[Movies] The Upcoming Movies Trailer Thread

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The Conjuring was great. Not sure about this one. It's really odd for no one to think something's wrong with a doll that looks like that. For that early scene in The Conjuring, it's fine, but for an entire movie, I don't know. Some of the stuff in the trailer also seems to conflict with what was explained about the doll in the other movie. But it's just one scene in the trailer, so I don't know.
 

Dave

Staff member
I feel like he wanted to parody The Human Centipede with something ridiculous like this, and maybe it's just the trailer, but it plays it a little too straight in some scenes, which makes the goofy shit really awkward and not funny.
Everyone said that the Cabin in the Woods looked stupid and trite from the trailers. Look how that turned out. I'll give it a shot because Kevin Smith.

And Haley Joel Osment. What the hell happened to you, man?!?
 
Everyone said that the Cabin in the Woods looked stupid and trite from the trailers. Look how that turned out. I'll give it a shot because Kevin Smith.

And Haley Joel Osment. What the hell happened to you, man?!?
Yeah, time has not been kind to Haley Joel Osment.

Also, looks like no mention in the trailer of Johnny Depp being in it.
 
Everyone said that the Cabin in the Woods looked stupid and trite from the trailers. Look how that turned out. I'll give it a shot because Kevin Smith.
True. Joss Whedon is a better director than Kevin Smith, but yeah, there was really no way to tell what kind of movie Cabin in the Woods was without knowing about it and really watching how it did what it did.

And Haley Joel Osment. What the hell happened to you, man?!?
Wait, what? What?! That was him?! Did not recognize.
 
Trailers are often the result of the studios trying to appeal to a certain target audience. A lot of times they miss the mark.
 

Dave

Staff member
I did a huge spit take and eyes bug out and double take at this sentence
Why? It's true. Where is Joss Whedon's "Jersey Girl" or "Chasing Amy" or "Mallrats"? (By the way, I like Mallrats, but it's not a good movie.)

Whedon's stuff is fairly unique, always well done, and tells an awesome story. He blows Kevin Smith out of the water. I'd say that Kevin Smith's only real success as a director was Dogma. Sure he's successful, but his movies actually suck.
 
Why? It's true. Where is Joss Whedon's "Jersey Girl" or "Chasing Amy" or "Mallrats"? (By the way, I like Mallrats, but it's not a good movie.)

Whedon's stuff is fairly unique, always well done, and tells an awesome story. He blows Kevin Smith out of the water. I'd say that Kevin Smith's only real success as a director was Dogma. Sure he's successful, but his movies actually suck.
Dogma is actually a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Look at any scene where something physical is going on. The angles are flat-on like you'd do for a conversation, the movement is awkward. He's a fine writer, but he doesn't know how to tell people how to move or how to frame a shot for much besides people talking. And he does that well, but if you're going to film stuff beyond just talking, you need to do better. Quentin Tarantino knew this and when he was working on Kill Bill, he brought on someone to supervise him. Only then did the supervising guy (I cannot remember who he was, might have been another director) told him "Why am I here? You already know what you're doing." He would not have said this to Kevin Smith.

(Note: I'm not putting Joss Whedon over Tarantino. But ...)

Look at Whedon's stuff. He knows how to frame a conversation. He knows how to frame an action shot. He transitions well between these. When people need to move, it's clear they've been given prompts and ideas about how to do this. Whedon's also had to work with people who aren't his friends and can't just wing it that way. Direction is about bringing the script to life, cinematography, organizing the production, working with the actors, capturing the atmosphere you want. I would never say Joss Whedon is a perfect director, or a perfect writer, but he's a better director than Kevin Smith. Hell, Kevin Smith admits he's not that great a director. He knows it, which is why for a while he worked primarily in his wheelhouse, only stepping out of it for stuff like Dogma, and even then only slightly.

Side-note, I thought Chasing Amy was supposed to be Kevin Smith's best movie? I haven't seen it, but that's what I've been told by many people.
 

Dave

Staff member
Really? That's the first time I've heard that. I was excited to see it.
When the first trailer came out everyone thought it was another cliche "kids go into woods and die" kind of movie. It grossed only $5.5 million in the first week, but earned $40+ million after it finished it's run because it stayed in theaters until July. Thinnk about that. It opened in April and stayed in theaters until July. How many movies stay in theaters for 3 months? Hardly any. What happened was critical acclaim and word of mouth. I had never seen a commercial for it before its release because it was originally supposed to be out 2 years earlier, but was shelved and delayed multiple times. There was hardly any marketing for it other than critics and nerds who are Whedon fans.

Frankly, the fact it got released at all is kind of amazing considering all the crap behind it.
 
Stop saying "everyone." It wasn't everyone. It was never EVERYONE. That's overgeneralizing.

Also, the trailer gave away the big surprise, so it wasn't just a "kids go into the woods and die" kind of movie. I remember several reviews saying "Don't watch the trailer if you don't want to be spoiled!"
 

Dave

Staff member
Side-note, I thought Chasing Amy was supposed to be Kevin Smith's best movie? I haven't seen it, but that's what I've been told by many people.
I thought Chasing Amy was painful to watch. "My male friend is in love with me and I'm upset my girlfriend who has lesbian tendencies had a threesome with two guys in high school. The only solution is to have a threeway!" Ugh. Nobody in Kevin Smith's movies acts with any modicum of intelligence. Except for that one moment where Silent Bob gives his line of dialogue that makes everything seem so in perspective.

I love Kevin Smith's movies, but they are NOT good.
 
I think Clerks and Clerks 2 are great movies. I enjoyed the other Jersey movies, too. Clerks and Clerks 2 are especially endearing to me as I think they really capture the feel of being stuck in a dead-end rut and how hard it can be to push yourself to get out of it.
 
Stop saying "everyone." It wasn't everyone. It was never EVERYONE. That's overgeneralizing.

Also, the trailer gave away the big surprise, so it wasn't just a "kids go into the woods and die" kind of movie. I remember several reviews saying "Don't watch the trailer if you don't want to be spoiled!"
The twist was given away in the trailers, but you couldn't really tell the movie was going to be funny until you saw how it did those things.

I thought Chasing Amy was painful to watch. "My male friend is in love with me and I'm upset my girlfriend who has lesbian tendencies had a threesome with two guys in high school. The only solution is to have a threeway!" Ugh. Nobody in Kevin Smith's movies acts with any modicum of intelligence. Except for that one moment where Silent Bob gives his line of dialogue that makes everything seem so in perspective.

I love Kevin Smith's movies, but they are NOT good.
I don't think Kevin Smith's movies are generally bad. They're competently made. Many of them lack plots for the most part, but not all movies have to have plots.

I can't say I've dissected them that well though overall. Dogma is the only one I've seen several times, so it's the only one I can really give a good critique of, and it is sort of atypical from Kevin Smith's other well-known movies (has a plot, action scenes, theological dialogue). It's actually a good movie for seeing both his strengths and his weaknesses. Clerks is as Cynicism said; I've seen that a couple times. All the others that I've seen have only been once, so maybe they do suck? I watched them, had some laughs with friends, and didn't watch them again, so you may be more on the mark than me.
 
Also, it should be noted that I'm not a big Kevin Smith fan and think he's a bad director. And Whedon is just worse.

And his "Jersey Girl" is Serenity. If you're not a drooling fanboy of Firefly (and I actually am, I love every episode of that show), it's embarrassing on multiple levels.

Also I liked Much Ado About nothing more or less, but it's not really well shot. You can jump in and say it's part of the micro-budget charm, but Clerks is WAY more micro-budget and manages to do a couple interesting things.
 

Dave

Staff member
The Mad Max movies have always made me go "Whaaa-?"

Here's a bunch of people who are savages, constantly searching for water and fuel...yet they drive everywhere at high rates of speed through deserts. And they never run out of ammo.

I know, it's a movie.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
And they never run out of ammo.

I know, it's a movie.
Actually, that's not an accurate description. There's still lots of ammo in the first mad max because it's not long after the great collapse, and there are still vestiges of societal order.

By Road Warrior, ammo is so scarce Max goes through the majority of the movie threatning with an unloaded shotgun, and then the first shells he finds for it turn out to be duds. He later is gifted a handful of shells by a woman who had been keeping them for a special occasion. But abarring a few other exceptions (particularly one engine-block piercing nazi magnum), most of the people in the movie use improvised bladed/thrown weapons, though the well/refinery has a defensive flamethrower.

And in Beyond Thunderdome, Max doesn't even have a car anymore, much less a gun. The "Last of the V8 Interceptors" was destroyed in Road Warrior, but he probably could have gotten another car. But even at the start of BT, he's in an animal-drawn cart. Though the autogyro captain has inexplicably upgraded to an airplane, I'll give you that one.


But this new movie looks sort of an amalgamation of RW and BT - it's got the "sheperded band of innocents" of Beyond Thunderdome combined with the highway tanker battle of Road Warrior.
 

Dave

Staff member
Actually, that's not an accurate description. There's still lots of ammo in the first mad max because it's not long after the great collapse, and there are still vestiges of societal order.

By Road Warrior, ammo is so scarce Max goes through the majority of the movie threatning with an unloaded shotgun, and then the first shells he finds for it turn out to be duds. He later is gifted a handful of shells by a woman who had been keeping them for a special occasion. But abarring a few other exceptions (particularly one engine-block piercing nazi magnum), most of the people in the movie use improvised bladed/thrown weapons, though the well/refinery has a defensive flamethrower.

And in Beyond Thunderdome, Max doesn't even have a car anymore, much less a gun. The "Last of the V8 Interceptors" was destroyed in Road Warrior, but he probably could have gotten another car. But even at the start of BT, he's in an animal-drawn cart. Though the autogyro captain has inexplicably upgraded to an airplane, I'll give you that one.


But this new movie looks sort of an amalgamation of RW and BT - it's got the "sheperded band of innocents" of Beyond Thunderdome combined with the highway tanker battle of Road Warrior.
Guess it's been too long since I've seen them. I can't say I'm a fan of the series in any event, which probably has something to do with my ignorance.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Oh, and crossbows. Crossbows everywhere. How could I have forgotten the crossbows?

One bit of continuity realism that impressed me was how in the first film he was shot in the knee, and though it's never referenced overtly again, you still see in the second movie he's got a very substantial knee brace, and in the third apparently the brace has been lost but a replacement has been improvised with tight bandaging.

Also, Master Blaster was the first Tyrion Lannister.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
This you knows. I be First Tracker. Times past count I done the Tell. But it weren't me that tumbled Walker. It was Savannah. So it's only right that she take the Tell. This ain't one body's story. It's the story of us all. We got it mouth-to-mouth. You got to listen it and 'member. 'Cause what you hears today you got to tell the birthed tomorrow. I'm looking behind us now, across the count of time, down the long haul, into history back. I sees the end what were the start. It's Pox-Eclipse, full of pain! And out of it were birthed crackling dust and fearsome time. It were full-on winter, and Mr. Dead chasing them all. But one, he couldn't catch. That were Captain Walker. He gathers up a gang, takes to the air, and flies to the sky! So they left their homes, said bidey-bye to the high-scrapers, and what were left of the knowing, they left behind. Some say the wind just stoppered. Others reckon it were a gang called "Turbulence." And after the wreck some had been jumped by Mr. Dead, but some had got the luck, and it leads them here. One look and they's got the hots for it. They word it "Planet Earth." And they says, "We don't need the knowing. We can live here." Time counts and keeps counting. They gets missing what they had. They get so lonely for the high-scrapers and the video. And they does the pictures so they'd 'member all the knowing that they lost. 'Member this?



Tomorrow-morrow Land!

'Member this?


The River of Light!

'Member this?



Skyraft!

'Member this?



Captain Walker!

'Member this?



Mrs. Walker!


Then Captain Walker picked them of an age and good for a long haul. They counted twenty, and that were them. The great leaving.

"Rescue party departed at first light led by Flight Captain G.L. Walker. May God have mercy on our souls."

They said bidey-bye to them what they'd birthed. And from the nothing they looked back, and Captain Walker hollered, "Wait, one of us will come."

"Wait, one of us will come."

And somebody did come.



Walker! We's heartful to you, Captain Walker.

We's ready now. Take us home.
 
That test footage does show the potential for a Deadpool movie. If only the execs stopped dragging their feet on the project and get stuff moving!
 
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