with some kind of crippling cancer later in life. It's not like I eat charred ends exclusively as my diet.[/QUOTE]
wait..did you just equate eating charred steak to be equivalent to ingesting wood dust?
if eating raw eggs is good enough for Rocky it's good enough for me
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Chazwozel
I'm not sure about that. I think it's more that we didn't give a crap. Typhoid fever has always been around. If I was playing sports as intensely as I used to I'd still rather drink raw egg than use that protein whey chemical shit.
Anything has the potential to be a carcinogen. Wood dust is a carcinogen. Sunlight is too. I'm very strongly of the science camp that favors genetics over environment as being the bigger factor for cancer development. That is though, I wouldn't expect someone exposed to strong x-rays everyday to not come down with some kind of crippling cancer later in life. It's not like I eat charred ends exclusively as my diet.[/QUOTE]
wait..did you just equate eating charred steak to be equivalent to ingesting wood dust?
[/QUOTE]Or getting a tan. Smartass ;-)
Dave
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Tricky noses?
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Chazwozel
"See you for dinner, friend"
And here's one of Chaz's famous charts of fun filled science facts. This is the life cycle of T. solium.
Thar be reasons why cooking meat thoroughly be good for you.
"See you for dinner, friend"
And here's one of Chaz's famous charts of fun filled science facts. This is the life cycle of T. solium.
Thar be reasons why cooking meat thoroughly be good for you.[/QUOTE]
It's also been 20 years since there has been a case in Alberta.
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Armadillo
Did you miss my post about the eradication of Tricky Noses on the last page? SHEESH!!!
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Yes you do. You eat well-done steak.
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Chazwozel
I have steak maybe five or six times a year. It's not exactly my most favorite food in the whole wide world.Did you miss my post about the eradication of Tricky Noses on the last page? SHEESH!!!
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Yes you do. You eat well-done steak.
I'm not sure I could eat this even 5 or 6 times a year.
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Chibibar
mmmmmmmmmmm lunch!
I'm not sure I could eat this even 5 or 6 times a year.
That is just downright dangerous. I hope whoever that place belongs to has good insurance for when he loses a finger.
I'm not sure I could eat this even 5 or 6 times a year.
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Chazwozel
har har laugh it up old man; you and your weekly steak eating.
I'm not sure I could eat this even 5 or 6 times a year.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and bet that your rare-steak eaters also put beans in your chili. <shutter>
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