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Obama releases Long Form birth certificate

Apr 27, 2011#1

Adammon

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/white-house-releases-long-form-obamas-hawaii-birth-132551272.html

Unfortunately, those convinced that he was neither born in Hawaii nor is a US citizen will not be swayed by further evidence to the contrary.

I am getting a chuckle out of the continued conspiracies of FreeRepublic though. He did exactly what they asked and it's not good enough. Exactly why he shouldn't have done it.

I do have some concerns that he did this too early. It feels like Trump forced his hand which just feels disgusting.

Apr 27, 2011#2

drawn_inward

'Shopped. I've seen a lot of 'shops in my day. I can tell by the pixels.

Apr 27, 2011#3

sixpackshaker

in before...

IT'S A FAKE

Apr 27, 2011#4

Espy

It's embarrassing that he even had to do this.

Apr 27, 2011#5

Hylian

Apr 27, 2011#6

Fun Size

To prove that it was the long form, the White House has released pictures of the document taken next to the President's penis, simultaneously proving also that he is black.

Apr 27, 2011#7

Dave

Fun Size said:
To prove that it was the long form, the White House has released pictures of the document taken next to the President's penis, simultaneously proving also that he is black.

That's why they needed the long form.

Apr 27, 2011#8

Adammon

Hahah, having a great time arguing with birthers on this. Suddenly everyone is a pixel expert!

Apr 27, 2011#9

Espy

Adammon said:
Hahah, having a great time arguing with birthers on this. Suddenly everyone is a pixel expert!

I honestly don't even know how to respond to the people that don't believe this or that didn't believe the first one.
I am truly at a loss.

Apr 27, 2011#10

Tress

He should have known better and not engaged these idiots. At all. Conspiracy nuts will always reject evidence that disproves their crackpot theories.

Apr 27, 2011#11

Krisken

Sometimes I feel like I live in the Simpsons' Springfield.

Apr 27, 2011#12

Adammon

Espy said:
I honestly don't even know how to respond to the people that don't believe this or that didn't believe the first one.
I am truly at a loss.

I apparently "sound like someone enjoying their handiwork" which is apparently birther-speak for I now being part of the conspiracy. Working in the White House, making fake documents. Sounds like a good job to me.

Apr 27, 2011#13

Tress

Fun time from the comments section:

Can you say forged document ?? I know you can !!! There are ( 2 ) videos on youtube one with Barrack saying he was born in Kenya and the other was Michelle saying he was a proud born Kenyan at a black tie function !!

Good job Barry and it only took you 28 months to find {create} it.

Has it occurred to any of you how very easy it is for the US Government to create false documents? Duh? Go back to sleep.

This imposter can have anything made at any time, it only proves just that.

i just saw a video on line where Obama says he was born in Kenya. So i can only assume that one of these is a lie. Based on his books, i would say that this birth certificate is a fake. A video of his speech proclaiming he was born in Kenya, vs a piece of paper and modern technology that can forge anything.
see for yourself

Why requested copies of his original birth certificate ???
Where the *** is the original one ? He is not an american. An american is the one whos born from both american parents on the american land and not on some island from a crook muslim african illegal immigrant.
Both parents must be american born and not alien born in Africa or Russia, or Asia.

In one word: FORGERY!!!! If it were genuine, he surely would have released it FAR EARLIER!!!!

Its not a BIRTH CERTIFICATE its a CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH

Barrack hussein obama, is the first degree cousin of sadam hussein, and osama binladen is also third degree cousin of Sadam Hussein. Now there is no doubt America's President is a TERRORIST....

Obama’s father was born in Kenya, which is confirmed on the document released by the White House today, makes Obama ineligible to become president because he is not a “natural born citizen” of the United States.

“Some of the cases challenging Obama have explained that he was a dual citizen through his father at his birth, and they contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born citizens,” meaning that the document released by the White House today could even lead to proving Obama’s ineligibility.

HA HA HA ! Now the've done it , the stupid Democrats .

Apr 27, 2011#14

Krisken

Internet is made of FAIL. Not really any surprise there.

Apr 27, 2011#15

sixpackshaker

I pray to God that all those quoted posts are trolls...

Apr 27, 2011#16

Chad Sexington

My personal favourite conspiracy theory is the one where they acknowledge this long-form birth certificate is real, but claim the White House deliberately withheld it to make their opponents look crazy.

Apr 27, 2011#17

sixpackshaker

But nobody ever heard of the guy...
Trump

Apr 27, 2011#18

Covar

Chad Sexington said:
My personal favourite conspiracy theory is the one where they acknowledge this long-form birth certificate is real, but claim the White House deliberately withheld it to make their opponents look crazy.

Not a bad strategy really.

Apr 27, 2011#19

Chibibar

Chad Sexington said:
My personal favourite conspiracy theory is the one where they acknowledge this long-form birth certificate is real, but claim the White House deliberately withheld it to make their opponents look crazy.

Heh. Interesting theory.

What surprise me (well not really) that people are THAT stupid to believe that a guy, who ran for senator and now is the President. That NO ONE before ever thought about it? never discover it? oh come on!! it would have been all over tabloid when he was a Senator of Chicago saying that he was illegal alien before THEN!

You would think the GOP wouldn't have hired private investigator or use FBI to find out? bleh.

Apr 27, 2011#20

Covar

That's always bugged me to Chibi. Especially when you have AZ going of and voting on a bill to check (while overboard) the legality of a presidential candidate to be on their ballot. Surely the entire country doesn't operate on a good faith policy when it comes to our elected officials. That would be as crazy as one of the largest blogging networks storing user passwords as plain text on an unencrypted database...

I'm off to research, and fear my search-fu is going to get tangled in birther sites.

Apr 27, 2011#21

LordRendar

America is a cool land,but your Mass Media is fucking crazy.From what I can catch,most of it is fearmongering,half-truths and full lies.
How can any sensible person doubt that their own President isn't an American? Jeez. You need a Birthcertificate (if the application standarts are similar to the ones we have in Germany) to get an Passport,a ID,
Insurance,ect. and in all those years that Obama,lived none of those Agencys asked him once to present that piece of paper? Ofcourse they did! I really dont get those conspiracy nuts.

Apr 27, 2011#22

Adammon

I don't think it's that they doubt he's an American, it's that they don't want him as their President - so they're going to try and find ways to remove him. Not very different from "Selected not Elected" President Bush and Citizens Arrests on Cheney, for example.

Apr 27, 2011#23

Chad Sexington

Well... People who are American citizens but born outside of America can still get passports, insurances, ID, etc... I'm not supporting the Birthers by ANY stretch, but just by virtue of having those things, does not prove a birth certificate is an American one, just that one is a citizen. I again stress that none of this means I doubt or ever doubted his American...ness.

Apr 27, 2011#24

Tress

And there's a reason that a (half) black man named Barack Hussein Obama is the first president to have this become an issue. I am absolutely certain a large part of this birther stupidity is fueled by good ol' fashioned racism. I'm sure many of the birthers don't care about the birth certificate, they just think he's too "foreign looking" or something.

Apr 27, 2011#25

Zappit

Tress said:
And there's a reason that a (half) black man named Barack Hussein Obama is the first president to have this become an issue. I am absolutely certain a large part of this birther stupidity is fueled by good ol' fashioned racism. I'm sure many of the birthers don't care about the birth certificate, they just think he's too "foreign looking" or something.

There it is. They tried to scare people with his middle name during the campaign. They tried to tie him to every dirty Chicago figure in the city. They condemned him because of his (quite nutty) pastor. They tried to claim he was trying to be "more black", as if that would scare people.

They tried. They failed. He's the POTUS, so now they try this. And every media-whore moron with a bad haircut is trying out these idiotic lines.

Me? I'd like to see documented, medical proof that's actually Trump's hair.

Apr 27, 2011#26

SpecialKO

Zappit said:
Me? I'd like to see documented, medical proof that's actually Trump's hair.

Now, now, don't wig out. Whether you be-weave his claims or not, the bald truth of it is that Trump's just a piece of work.

Apr 28, 2011#27

twitchmoss

SpecialKO said:
Now, now, don't wig out. Whether you be-weave his claims or not, the bald truth of it is that Trump's just a piece of work.

If it IS real, you better believe theres gonna bell hell toupée

Apr 28, 2011#28

Zappit

SpecialKO said:
Now, now, don't wig out. Whether you be-weave his claims or not, the bald truth of it is that Trump's just a piece of work.

All I know is he's been trying to sweep the issue under the rug for years. I want proof!

Apr 28, 2011#29

@Li3n

Chibibar said:
Heh. Interesting theory.

What surprise me (well not really) that people are THAT stupid to believe that a guy, who ran for senator and now is the President. That NO ONE before ever thought about it? never discover it? oh come on!! it would have been all over tabloid when he was a Senator of Chicago saying that he was illegal alien before THEN!

You would think the GOP wouldn't have hired private investigator or use FBI to find out? bleh.

Forget the GOP, no way Hilary wouldn't have used all her resources do dig up anything on him.

Apr 28, 2011#30

Covar

Zappit said:
There it is. They tried to scare people with his middle name during the campaign. They tried to tie him to every dirty Chicago figure in the city. They condemned him because of his (quite nutty) pastor. They tried to claim he was trying to be "more black", as if that would scare people.

They tried. They failed. He's the POTUS, so now they try this. And every media-whore moron with a bad haircut is trying out these idiotic lines.

Me? I'd like to see documented, medical proof that's actually Trump's hair.

It's the same with all the sexism and ageism on the democrat side. After all what other reason could there have been for all the attacks on McCain and Palin?

Trumps hair must be real for no other reason than the man could afford a good toupee.

Apr 28, 2011#31

sixpackshaker

It's Trump's real hair. It is just the rarely seen double comb-over (Yinkle.)

Apr 28, 2011#32

Krisken

Covar said:
It's the same with all the sexism and ageism on the democrat side. After all what other reason could there have been for all the attacks on McCain and Palin?

Trumps hair must be real for no other reason than the man could afford a good toupee.

Yeah, people didn't like Palin because of sexism.

Apr 28, 2011#33

Covar

Yep, and every critic of Obama is a racist, after all what other reason could there be?

Apr 28, 2011#34

Krisken

Covar said:
Yep, and every critic of Obama is a racist, after all what other reason could there be?

There's a difference between being critical and being downright absurd. This birth certificate thing, it's downright absurd. Dislike him all you want for his policies. Even I hate some of the policy stances he's taken.

Sarah Palin, on the other hand, has shown time and again she knows shit about anything. Who the hell quits as Governor just to make money and be a pundit and have a reality show? She was a terrible pick for VP and most of the McCain staffers agreed. It was George Bush all over again, and most of America had enough of that.

Nevermind all that crap, it has been shown time and again that birthers are always wrong when it comes to this issue.

Apr 28, 2011#35

Chibibar

Covar said:
Yep, and every critic of Obama is a racist, after all what other reason could there be?

I believe that the birthers are pretty much racist at this point. Has ANY OTHER president (up until now all been white) had this many issues with Birth Certificate? I don't remember any of the president "required" as much as Obama did.

Apr 28, 2011#36

sixpackshaker

There were people that looked into Chester Arthur's birthplace. There is a decent chance that he was born in Quebec not Vermont.

McCain was not born in the US.

Apr 28, 2011#37

Tress

Covar said:
Yep, and every critic of Obama is a racist, after all what other reason could there be?

No one said that. Stop acting like a child and trying to play the victim. We're complaining about birther conspiracy nuts, not everyone who dislikes Obama.

Apr 28, 2011#38

Covar

Tress said:
No one said that. Stop acting like a child and trying to play the victim. We're complaining about birther conspiracy nuts, not everyone who dislikes Obama.

Zappit said:
There it is. They tried to scare people with his middle name during the campaign. They tried to tie him to every dirty Chicago figure in the city. They condemned him because of his (quite nutty) pastor. They tried to claim he was trying to be "more black", as if that would scare people.

Silly me, I didn't realize that all of that is just crazy birther conspiracy.

hint, 2 of the items Zappit mentioned were/are legitimate concerns and speak of the character of a man. Can you guess which two?

Apr 28, 2011#39

Tress

Covar said:
Silly me, I didn't realize that all of that is just crazy birther conspiracy.

Here's how I read it:

There it is. [Racists] tried to scare people with his middle name during the campaign. [Racists] tried to tie him to every dirty Chicago figure in the city. [Racists] condemned him because of his (quite nutty) pastor. [Racists] tried to claim he was trying to be "more black", as if that would scare people.

The first point is racist (Oooh! He's has a terrorist sounding name!). The second one is probably the only one that didn't have to do with race. The third one goes back to the racism (Oooh! His firebrand pastor means Obama wants to start a race war/oppress white people/whatever). The last one is even more obvious.

I'm pretty sure Zappit was talking about racist douchebags in the country, not all people who dislike Obama. They tend to give more rational complaints relating to policy.

Apr 28, 2011#40

Espy

So wait, I'm confused, if I don't like Obama am I a racist or not? I gotta know people, the (racial?) tension is killing me.

Also, if I don't like Donald Trump what does that make me?

Apr 28, 2011#41

Ravenpoe

Espy said:
Also, if I don't like Donald Trump what does that make me?

Sane.

And fired.

Apr 28, 2011#42

Espy

DAMMIT. I needed that job.

Apr 28, 2011#43

Chibibar

Espy said:
So wait, I'm confused, if I don't like Obama am I a racist or not? I gotta know people, the (racial?) tension is killing me.

Also, if I don't like Donald Trump what does that make me?

If you are a birther, you might be racist

If you don't like Obama, you just don't like his politics.

Apr 28, 2011#44

Krisken

Looks like we need us a Venn diagram.

Apr 28, 2011#45

Covar

Krisken said:
Looks like we need us a Venn diagram.

I was hoping for a pie chart, but that's because I'm hungry.

Apr 28, 2011#46

Piotyr

Birther's guide to Obama's birth certificate:

Apr 29, 2011#47

@Li3n

Covar said:
It's the same with all the sexism and ageism on the democrat side. After all what other reason could there have been for all the attacks on McCain and Palin?

Pretty sure most of the attacks on them where not as asinine as the whole birther thing... and those that where probably did have something to do with some -ism or other...

Apr 29, 2011#48

sixpackshaker

There were some ageism attacks on McCain, some were pretty funny. Palin... is talentism a word?

Apr 29, 2011#49

Dave

I posit that there are as many people who voted against Obama for his race as there were people who voted for Obama because of his race.

Apr 29, 2011#50

Espy

Dave said:
I posit that there are as many people who voted against Obama for his race as there were people who voted for Obama because of his race.

MISOGYNY!

Apr 29, 2011#51

Enresshou

Not sure why there's so much hubbub about his "real" birth certificate being posted, when it was posted way back during the election:

But to be serious...I'm sick of hearing about this from the Birthers. It makes me sad and angry that there are this many people who fall into selective reasoning, often due to simple racism, for a legitimately elected president.

On the bright side, I liked that he did this when Trump was about to give another speech.

Apr 29, 2011#52

Krisken

Yup. Now I want to see Trump's birth certificate and financial records.

Apr 29, 2011#53

Tress

Krisken said:
Yup. Now I want to see Trump's birth certificate and financial records.

Apparently we should be looking into more into his history during the Vietnam War.

Apr 30, 2011#54

AshburnerX

What the hell is wrong with politicians? If you did some dodgey like dodge the draft, or seduce an intern, or use drugs, COME CLEAN ABOUT IT. Hiding it only makes you look guilty when it inevitably comes to light. Honestly, most Americans don't give a shit about this stuff until you hide it.

Apr 30, 2011#55

Tress

AshburnerX said:
What the hell is wrong with politicians? If you did some dodgey like dodge the draft, or seduce an intern, or use drugs, COME CLEAN ABOUT IT. Hiding it only makes you look guilty when it inevitably comes to light. Honestly, most Americans don't give a shit about this stuff until you hide it.

At the very least you shouldn't base your entire campaign on accusing someone else of lying about their past and accusing them of being un-American, all the while hiding some embarrassing skeletons in your own closet. I know hypocrisy is par for the course with these guys, but to do it on such an epic scale as this makes you into little more than a joke.

May 2, 2011#56

@Li3n

Dave said:
I posit that there are as many people who voted against Obama for his race as there were people who voted for Obama because of his race.

Or who voted against McCain because he was old... but even then no one actually brought up the fact that he was born in Panama...

EDIT: And if i wanted to be accurate i'd say that it's "as many people got out and bothered to vote because of Obama's race"... because let's be honest, none of those people would have voted Republican in the 1st place.

May 2, 2011#57

sixpackshaker

I remember the good old days when releasing his Long Form Certificate of Live Birth was the biggest news to come out of his administration...

May 2, 2011#58

Wahad

Why releasing his Long Form was a good idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E

May 2, 2011#59

Chibibar

Wahad said:
Why releasing his Long Form was a good idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E

Doh! he is really jabbing everyone. funny stuff.

May 4, 2011#60

Frankie Williamson

Wahad said:
Why releasing his Long Form was a good idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E

Wait, wait, wait....was that video real?

May 4, 2011#61

Tress

Frankie Williamson said:
Wait, wait, wait....was that video real?

Yes.

May 4, 2011#62

AshburnerX

Tress said:
Yes.

I think that opening sequence only proves what we've ALWAYS secretly known about Obama... that he is as big of a nerd as the rest of us. This is a good thing.

May 4, 2011#63

Jiarn

I wonder what the McCain Dinner would have been like.... thank god for Obama.

May 4, 2011#64

Tress

Jiarn said:
I wonder what the McCain Dinner would have been like.... thank god for Obama.

The dinner would have been at 4pm. It would open with a clip montage from Golden Girls and Gran Torino, followed by a quick end so McCain could go to bed at a decent hour (7:30, after watching Jeopardy!)

May 4, 2011#65

GasBandit

I've always said this was a dead end road to go down. Such a colossal waste of time and energy these people have inflicted upon us all. I do wonder why it took so long, but it seems to me if I remember correctly, Obama would still have been a natural born citizen even if he HAD been born in Kenya, since he had a parent who was a US citizen who had lived in the US for at least 10 years.

Really, there's plenty of other reasons to oppose Obama's presidency, without trying to delve into technicalities or putting on the tinfoil hats.

May 4, 2011#66

Jiarn

Hey Gasbandit.

Get over it? -grin-

May 4, 2011#67

Krisken

Yup, he is hilarious. Much better than Trump with no sense of humor.

May 5, 2011#68

SpecialKO

GasBandit said:
I do wonder why it took so long, but it seems to me if I remember correctly, Obama would still have been a natural born citizen even if he HAD been born in Kenya, since he had a parent who was a US citizen who had lived in the US for at least 10 years.

I suspect it took so long because:

1) From the state of Hawaii's perspective, it would be like showing a gov-agency your driver's license to prove who you are after you showed them your passport with its verifiable barcode and picture.

2) The serious conspiracy nuts would never have believed it anyway. I still don't know why he bothered in the first place.

May 5, 2011#69

Frankie Williamson

Optimus Prime is not a US citizen. Is he who Obama should be parading in his I'm American as fuck video?

Though, technically, I'd imagine he'd qualify as an indigenous people. He and the Autobots and Decepticons did reside in a mountain in Oregon for 4 million years.

May 5, 2011#70

AshburnerX

Frankie Williamson said:
Optimus Prime is not a US citizen. Is he who Obama should be parading in his I'm American as fuck video?

Though, technically, I'd imagine he'd qualify as an indigenous people. He and the Autobots and Decepticons did reside in a mountain in Oregon for 4 million years.

Optimus Prime believes in the freedom of ALL sentient beings. Can't get more American than that!

May 5, 2011#71

ScytheRexx

What is weird to me is Trump actually seems to be enjoying Obama's ribs on him. The actual comedian only got an evil glare.

May 5, 2011#72

Jiarn

AshburnerX said:
Optimus Prime believes in the freedom of ALL sentient beings. Can't get more American than that!

May 5, 2011#73

AshburnerX

Yeah, about that...

Nevermind that he's an illegal alien anyway...

May 5, 2011#74

Jiarn

It was in response to him believing in freedom for all sentient beings and not having to be from here or a citizen to make that happen. It's what the real American Dream should be about, and he embodies that.

May 5, 2011#75

AshburnerX

Jiarn said:
It was in response to him believing in freedom for all sentient beings and not having to be from here or a citizen to make that happen. It's what the real American Dream should be about, and he embodies that.

I was teasing you

Don't be so serious.

Besides, DC has already declared the event discanon after less than a week. Which is a shame, because it made a lot of sense in light of things. What exactly is America supposed to do when a guy who typically represents them decides to do something that might be considered an act of war in some eyes? Especially if there is nothing you can do to stop him.

May 5, 2011#76

Jiarn

Totally should have been your comeback. -grin-

May 5, 2011#77

GasBandit

SpecialKO said:
2) The serious conspiracy nuts would never have believed it anyway. I still don't know why he bothered in the first place.

I have an uncle who thinks the long form BC has provided ironclad proof that Obama is ineligible to be president, no matter how much sense the rest of us try to talk to him. He thinks that because his father was a foreign national, and it is officially listed so on the form, that makes him not a "natural born" citizen, end of story. Our pointing out of Chester A. Arthur's precedent (his father was an irish national) has fallen on deaf ears. It's exasperating.

May 5, 2011#78

AshburnerX

GasBandit said:
I have an uncle who thinks the long form BC has provided ironclad proof that Obama is ineligible to be president, no matter how much sense the rest of us try to talk to him. He thinks that because his father was a foreign national, and it is officially listed so on the form, that makes him not a "natural born" citizen, end of story. Our pointing out of Chester A. Arthur's precedent (his father was an irish national) has fallen on deaf ears. It's exasperating.

That's how my father is acting as well. I really wish he'd just give up the ghost and just come out and say it's because Obama's black. I always catch him watching our black neighbors through the window...

May 5, 2011#79

Krisken

AshburnerX said:
That's how my father is acting as well. I really wish he'd just give up the ghost and just come out and say it's because Obama's black. I always catch him watching our black neighbors through the window...

Is it fear, or is it lust? Sometimes it's better not to ask.

May 5, 2011#80

Covar

Jealousy.

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