Roman Polanski

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Chazwozel

I'm not going to link any news articles about his arrest. I do, however, think it's complete and utter bullshit. The victim forgave him ages ago, and even requested his pardon. Roman Polanski...yeah, huge danger to society there. I say if they lock him away, they should release Charles Manson to balance out the prison costs.

The American Justice system is so convoluted and methodical. Instead of applying generic laws to individual cases and, you know, constructing some sort of justice system based on the circumstances, everything is done in such bullshit black and white fashion.

The only reason Polanski is getting arrested is to be made an example of, nothing more. It sickens me.
 
The American Justice system is so convoluted and methodical. Instead of applying generic laws to individual cases and, you know, constructing some sort of justice system based on the circumstances, everything is done in such bullshit black and white fashion.
"Murdered man 'huge douche', judge lets perp go"
 
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Chazwozel

The American Justice system is so convoluted and methodical. Instead of applying generic laws to individual cases and, you know, constructing some sort of justice system based on the circumstances, everything is done in such bullshit black and white fashion.
"Murdered man 'huge douche', judge lets perp go"
Haha.
 
haha.

don't worry though, i think this is kind of dumb too! i mean, he took naked pictures of, then drugged/raped a 13 year old girl, but she forgave him, so it's all good.

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WolfOfOdin

I'm hoping he goes to jail for life. I'm just annoyed California doesn't have the death penalty
 
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Chazwozel

haha.

don't worry though, i think this is kind of dumb too! i mean, he took naked pictures of, then drugged/raped a 13 year old girl, but she forgave him, so it's all good.

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Riight, that's exactly what happened. He wasn't pressured into a plea bargain or anything by the judge or police. A 13 year old girl just happened to be walking home from school when Polanski and his goons hunted her down off the bus, and forced her into Jack Nicolson's house.
 
I'm hoping he goes to jail for life. I'm just annoyed California doesn't have the death penalty
welp, looks like we've hit the other side of wrong.

Riight, that's exactly what happened. He wasn't pressured into a plea bargain or anything by the judge or police. A 13 year old girl just happened to be walking home from school when Polanski and his goons hunted her down off the bus, and forced her into Jack Nicolson's house.
hm. so has he at some point denied the charges against him?
 
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Chazwozel

I don't think he shouldn't pay towards the crime with some kind of community service, fines, and a small stint in jail...
 
I was surprised by this the other day when I saw it on the Washington Post website, I had heard a bunch about Polanski in the past but never about this case...

As I read the article I had sympathy for him, I think statutory rape charges are ridiculous most of the time, until I got to the part about the alcohol and qualade... He straight up raped her... He essentially roofied her. That isn't just statutory, that's full on rape.
 
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Armadillo

Apparently France wants him to be treated lightly because of his "exceptional artistic creation and human qualities." Oh, WELL THEN, I guess we can excuse the rape because he makes good movies. So if you want to commit acts of violence or sexual abuse, just be an artist and you'll get a slap on the wrist in France!
 

North_Ranger

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Roman Polanski...yeah, huge danger to society there. I say if they lock him away, they should release Charles Manson to balance out the prison costs.
I'm going to venture a guess that you forgot about Sharon Tate.

If you didn't, that's just goddamn, fucking poor taste even from you.


Otherwise... well...
1.) At least the whole debate will be over. Maybe the courts will be lenient, maybe not. We'll see.
2.) The Holocaust deniers will have a field day with this one. "Pianist director and Holohoax survivor pedophile finally caught". Fuckin' assholes...
 
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Chazwozel

Apparently France wants him to be treated lightly because of his \"exceptional artistic creation and human qualities.\" Oh, WELL THEN, I guess we can excuse the rape because he makes good movies. So if you want to commit acts of violence or sexual abuse, just be an artist and you'll get a slap on the wrist in France!
...30 years ago, alleged and basically forced confession. Roman Polanski is not a danger to society. Isn't that the whole point of incarceration? To rehabilitate? I don't see the guy going on mass raping sprees.

I believe they were going to let him off lightly in the 70's with a full psych examination and treatment, but due to the judge backing out of the plea bargain details and wanting a full prosecution, Polanski fled the country. Yes, Armadillo, having your wife stabbed 16 times while she's 8 months pregnant by a cult would fuck someone up royally.

Putting him away for this crime is not the answer.

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Roman Polanski...yeah, huge danger to society there. I say if they lock him away, they should release Charles Manson to balance out the prison costs.
I'm going to venture a guess that you forgot about Sharon Tate.

If you didn't, that's just goddamn, fucking poor taste even from you.


Otherwise... well...
1.) At least the whole debate will be over. Maybe the courts will be lenient, maybe not. We'll see.
2.) The Holocaust deniers will have a field day with this one. "Pianist director and Holohoax survivor pedophile finally caught". Fuckin' assholes...[/QUOTE]

That was the whole point. The guy was obviously fucked in the head for a while after that happened.
 
Roman Polanski...yeah, huge danger to society there. I say if they lock him away, they should release Charles Manson to balance out the prison costs.
I'm going to venture a guess that you forgot about Sharon Tate.

If you didn't, that's just goddamn, fucking poor taste even from you.


Otherwise... well...
1.) At least the whole debate will be over. Maybe the courts will be lenient, maybe not. We'll see.
2.) The Holocaust deniers will have a field day with this one. "Pianist director and Holohoax survivor pedophile finally caught". Fuckin' assholes...[/QUOTE]

poor taste? like, 45 odd years is too soon?

Apparently France wants him to be treated lightly because of his \"exceptional artistic creation and human qualities.\" Oh, WELL THEN, I guess we can excuse the rape because he makes good movies. So if you want to commit acts of violence or sexual abuse, just be an artist and you'll get a slap on the wrist in France!
that's... pretty much how all of history has worked. might as well just change "artist" to "famous" and remove "in France!"
 

North_Ranger

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Gurpel, let's just say I have very little compassion for a tweaked-out sadistic bastard and his little harem killing a pregnant woman. The complete lack of humanity in that act... GRRRRRAAAAAHHH!!!
 
Gurpel, let's just say I have very little compassion for a tweaked-out sadistic bastard and his little harem killing a pregnant woman. The complete lack of humanity in that act... GRRRRRAAAAAHHH!!!
i don't exactly see eye to eye with hitler, but it doesn't stop me from telling holocaust jokes that are in poor taste ("even for me")

at some point we all just have to sit back, let the anger become embarrassment, and try not to repeat our mistakes.
 
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Wasabi Poptart

So Chaz...when your daughter is 13, let's say some guy in his 40's gives her alcohol, puts some kind of drug in her drink, and then proceeds to rape and sodomize her. You wouldn't want any kind of justice for him drugging and raping your little girl as long as she forgives him. You'd want him to live his life free as a bird, right?
 
haha.

don't worry though, i think this is kind of dumb too! i mean, he took naked pictures of, then drugged/raped a 13 year old girl, but she forgave him, so it's all good.

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In his defense did you see pictures of her? She was one hot 13 year old. Who here wouldn't hit that?
 
Considering he was treated with kid gloves because he was a 'famous director', I'm not so sure he should be treated with more kid gloves because he's even more famous now.

The guy bloody fled the country to avoid going to jail. If he wasn't man enough to deal with his punishment then, he can bloody well stay away from the country as continuing punishment. No, him getting extradited and brought back to the US is rather silly (and even his victim says it shouldn't happen) but the guy still broke the law.

If it was your daughter Chaz, you wouldn't be so willing to say "Aww hell, you weren't punished at all, but you're obviously a good guy so c'mon back to the US."

At the very least, the victim should receive a very nice retirement fund.

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In case people forgot what he did:

In 1977, Polanski, then aged 44, became embroiled in a scandal involving 13-year-old Samantha Gailey. It ultimately led to Polanski's guilty plea to the charge of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor.

According to Geimer, Polanski asked Geimer's mother if he could photograph the girl for the French edition of Vogue, which Polanski had been invited to guest-edit. Her mother allowed a private photo shoot. According to Geimer in a 2003 interview, "Everything was going fine; then he asked me to change, well, in front of him." She added, "It didn't feel right, and I didn't want to go back to the second shoot."

Geimer later agreed to a second session, which took place on March 10, 1977 at the Mulholland area home of actor Jack Nicholson in Los Angeles. "We did photos with me drinking champagne," Geimer says. "Toward the end it got a little scary, and I realized he had other intentions and I knew I was not where I should be. I just didn't quite know how to get myself out of there." She recalled in a 2003 interview that she began to feel uncomfortable after he asked her to lie down on a bed, and how she attempted to resist. "I said, 'No, no. I don't want to go in there. No, I don't want to do this. No!', and then I didn't know what else to do," she stated, adding: "We were alone and I didn’t know what else would happen if I made a scene. So I was just scared, and after giving some resistance, I figured well, I guess I’ll get to come home after this".

Geimer testified that Polanski gave her a combination of champagne and quaaludes, a sedative drug, then kissed her, performed cunnilingus on her, penetrated her vaginally, and then penetrated her anally, each time after being told 'no' and being asked to stop.

Now quick, picture that crazy guy that stands on the side of the road with his "Free Cat" sign doing this. Does that change your mind on what kind of punishment the person should receive?

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Oh, and just another piece of what Roman's punishment would have been had he not been a complete coward.

"If a person is more than three years older than the minor with whom they have sex, that person is guilty of a misdemeanor or a felony. If convicted of a felony, that person can be imprisoned in state prison for up to four years."
 
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Armadillo

If this was my 13-year-old, Polanski'd be lucky to get off with 4 years in jail.
 
Well, technically that's what he plea bargained down to from rape - of course when he found out that there was still going to be jail time, he skipped sentencing and went back to his home country.
 
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Chazwozel

So Chaz...when your daughter is 13, let's say some guy in his 40's gives her alcohol, puts some kind of drug in her drink, and then proceeds to rape and sodomize her. You wouldn't want any kind of justice for him drugging and raping your little girl as long as she forgives him. You'd want him to live his life free as a bird, right?
I was waiting for some numb nut to mention my daughter. I'm kinda disappointed it was you.
 
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Chazwozel

I wouldn't have my daughter go off and do a 'private' midnight photo shoot with him in Jack Nicholson's house.


* what the hell is up with editing posts?*
 
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Chazwozel

The girl didn't forgive him - she just doesn't think he should go to jail forever.
I'm not at all saying what he did was right in the least, but the guy is not a danger to society. The punishment at this point would not fit.
 
I'm wondering if the Swiss will use him as a bargaining chip to secure some tax haven-friendly banking laws Stateside.
 
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Chazwozel

The girl didn't forgive him - she just doesn't think he should go to jail forever.
I'm not at all saying what he did was right in the least, but the guy is not a danger to society. The punishment at this point would not fit.[/QUOTE]

I agree with that. Let him never enter the US again; that can be his punishment.[/QUOTE]

Sure. I think he was living quite happily in France. If that's the life he chose as opposed to facing U.S. justice, then so be it. The thing that irks me is how U.S. prosecutors have been pushing this so hard and pretty much pressured the Swiss police to make the arrest. The point isn't about the pursuit of justice anymore. It's to lynch him and say, "we got our man."

And the girl's parents are just as guilty of setting up that sort of situation to begin with. What a great parent. Send your 13 year old to a Hollywood actor's house for a private photo shoot. What did they imagine would happen? They knew they were whoring their daughter for a chance of stardom and money.
 
The thing that irks me is how U.S. prosecutors have been pushing this so hard and pretty much pressured the Swiss police to make the arrest. The point isn't about the pursuit of justice anymore. It's to lynch him and say, "we got our man."
It does seem like they wanted him worse than Osama bin Laden.

I'm sure that's not the case. But it did seem like it.
 
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WolfOfOdin

Guh, mental flub on my part.

Either or it's not generally used in rape cases...the inmates do that part sans appeals.

Also, I have a -very- dim view of rapists and especially child rapists. Just because his wife was killed by the Manson family is no excuse for him to get sympathy on this matter.
 
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