Dr. Doom
How pissed are you at what the Fantastic Four films did to him? I mean, seriously, Julian McMahon.
Fantastic Four films? What are you talking about? They never made any.
I agree. He did a solid job. But the rest of those movies were terrible, and I prefer to pretend they didn't exist.
He did the best he could, but I felt he was horribly miscast. Arrogant and calculating, yes, but without any of the presence and gravitas of a major villain like Doom.
To be fair, I don't know if Jessica Alba's poor performance was because of her acting ability, or simply very poor directing. I honestly haven't seen her in enough roles to get a judgment of her ability.
I suspect poor directing has more than a little to do with it. The first movie was on TV recently, and I watched some of it, and I was struck by how much it felt like movie hackery. It was the cinematography, or the acting, or the effects, or the script, or something, I don't know. It just felt cheap and bad throughout.
Poor directing. She's spoken out numerous times about how the director of the movies wanted her to just be a pretty face and basically refused to let her use her acting ability.
That there basically tells me that it wouldn't have mattered who was cast, you wouldn't have been satisfied with anyone.
That made zero sense. Just because I think he made a good villain but not a good Doom suddenly that means noone can do a good Doom? Your train of thought is strange. There's different ways to play a villain, McMahon did a good one, just not a Doom style one.
He was calculating, arrogant, manipulative, and self aggrandizing. I'm not really sure what books you were reading with Dr. Doom in them, but that pretty much is the character in a nutshell. The only thing that was extremely UN doom was the fact that they shoehorned in some love bullshit with Sue that is just... well, gross. But that's not the actor's fault, that's the writer's fault.
It's sounding like you guys want some sort of over the top hammyness that would look stupid as hell on film.
No, but someone who genuinely strikes fear into his subordinates with a regal lord style to him instead of some evil CEO style villainy.
See, there, you're blaming the actor for the shitty writing.
Considering this is in an Avengers thread about a sequel to a movie that did everything that "you can't do in a movie because it would look stupid as hell on film", yes. Doctor Doom chews the hell out of scenery and is chock full of over the top hammyness. That's a big part of what makes him the number one Marvel villain. Julian McMahon might has well been playing the Wizard.
By that logic Halle Berry was a great Catwoman, it's not her fault the script was shit.
I totally called that a page back.
Darn! Sorry about missing that.I totally called that a page back.
It's not like I have a monopoly on theories. Glad to see others think the same.
Having a Quicksilver without Magneto is going to be... weird.
You mean because the character is almost exclusively defined by his daddy issues?
