I know people who have had their stomachs pumped over milk, soda, juice, beer, wine etc. Would you stop drinking those?
Coca-Cola once had cocaine in it. This energy drink that had nicotine in it, is it legal in the united states and still sold here? Would you rule out an entire food group if one far-ended part of it had something strange in it but none of the others do?
Your opinion, totally valid. I hate 98% of the Energy Drinks I've tasted based on taste.
 
Energy drink junkies I knew who got their stomachs pumped, the fact that Monster (or another energy drink) has some nicotine as it says on the can(seriously) and the fact that I now remember drinking a couple in high school and they tasted like rancid whale bile to me. Course that last one is more opinion.
Monster doesn't have nicotine in it. I know you said you read it, but you need to check again. Nicotine is a controlled substance* in the United States. It is not legal to use it as an ingredient in food or beverage without controlling and limiting that substance to people over the age of 18. Here is a list of ingredients in Monster.

Glucose, Taurine, Caffeine, L-Carnitine. Other ingredients include carbonated water, natural flavors, sucrose, citric acid, Panax ginseng root extract, sodium citrate, inositol, color added, benzoic acid, sorbic acid, sucralose, guarana seed, cyanocobalamin, niacinamide, glucuronolactone, maltodextrin, sodium chloride, riboflavin and pyridoxine hydrochloride.


*it's not in the controlled substances list, but it can't be sold to anyone under 18. I can't remember the classification, it's late and I'm tired.
 
Dude, I can practically guarantee that the keyboard you are typing that post from has worse germs on it than a good many toilets.
So very true. keyboards, door handles, lightswitches, dish cloths, and of course, money, are absolutely disgusting. Basically anything that gets touched by hands a lot. Toilet seats are surprisingly germ free in comparison.
 
So very true. keyboards, door handles, lightswitches, dish cloths, and of course, money, are absolutely disgusting. Basically anything that gets touched by hands a lot. Toilet seats are surprisingly germ free in comparison.
Huh, Interesting. As much as I'm paranoid about food, I honestly am not that paranoid about germs. Is that weird? It feels weird.
 
Huh, Interesting. As much as I'm paranoid about food, I honestly am not that paranoid about germs. Is that weird? It feels weird.
You're obviously not that paranoid about food or you'd never eat. You say packaged food is bad? Have you heard the rumors/facts about how -fresh- meat is prepared or vegetables/fruits?

I'm telling you, writing off something because of some rumors you heard is a way to a short life.
 
In terms of fruit and meat, are you talkin' Wal-Mart food? Cos I don't trust them cos of rumors, but more or less cos of fact. The meat they make is made in low quality slaughter houses, and the reason their fruits and vegetables are so cheap? Because they are close to EXPIRING! Just disgusting.
 
I'm honestly curious, is there such a thing as a high quality slaughter house? Because my brain is telling me no. And I mean not like a butcher shop, I mean a massive slaughter house.

Also, fun fact, I used to work in a slaughter house if you can believe it.
 
In terms of fruit and meat, are you talkin' Wal-Mart food? Cos I don't trust them cos of rumors, but more or less cos of fact. The meat they make is made in low quality slaughter houses, and the reason their fruits and vegetables are so cheap? Because they are close to EXPIRING! Just disgusting.
I'm not talking about Wal-Mart.
 
I'm honestly curious, is there such a thing as a high quality slaughter house? Because my brain is telling me no. And I mean not like a butcher shop, I mean a massive slaughter house.

Also, fun fact, I used to work in a slaughter house if you can believe it.

My wife worked in a fish plant back in Newfoundland. Apparently the smell is... well... it's something to behold.
 
My wife worked in a fish plant back in Newfoundland. Apparently the smell is... well... it's something to behold.
Good gravy, I can't even imagine the smell a fish plant would produce. I was somewhat lucky that I wasn't on the kill floor, but in the freezer. So there was no smell. I was actually in the coldest section of the line and I used to cut the hunk of meat into different cuts of steaks.
 
I'm not talking about Wal-Mart.
Then no, I don't know what ya talkin' abrout. Bugs in cereal?
I'm honestly curious, is there such a thing as a high quality slaughter house? Because my brain is telling me no. And I mean not like a butcher shop, I mean a massive slaughter house.

Also, fun fact, I used to work in a slaughter house if you can believe it.
Basically a high quality slaughter house to me is one that has gloves, and they train the meat cutters before having them cut the meat. Basically just a sterile killing environment...if that makes any sense.
 
Then no, I don't know what ya talkin' abrout. Bugs in cereal?

Basically a high quality slaughter house to me is one that has gloves, and they train the meat cutters before having them cut the meat. Basically just a sterile killing environment...if that makes any sense.
Kinda hard to be sterile when killing animals comes into play. Most living things tend to shit and piss themselves when killed. I'm sure it's all washed..but I expect some amount of germ in everything I eat.
 
I could go in to detail about how a large meat plant goes from live animal to many cuts of meat, but I'll spare you.

I do think that...well, I'm pretty much not the wisest person ever, but I'm almost positive that meats must be USDA approved before being sold. So, meat quality will probably vary depending on where you purchase it from. I mean, Wal-mart wants to save money, so I'm betting their meat is inferior, but that also doesn't change the fact that it's USDA approved. Meh, I dunno. I think I'm just not a conspiracy type person.
 
You're missing the point entirely and I've spent way too many posts/time trying to explain it to you.
I get it, I get it, don't be paranoid about stuff. I'm just a worrywart, I guess that's why my friends call me Whiskers.
Kinda hard to be sterile when killing animals comes into play. Most living things tend to shit and piss themselves when killed. I'm sure it's all washed..but I expect some amount of germ in everything I eat.
Well true there would still be a little germs, but a good slaughter house at least makes sure to clean the killing floor and get rid of any meat that is clearly contaminated.

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LittleKagsin Wal-mart meat is probably the most inferior meat in the history of meat. Eatin' that stuff is a guaranteed bad idea.
 
I personally don't buy raw meats at Wal-mart, I just go to a different massive chain grocery store. :p I do feel loyal to my husband though, who works at Wal-mart, so we shop for groceries there quite often. (Plus the better his store does, the bigger bonus he gets every quarter...we like the munnies.)

And really, I'm not that discriminatory and would probably buy meat from them without batting an eyelash about it.
 
There is nothing WRONG with Wallyworld Meats, they are just a little weird. And they will be cut/ground for at least a day longer than competitors that actually have butchers.
 
Dude, you better stay away from margarine, I read on the internet that that stuff's only one molecule away from asphalt! Oh, and never ever pump gas, a study last year found there are far more germs on gas pump handles and ATMs than there are on just about any other surface. And WasabiPoptart can joke, but the sheer number of people who've died of dihydrogen monoxide poisoning is staggering!

But seriously, this Walmart meat is bad for you because they have "the worst slaughterhouse ever" thing is simply hilarious. Walmart buys their meat from the same slaughterhouses that all of the other grocery chains buy theirs from. To have their own slaughterhouse just for their stores would be ridiculously expensive to the point of being cost prohibitive. They can sell meat for lower prices because they buy in larger quantities and they're willing to take cuts that don't look quite as pretty as others or have a little more fat or gristle than the other stores are willing to buy and because the meat arrives in their outlets pre-packaged so they don't have to employ butchers at each individual store, like Safeway, Kroger, or Albertson's does. The meat even comes from the same herds of cows as the meat sold in other stores. Also, all slaughterhouses are required to have gloves available to their meat cutters, and as I'm sure LittleKagsin could probably tell you, while it's not possible to have a sterile kill floor (the mere fact that something's been killed on that floor makes it non-sterile as blood and other bodily fluids rush out of the body), they do have to stop production every set number of hours (usually 8) and rinse, wash, and sanitize the entire operation, the machines, the floor itself, the walls, the floor drains, the equipment, the knives, everything; with enough sanitizing chemicals to make a hospital look like a junkyard, before they're allowed to turn everything back on and get back to work.

And don't even get me started on the water quality of tap water. I know more things about tap water than you'd even want to consider, and things about most of the big national brands of bottled water that would curl your hair, from working in the water purification industry.

Now - please believe me when I say that I'm not talking about this stuff to make you feel bad in any way, or to make fun of you, or anything like that. I'd be willing to bet that no one here is. I just hope that you'll do a little more research about products (from reputable sources, not the internet) before you start making decisions about them. It might help you live a more comfortable life, or a more exciting life, or even just a slightly more relaxed, less paranoid one.
 
Don't avoid energy drinks because they're full of bull semen, avoid them because they're fucking terrible for you.
 
On a completely unrelated note, whichever paralegal is working for this law firm, they need to find a new damn job. I've received 8 faxes from them today, and not only is the list of documentation that they say they're sending me incomplete, but they can't even get all of that documentation to me. They've so far failed, in 8 attempts over the course of 2 hours, to get two documents to me.
 
And don't even get me started on the water quality of tap water. I know more things about tap water than you'd even want to consider, and things about most of the big national brands of bottled water that would curl your hair, from working in the water purification industry.
My brother in law used to work for a company that sold water purifiers. I learned some gross things. He won't drink any water now that is't Dasani, unless he knows the house is hooked up to a water purification system, because he saw the details of what is considered clean water for the different regions around here, and for various bottled water companies, and found it disgusting.
 
Yeah, I used to work in the high purity water field, the stuff that pharmaceutical companies use to run drug testing, and (oddly enough) the kind that circuit board manufacturers use to wash electronics with. Or, perhaps best put, the kind that you could stand in a pool of, and if someone dropped a high amperage power line in, you'd be perfectly fine.
 

GasBandit

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Yeah, I used to work in the high purity water field, the stuff that pharmaceutical companies use to run drug testing, and (oddly enough) the kind that circuit board manufacturers use to wash electronics with. Or, perhaps best put, the kind that you could stand in a pool of, and if someone dropped a high amperage power line in, you'd be perfectly fine.
Would drinking water of such incredible purity cause you to lose nutrients through osmosis?
 
Gared Cool, cool, but about the water my tap water LITERALLY has too much iron in it. That's not a conspiracy thing, my particular tap-water has more iron in it than a ren fair. They used to use the iron deposites up in Williamstown for Cannon balls and all that iron effects the water. And city water its not so much a health thing, more or less the bleached flavor tastes disgusting to me.
 
Would drinking water of such incredible purity cause you to lose nutrients through osmosis?
I've heard mixed messages on that. As employees of my former company, we were always told that drinking R/O DI water would strip the nutrients out of your body if you drank only that, constantly; but I've also seen water labeled as R/O DI sold in grocery stores by companies such as Penta. I do know that we used to remove systems from customer sites if they told us they were using it as drinking water, but then we also let the Boeing engineers keep one that they used to supply water to a coffee maker, under the guise that it was ok because they added something to the water before drinking it.[DOUBLEPOST=1350678657][/DOUBLEPOST]
Gared Cool, cool, but about the water my tap water LITERALLY has too much iron in it. That's not a conspiracy thing, my particular tap-water has more iron in it than a ren fair. They used to use the iron deposites up in Williamstown for Cannon balls and all that iron effects the water. And city water its not so much a health thing, more or less the bleached flavor tastes disgusting to me.
But see, that's the thing that's driving so many of us insane. You say the water LITERALLY has too much iron in it. If it LITERALLY had too much water in it, the city wouldn't be allowed to use that water source, and chlorination doesn't remove iron from water, so just because the water is highly chlorinated doesn't mean they're doing it to get rid of the iron.
 
But see, that's the thing that's driving so many of us insane. You say the water LITERALLY has too much iron in it. If it LITERALLY had too much water in it, the city wouldn't be allowed to use that water source, and chlorination doesn't remove iron from water, so just because the water is highly chlorinated doesn't mean they're doing it to get rid of the iron.
Actually my town suggests people use it only for things like bathing or swimming, unless its filtered its really not fit for consumption at all. See my town doesn't have a filtering plant, we just have wells and they have way too much iron in them. I'll give you the chlorination thing, but I still freaking hate the taste.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
When I was attending college in Socorro, New Mexico... well, let's say the taste of the tap water was a shock after being used to the cool, crisp taste of tap water in Colorado Springs, CO.
 
Actually my town suggests people use it only for things like bathing or swimming, unless its filtered its really not fit for consumption at all. See my town doesn't have a filtering plant, we just have wells and they have way too much iron in them. I'll give you the chlorination thing, but I still freaking hate the taste.
Ahh, see, a little bit of information goes a long way. By all means, if the town says they don't recommend drinking the water, and they don't have a filtration system set up for the water supply, then by all means, don't drink it. Though, one wonders just what the hell your town thinks it's doing, supplying water that's not fit for consumption.
 
Water Treatment is one of those things that most Americans just don't want to pay for anymore, with the advent of portable purification devices and bottled water being sold just about EVERYWHERE. They can justify it to themselves with those things, even it's costing them WAY MORE in the end.

I'm in a similar situation to Yoshi, though not as bad. The water here IS safe to drink, but it's usually disgusting because of how often them need to chlorinate it and there will be weeks where they tell us not to use it period.
 
Actually my town suggests people use it only for things like bathing or swimming, unless its filtered its really not fit for consumption at all. See my town doesn't have a filtering plant, we just have wells and they have way too much iron in them. I'll give you the chlorination thing, but I still freaking hate the taste.
What town are you in? Federal regulations have lots of requirements, as do State regulations. It's something I do work on as a second job. What you are describing is you are pumping your own well water with only basic safety measures.
 
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