*sighs, turns over "DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING IN AMERICA" sign to 0*

Reports coming out of New Brunswick of a shooter in Moncton. Twitter had a picture of a guy with cammos and two rifles.
 
No he's actively targeting the police. He's at last report in the woods near the subdivision. Moncton is still locked down, only essential services are being allowed to go to work and every car is being searched.
 
I have some very close friends and family that live within the lockdown area. My aunt, for example, and her two sons and 8 grandchildren all live within the same area. And some close friends. So I'm extra worried and hopeful they get this guy soon.
 

Necronic

Staff member
Man we weren't even finished talking about the last shooting.

But it's a double edged sword - consider all the media scandals and stories we've had in the last few years of new york cops engaged in civil rights violations, "stop and frisk," or just the outright shooting of innocent civilians by NYPD. Yes, crime does go down very fast under a police state.
I liked the graphs, they were actually pretty convincing. But then you go and say this and I go into eye-roll overdrive. This is so insulting to people who actually live in a police state, like 90% of the rest of the world and 99% of history. You have no idea what a police state is. Also the fact that you agree with Charlie on this point should tell you something.

Doesn't change the value of the graphs, but it does hurt your positions as a salesman, which is what politics really is about.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Man we weren't even finished talking about the last shooting.



I liked the graphs, they were actually pretty convincing. But then you go and say this and I go into eye-roll overdrive. This is so insulting to people who actually live in a police state, like 90% of the rest of the world and 99% of history. You have no idea what a police state is. Also the fact that you agree with Charlie on this point should tell you something.

Doesn't change the value of the graphs, but it does hurt your positions as a salesman, which is what politics really is about.
It was poorly worded. I didn't mean to imply that New York currently is a police state, but that there's a tradeoff between security and liberty when it comes to crackdowns. What I had started to type was crime experienced a huge drop in germany when the nazis came to power, but that'd have been invoking godwin.
 
Is it just me or are these incidents occurring more and more often?
It's slightly been a higher-profile issue since Newtown, even though it's a lost cause at this point. Someone could mow down 30 newborns in a maternity ward tomorrow, and gun sales will triple over the weekend and the NRA will set a fundraising record.
 
I went into work today just to sit around with people and listen to Moncton's emergency band. It was a pretty dreadful all around. Felt pretty helpless.
 
He was in a friend of mines neighbourhood when he started shooting. Getting FB updates on a regular basis with that kind of thing happening is pretty damn chilling.
 
They got him alive. Which many of my fellow members were lamenting. I'm glad. I want him to face trial.
 
They got him alive. Which many of my fellow members were lamenting. I'm glad. I want him to face trial.
The moment I saw you had posted, I thought "please be telling us they got him". Fuck yeah.

And I'm with you. Too many of these shits don't have to face what they've done and the people whose lives they've hurt or destroyed.
 
Awesome. I was hoping he'd be taken alive. Now let him face justice and then we can psychologically analyse him for the rest of his life so we can try preventing it from happening with someone else.
 

Dave

Staff member
This.

Though husband was convinced that this guy was not going to come in alive. He predicted 'police justice'.

I told him we aren't Americans. :p

That was a joke.
Yet Frank's buddies all wanted to mete out said justice. So...human nature.

And yes, I know you were joking. I'm sorry.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
I know it was a joke, but point of fact, our shooters who didn't get taken alive turned their guns on themselves.

Civilians in the general vicinity of the fleeing shooters, however... let's just say I think our officers need more range time at the very least.
 
Yet Frank's buddies all wanted to mete out said justice. So...human nature.

And yes, I know you were joking. I'm sorry.
Oh I know.

I just think that the desire to be professional and find out 'why' tends to trump the urge to pass sentence.

...I did think this guy would get knee capped though.
 
And meanwhile, the US MSM is pretty much silent over the Moncton shooter being caught.

AND HE SHOT COPS.
Yes but it doesn't allow them to do stories about themselves. If the news media has a fetish it's stories about the news media.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Yeah, if they can't shove their cameras up in the crying faces of victims' families, they're not interested.
 
Yet Frank's buddies all wanted to mete out said justice. So...human nature.

And yes, I know you were joking. I'm sorry.
To be fair, most of them are saying that as guys (and gals) who are thousands of miles from where this happened. It's easy to say things like that in the heat of the moment when you aren't a part of what's going on.
 
This happened in Moncton today at the RCMP station to show support for the fallen officers. Unbelievable show of support.

 
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The term "going postal" has been around for a long time. Longer that a lot of posters on here have been alive, matter of fact.
 
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