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GasBandit

GasBandit

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Emrys said:
Where is the sign-up list and do I get to choose?
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Nope. Entirely random. Nobody gets to choose anything other than whether or not to sign up. Ya pays yer money and takes yer chances. That's kind of an important part of the thought experiment.
 
WasabiPoptart

WasabiPoptart

GasBandit said:
Supposing every poster (male and female) on halforums was unmarried and unattached. Call it, aliens whisked us all to a parallel Earth where our spouses and children never existed, never to return, whatever.

If we proposed a random weekly match, where each female was given a random male poster for a one night stand of guaranteed obligation-free sex, how many female Halforumites do you think would decide to sign up vs not sign up and continue with traditional "gatekeeper" gender roles? And how many males do you think would sign up, even knowing that as they would greatly outnumber female participants even in a 100% participation situation they stand an excellent chance of ending up with nothing? How many on both sides would participate? How many would continue to participate if it cost $10 a try? $100?
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With this group? I don't think many people here, male or female, would have sex for the sake of sex. What if you meet and there is no attraction at all, physical or otherwise? Just shut up, turn out the lights, get it over with, and get out? Why not just have a glory hole and you get who you get? I think people of both genders care more about the emotional/mental side to sex than you're giving them credit for.
 
blotsfan

blotsfan

WasabiPoptart said:
With this group? I don't think many people here, male or female, would have sex for the sake of sex. What if you meet and there is no attraction at all, physical or otherwise? Just shut up, turn out the lights, get it over with, and get out? Why not just have a glory hole and you get who you get? I think people of both genders care more about the emotional/mental side to sex than you're giving them credit for.
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Now we're talking!
 
WasabiPoptart

WasabiPoptart

And yes, I've had one night stands and sex for the pleasure of it. But I was attracted to the guys in some way which is what made me want them for snu-snu in the first place.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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WasabiPoptart said:
With this group? I don't think many people here, male or female, would have sex for the sake of sex. What if you meet and there is no attraction at all, physical or otherwise? Just shut up, turn out the lights, get it over with, and get out? Why not just have a glory hole and you get who you get? I think people of both genders care more about the emotional/mental side to sex than you're giving them credit for.
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Well, that's part of why I specifically limited it to halforumites - most of us are on at least minimally friendly terms with each other, so it's not a "perfect strangers" situation.

I'm not saying every single male would sign up, But I'd bet a lot higher percentage of males would sign up than females. Especially when you start having to pay to play.

I could be wrong though. Maybe it'd just be me and Emrys ending up with each other every single drawing.
 
Dei

Dei

I'm kind of with Wasabi here, at least in the sense of not really equating randomly sleeping around with anyone to owning your sexuality.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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WasabiPoptart said:
There's a higher percentage of males on the forum anyway. Is there a two for one night? LOL!
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Heh, maybe an optional checkbox ;)

But what I meant by higher percentage was that, if we have (rounded off numbers) a total of 100 males and 10 females, I'm betting that a higher percentage of those 100 males will sign up than a percentage of the 10 females. And that's part of the experiment - the guys know they stand an excellent chance of not getting paired up, and they'd still pay to play at a greater rate, I'd assert.[DOUBLEPOST=1454374645,1454374622][/DOUBLEPOST]
Dei said:
I'm kind of with Wasabi here, at least in the sense of not really equating randomly sleeping around with anyone to owning your sexuality.
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Then you're not as sex crazed as guys quite yet ;)
 
WasabiPoptart

WasabiPoptart

GasBandit said:
Heh, maybe an optional checkbox ;)

But what I meant by higher percentage was that, if we have (rounded off numbers) a total of 100 males and 10 females, I'm betting that a higher percentage of those 100 males will sign up than a percentage of the 10 females. And that's part of the experiment - the guys know they stand an excellent chance of not getting paired up, and they'd still pay to play at a greater rate, I'd assert.
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I knew what you meant. I needed to make the joke though. :awesome:
 
Dei

Dei

GasBandit said:
Heh, maybe an optional checkbox ;)

But what I meant by higher percentage was that, if we have (rounded off numbers) a total of 100 males and 10 females, I'm betting that a higher percentage of those 100 males will sign up than a percentage of the 10 females. And that's part of the experiment - the guys know they stand an excellent chance of not getting paired up, and they'd still pay to play at a greater rate, I'd assert.[DOUBLEPOST=1454374645,1454374622][/DOUBLEPOST]
Then you're not as sex crazed as guys quite yet ;)
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Again, randomly having sex with anything does not have to be a thing. There are both men and women who do not feel the need to do that, and can still have their sexual needs fulfilled.[emoji14]But I'm glad you think that men and women can't be equal until everyone is fucking Gloryholes with @blotsfan.

(Take my ire as tongue in cheek for the record :p)
 
WasabiPoptart

WasabiPoptart

If guys are so sex crazed, Gas, then why aren't you having sex with anyone or everyone who is willing? If you're going to pay $10-100 for a chance at sex with a random forumite, then why not a random co-worker (indirect, like another department) or a friend's sister or a strange woman lying in a pond who lobbed a scimitar at you (I hope that was a scimitar...unless you like that sort of thing, which is ok by me). I mean there are a lot of women out there on Craigslist who are hoping for a two minute thirty second ride to paradise. Why not?

Maybe you have. I don't know you well enough to be privy to your sex life. But assuming you are not...you're a sex crazed guy, go get some!
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Dei said:
Again, randomly having sex with anything does not have to be a thing.
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But it already is a thing.
There are both men and women who do not feel the need to do that, and can still have their sexual needs fulfilled.[emoji14]
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Yes, and "there are" people with multiple sets of genetalia, and "there are" animals born with two heads. I'm exaggerating here for effect. But my point is, there would be more men willing to engage the randomness than females, because traditional gender roles and society still push the "men as hunters, women as gatekeepers" paradigm. There are always exceptions, but for the most part it's effort for the male and selection for the female. That's a large part of what drives the imbalance we all take for granted - and it's so baked-in a lot of people don't even think about it, or consider undoing it icky.


But I'm glad you think that men and women can't be equal until everyone is fucking Gloryholes with @blotsfan.
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Ah yes, you're "glad" are you ;)
 
Dei

Dei

Plus, a woman taking initiative in things like dating is definitely more societal pressure than anything. But many a psychological study shows that women tend to want sex just as much as men. So if what you meant to say was "When women can openly admit to their desires in public without repercussions that men do not face," then your point is valid. But please do not make the assumption that only men high five each other in the locker room about getting laid.

Also, considering that I think your idea of hanging out with women is at work or with the few women on Halforums, I don't know that you have your own adequate sample size. I mean, I made one comment about a boyfriend's fetish once and horrified a bunch of dudes who didn't want to know that much about my love life. ;)
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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WasabiPoptart said:
If guys are so sex crazed, Gas, then why aren't you having sex with anyone or everyone who is willing? If you're going to pay $10-100 for a chance at sex with a random forumite, then why not a random co-worker (indirect, like another department) or a friend's sister or a strange woman lying in a pond who lobbed a scimitar at you (I hope that was a scimitar...unless you like that sort of thing, which is ok by me). I mean there are a lot of women out there on Craigslist who are hoping for a two minute thirty second ride to paradise. Why not?

Maybe you have. I don't know you well enough to be privy to your sex life. But assuming you are not...you're a sex crazed guy, go get some!
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Because:
  1. I'm monsterously depressed and unwilling to do anything about it.
  2. I know better than to dip my quill in the company ink. That doesn't ever work out well.
  3. I don't want to risk incarceration for soliciting a prostitute.
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Dei said:
Plus, a woman taking initiative in things like dating is definitely more societal pressure than anything. But many a psychological study shows that women tend to want sex just as much as men. So if what you meant to say was "When women can openly admit to their desires in public without repercussions that men do not face," then your point is valid.
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That is, naturally, a large part of what I'm saying. The stigma has to also be burned away.

But please do not make the assumption that only men high five each other in the locker room about getting laid.
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I'm not saying that doesn't happen.. I just think men are, in general, willing to go to greater lengths. Because they're used to having to go to greater lengths.

Also, considering that I think your idea of hanging out with women is at work or with the few women on Halforums, I don't know that you have your own adequate sample size. I mean, I made one comment about a boyfriend's fetish once and horrified a bunch of dudes who didn't want to know that much about my love life. ;)
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That may be an entirely valid point. For the vast majority of my adult life I was not allowed to have female friends to hang out with - even online - if I wanted to preserve a harmonious home life.
 
Dei

Dei

Let me just say, of the very large amount of women I know, of my own generation, at least half, if not more of them would totally get randomly laid and brag about it the next day. My friend that does my hair will tell me about the last guy she laid every time I see her.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Dei said:
Let me just say, of the very large amount of women I know, of my own generation, at least half, if not more of them would totally get randomly laid and brag about it the next day. My friend that does my hair will tell me about the last guy she laid every time I see her.
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So what I'm gathering here is I should consider moving back to Colorado.
 
WasabiPoptart

WasabiPoptart

GasBandit said:
Because:
  1. I'm monsterously depressed and unwilling to do anything about it.
  2. I know better than to dip my quill in the company ink. That doesn't ever work out well.
  3. I don't want to risk incarceration for soliciting a prostitute.
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My post was meant to be absurd. Particularly since you probably wouldn't even sign up for the Halforums Snu-Snu list yourself.
 
Dei

Dei

GasBandit said:
So what I'm gathering here is I should consider moving back to Colorado.
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Well I mean, the vast majority of women I know are also liberal feminists, who would probably make you cry. That's what comes of living this close to Boulder. Of course, you want to live in Co. Springs, so I got nothing. ;)
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Dei said:
Well I mean, the vast majority of women I know are also liberal feminists, who would probably make you cry. That's what comes of living this close to Boulder. Of course, you want to live in Co. Springs, so I got nothing. ;)
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Well, I don't have to TELL them I'm a libertarian, I can just say I share their views on abortion and gay marriage and not bring up anything else. I can fake leftism long enough for a one night stand ;)

But yeah, then they'll wake up the next morning and see my guns on the wall and it'd all be over.
 
Dei

Dei

For the record, my point of view is that if there's no emotional attachment, I might as well stay home and masturbate. Less risk, and probably more physically fulfilling in the long run.[emoji14]
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Dei said:
For the record, my point of view is that if there's no emotional attachment, I might as well stay home and masturbate. Less risk, and probably more physically fulfilling in the long run.[emoji14]
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Pfft, emotional attachment. Who needs it. Not me, no sir. Not one bit. :foreveralone:
 
bhamv3

bhamv3

I should explain. Though watching the reactions is very fun. :D

I am comfortable ogling, leering, making crude comments towards/about, and generally perving over strangers. People who would not know I'm doing these things to them, and would not be creeped out by it. I am a porn aficionado, particularly when it comes to Japanese porn. I happily peruse the pictures on /r/gonewild and other similar subreddits, and in fact I have a separate Reddit account just for these subreddits. I have a variety of techniques to unobtrusively observe women on trains and buses and sidewalks. I don't take pictures of them, but then again I don't need to, because I know there will be other hot women for me to observe later on.

All that changes when it's someone I know, or at least interact with. I have made it a point never to hit on any of the girls here, and if you go through all my posts in all my accounts, I think you'll find I've kept my word. I also know my behavior can be creepy, which is why I encourage people here to tell me when I'm creeping them out, and I'll knock it off. It's like... once I'm familiar with someone, then I don't want to make them feel uncomfortable, you know?

So, ironically, it's because this thought experiment involves Halforumites that I wouldn't be able to participate. If it was perfect strangers, my name would probably be the first on the list. But when it's people I know... well, I respect you guys too much to have sex with you.
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

GasBandit said:
I nor any of my male friends ever got a date they didn't initiate, nor a wife who proposed to them first. I know that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but it's still a rarity.
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Kati did not actually "propose" to me, but she was the one who initiated the conversation that led to us getting married. Does that count?

--Patrick
 
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