Win. Epic, epic win.figmentPez said:
someones been reading 4chan todayDenbrought said:
Only, the "Given a=b" part is a false, since it's impossible for a to equal b. Hence, while the algebra is correct, the initial assumption is incorrect.Allen said:
It's a pity the math is terrible.
2a=a is perfectly valid if a=0.Rasputin said:Only, the "Given a=b" part is a false, since it's impossible for a to equal b. Hence, while the algebra is correct, the initial assumption is incorrect.Allen said:
It's a pity the math is terrible.
You just divided by WHAT?!!Tinwhistler said:2a=a is perfectly valid if a=0.
therefore, it's obvious that dividing both sides by a (0) would produce a nonsensical result.
They also divide by zero when they divide to remove (a-b) since a-b=0Tinwhistler said:2a=a is perfectly valid if a=0.Rasputin said:Only, the "Given a=b" part is a false, since it's impossible for a to equal b. Hence, while the algebra is correct, the initial assumption is incorrect.Allen said:[bad math]
It's a pity the math is terrible.
therefore, it's obvious that dividing both sides by a (0) would produce a nonsensical result.
They also divide by zero when they divide to remove (a-b) since a-b=0[/quote:bxsoxely]Allen said:2a=a is perfectly valid if a=0.Tinwhistler said:Only, the "Given a=b" part is a false, since it's impossible for a to equal b. Hence, while the algebra is correct, the initial assumption is incorrect.Rasputin said:[quote="Allen, who is Quiet":bxsoxely][bad math]
It's a pity the math is terrible.
therefore, it's obvious that dividing both sides by a (0) would produce a nonsensical result.
Also, of course, it isn't calculus, it's algebra.Allen said:
It's a pity the math is terrible.
I don't make them, I just post them.Dieb said:Also, of course, it isn't calculus, it's algebra.Allen said:It's a pity the math is terrible.
a=b is a perfectly valid assumption. Variables can be equal to each other.Rasputin said:I still stand by my previous post... That the assumption that a=b is invalid. As previously said, although it is possible at the end, a has to not be 0 in order to get to that point, therefore a=0 is not a viable answer.
The mathematicians on this forum SHOULD agree with me on this one... :|
a^2+b^2=c^2 in a right triangleMav said:less math more posters?
as allen who is quiet said the problem isn't that a=b, which is perfectly valid. the problem is that for any value of a and b you will have to divide by zero and then...Rasputin said:I still stand by my previous post... That the assumption that a=b is invalid. As previously said, although it is possible at the end, a has to not be 0 in order to get to that point, therefore a=0 is not a viable answer.
The mathematicians on this forum SHOULD agree with me on this one... :|
No, I'd rather not get too cozy or sexy with math. I want more posters!Allen said:=2cosy-secy
They also divide by zero when they divide to remove (a-b) since a-b=0[/quote:1mkfgykj]Allen said:2a=a is perfectly valid if a=0.Tinwhistler said:Only, the "Given a=b" part is a false, since it's impossible for a to equal b. Hence, while the algebra is correct, the initial assumption is incorrect.Rasputin said:[quote="Allen, who is Quiet":1mkfgykj][bad math]
It's a pity the math is terrible.
therefore, it's obvious that dividing both sides by a (0) would produce a nonsensical result.
is this guy shirtless on a plane or bus? where is he leaving? Arkansas? Hey guy just make yourself comfortable, there's probably room to put your trans am up on cinderblocks in the backfigmentPez said:New ones!
The problem isn't that they can't be equal. I'm saying that they ASSUME IN THE BEGINNING BEFORE THEY EVEN START that a=b AND IS TRUE. Through the rest of the problem, we know that a=b IS NOT true, and the assumption is therefore incorrect from the very start.Allen said:a=b is a perfectly valid assumption. Variables can be equal to each other.Rasputin said:I still stand by my previous post... That the assumption that a=b is invalid. As previously said, although it is possible at the end, a has to not be 0 in order to get to that point, therefore a=0 is not a viable answer.
The mathematicians on this forum SHOULD agree with me on this one... :|
Math is all kinds of wack.Rasputin said:The problem isn't that they can't be equal. I'm saying that they ASSUME IN THE BEGINNING BEFORE THEY EVEN START that a=b AND IS TRUE. Through the rest of the problem, we know that a=b IS NOT true, and the assumption is therefore incorrect from the very start.Allen said:a=b is a perfectly valid assumption. Variables can be equal to each other.Rasputin said:I still stand by my previous post... That the assumption that a=b is invalid. As previously said, although it is possible at the end, a has to not be 0 in order to get to that point, therefore a=0 is not a viable answer.
The mathematicians on this forum SHOULD agree with me on this one... :|
It is an invalid assumption, since the assumption is that it is TRUE, when it is, in fact, FALSE.
GasBandit said:Math is all kinds of wack.Rasputin said:The problem isn't that they can't be equal. I'm saying that they ASSUME IN THE BEGINNING BEFORE THEY EVEN START that a=b AND IS TRUE. Through the rest of the problem, we know that a=b IS NOT true, and the assumption is therefore incorrect from the very start.Allen said:a=b is a perfectly valid assumption. Variables can be equal to each other.Rasputin said:I still stand by my previous post... That the assumption that a=b is invalid. As previously said, although it is possible at the end, a has to not be 0 in order to get to that point, therefore a=0 is not a viable answer.
The mathematicians on this forum SHOULD agree with me on this one... :|
It is an invalid assumption, since the assumption is that it is TRUE, when it is, in fact, FALSE.
x = 0.99999...
10x = 9.99999....
=> 9x = 9 (subtracting 1x from both sides of the equation)
=> x = 1
Oh, I'm sure you'll have nits to pick there, so let's do it this way...
1/3=0.333...
(multiply both sides by 3)
3/3=0.999...
3/3=1
1=0.999...
MAAAAJIIIIC!
a can still be equal to b throughout the problem. The only thing wrong is they divide by 0 and get 1=2. a=b is still valid. If there's a problem in one step (in this case, from 3 to 4), that doesn't mean earlier steps are incorrect.Rasputin said:The problem isn't that they can't be equal. I'm saying that they ASSUME IN THE BEGINNING BEFORE THEY EVEN START that a=b AND IS TRUE. Through the rest of the problem, we know that a=b IS NOT true, and the assumption is therefore incorrect from the very start.
It is an invalid assumption, since the assumption is that it is TRUE, when it is, in fact, FALSE.
EDIT:
While a can equal b in OTHER examples, it cannot in THIS example, which is what the whole argument is about.
They all are just antsy ever since 7 8 9.ElJuski said:Okay, I'm banning anyone who makes posts another math poster that gets all the number dorks in a tizzy -_-. Where's the FUNNY, DAMNIT