Pet Peeve rants.

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PatrThom said:
Sure, I can be. But I hate miscommunication. Absolutely despise it.
That's why I requested that Yoshi confirm his apparent inability to procure red/blue glasses. I wanted to know whether they had been deprecated.
I then related my personal previous difficulty with sourcing red/green glasses (since everyone under 50 seems to assume that red/blue glasses were the only kind ever), and tried to explain to you why that would matter (i.e., for truly old movie viewing).
I am sorry that my personality trait(s) trips your personal trigger. I got no beef with you at all.

--Patrick
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Like I said before, Null is from New Jersey. "Fuck" is a universal word that can mean anything. Take this typical Jersey exchange:

Jersey native 1: Hey, fuck you, buddy!
Jersey native 2: No, fuck you, you motherfucker!

This exchange seems aggressive to external viewers. So let's translate to standard English:

Jersey native 1: Good morning fine sir!
Jersey native 2: And a lovely day to you, my good man!
 
Celt Z

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Like I said before, Null is from New Jersey. "Fuck" is a universal word that can mean anything. Take this typical Jersey exchange:

Jersey native 1: Hey, fuck you, buddy!
Jersey native 2: No, fuck you, you motherfucker!

This exchange seems aggressive to external viewers. So let's translate to standard English:

Jersey native 1: Good morning fine sir!
Jersey native 2: And a lovely day to you, my good man!
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"Fuckin'-a" is New Jerseyan for "indeed".
 
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Sparhawk said:
Did you travel to the past and change the location of where you and your family lived? You are still from there, no matter if everyone left there.
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Yes and no. If someone I just met asked me where I'm from, I'd say the Shore. I think it depends on who's asking or when. You are correct that we were from there, but we do not currently hail from there, thus the is/was clarification.
 
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I don't know if this qualifies as a "pet peeve", but it bugs me in fiction--especially anime and manga--when characters divorce themselves from humans, and talk derisively about humans, while a) looking 100% identical to humans, and b) acting just like humans. Or when they talk about humans as lesser, while attempting to steal some human technology, wearing human designed clothing, using human designed weaponry, and living in human built buildings.
 
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I don't know if this qualifies as a "pet peeve", but it bugs me in fiction--especially anime and manga--when characters divorce themselves from humans, and talk derisively about humans, while a) looking 100% identical to humans, and b) acting just like humans. Or when they talk about humans as lesser, while attempting to steal some human technology, wearing human designed clothing, using human designed weaponry, and living in human built buildings.
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I have a similar pet peeve..I hate it when non-humans (no matter how minor the difference) refer to people as "the humans." I especially hate it in supernatural stories when some just-turned-vampire refers to "the humans".

It just kills me. If I were human yesterday, I wouldn't suddenly start thinking of all of my friends, family, as "the humans" if I became other-than-human today. It always seems stilted and fake.
 
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Tinwhistler said:
I have a similar pet peeve..I hate it when non-humans (no matter how minor the difference) refer to people as "the humans." I especially hate it in supernatural stories when some just-turned-vampire refers to "the humans".

It just kills me. If I were human yesterday, I wouldn't suddenly start thinking of all of my friends, family, as "the humans" if I became other-than-human today. It always seems stilted and fake.
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Okay, I'll partially defend that one: it depends on how much of the original person is left from the transformation. For example, in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, with vampires, the person essentially dies, and a demonic entity moves in to their body. It has complete access to their memories, but the soul is gone - they are not human anymore, and the entity in control never was human, though the body will have memories of being human. So from the vampire's perspective, referring to humans as separate and distinct is entirely appropriate.
However, in a series where being turned doesn't erase the humanity, just adds powers and vulnerabilities, then yes, that is stupid.
 
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Null said:
Okay, I'll partially defend that one: it depends on how much of the original person is left from the transformation. For example, in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, with vampires, the person essentially dies, and a demonic entity moves in to their body. It has complete access to their memories, but the soul is gone - they are not human anymore, and the entity in control never was human, though the body will have memories of being human. So from the vampire's perspective, referring to humans as separate and distinct is entirely appropriate.
However, in a series where being turned doesn't erase the humanity, just adds powers and vulnerabilities, then yes, that is stupid.
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Sure, you can find examples in which it fits. But the whole phrase has become such a cliche to me that I cringe every time I hear it.
 
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Tinwhistler said:
Sure, you can find examples in which it fits. But the whole phrase has become such a cliche to me that I cringe every time I hear it.
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In the original Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen, as newly risen vampire Kain, you see the shift in perspective happen from his perspective - the more powerful a vampire he becomes, the less attached to humanity he feels. Now, it turns out that originally in Nosgoth the "vampires" were nothing of the sort - they were an ancient race of enlightened mystics, powerful and wise. But when their god, The Elder God, convinced them to go to war with a rival race, the Hylden, they were cursed with immortality, sterility, and bloodthirst. Eventually the ancients found they could replenish their numbers by converting mortals: Vorador was the first, so by the time of the first game, he's literally thousands of years old. From his perspective, humans are just short-lived livestock, for the most part.
 
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See, the livestock one is exactly the one I don't get, though. It's not like a cow lives and thinks and acts exactly like you.
 
Denbrought

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See, the livestock one is exactly the one I don't get, though. It's not like a cow lives and thinks and acts exactly like you.
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I thought that was precisely why it made sense as a coping mechanism. Not completely sure, but I think more people would become moral vegetarians if they assigned more agency to the meat they eat.

Tokyo Ghoul (at least the first season) had a decent attempt at showcasing this, hamfisted as it was at times.
 
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Hey, Cows like Lorde like everybody else.



Sometimes I think that the closer something is to sentience the better it tastes.
 
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GasBandit wishes to hunt the most dangerous game.

...which is probably a lion or something. Definitely not most of the lazy stupid people I know.
 
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Sera said:
GB's a dentist?
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I thrill when I drill a bicuspid
It's swell, although they tell me I'm maladjusted
And even though it may cause my patients distress
Somewhere in heaven up above me
I know that my momma's proud of me
Because I'm a dentist, and a success!
 
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GasBandit said:
I thrill when I drill a bicuspid
It's swell, although they tell me I'm maladjusted
And even though it may cause my patients distress
Somewhere in heaven up above me
I know that my momma's proud of me
Because I'm a dentist, and a success!
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There he go, the leader of the plaque. Watch him suck up that Gas, oh my god!
 
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