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Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

ThatNickGuy said:
I tried to get into the show. Even managed to push myself through all of Season 1. It's just...too weird for me. Like a lot of it is being weird for weird's sake. I can sort of see why people like it, but I can't understand why it's become such a huge phenomenon among nerd culture.
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Because it's more than what you see in season 1. The weirdness becomes just the style to the show, so when an episode introduces people who are little houses, you just roll with it because the meat is the story they're telling in each of those episodes. That's not to say there aren't sometimes random, pointless episodes here and there, like with most episodic TV shows, but there is way, way more than just weirdness if you keep going.

I believe Netflix will have seasons 2, 3, and 4 sometime in March.

Also, thank you to the people who PM'd me.
 
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Yeah I also tried to watch that show but I just couldn't get into it. None of the characters seemed to be sympathetic and it suffered from a severe case of Adult Writers Trying to Sound Cool. Then I see all these praises and wonder what I'm missing.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Celt Z said:
I've read the creators admitted they didn't really have a plan in mind for the 1st season, so that added to the all-over-the-place weirdness. I didn't get into it until season 2 or 3 when they started to really flesh out the world and it's history. If you're still curious, you might want to give it a shot now that it's a little more focused, although there are still a lot of random episodes. I'm don't always love the weird ones, but the ones that fill out the characters back-stories have been really creative and well-written.
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Some of the random episodes are just clever in their own right, even without much character development, like when Finn and Jake get trapped in that graveyard tournament, or hell, the first Fiona episode. I did not see that ending coming.

Jake is so childish sometimes, and then so wise at other times, depending on what Finn needs to hear.

And sometimes what seems like it's going to be a weird, random episode, like when that portal-hopping creature started stealing important items from different characters, turns into a big character episode. I feel like most of the deeper episodes pretend they're going to be filler episodes in the beginning so they can punch you by surprise.

I mean, damn, I thought 2nd to last episode of season 4 was just going to be silly "let's throw together two characters who don't usually interact." I didn't expect to have tears in my eyes when it cut to the credits.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

That's the thing. I keep seeing all this praise and people going on about it. I think it has some neat ideas, like this quirky fantasy land really being a post-apocalyptic Earth. I just...I see all my fellow nerds going gah-gah about this show and I just can't figure out what it is about the show that everyone loves so much. Zero Esc says to just roll with the weirdness but I can't. The stories are weird, the characters are weird, and even the resolutions are usually weird.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

ThatNickGuy said:
That's the thing. I keep seeing all this praise and people going on about it. I think it has some neat ideas, like this quirky fantasy land really being a post-apocalyptic Earth. I just...I see all my fellow nerds going gah-gah about this show and I just can't figure out what it is about the show that everyone loves so much. Zero Esc says to just roll with the weirdness but I can't. The stories are weird, the characters are weird, and even the resolutions are usually weird.
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What I'm saying is, you stop taking the weirdness as being weird and start seeing it as different aspects of this world. There is a little desensitization going on, but really as it goes on, more of the episodes are about the stories. You could easily dress up some of this stuff as a fairy tale and it would work the same; the weirdness is more style than anything in most cases. I'm praising it and I haven't gotten to what I've been told is the best season so far.

But on the subject of weirdness, have you read your first book? :p

If someone doesn't want to keep at it, I understand that. I almost bailed after the first episode, really, but I chose to keep going and I'm glad I did. But if someone is perplexed as to why it's being praised and people say to keep going--it's because the reason they're praising it is further along. There's no mystery here. I'm certain Adventure Time isn't the first show where it isn't at its peak right off the bat. I'd rather have a show that gets better as it goes, like Breaking Bad, than one that starts awesome and then devolves in its later seasons, like Battlestar Galactica.
 
Celt Z

Celt Z

ThatNickGuy said:
That's the thing. I keep seeing all this praise and people going on about it. I think it has some neat ideas, like this quirky fantasy land really being a post-apocalyptic Earth. I just...I see all my fellow nerds going gah-gah about this show and I just can't figure out what it is about the show that everyone loves so much. Zero Esc says to just roll with the weirdness but I can't. The stories are weird, the characters are weird, and even the resolutions are usually weird.
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It might just not be your cup of tea. I felt the same way about Firefly. Even now when people are praising it, I remember watching it and thinking it was Joss' most mediocre effort. The cast was good, but the universal rules were just too far-fetched to get into.
 
Covar

Covar

ThatNickGuy said:
That's the thing. I keep seeing all this praise and people going on about it. I think it has some neat ideas, like this quirky fantasy land really being a post-apocalyptic Earth. I just...I see all my fellow nerds going gah-gah about this show and I just can't figure out what it is about the show that everyone loves so much. Zero Esc says to just roll with the weirdness but I can't. The stories are weird, the characters are weird, and even the resolutions are usually weird.
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For me it's the weirdness that I love about it. It's probably just not a show for you. I had to just let the show's weirdness wash over me and roll with it. Then I started to see its world's strange consistency.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Maybe you guys are just old. And I know how to test this!



What does @Dave the Ancient think of Adventure Time?[DOUBLEPOST=1425137807,1425137654][/DOUBLEPOST]
GasBandit said:
Throw me in with the others who gave Adventure Time an honest try and couldn't slog through it.
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And yet you went along fine with Kill La Kill.

I can get when someone's vanilla that they have trouble with Adventure Time's weirdness, but you guys are into other weird things. I don't see how Adventure Time crosses the line. Do you guys remember the outer space episodes of Ren & Stimpy? I feel like I lost part of my innocence watching those as a 7-year-old.
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

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ThatNickGuy said:
That's the thing. I keep seeing all this praise and people going on about it. I think it has some neat ideas, like this quirky fantasy land really being a post-apocalyptic Earth. I just...I see all my fellow nerds going gah-gah about this show and I just can't figure out what it is about the show that everyone loves so much. Zero Esc says to just roll with the weirdness but I can't. The stories are weird, the characters are weird, and even the resolutions are usually weird.
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Underneath the weirdness, slowly at first and then more-so as seasons go on, are some hard-hitting metaphors about life. Once the continuity of the show becomes established, if you can just accept the weirdness and stop trying to figure out the world, the characters are used to convey familiar themes. The world doesn't work like ours, but the way characters react is often analogous to reality. It's caricatured, but it's there, and it's often done with more subtlety and nuance than other children's programs. I'm not even sure it can be called a "moral lesson", because it's often more of a demonstration of human behavior, without one clear conclusion, but there are some good examples of friendship, love, loss, infatuation, greed, and many other things.

Adventure Time is kind of like a really hap-hazard D&D group. They start out just playing for the game, with no real direction. There are just wacky encounters, which then play out as the heroes battle their way through. But as the series goes along, the role playing starts to take more importance. The encounters are still bizarre and almost contrived, but the characters start to develop backstory, and the encounters are made to show off the role playing, and not just the game.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Zero Esc said:
What does @Dave the Ancient think of Adventure Time?[DOUBLEPOST=1425137807,1425137654][/DOUBLEPOST]

And yet you went along fine with Kill La Kill.

I can get when someone's vanilla that they have trouble with Adventure Time's weirdness, but you guys are into other weird things. I don't see how Adventure Time crosses the line. Do you guys remember the outer space episodes of Ren & Stimpy? I feel like I lost part of my innocence watching those as a 7-year-old.
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The wierdness wasn't the problem. I don't really know what the problem was. It just... it felt like a chore to watch.
 
Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Its a series that has a great blend of serial storytelling and continuity, and you never know which episode is going to continue on certain plot points and which isn't. And I love how the show just GOES into the crazyness of its world, it doesn't pull some intro "In a place called the land of OOO" crap telling you everything all at once, you learn about it through bits and pieces of future episodes. This and Steven Universe have a similar theme of introducing the world piece by piece, similar to how a child views the world, learning about it organically. What's also cool is that each show can be different , some can be a cerebral experience, some can be pure silly, some can be straight up action,and some can be so hyped up that we can't enjoy it even it is good in its own right(looking at YOU Princess day). Its a show that is master of the curve ball, and you never know WHAT your gonna get. Granted yes, the show really picks up in season 2 but I support it all through-out.
 
filmfanatic

filmfanatic

Yoshimickster said:
Its a series that has a great blend of serial storytelling and continuity, and you never know which episode is going to continue on certain plot points and which isn't. And I love how the show just GOES into the crazyness of its world, it doesn't pull some intro "In a place called the land of OOO" crap telling you everything all at once, you learn about it through bits and pieces of future episodes. This and Steven Universe have a similar theme of introducing the world piece by piece, similar to how a child views the world, learning about it organically. What's also cool is that each show can be different , some can be a cerebral experience, some can be pure silly, some can be straight up action,and some can be so hyped up that we can't enjoy it even it is good in its own right(looking at YOU Princess day). Its a show that is master of the curve ball, and you never know WHAT your gonna get. Granted yes, the show really picks up in season 2 but I support it all through-out.
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Indeed. Some episodes can introduce you to key elements of the major overall conflicts or deepen understandings of characters that had once seem shallow, and some episodes you get James Baxter.
 
Dave

Dave

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I've never watched Adventure Time. Not that I wouldn't try it, it's just never been on when I'm watching.
 
Null

Null

There is basically one thing I like about Adventure Time, and that's AZ Powergirl Cara Nicole's Fiona cosplay.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Thank you to those who sent me advice on where to view Adventure Time, but I don't feel comfortable my comp will be secure with all the stuff being thrown at it from that site.
 
Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

So...their doing two Ghostbusters reboot movies...at the same time? Wow...I thought Blues Brothers 2000 was when Dan Akroyd went crazy but NOPE this is it.
 
CynicismKills

CynicismKills

It sounds like they're trying to make the whole franchise relevant again, founding a production company and such. Granted, Akroyd is a complete nutball now, but it could be interesting to see what he and those other guys try to do with it all.
 
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