WoW: New Race Leak

[Chazwozel]

What I mean is that it's just worthless information. Sure, I enjoy the lore like anyone else, but I'm not going to devote more time to it than, say, glancing at wowwiki from time to time. Case in point. Maybe if you'd brush up on computer coolant systems and basic thermodynamic concepts instead of analyzing whether a +2 spell int. enchant is more beneficial than 2% crit, you wouldn't have to shell out tons of money for a mediocre upgrade.

In before the ol' "Everything is a waste of time" rebuttal.

I'm sure a car engineer builds his own cars, since you know, he has the knowledge. :eyeroll:

Way to pick probably the worst example to prove your point.

Any auto engineer worth his salt has one of these in his/her garage:

or some kind of project. Some of my electrical engineer friends make their own custom MP3 players for fun.

Hell, I'm just an auto enthusiast and I've modded my cars out. I cut a big gaping hole in the side of my Jeep for a snorkel when I had it.

Point still stands. Practical knowledge > WoW

-- Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:31 pm --

Scolding people for having WoW knowledge in a WoW thread? That's...interesting. And yes, I know you were just kidding around.

I'm just never impressed by people with insane in depth knowledge on fictional crap. Harry Potter ext... included...

 

I would say that each of us on this board has their own little area of useless knowledge. I'm sure you have one, too.

 

[Chibibar]

Chaz: maybe that is what people excel at. It is fun for them. It is kinda like people who knows a lot of useless trivia stuff that has no use other than gameshow (if they get lucky and be on it) or at parties (if they play a lot of trivia stuff)

I personally wouldn't say that fictional material is not "less practical" than real life stuff. the world is evolving and there are competition for real life prizes (cash, trips and free stuff) so these "less practical" knowledge can earn a living. WoW still host arena tournaments for cash prizes. Knowing every little detail about the game and strategy will make you either 1st place or last place (lack of knowledge)

 

[Shegokigo]

Way to pick probably the worst example to prove your point.

Any auto engineer worth his salt has one of these in his/her garage:

or some kind of project. Some of my electrical engineer friends make their own custom MP3 players for fun.

Who says I don't have my own projects? I just don't want to mod a case to save $80?

Hell, I'm just an auto enthusiast and I've modded my cars out. I cut a big gaping hole in the side of my Jeep for a snorkel when I had it.

Point still stands. Practical knowledge > WoW
I'm just never impressed by people with insane in depth knowledge on fictional crap. Harry Potter ext... included...

Your knowledge of cars means as much to me and millions of other people as my WoW knowledge does to you. Where's your point?

Wanna know a point? I or Scythe would never go into an Auto Enthusiats thread and go "Wow, how lame and pointless, what a waste of time and energy. *golf clap*

 

[Chazwozel]

I would say that each of us on this board has their own little area of useless knowledge. I'm sure you have one, too.

Oh everyone does. Mines just random facts. I rock at Jeopardy, Trivial Pursuit, and Who wants to be a Millionare.

I guess my resentment towards WoW players still lingers from me wanting to punch someone anytime I hear their inane leet speak babble and drawn out raid stories. I had a former grad student colleague would would come to my lab and just prattle on about his guild's latest exploits. Ugh...

 

[SeraRelm]

I would say that each of us on this board has their own little area of useless knowledge. I'm sure you have one, too.

We sure do, Dave. It's called http://www.halforum.com!

 

[Chazwozel]

Wanna know a point? I or Scythe would never go into an Auto Enthusiats thread and go "Wow, how lame and pointless, what a waste of time and energy. *golf clap*

hey, babe, you started it. My response to Ed was a joke.

 

[Chibibar]

I would say that each of us on this board has their own little area of useless knowledge. I'm sure you have one, too.

Oh everyone does. Mines just random facts. I rock at Jeopardy, Trivial Pursuit, and Who wants to be a Millionare.

I guess my resentment towards WoW players still lingers from me wanting to punch someone anytime I hear their inane leet speak babble and drawn out raid stories. I had a former grad student colleague would would come to my lab and just prattle on about his guild's latest exploits. Ugh...

heh....

How is that different from a group of guys talking about sports and the latest "cool play" they saw on TV? (yea I know people like that and there are MORE people like that than WoW players) I mean I have co-workers talk about some "great plays" in Football, Basketball, Hockey, Soccer and such.... Or how someone talk about fishing/hunting (just for fun not for food) or anything else for that matter.

To each their own I say

 

[Chazwozel]

I would say that each of us on this board has their own little area of useless knowledge. I'm sure you have one, too.

Oh everyone does. Mines just random facts. I rock at Jeopardy, Trivial Pursuit, and Who wants to be a Millionare.

I guess my resentment towards WoW players still lingers from me wanting to punch someone anytime I hear their inane leet speak babble and drawn out raid stories. I had a former grad student colleague would would come to my lab and just prattle on about his guild's latest exploits. Ugh...

heh....

How is that different from a group of guys talking about sports and the latest "cool play" they saw on TV? (yea I know people like that and there are MORE people like that than WoW players) I mean I have co-workers talk about some "great plays" in Football, Basketball, Hockey, Soccer and such.... Or how someone talk about fishing/hunting (just for fun not for food) or anything else for that matter.

To each their own I say

Me after the Stanley Cup Final:

Awesome game, did you see Talbot's second goal to the top shelf past Osgood?

Wow nerd after a raid.

So the first thing my guild (the tommy knockers on shadowfang) does is attacks lord zorlorft with a stun spell, but our stupid rogue first sapped the adds which in turn generated tons of aggro onto the guys who were fighting the add mobs into wtfpwnbbqsauce and then.....

See the difference?

http://www.cracked.com/blog/understandi ... -brothers/

 

[elph]

Me after the Stanley Cup Final:

Awesome game, did you see Talbot's second goal to the top shelf past Osgood?

No man. I missed it. What happened?

Chaz when responding about a missed play

Oh man, it was great! Here's what happened! Talbot goes skating past everyone with his stick in hand. Whips the puck (plastic looking disk thing) at the goalie's head who just ducks in time and makes it into the net.

 

Yeah, I've been around enough sports nuts to know Chaz is REALLY downplaying the amount of analysis that goes into sports spectating. I mean, when the NFL starts just wait until you hear the podcasts and breakdowns of games.

 

[Piotyr]

Yeah, I've been around enough sports nuts to know Chaz is REALLY downplaying the amount of analysis that goes into sports spectating. I mean, when the NFL starts just wait until you hear the podcasts and breakdowns of games.

And discussions of fantasy teams...ugh.

Actually, I'm not sure which is more annoying, someone discussing their fantasy team, or someone discussing their recent performances in video game sports.

 

[Chibibar]

See the difference?

http://www.cracked.com/blog/understandi ... -brothers/

nope..

why?
cause I don't know anything about Hockey other than lots of hitting, a puck, stick, padding, and skating. So when you start using hockey terms, to me, it is no different then hearing hardcore WoW raiders explaining their exploits vs your story telling on how your fav team is that awesome.

(the following it made up cause I don't know all the terms but shows a good example)
This happen a while back (I don't watch football) but a couple of friends got together for the superbowl and later we met up at the bar for drinks.

Friend: Oh man, you missed a cool game. The quarterback did a blitz play, snapped the ball, but change due to gonna be back and did a toss pass to the side
I would be going like "huh??" cause that did not make any sense to me since I don't know football lingo.

It is no different than
Friend playing WoW: Oh man, you missed a good raiding session last night. We manage to score perfect on Hagan the unclean and everyone got their achievements. Top that off, we down the four horseman in less than 10 minutes! it was perfect symphony. (yea my friend don't talk in leet speak. Not all WoW player speak leet )

having play WoW. I understood that, but if he starts explaining the team make up and powers. I would probably be lost. to an non gamer a person talking about FPS, DPS, skills, powers, pots (potions), tank, wipes.... would never know what they are talking about.

It is same as checks, blitz, RBI, NFL, NHL or other sport lingo talk.

It is just information that make sense to another group of people of similar taste you may not like WoW talk, but probably could go on for hours talking lingo with sport enthusiast.

 

[ScytheRexx]

See the difference?

Not really, because the arguement comes down to taste in entertainment. Personally, when I hang out in a bar and some of my friends start talking about the Super Bowl, I just phase out because Football is one of the least interesting things in existence for me. When we talk about WoW, I join in and mention the Yogg+0 Stars kill, or how we will handle our next Freya attempt, they, also being WoW players, will talk about it with me just as enthusiastically as how awesome last nights touchdown was.

If you mentioned the wicked hockey play like you just did in this thread, I would be uninterested. If I told you about that time I PKed a guy by jumping off a ledge and thunderstriking him off a cliff, you would be uninterested. There is little different in the situation other then the content of interest by the two of us.

It all depends on the person.

 

[Cajungal]

You're all boring me equally. :tongue:

 

[Chazwozel]

What hockey terms?

You don't understand what the word skate means?

Goal? Slapshot?



Go to your grandma and ask her what a goal means. And then go ask her what a World of Warcraft mob is. No no, better yet ask her what soccer is and then ask her what World of Warcraft is.

 

[Cajungal]

There are some terms in here that people would not know. Every sport/game has its jargon.

http://www.firstbasesports.com/hockey_glossary.html

 

[Chazwozel]

oh and sigh...

In before the ol' "Everything is a waste of time" rebuttal.

 

[elph]

I look at them this way...

Sports are fine, but it's a spectator's event. Unless you're down there doing the work and playing the game, then the excitement is just silly to me. "Some guy that doesn't know I exsist, making more money in a year then I'll see in my life just busted some other guy with the same basics in the mouth with his stick and scored a goal". I just don't care so much.

Hearing about how people are overcoming obstacles (even electronic ones in a video game) and better ways of playing said game is a bit more interesting to me. Simply because *they* are the ones doing it, they're not watching someone do it.

 

[Chazwozel]

I look at them this way...

Sports are fine, but it's a spectator's event. Unless you're down there doing the work and playing the game, then the excitement is just silly to me. \"Some guy that doesn't know I exsist, making more money in a year then I'll see in my life just busted some other guy with the same basics in the mouth with his stick and scored a goal\". I just don't care so much.

Hearing about how people are overcoming obstacles (even electronic ones in a video game) and better ways of playing said game is a bit more interesting to me. Simply because *they* are the ones doing it, they're not watching someone do it.

Annnnnd here come the video games are equal and better to sports arguments....


Unvarnished truth about WOW btw: http://www.cracked.com/blog/understandi ... -brothers/

WoW isn’t like other nerd things. You can theoretically never see Star Wars, but during your everyday life you’ll pick up a basic understanding of what a Chewbacca is. However, if you never played World of Warcraft, listening to someone talk about it sounds like senseless and frightening gibberish. I think it was Kipling who described it as, “To the average man, another speaking on Warcraft sounds not unlike a rapist Chewbacca acting as his own defense attorney.”

 

[SeraRelm]

*pours gasoline around the thread*

But that's just because video games aren't a sport. They have no athletes.

*sits back with a marshmallow on a stick.*

 

[Chazwozel]

*pours gasoline around the thread*

But that's just because video games aren't a sport. They have no athletes.

*sits back with a marshmallow on a stick.*

I agree with your thread flaming, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

 

[elph]

I look at them this way...

Sports are fine, but it's a spectator's event. Unless you're down there doing the work and playing the game, then the excitement is just silly to me. \"Some guy that doesn't know I exsist, making more money in a year then I'll see in my life just busted some other guy with the same basics in the mouth with his stick and scored a goal\". I just don't care so much.

Hearing about how people are overcoming obstacles (even electronic ones in a video game) and better ways of playing said game is a bit more interesting to me. Simply because *they* are the ones doing it, they're not watching someone do it.

Annnnnd here come the video games are equal and better to sports arguments....


Unvarnished truth about WOW btw: http://www.cracked.com/blog/understandi ... -brothers/

WoW isn’t like other nerd things. You can theoretically never see Star Wars, but during your everyday life you’ll pick up a basic understanding of what a Chewbacca is. However, if you never played World of Warcraft, listening to someone talk about it sounds like senseless and frightening gibberish. I think it was Kipling who described it as, “To the average man, another speaking on Warcraft sounds not unlike a rapist Chewbacca acting as his own defense attorney.”

You're going to use Cracked as a source for truth?

Besides, I said in my opinion, I like playing video games more then watching sports. We are still free willed creatures allowed to have our own thoughts right?

I'm not down playing your taste in sports > video games. I get that. It's just not for me. If I were able to actively play sports more often then video games, then I probably would be a bit more in line with sports > games.

 

[SeraRelm]

I think pro gamers definitely have skill, that's for sure.

*warms her hands*

 

[Chazwozel]

I look at them this way...

Sports are fine, but it's a spectator's event. Unless you're down there doing the work and playing the game, then the excitement is just silly to me. \"Some guy that doesn't know I exsist, making more money in a year then I'll see in my life just busted some other guy with the same basics in the mouth with his stick and scored a goal\". I just don't care so much.

Hearing about how people are overcoming obstacles (even electronic ones in a video game) and better ways of playing said game is a bit more interesting to me. Simply because *they* are the ones doing it, they're not watching someone do it.

Annnnnd here come the video games are equal and better to sports arguments....


Unvarnished truth about WOW btw: http://www.cracked.com/blog/understandi ... -brothers/

WoW isn’t like other nerd things. You can theoretically never see Star Wars, but during your everyday life you’ll pick up a basic understanding of what a Chewbacca is. However, if you never played World of Warcraft, listening to someone talk about it sounds like senseless and frightening gibberish. I think it was Kipling who described it as, “To the average man, another speaking on Warcraft sounds not unlike a rapist Chewbacca acting as his own defense attorney.”

You're going to use Cracked as a source for truth?

Besides, I said in my opinion, I like playing video games more then watching sports. We are still free willed creatures allowed to have our own thoughts right?

I'm not down playing your taste in sports > video games. I get that. It's just not for me. If I were able to actively play sports more often then video games, then I probably would be a bit more in line with sports > games.

The part of the article I quoted is absolutely correct. To the average person, WoW gibberish sounds exactly like that. And please, dear God, you did not cop out with the classic "it's my opinion, asshole" way to try to win an argument. You can love WoW all you want, but that doesn't stop you from being any less of an idiot when you try to explain your adventures in Azeroth.

 

[Cajungal]

There are some terms in here that people would not know. Every sport/game has its jargon.

http://www.firstbasesports.com/hockey_glossary.html

So, we're just gonna have to assume that all these words should be in my vocabulary?

It's extremely tiresome to hear people talk about WoW, but... at least for me... sports aren't much more fun.

 

[SeraRelm]

So we're on this Mothership raid in RWZ and I'm running my perma PA and rad debuffs constantly when my team of noobs runs out of the center and gets hosp'd in like, 3 seconds flat... :tumbleweed:

 

[elph]

The part of the article I quoted is absolutely correct. To the average person, WoW gibberish sounds exactly like that. And please, dear God, you did not cop out with the classic \"it's my opinion, asshole\" way to try to win an argument. You can love WoW all you want, but that doesn't stop you from being any less of an idiot when you try to explain your adventures in Azeroth.

Okay, but now you have the aspect of time on your side.

http://www.historyofhockey.net/history_of_hockey.html

Using hockey as an example.

The game of ice hockey probably evolved from the game of field hockey that was played in Northern Europe for hundreds of years. The modern version of ice-hockey finds its origins in the rules laid down by a Canadian named J G Creighton. His rules were implemented in the first game of ice hockey played in Montreal, Canada in the year 1875.

1875 is the first game. That's nearly 110 years (give or take a few years) before the first personal computer got into homes. That's generations of time that people have been participating in the sport. Families are growing up around it, playing it, watching it. Towns and people are cheering it on. Why? Because there really isn't anything else to do (among other legit reasons).

That's 120 years or so for people to get used to terminology and make it where it didn't sound like gibberish.

Also take this into account:

The game of Hockey has been around from the time of early civilization. Some of the reports find the earliest origin of the game 4000 years back. Field hockey was reportedly played even before the birth of Christ. Basically known as the “ball and stick” game, it was played since ancient times in places diverse as Rome, Scotland, Egypt and South America. The game was referred to in different names but the basic idea of playing the game was the same. The most apt used term was “Hockie” by the Irish. Though the term was coined centuries ago, the word found its way through to the present generation.

Sure, if you're going to compare a past time and aspect or language that's only been around *maybe* 20 years to that which has been around 120 - 4000 years... You're right. Video games just simply sound like a frightening language. Give video games another 100+ years and let's have this conversation again.

 

Scatter-Two. Bunch Right-Zip-Fire Right-273-Pivot-F Flat. On two. Ready? BREAK!


Sounds easy enough.

 

[Cajungal]

I shall use my powers of invisibility for evil.

 

[Shegokigo]

The part of the article I quoted is absolutely correct. To the average person.......

Pssst, the average person loved Transformers 2. :slywink:

 

[Shakey]

You know whats even worse than hearing someone talk about WoW? Hearing someone talk about how much they hate WoW.

 

[Chazwozel]

Scatter-Two. Bunch Right-Zip-Fire Right-273-Pivot-F Flat. On two. Ready? BREAK!


Sounds easy enough.

23 skadoo!

Those are on field call-signs. The other team isn't supposed to understand them!

 

[SeraRelm]

"Oh, it's Cricket. Marvelous game, really. You see, the bowler hurls the ball toward the batter who tries to play away a fine leg. He endeavors to score by dashing between the creases, provided the wicket keeper hasn't whipped his bails off, of course."

 

[Chazwozel]

The part of the article I quoted is absolutely correct. To the average person.......

Pssst, the average person loved Transformers 2. :slywink:

Haha

Section One: Idiots

I guess the same people that loved Transformers 2 are those folks that make up the bulk of WoW.

-- Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:40 pm --

The part of the article I quoted is absolutely correct. To the average person, WoW gibberish sounds exactly like that. And please, dear God, you did not cop out with the classic \"it's my opinion, *\" way to try to win an argument. You can love WoW all you want, but that doesn't stop you from being any less of an idiot when you try to explain your adventures in Azeroth.

Okay, but now you have the aspect of time on your side.

http://www.historyofhockey.net/history_of_hockey.html

Using hockey as an example.

The game of ice hockey probably evolved from the game of field hockey that was played in Northern Europe for hundreds of years. The modern version of ice-hockey finds its origins in the rules laid down by a Canadian named J G Creighton. His rules were implemented in the first game of ice hockey played in Montreal, Canada in the year 1875.

1875 is the first game. That's nearly 110 years (give or take a few years) before the first personal computer got into homes. That's generations of time that people have been participating in the sport. Families are growing up around it, playing it, watching it. Towns and people are cheering it on. Why? Because there really isn't anything else to do (among other legit reasons).

That's 120 years or so for people to get used to terminology and make it where it didn't sound like gibberish.

Also take this into account:

[quote:d8i8qh4v]The game of Hockey has been around from the time of early civilization. Some of the reports find the earliest origin of the game 4000 years back. Field hockey was reportedly played even before the birth of Christ. Basically known as the “ball and stick” game, it was played since ancient times in places diverse as Rome, Scotland, Egypt and South America. The game was referred to in different names but the basic idea of playing the game was the same. The most apt used term was “Hockie” by the Irish. Though the term was coined centuries ago, the word found its way through to the present generation.

Sure, if you're going to compare a past time and aspect or language that's only been around *maybe* 20 years to that which has been around 120 - 4000 years... You're right. Video games just simply sound like a frightening language. Give video games another 100+ years and let's have this conversation again.[/quote:d8i8qh4v]


I'm going to ignore people who use hockey analogies to patronize me from here on out.