Yeah, it still doesn't really mean anything. You can spoof a filedate on an image like that easy. If anything, the extended metadata makes me more suspicious. 8 seconds from creation of file to final product? Smells pretty funny.
The Zoe Quinn sex-for-reviews scandal
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Yeah, it still doesn't really mean anything. You can spoof a filedate on an image like that easy. If anything, the extended metadata makes me more suspicious. 8 seconds from creation of file to final product? Smells pretty funny.
That's kinda what I thought, too. But because it was also misspelled, I also assumed it was puffery.
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This page grew by over two pages while I was at work and I don't feel like I'd have missed much by skipping them. Nothing has changed.
In fact, the longer this goes on, the less it seems to matter. GamerGaters aren't going to make any headway in anything aside from terrorizing people--no change in the gaming industry will come of anything they've said or done.
In fact, the longer this goes on, the less it seems to matter. GamerGaters aren't going to make any headway in anything aside from terrorizing people--no change in the gaming industry will come of anything they've said or done.
GasBandit
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That's right, women! Beware my boogery! Boogedy boogedy boo!
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A sort of "state of the hashtag" report on techraptor.
Highlights -
Highlights -
- Huffpo piece interviewing "3 strong women of gamergate"
- Brianna Wu accuses interviewer of doing a "hit piece" on her when he asks actual researched questions instead of just giving her an open mic and taking a coffee break
- Newsweek publishes excoriating article on gamergate, but their own graphic shows only ~5% of #gamergate tagged tweets are actually negative in nature
- $100,000 raised for charity
- New ethics policies in place at Escapist, Gamespot and Gamesided
- Pro- and Anti-GG twitterers AND even 8channers cooperating to get harrassing accounts banned and squelch doxxing attempts
- Gawker not only lost Intel as an advertising client, but also BWM, Mercedes, Adobe and Jaguar... and Gawker's still advocating bullying.
GasBandit
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That's a mighty fuzzy line there.
Honestly, I just adblock on sites I feel don't deserve my revenue... and this feels like the same thing. If they thought they had a case, Archive would already be shut down. The fact that it isn't tells me they feel it's ether not worth the trouble or they won't win.
Anita Sarkeesian is going to be the interview guest on tonight's Colbert Report. Considering how Colbert likes to prod at his guests by misunderstanding or altering their arguments ... I'm really curious how this is going to go, not just on the show, but in the ripple effect of GamerGate since that's allegedly what the interview's going to focus on.
Ripple effect is putting it strongly; I just don't know how to come down from that to describe "what becomes the stuff on that Twitter thing."
Ripple effect is putting it strongly; I just don't know how to come down from that to describe "what becomes the stuff on that Twitter thing."
^^^^
This.
Due to the fact that pirate bay is still alive and well, I don't think this point really speaks to the legality. It's tough to shut infringement websites period.
GasBandit
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So what you're saying is, all they really need to do is archive ("copy") the ENTIRE html, then dynamically apply adblock filters to their own HTML before sending it to the browser, and they're in the clear?
Or are you also saying archive sites like wayback are illegal?
In which case what recourse is there for archiving web content that is subject to change/deletion, either through time or more nefarious motivations?
GasBandit
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But what's your opinion on sites that archive content without ads? That's the REAL cutting question right now.
That's disappointing.
Oh, not at all. He just usually prods his guests and I wanted to see whether Sarkeesian would stick to her message or go for the rant. But not everyone is a Republican politican and apparently there's nothing to see.
Granted, I haven't watched one of his interviews in years and the format may have changed.
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Except when it makes points people of pedestrian intelligence agree with, then it's all "Hurr durr idn't it sad how daily show/colbert's better news show than faux nooz/cnn ah get all muh nooz from Jon Stewart/Steven Colbert becuz I R saavy media consoomer"
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Having just watched it, this is a WILDLY inaccurate appraisal of the interview.
GasBandit
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Did colbert not make cracks about how "I'm not ashamed of my gaming hobby, that's why I do it in my basement" and "Well, I like boobies, you don't want to take away the boobs, do you?"
It was an echo chamber with an extra side of sarcasm.
Have you ever watched the show before? He treated her like any other guest.
Why do you even care anyway? Stephen Colbert is the antithesis of everything you stand for. Your displeasure is not unexpected.
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So I'm only supposed to speak up when something happens I like/agree with? If by "treated her like any other guest" you mean "adopted the persona of an easily defeated, ridiculous strawman caricature," yes, I agree. Also, I think you've forgotten some of the things I stand for.[DOUBLEPOST=1414696129,1414695886][/DOUBLEPOST]The scariest Jack-O-Lantern of the season!
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You know, I don't see feminists as wanting to take over gaming. I see them as wanting female developers, female designers, and well-done female characters to be allowed to be part of gaming without harassment and hatred. And I don't see why that's a problem. Guys lose nothing from it, gaming loses nothing from it. Inclusion adds, it doesn't take away. When Lara Croft was redesigned to be less cartoonish, guys and gaming didn't lose anything. When Amy Hennig (formerly of Crystal Dynamics and Naughty Dog) did Legacy of Kain, Jak & Daxter, and Uncharted, gaming got three great series, it didn't lose anything. Mirror's Edge didn't hurt gaming by having a female protagonist who was dressed appropriately for parkour and who was more athletic than conventionally sexy.
And you know, if some indie developer wants to make a game with bigender, xim/xer pronouns and all that tumblr bullshit? You don't have to play it. That game existing doesn't keep you from sinking another 50 hours into Team Fortress 2 or Saints Row or Space Engineers or Duke Nukem if you like.
Letting more people participate in gaming is a good thing. Threats of death and rape for having a different point of view are bad.
I think it's kind of weird that when one guy sends a death threat to Gabe Newell, he is immediately banned from Steam, his product shunted to obscurity, and absolutely no sympathy for his stupid ass, but when dozens of people send death threats to Jennifer Hepler, or Brianna Wu, or Anita Sarkeesian, or Zoe Quinn, or Felicia Day, there's an immediate "Oh, they're probably faking for attention," and "well what did they expect?" reaction. I find that weird and kind of unsettling.
And you know, if some indie developer wants to make a game with bigender, xim/xer pronouns and all that tumblr bullshit? You don't have to play it. That game existing doesn't keep you from sinking another 50 hours into Team Fortress 2 or Saints Row or Space Engineers or Duke Nukem if you like.
Letting more people participate in gaming is a good thing. Threats of death and rape for having a different point of view are bad.
I think it's kind of weird that when one guy sends a death threat to Gabe Newell, he is immediately banned from Steam, his product shunted to obscurity, and absolutely no sympathy for his stupid ass, but when dozens of people send death threats to Jennifer Hepler, or Brianna Wu, or Anita Sarkeesian, or Zoe Quinn, or Felicia Day, there's an immediate "Oh, they're probably faking for attention," and "well what did they expect?" reaction. I find that weird and kind of unsettling.
It's the usual hypocrisy with the difference between men and women. Hell, you look at the women coming forward about Jiann Ghomeshi. The first thing many people said was, "They're probably looking for money" or "They're using his fame to become famous themselves." It's a double standard. Chris Kluwe wrote things about GamerGate that were ten times worse than anything Sarkeesian, Quinn, Wu ever said, but he was completely ignored.
And you're right. None of these women or SJWs want to destroy gaming or change it completely into something unrecognizable from what it is today. They want it to involve and at the very least, include some of the things that they're discussing. Just making gaming - both in its creators and its content - more diversified. Given how little originality is in gaming these days - at least AAA gaming - I'm absolutely down for that.
In the meantime, not even Downfall Hitler can help jumping into this.
And you're right. None of these women or SJWs want to destroy gaming or change it completely into something unrecognizable from what it is today. They want it to involve and at the very least, include some of the things that they're discussing. Just making gaming - both in its creators and its content - more diversified. Given how little originality is in gaming these days - at least AAA gaming - I'm absolutely down for that.
In the meantime, not even Downfall Hitler can help jumping into this.
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There are some who identify as such who do want to dictate what is and is not acceptable in gaming, for example, Anita Sarkeesian. Otherwise, the content of her videos would focus on video games with positive feminist messages as opposed to pointing at what she believes to be sexist or misogynist content in existing IPs.
If that's all it was, I wouldn't have a problem either.
None of those have been cited as problems.
Here's where you start to go wrong. SJW activists are not content to only make "their own separate game" to advance their causes (in fact sometimes they don't even bother with that at all), they also (or sometimes only) exert themselves to change or stop aspects of other games they find unacceptable. It's all well and good to tell me "If you like games with boobplates nobody's stopping you from playing them" except SJWs are doing exactly that - see my previous point about Kingdom of Amalur's infamous "boobplate" and how it got swapped out, for example. Not a month goes by that you don't hear someone decrying "this video game character is dressed too sexy, I don't like it, change it!" Furthermore, this claim cuts both ways. I could just as easily say "If SJWs don't want to play AAA titles that they claim objectify or oversexualize women, they don't have to, they can play they games THEY want to play and leave the SexBloodTittyFight franchises alone." But that won't do, because it's not enough for these people to add their own wants to the marketplace, they must "fight misogyny" in existing IPs and whatnot. They demonstrably want to change games by eliminating content they find objectionable. (Cough cough Bayonetta)
Again, quite right. Complete agreement.
I don't know that anybody said Felicia Day was "faking for attention," and in fact /r/kotakuinaction/ (one of, if not the largest, pro-gamergate subreddit) soundly condemned that (and all) doxxing, but that's picking nits. The real issue with this statement is that it is a very different situation. Note that the devs who said they wanted to kill Gabe Newell used their real names, and are not under arrest or in any other way stopped from still saying they desire Gaben's untimely demise, their game is simply no longer available on steam and people justly have changed how they consider them in accordance with their actions.
If Sarkeesian or Quinn et al were in a business arrangement with the people who have threatened them, it would also have only been logical for that business arrangement to have been severed. If those sending the threats were true proponents of gamergate, they would identify themselves as do many of those who respond under the #notyourshield tag whenever someone breaks out the old "only cishet white male neckbeards in gamergate" saw.
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Again, if this is really about integrity in journalism, why even bring Sarkesian into it at all. She's not even a journalist, she's a blogger.
I mean, other than GBs obvious giant rageboner because she dares to imply that sexism in games may actually be detrimental to women in general.
Hint: studies show that negative depictions of women in media are.
I also love the assertion that only SJW people only ever demand changes in gaming. Because gamers are such bastions of stability and are never ever demanding...
I mean, other than GBs obvious giant rageboner because she dares to imply that sexism in games may actually be detrimental to women in general.
Hint: studies show that negative depictions of women in media are.
I also love the assertion that only SJW people only ever demand changes in gaming. Because gamers are such bastions of stability and are never ever demanding...
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The money trail connects her to other principals in the story.
So suddenly the assertion changes from "they don't want to take anything away" to "everybody makes demands."
Yeah, I never got the accusations that she "scammed" anyone with her Kickstarter. The reason she got that much money was because of the PR shitstorm that was created by all the over-recations and abusive comments by idiotic gamers. I've yet to see a single person actually say, "I donated money to her cause and feel ripped off!" There's no scam. People donated to her Kickstarter because they wanted to. I hadn't donated personally, but if I did, I would've honestly said I'm getting exactly what I paid for: a video series that criticises video games from a feminist perspective.