WoW: New Race Leak

[ScytheRexx]

This is for all my fellow WoW players that may not have seen this. This was discovered by Handclaw, a poster on one of the lore boards I visit for WarCraft.

It seems while he was datamining the new PTR, he noticed some new textures were added to the game. They were new "masks" for the Hallow's End yearly world event. In case those don't remember, these masks are just flat models with the face texture of one of the playable races stretched over it, both male and female. Here is what Handclaw found.

Seems we will be having Goblins and Worgen next expansion.

 

[Shannow]

people have been datamining shit every patch. take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Singularity.EXE]

Ye Gods, I would play that game again so hard if I could play either. I've been saying since Pre-BC that the next race should be these two specifically. I hope it be true.

 

Looks like Fiona from Shrek.

 

[ScytheRexx]

people have been datamining poop every patch. take it with a grain of salt.

Not sure what point you are making? Obviously people Datamine every patch, that does not make these textures any less valid as a race leak.
Just an FYI, but Blizzard only makes Hallow's End masks based on playable races, they added four in BC (BE Male, BE Female, Draenei Male, Draenei Female) in the main patch before the expansion was released, these just leaked far earlier.

 

[Shakey]

They could just be masks though. Goblins are pretty neutral so I wouldn't think they would make a good playable race.

 

[elph]

Looks like Fiona from Shrek.

I agree. I see more of an Ogre here then a Goblin.

Either way, it would be cool to play a worgen, but the race never made the game for me. The mechanics did. And if they make these, you're still doing the same thing as any other races are.

I can see them doing this as only a Halloween event thing. Having a mask of 2 of the most hyped races doesn't mean they're going to make them playable. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Pandarien mask soon too.

 

[Shannow]

people have been datamining poop every patch. take it with a grain of salt.

Not sure what point you are making? Obviously people Datamine every patch, that does not make these textures any less valid as a race leak.
Just an FYI, but Blizzard only makes Hallow's End masks based on playable races, they added four in BC (BE Male, BE Female, Draenei Male, Draenei Female) in the main patch before the expansion was released, these just leaked far earlier.

But liek was pointed out, these could be used for anything. i take what people data mine out of patches with a grain of salt, becasue they may or may not be used, or used in a completely different way than expected. Thats all.

 

[Gadzooks]

Blizzard knows everyone datamines the shit out of their patches. Why would they leak something like this so soon, when we know theres still gonna be a 3.3, maybe 3.4, and they haven't announced a new expansion yet?

They could simply be new masks going away from the norm of "only playable races". Since the past 2 years have been exactly the same for the holiday, has it not?

 

[Shannow]

Exactly. it could be playable, or it may not be. Hence why I said...take it with a grain of salt.

 

[elph]

They could also be reward masks based on achievements / quests.

 

[Shannow]

yup.

 

[ScytheRexx]

You guys don't seem to be understanding me.

Right now, only 20 masks exist in the game. All of them are of playable races. The last time masks were added to the game was in BC, when they added the Blood Elf and Draenei masks. They have dozens and dozens of creatures they can turn into masks, like Ghouls, Skeletons, Abominations, Gnolls, even Ogres. They don't add them because the purpose of the mask during the event is to only represent the playables, so thus why these masks are pretty much a leak.

This would also explain the "Worgen Scandal" that happened a few weeks ago also, in which Blizzard learned a Worgen was tamable by hunters and immediately did everything they could to remove it from usefulness. They have not done that for any other bugged pet, including the ghost wolf, AQ slime, etc... The Worgen however was a very big deal for some reason.

Could these masks be just for the event? I don't see why. Goblin have nothing to do with Hallow's End, and the Worgen "textures" are obviously new and unique, something Blizzard would not do for simple masks. Blizzard didn't even make female Tuskarr or Taunka this expansion, I don't think they would make a female Worgen just for a random face mask people would see once a year.

 

[Shannow]

We completely understand you. We get it. We read what you put an comprehended it.

And all we are saying is that it may not be, and it could be anything else at this point. No purpose in flat out saying "This is the new race!" at this time from a little data mining. Good to see that it might be, but it also may not be.

 

[elph]

You guys don't seem to be understanding me.

Right now, only 20 masks exist in the game. All of them are of playable races. The last time masks were added to the game was in BC, when they added the Blood Elf and Draenei masks. They have dozens and dozens of creatures they can turn into masks, like Ghouls, Skeletons, Abominations, Gnolls, even Ogres. They don't add them because the purpose of the mask during the event is to only represent the playables, so thus why these masks are pretty much a leak.

This would also explain the "Worgen Scandal" that happened a few weeks ago also, in which Blizzard learned a Worgen was tamable by hunters and immediately did everything they could to remove it from usefulness. They have not done that for any other bugged pet, including the ghost wolf, AQ slime, etc... The Worgen however was a very big deal for some reason.

Could these masks be just for the event? I don't see why. Goblin have nothing to do with Hallow's End, and the Worgen "textures" are obviously new and unique, something Blizzard would not do for simple masks. Blizzard didn't even make female Tuskarr or Taunka this expansion, I don't think they would make a female Worgen just for a random face mask people would see once a year.

We're understanding what you're saying. However, many things Blizzard has "done / never done" have now changed. Because of that, faith in a simple 'this texture was found' doesn't exsist. They have to keep adding to the events, or the events get dull. So that alone would explain the texture for the masks. The Worgen pet thing could just as easily be that they don't want worgen pets out there. It adds a new supposed class of pet, where the ghost wolf, AQ slime, and few others really don't.

 

[Shakey]

But I don't want another green race :angry:

 

[ScytheRexx]

I will give you the fact I don't know with 100% certainty, and that things can change. The evidence and the precedent point to them being playable however, so I think for now we can assume they are more then likely playable, rather then not.

They could also be reward masks based on achievements / quests.

They are marked in the models "Halloween" meaning they are for Hallow's End. Blizzard "finalized" Hallow's End last year, so it will not be quest or achievement rewards, nor would they make sense are such rewards. (Goblin's have nothing to do with Hallow's End.)

We're understanding what you're saying. However, many things Blizzard has "done / never done" have now changed. Because of that, faith in a simple 'this texture was found' doesn't exsist. They have to keep adding to the events, or the events get dull. So that alone would explain the texture for the masks.

Not really, because Goblin's have nothing to do with Hallow's End.

The Worgen pet thing could just as easily be that they don't want worgen pets out there. It adds a new supposed class of pet, where the ghost wolf, AQ slime, and few others really don't.

Actually it didn't. The Worgen was representing the "wolf" class of pet and took all the wolf talents, skills, and stats, it never added a new class of pet to the game, and did nothing to alter that gameplay. The only thing was cosmetic, but Blizzard felt that cosmetic change needed to be removed completely, something they had never done for something that was merely cosmetic.

 

[Shannow]

Are you really arguing this over some data mining? Wow.

 

[Shakey]

Are you really arguing this over some data mining? Wow.

Are you really arguing this over some data mining? Wow.

 

[Shannow]

I know right.

But its more someone being so adamant about it that has me surprised, than anything.

 

[Shakey]

I know right.

But its more someone being so adamant about it that has me surprised, than anything.

And yet you can't let it go either...

 

[elph]

Other things Blizzard has *never* done...

Allowed name changes.
Allowed server transfers.
Allowed server transfers to PVP.
Allowed faction changes.
Mounts before level 40.
Mounts before level 30.
Flight before 60.

I see what you're saying, and you are far more knowledgeable in it then I am (I haven't even played the game in 6 months). I'm just saying, Blizzard has "never" done many things with WoW, so my faith that it will be more then just masks, isn't there.

Also, on the note of "goblins have nothing to do with the event." Neither do, humans, orcs, trolls, dwarves, elves, draenei, gnomes, or tauren (other then being another intelligent race with culture). The idea that Blizzard finalized the event maybe true as well, but I point up to to the list of things Blizzard has 'never' done.

Sure, the direction does point that these may indeed be future added races. But then, let's look at what that expansion may be (assuming they're not added in another content patch). In what kind of expansion could we add these 2 as playable races? The worgen storyline is always being played with, so we can accept that they'll be outcasts. But then which side will get which? Goblins lead to more to the horde then to the alliance, and the alliance doesn't really have a 'furry beast' race just as the horde didn't have a 'pretty one' before BC. Also, the horde needs a short people race in lieu of getting the gnomes.

Blizzcon is right around the corner, and it would be likely that they would throw a hint to start gossip on something to do with WoW just before the event. This could be that very clue. Blizzard has a lot of projects (SC2, D3, Unknown new MMO) coming up and they still need to keep interest in WoW.

 

[Chazwozel]

people have been datamining poop every patch. take it with a grain of salt.

Not sure what point you are making? Obviously people Datamine every patch, that does not make these textures any less valid as a race leak.
Just an FYI, but Blizzard only makes Hallow's End masks based on playable races, they added four in BC (BE Male, BE Female, Draenei Male, Draenei Female) in the main patch before the expansion was released, these just leaked far earlier.

What makes you think they're not tossing the old formula of 'playable race' masks for something like goblins and worgen? You gotta admit it makes sense for a Halloween event. The Goblins sell tons of shit every holiday. Werewolves and Halloween go together like peanut butter and jelly.

You said it yourself. Blizzard threw in the BE and Dren masks when BC came out. Why would they put new race masks into a patch and not the patch before the new expansion?

Shannow is 100% correct, you can't make any assumptions based off data mining.

 

[Shannow]

And yet you can't let it go either...

And you keep bringing it up. Weird.

But, as Elph says, jsut wait for Blizzcon, and stuff will be hinted/shown then. May jsut be the new races. or they may not be.

 

[Chazwozel]

I know right.

But its more someone being so adamant about it that has me surprised, than anything.

And yet you can't let it go either...

I believe he did let it go until Scythx wrote that novel about why his theory based on datamined crap is correct.

-- Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:39 am --

Actually it didn't. The Worgen was representing the "wolf" class of pet and took all the wolf talents, skills, and stats, it never added a new class of pet to the game, and did nothing to alter that gameplay. The only thing was cosmetic, but Blizzard felt that cosmetic change needed to be removed completely, something they had never done for something that was merely cosmetic.

Worgen are humanoids. I thought you couldn't have humanoid pets?


And while I'd love to see the Greymane Wall open up a new section in an expansion, I hate the idea of Worgen as a playable class. I'd download WoW back in a heartbeat to play drunken Pandas.

 

[elph]

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA4_Or0IpBs:1ovvrlwk][/youtube:1ovvrlwk]

-- Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:43 am --

Actually it didn't. The Worgen was representing the "wolf" class of pet and took all the wolf talents, skills, and stats, it never added a new class of pet to the game, and did nothing to alter that gameplay. The only thing was cosmetic, but Blizzard felt that cosmetic change needed to be removed completely, something they had never done for something that was merely cosmetic.

Worgen are humanoids. I thought you couldn't have humanoid pets?


And while I'd love to see the Greymane Wall open up a new section in an expansion, I hate the idea of Worgen as a playable class. I'd download WoW back in a heartbeat to play drunken Pandas.

That's the thought I had with the 'supposed' new pet type. But it can be argued that like a druid, worgens are shapechangers and when in animal form can be considered beasts. I *think* hunters can beast scare them, but I'm not 100% since I've never tried with my hunter.

 

[Shakey]

And yet you can't let it go either...

And you keep bringing it up. Weird.

But, as Elph says, jsut wait for Blizzcon, and stuff will be hinted/shown then. May jsut be the new races. or they may not be.

:humph:

 

[Shannow]

:humph:

Its okay. I still you.


Hug it out?

 

[Piotyr]

I'm not sure there's an appropriate way to describe the chasm that requires being jumped across to reach the conclusion of "New Race Leak" from "Blizzard has added worgen and goblin masks to Hallow's End".

 

[ScytheRexx]

Also, on the note of "goblins have nothing to do with the event." Neither do, humans, orcs, trolls, dwarves, elves, draenei, gnomes, or tauren (other then being another intelligent race with culture). The idea that Blizzard finalized the event maybe true as well, but I point up to to the list of things Blizzard has 'never' done.

The issue with the races you mentioned above is they are all playable, which is the point of the masks. Goblins, and NPCs, have nothing to do with the event, they don't even sell stuff during it like they do with Winter's Veil. If Blizzard does decide to make NPC masks, they have much more "Halloween" oriented options they can use, rather then Goblins.

What makes you think they're not tossing the old formula of 'playable race' masks for something like goblins and worgen? You gotta admit it makes sense for a Halloween event. The Goblins sell tons of poop every holiday. Werewolves and Halloween go together like peanut butter and jelly.

They have hundreds of better options for generic masks, for one, and two, Goblins don't sell anything during Hallow's End, you are thinking Winter's Veil, the WoW Christmas, which is half Goblin oriented.

Worgen are humanoids. I thought you couldn't have humanoid pets?

Much like the Ghost Wolf and the AQ Slime, the tame was caused by a bug. There was a wolf in Howling Fjord you could only see while on a quest, when you beat him down to half life he transformed into a Worgen. Someone found out that if you wyvern sting the wolf, then start the tame, by the time it breaks and he turns into his Worgen form he will finish the tame and STAY a Worgen, but have all the stats, skills, talents, and classifications as any wolf you get throughout the game. Blizzard, once they found out about it, completely removed everything from the pet so that people were forced to abandon it. All the old bugged pets, they just stopped the ability to tame them, because Blizzard said "It's just cosmetic, but we don't want further people getting them" (paraphrased), the Worgen was the first time they literally butt-slammed a pet the minute it was found out.

I'm not sure there's an appropriate way to describe the chasm that requires being jumped across to reach the conclusion of "New Race Leak" from "Blizzard has added worgen and goblin masks to Hallow's End".

Do you have a better explanation that actually has a precedent? I would like to hear it. My information has one, whether you wish to believe it is irrelevant.

 

[Shakey]

:humph:

Its okay. I still you.


Hug it out?

OK, just don't tell anyone.

 

[Chazwozel]

Also, on the note of "goblins have nothing to do with the event." Neither do, humans, orcs, trolls, dwarves, elves, draenei, gnomes, or tauren (other then being another intelligent race with culture). The idea that Blizzard finalized the event maybe true as well, but I point up to to the list of things Blizzard has 'never' done.

The issue with the races you mentioned above is they are all playable, which is the point of the masks. Goblins, and NPCs, have nothing to do with the event, they don't even sell stuff during it like they do with Winter's Veil. If Blizzard does decide to make NPC masks, they have much more "Halloween" oriented options they can use, rather then Goblins.

What makes you think they're not tossing the old formula of 'playable race' masks for something like goblins and worgen? You gotta admit it makes sense for a Halloween event. The Goblins sell tons of poop every holiday. Werewolves and Halloween go together like peanut butter and jelly.

They have hundreds of better options for generic masks, for one, and two, Goblins don't sell anything during Hallow's End, you are thinking Winter's Veil, the WoW Christmas, which is half Goblin oriented.

[quote:22hspjmg]Worgen are humanoids. I thought you couldn't have humanoid pets?

Much like the Ghost Wolf and the AQ Slime, the tame was caused by a bug. There was a wolf in Howling Fjord you could only see while on a quest, when you beat him down to half life he transformed into a Worgen. Someone found out that if you wyvern sting the wolf, then start the tame, by the time it breaks and he turns into his Worgen form he will finish the tame and STAY a Worgen, but have all the stats, skills, talents, and classifications as any wolf you get throughout the game. Blizzard, once they found out about it, completely removed everything from the pet so that people were forced to abandon it. All the old bugged pets, they just stopped the ability to tame them, because Blizzard said "It's just cosmetic, but we don't want further people getting them" (paraphrased), the Worgen was the first time they literally butt-slammed a pet the minute it was found out.

I'm not sure there's an appropriate way to describe the chasm that requires being jumped across to reach the conclusion of "New Race Leak" from "Blizzard has added worgen and goblin masks to Hallow's End".

Do you have a better explanation that actually has a precedent? I would like to hear it. My information has one, whether you wish to believe it is irrelevant.[/quote:22hspjmg]

I really think you're wearing blinders to this.

To me it seems like either the NPC's are going to wear masks for Halloween or they're going to release new masks for a new seasonal quest or something. As for the Worgen pet issue. Again. Worgen's are humanoid. Ghost wolf and slime are not.

Goblins have everything to do with Halloween! They're Goblins!

 

[ScytheRexx]

I really think you're wearing blinders to this.

I like to think I am coming to a conclusion based on past evidence.

To me it seems like either the NPC's are going to wear masks for Halloween or they're going to release new masks for a new seasonal quest or something. As for the Worgen pet issue. Again. Worgen's are humanoid. Ghost wolf and slime are not.

Hunters can only tame beasts, Ghost Wolf and Slimes are not beasts, one is undead, the other has no classification. The Humanoid classification is irrelevant since none of the pets in question should have been tamable.

As for them just adding them as quests. That still would not explain the fact that the Worgen masks use all new textures, including a female one. Blizzard is not known to add female characters without due reason, notice how half the new races in WoW don't even have female variation? Even the Vykrul had female models added as more of an afterthought, you can't even edit them like you can the male versions. Even before WOTLK, they did this for Arrakoa, Broken, Ogres (Again), Gronn, Ethereals, Fel Orcs, etc... None of them were given females.

I think in the end that is one of the things making me really stress this being playable races, if I just saw Goblin masks and the "generic" worgen texture, I would agree with you. However, these are new textures yet to be seen, one including a female variation of a race without it seeming more like an afterthought and more of a purpose, otherwise Blizzard would just make one generic Worgen mask and be done for the holiday.

Goblins have everything to do with Halloween! They're Goblins!

At this point I am going to assume you never took part in Hallow's End beyond just looking at the decorations? You would know that Goblin don't have a MegaCorp running around. All the candy is given by Innkeepers from any Inn, and not a single hint that the candy is even coming from Goblins, the whole Holiday is a Forsaken Holiday, actually.

 

[Chazwozel]

I really think you're wearing blinders to this.

I like to think I am coming to a conclusion based on past evidence.

To me it seems like either the NPC's are going to wear masks for Halloween or they're going to release new masks for a new seasonal quest or something. As for the Worgen pet issue. Again. Worgen's are humanoid. Ghost wolf and slime are not.

Hunters can only tame beasts, Ghost Wolf and Slimes are not beasts, one is undead, the other has no classification. The Humanoid classification is irrelevant since none of the pets in question should have been tamable.

No the Humanoid classification is very relevant, since it's probably for this reason that Blizzard acted so quickly on the bug. They don't want humanoid creatures as 'pets'.

 

[Shannow]

And this brings up the "who knows" you get from data mining. Wait it out, see whats announced. As i said, no point in saying right now "Look at the new races!" That is simply silly.