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X-Men: Days of Future Past

#1

evilmike

evilmike

Two new cast members have been announced:



This is in addition to the young versions of the characters played by James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender.
(via i09)


#2

Zappit

Zappit

This pleases me.


#3

Terrik

Terrik

It pleases me too...


But I think I've had enough X-men for a decade.


#4

phil

phil

Aren't they making another wolverine movie too?


#5

bhamv3

bhamv3

This pleases me muchly.


#6

@Li3n

@Li3n

But I think I've had enough X-men for a decade.
Not if you only count the good ones.


#7

evilmike

evilmike

Another actor is "in talks" to be part of the cast (via The Hollywood Reporter).


#8

Gryfter

Gryfter

As long as January Jones does not reappear as Emma Frost... it'll be all good.


#9

Zappit

Zappit

Apparently Ian McKellen didn't know he had been hired for the role of elder Magneto, but seems like he's going to just roll with it. (Either his agent botched the communication with his client or Bryan Singer tried something very different to land a star.)

http://social.entertainment.msn.com...spx?feat=2b6b7a44-1cbd-4190-871f-caab1e8c23cd


#10

evilmike

evilmike

More Casting news (via i09 and Twitter)

Very excited to welcome #annapaquin, @ellenpage & @shawnrashmore to #XMen #DaysofFuturePast - thank you @BrettRatner for letting them live!​


#11

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

uh.........hmm? I. Okay!


#12

Frank

Frank

I hope this doesn't end up as a hot mess.


#13

Bowielee

Bowielee

I hope this doesn't end up as a hot mess.
I'd be worried if Bryan Singer weren't involved in the movies again. Then again, he didn't do Xmen 3 to do Superman Returns, so who knows.


#14

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

He should remake the Usual Suspects, only about the X-Men. With Bishop as the investigator.


#15

Cheesy1

Cheesy1



#16

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

The Twitterverse, however, is speculating that he will play Puck, a seven-foot tall athlete and bullfighter who turned into a 3' 6" dwarf by a malicious spirit.
Everything I've read has said he was playing a villain, and 9/10 articles seem to specify that he'll be playing Bolivier Trask. I haven't seen a single person speculate he was playing Puck.


#17

Frank

Frank

If everything I've read about Peter Dinklage is true, he would absolutely refuse to play Puck. Unless the project completely blows him away, he doesn't go in for type roles. He has stated multiple times how much he hated his role in the Narnia movie.


#18

Tress

Tress

He could play anyone, unless that character specifically requires size and height as a defining trait (he couldn't play The Juggernaut, for example). It's just going to require that people look past his height and don't flip out if he doesn't look 100% like the comic version of whichever character he's playing.


#19

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

He could play anyone, unless that character specifically requires size and height as a defining trait (he couldn't play The Juggernaut, for example). It's just going to require that people look past his height and don't flip out if he doesn't look 100% like the comic version of whichever character he's playing.
Also, didn't Singer say there was a full on CGI character in the movie? Peter Dinklage might only be providing a voice.


#20

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Peter Dinklage is such a good actor that he gets cast for his acting, not for his size.

Except sometimes for his size, too.


#21

@Li3n

@Li3n

Considering this is a time travel story they might go 90's cartoon style and combine comicbook storylines... if so Trevor Fitzroy might show up, and Peter Dinklage could be playing Bantam...

Anyone know if Bishop is in the film?


#22

Bowielee

Bowielee

Ugh, I hope they stay far away from the whole Bishop/Trevor Fitzroy storyline. One of the most drawn out and ultimately stupidly paid off storylines in X-men history. Probably only topped by the prophecy of the twelve.


#23

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure "Days of Future Past" was the name of the X-Men VHS my brother had that was about Bishop coming back and trying to kill..... I think it was Gambit. If I recall correctly, Mystique had posed as Gambit and messedthings up for everyone.


#24

@Li3n

@Li3n

Yup, like i said, the 90's cartoon combined DoFP with Bishop... though Trevor Fitzroy came later, i just didn't remember it right i guess.


#25

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

If Ving Rhames is cast, I'll know to stay away. Not that I don't like Bishop... just, that VHS made my head hurt. I had no idea what the hell was happening.[DOUBLEPOST=1361119409][/DOUBLEPOST]
Also the fact Ellen Page has come back intrigues me. For several reasons. 1: I think she's an excellent young actress 2: I have a thing for short brunettes so naturally I have a crush on her. 3: She's picky about her roles, and it was apparently a bit of a hassle convincing her to do X-Men 3. So that tells me either this script is really good, or she's doing this in order to get a part in something else they have coming up that she really wants.


#26

@Li3n

@Li3n

If Ving Rhames is cast, I'll know to stay away. Not that I don't like Bishop... just, that VHS made my head hurt. I had no idea what the hell was happening.
It's time travel in a cartoon... they almost never get it right anywhere else.

Also, compared to the comics the cartoon did Bishop/Fitzroy/Cable way better (of course it helps that they already knew how they wanted to end it and who is what instead of having to make it up as they go along).


#27

evilmike

evilmike



#28

Bowielee

Bowielee

If they're going to do the Bishop thing, they shouldn't have called it Days of Future Past, it's one of the best stories in the history of the Xmen and the Bishop storyline was ass. The cartoon version was even more ass. Seeing as Bryan Singer has admitted that his main exposure to the Xmen is from the cartoons, I'm thinking we may end up getting the dumbass cartoon version.


#29

Espy

Espy

Considering Singers run of movies lately I would just be worried in general.


#30

Bowielee

Bowielee

I'm 90% certain that they're going to go with the "X-traitor" storyline in one way or another. They already killed Senator Kelley, so they already can't do the original storyline.

When I first heard of this, I was picturing Sentinels finally making it into the franchise, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be all about a traitor in the midst and someone coming back in time (most likely Bishop) to stop them.[DOUBLEPOST=1362165950][/DOUBLEPOST]
If Ving Rhames is cast, I'll know to stay away. Not that I don't like Bishop... just, that VHS made my head hurt. I had no idea what the hell was happening.[DOUBLEPOST=1361119409][/DOUBLEPOST]
Also the fact Ellen Page has come back intrigues me. For several reasons. 1: I think she's an excellent young actress 2: I have a thing for short brunettes so naturally I have a crush on her. 3: She's picky about her roles, and it was apparently a bit of a hassle convincing her to do X-Men 3. So that tells me either this script is really good, or she's doing this in order to get a part in something else they have coming up that she really wants.
They turned Bishop evil in the comics.


#31

evilmike

evilmike



#32

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

OH MY GOD! HE'S BLUE AND FURRY!


#33

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

HE'S SO FLUFFY I'M GONNA DIE!



#34

evilmike

evilmike

Bryan Singer posted the first look at the 70's version of Professor X (via Twitter)



#35

Tress

Tress

Groovy.


#36

Bowielee

Bowielee

That chair is awfully technologically advanced for the 70s. Even the comic had the sense to show him in a regular wheelchair in flashbacks :p


#37

evilmike

evilmike

Another interesting costume picture from Brian Singer:


#38

evilmike

evilmike

Found at Comic-con:

(via i09)


Spotted on the official X-Men tumblr:


#39

evilmike

evilmike

The cast, at Comic-Con
x-men cast.jpg


#40

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Dinklage needs to hang out with Page...


#41

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Dinklage needs to hang out with Page...

They would create the shortest babies ever.


#42

Bowielee

Bowielee

Seeing that picture of Dinklage, you know what DC Villain he'd be perfect for?

Dr. Psycho.


#43

evilmike

evilmike

The Trask Industries website is live: http://www.trask-industries.com/




Not quite the timeline we know...

(via io9)


#44

evilmike

evilmike



#45

Steve

Steve

All that's missing are roller skates and a pimp hat.


#46

Frank

Frank

They look plausibly realistic, so that also means, like most robots, they look silly.

That thing is not intimidating even with a gatling gun for a hand.


#47

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

They look plausibly realistic, so that also means, like most robots, they look silly.

That thing is not intimidating even with a gatling gun for a hand.
Once it is well lit, and in action (CGI) it should do ok.

I hated the Odin and Loki costumes when the set photos came out, but in the film they looked pretty good.


#48

Tress

Tress

I hated the Odin and Loki costumes when the set photos came out, but in the film they looked pretty good.
I was thinking the exact same thing. And how much I thought Heath Ledger would be a bad fit for The Dark Knight. These things sometimes come together much better in motion, or in the context of the whole film, than they look in photos.

But seriously, it looks like a cheap piece of crap in the picture.


#49

MindDetective

MindDetective

iSentinel


#50

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Remember how bad the iron man armor stills looked?

Everything looks different in post. and we don't even know if that's a final sentinel, it could be a prototype.


#51

bhamv3

bhamv3

Get rid of the vent on the chest and replace it with a proper armored chest piece, and it'd look much better.


#52

Frank

Frank

Remember how bad the iron man armor stills looked?

Everything looks different in post. and we don't even know if that's a final sentinel, it could be a prototype.
I always thought the Iron Man armour looked great in the production pics.


#53

Bowielee

Bowielee

iSentinel
Mutanthunt different.


#54

Gusto

Gusto

Paint that thing gold and get Anthony Daniels to voice it, and baby, you got a stew goin'.


#55

figmentPez

figmentPez

Get rid of the vent on the chest and replace it with a proper armored chest piece, and it'd look much better.
While I agree that it looks like it needs a "Press Button For Hot Air" label, it's probably the propulsion system for flying and I want to see it in motion before I judge too harshly that it ruins the intimidation factor.


#56

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

HALT, MUTANT! OR WE WILL UNLEASH HOT AIR IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION!


#57

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

HALT, MUTANT! OR WE WILL UNLEASH HOT AIR IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION!
OH GOD, IT'S A POLITICIAN BOT!


#58

bhamv3

bhamv3

Actually, looking at the picture some more, it looks like the chest piece slides or rotates upwards to reveal the vent. So maybe it's only like this during flight, while it has a normal chest piece during normal operation.

EDIT: Wait, no, looking at evilmike's earlier White House pic, the vent is present while the bot is standing on land. Oh well.


#59

figmentPez

figmentPez

HALT, MUTANT! OR WE WILL UNLEASH HOT AIR IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION!
I want a scene where Beast uses scavenged sentinel parts as a giant size hair dryer. Because you know that your average size hair dryer just would not cut it for the blue fuzzball.


#60

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

I would think a fan (if it is one) in the middle would be a great target. Why can't these mutant superhero movies be more realistic. Pshaw.


#61

Espy

Espy

Yeah, I don't get the giant fan in the chest. That looks weird.


#62

drifter

drifter

For flight, maybe? Looks like those directional exhaust fans for VTOL.


#63

BananaHands

BananaHands

Because I love you guys. Here's the second leak today. HURRY!

Days of Future Past Footage Leak


#64

Tress

Tress

Because I love you guys. Here's the second leak today. HURRY!

Days of Future Past Footage Leak
Interesting. I am cautiously optimistic.


#65

evilmike

evilmike

First Trailer


#66

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Looks very promising, but I hope it doesn't get bogged down with too many characters like X3. Then again, X3 had a lot more problems than just too many characters.


#67

Bowielee

Bowielee

I look at it this way, January Jones' abysmal portrayal of Emma Frost aside, First Class was a decent movie. The two Xmen movies that Bryan Singer directed are pretty much responsible for kicking off the current Super-Hero movie trend going on right now and X2 is probably one of my favorite superhero movies. I'm cautiously optimistic.


#68

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Not been keeping up with the movie, but it's giving me vibes that we are going to jump ahead to the future after the Sentinels take over, and then go back in time to do something to prevent it. If you ask me this likely means most of the characters from the first movies are going to appear and die/get captured in the first few minutes just to raise the stakes., leaving the rest of the movie open for Logan to go back and interact with the past versions of the characters. My take on what will likely happen, rather then having the whole crew from the future also in the past.


#69

Bowielee

Bowielee

Not been keeping up with the movie, but it's giving me vibes that we are going to jump ahead to the future after the Sentinels take over, and then go back in time to do something to prevent it. If you ask me this likely means most of the characters from the first movies are going to appear and die/get captured in the first few minutes just to raise the stakes., leaving the rest of the movie open for Logan to go back and interact with the past versions of the characters. My take on what will likely happen, rather then having the whole crew from the future also in the past.
You mean just like the original story from the comic? :p


#70

SpecialKO

SpecialKO



#71

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Never read it, so good to know. :cool:


#72

Frank

Frank

Adagio in D Minor, stealing the prolific trailer music championship from Lux Aeterna once again.


#73

bhamv3

bhamv3

X3 already killed off Jean and Scott, so who's left out of the original team to kill? Storm, Iceman, Rogue, Kitty... maybe Colossus...

Edit:

Beast, forgot Beast.


#74

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Storm dying would be great. I really don't like Halle Berry as Storm.


#75

Bowielee

Bowielee

Storm dying would be great. I really don't like Halle Berry as Storm.
Do you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning?

Same thing that happens to everything else.

Worst quote out of any X-men movie, including the terrible Wolverine movies.


#76

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Do you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning?

Same thing that happens to everything else.

Worst quote out of any X-men movie, including the terrible Wolverine movies.
Totally agree. I don't know if it was bad direction, or if Berry just doesn't have the gravitas to pull off a character like Storm, but everything she does just comes across as meek.


#77

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Was the second Wolverine movie that bad? The first was so horrid, I couldn't bring myself to chance the second one. Unfortunately, most of my friends agreed with that move.


#78

Bowielee

Bowielee

The Wolverine wasn't nearly as bad as Origins, but that's not saying much.

Silver Samurai is a giant cyborg and Viper is not the head of Hydra, but a shitty snake mutant.

I'll let those two facts speak for themselves.


#79

Fun Size

Fun Size

Totally agree. I don't know if it was bad direction, or if Berry just doesn't have the gravitas to pull off a character like Storm, but everything she does just comes across as meek.
Fun movie fact: that line was part of Joss Whedon's punch up of the X-Men script (along with my favorite line, "You're a dick."), and was supposed to be delivered as a throwaway punchline. The idea was that the answer was obvious, and she would say it matter of fact. Totally blown by Berry.


#80

Far

Far

Wolverine was pretty damn good for the first bit, then in the last 20 minutes they remembered that they were making a comic book movie and threw all this absurd crap at you and expected you to swallow it. I understand that stuff fits into the genre but that's not the movie they were crafting for the bulk of it. It felt like it sprung up out of no where.


#81

evilmike

evilmike

Empire magazine has a series of 25 collectable covers of XDoFP for its March issue. All of the covers can all be seen here. They give us better looks at a few new characters including:


bishoplarge.jpg

and

Nimrod
futuresentinellarge.jpg


#82

Bowielee

Bowielee

The site says that's the future sentinel.... I wonder if it's supposed to be Nimrod.


#83

Frank

Frank

My favorite X-Men character Bryan Singer is in it!


#84

@Li3n

@Li3n

The site says that's the future sentinel.... I wonder if it's supposed to be Nimrod.
Yeah, they're making all the cool robots black nowadays... can't tell if that's racist or very enlightened of them.


#85

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Everyone seems to be raising a big stink about Quicksilver's look. I don't see what the big deal is. Have they not SEEN how stupid his comic costumes have been? It'd look horrendous if they tried putting that on the big screen.


#86

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Yeah, I don't think Uni-tard Flock of Seagulls would translate well.


#87

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

As long as they have a good version of the ATM conversation, I'm good with whatever they want to do to Quicksilver.


#88

filmfanatic

filmfanatic

There's a new trailer for X-Men: Days of Future Past.



#89

Frank

Frank

Trailer looks neato, but it's still going to be a clusterfuck.


#90

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Trailer looks neato, but it's still going to be a clusterfuck.
I dunno, that was said about First Class yet it blew away expectations.


#91

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I dunno, that was said about First Class yet it blew away expectations.
There were some problems with first class (Emma Frost) but overall, I agree, it was a lot better than I expected, and I enjoyed it.

I wonder if Frost will be in this one. She and Hallie Berry's Storm can compete to out-lame each other.


#92

tegid

tegid

Yes, but Synger has come back for this one, and First Class was markedly different from X-men 1 and 2


#93

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Well...that looks pretty great. Of course, so did X-Men 3, so I'm not getting my hopes up.


#94

Frank

Frank

I dunno, that was said about First Class yet it blew away expectations.
This cast is more than double First Class and First Class had SO many extraneous characters that did almost nothing.


#95

BananaHands

BananaHands

That brief shot of Quicksilver though.

jfc


#96

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

That brief shot of Quicksilver though.

jfc
Jersey Fried Chicken?


#97

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Juicy Frothy Cunnilingus?


#98

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

The goggles are the worst part, but the whole costume is just so fucking goofy.

However, I did see Iceman actually in his ice form, which, you know, fucking finally.


#99

Espy

Espy

Oh god this is going to be terrible. Except for when Fassbender is in it. Then it will be awesome.

Also, remember Brian Singer had an accident after he made the first 2 x-men movies and he forgot how to make movies that don't suck. So don't get your hopes up.


#100

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Oh god this is going to be terrible. Except for when Fassbender is in it. Then it will be awesome.

Also, remember Brian Singer had an accident after he made the first 2 x-men movies and he forgot how to make movies that don't suck. So don't get your hopes up.
These trailers are all lies. If Superman Returns is any indication this movie will be 3 hours of Wolverine staring into Jean Grey's window.


#101

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

The goggles are the worst part, but the whole costume is just so fucking goofy.

However, I did see Iceman actually in his ice form, which, you know, fucking finally.
He was shown in his ice form in X-Men 2.



Skip to about 1:24


#102

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Haven't watched the movies in a loooooooooooong time.


#103

bhamv3

bhamv3

He was shown in his ice form in X-Men 2.



Skip to about 1:24
Pretty sure that's X3. Which might explain why both you and CynicismKills don't remember it clearly.


#104

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Pretty sure that's X3. Which might explain why both you and CynicismKills don't remember it clearly.
Ahh, that could be. Upon watching it, it does look bad enough to be in X3.


#105

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

saw the trailer. meh.


#106

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Oh god this is going to be terrible. Except for when Fassbender is in it. Then it will be awesome.

Also, remember Brian Singer had an accident after he made the first 2 x-men movies and he forgot how to make movies that don't suck. So don't get your hopes up.
Hey come on, that's not fair. The Oz movie was actually pretty solid.


#107

Espy

Espy

Hey come on, that's not fair. The Oz movie was actually pretty solid.
That was Sam Raimi.


#108

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

That was Sam Raimi.
...whoops. Bad case of the dumb there. Sorry.

Okay, yeah, looking at his IMDB directing credits, I'm with you, now.[DOUBLEPOST=1395722297,1395722167][/DOUBLEPOST]Oh no. Oh dear Christ, no...I just had a closer look at some IMDB stuff.

Simon Kinberg wrote the script for this. The same guy who wrote X-Men 3 and This Means War.

Screw it. I no longer have hope for this movie.


#109

Bowielee

Bowielee

Hey come on, that's not fair. The Oz movie was actually pretty solid.
You and I must have watched an entirely different movie.


#110

Espy

Espy

...whoops. Bad case of the dumb there. Sorry.

Okay, yeah, looking at his IMDB directing credits, I'm with you, now.[DOUBLEPOST=1395722297,1395722167][/DOUBLEPOST]Oh no. Oh dear Christ, no...I just had a closer look at some IMDB stuff.

Simon Kinberg wrote the script for this. The same guy who wrote X-Men 3 and This Means War.

Screw it. I no longer have hope for this movie.
I just hope that if they still feel the need to show every mutant doing something with his/her powers they bother to get the cash to not make it look dumb as shit. Of the big superhero movies the X-Men have had the wildest range of VFX, from outstanding work to just amazingly crappy. Part of that I assume is because it's such a "big team" they feel like they have to give everyone their 5 seconds on screen but you know what? Screw that. Focus on what works, not "90's Hair guy and his mohawk of screaming fire farts" or whatever.


#111

Bowielee

Bowielee

Iceman is ice surfing. All your arguments are invalid.


#112

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Why is Xavier shitting fire? Did he have Mexican for lunch?



#113

bhamv3

bhamv3

Clearly his wheelchair now has a jetpack attached. It's the future, after all.


#114

Espy

Espy

Thats not an official poster is it? Because WTF


#115

Steve

Steve

Another trailer. This one shows Quicksilver in action and he doesn't look as bad as I thought he'd look.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=96796


#116

Just Me

Just Me

Thats not an official poster is it? Because WTF
Well, according to Sir Ian it is.
https://twitter.com/IanMcKellen/status/448122656374542336/photo/1


#117

Bowielee

Bowielee

I hadn't even heard that Sunspot was in it, though, from the looks of it, it's actually Sunfire.


#118

Gryfter

Gryfter

I hadn't even heard that Sunspot was in it, though, from the looks of it, it's actually Sunfire.
Looks more like Magma's powers.


#119

Bowielee

Bowielee

There's not much of a difference. In AoA, he was constantly on fire.


#120

Steve

Steve

Why do studios allow tie in sales like this?



Quicksilver in action. . . eating a Carl's JR breakfast sandwich. This does nothing to promote the X-Men brand.


#121

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

I just saw that earlier today. He looks like a nu-metal fan in a Party City wig. Just awful.


#122

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I think it's so surreal that we're getting two different interpretations of Quicksilver in such a short timeframe. Has anything like that ever happened in movies before?


#123

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I just saw that earlier today. He looks like a nu-metal fan in a Party City wig. Just awful.
Is that the Sony version of the Marvel version?


#124

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Is that the Sony version of the Marvel version?
The Sony version. Both he and Scarlet Witch will be in both this AND Avengers because somehow, both studios have the rights to the characters. Very strange.


#125

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Is that the Sony version of the Marvel version?
Yeah, that is Sony's for Days of Future Past. Marvel's for AoU looks like this (along with complimentary Wanda):



#126

Bowielee

Bowielee

FWIW, I like the Marvel version much better.


#127

Steve

Steve

FWIW, I like the Marvel version much better.
And the Marvel version photos are before studio magic is applied. Once those scenes are shown on the big screen they will look amazing. I've read a lot of complaints regarding Scarlett Witch's outfit but I think is fine.
The Fox version of Quicksilver looks bad. For some reason Fox can't get something as simple as hair looking natural. Storm and Quicksilver's hair both look like bad wigs. And I've not been a fan of Mystique and Beast's look. The bright blues look fake on screen. Compare that to The Hulk in The Avengers and it's night and day. I had such high hopes for DOFP (and am still holding out for a great movie) but the more I see of it the less enthusiastic I become.


#128

Tress

Tress

I think both versions look goofy as hell, and I'm not a fan of either.


#129

Bowielee

Bowielee

And the Marvel version photos are before studio magic is applied. Once those scenes are shown on the big screen they will look amazing. I've read a lot of complaints regarding Scarlett Witch's outfit but I think is fine.
I'm glad they're not doing the ugly looking cowl for Wanda. I've never been a fan of any of her looks that incorporated that.


#130

Tress

Tress

I'm glad they're not doing the ugly looking cowl for Wanda. I've never been a fan of any of her looks that incorporated that.
I think it's still there, it's just down in the photo. It's like a hooded jacket now.


#131

Far

Far

You can see Marvel's versions of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch in motion and all lit and colourized correctly during the credit scene for Cap and they do not look nearly as goofy as either those pictures make them seem or as bad as the dofp ones are.


#132

Espy

Espy

Why do studios allow tie in sales like this?



Quicksilver in action. . . eating a Carl's JR breakfast sandwich. This does nothing to promote the X-Men brand.
WOW. That… is so stupid.


#133

@Li3n

@Li3n

Why do studios allow tie in sales like this?

Because $$$.


#134

filmfanatic

filmfanatic

They've started a website now that gives a historical timeline leading to the bad future present in Days of Future Past.

http://www.25moments.com/


#135

Bowielee

Bowielee

Sounds like they're taking some comic cannon into account there, which is cool.

Screen debut of Blink is kind of exciting.


#136

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

This movie keeps getting better and better. Whatever they did between X3/Origins and First Class/Wolverine is working.


#137

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Saw the new trailer before Captain America 2.

Sold.


#138

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

So hey... they mention Quicksilver in the 25 Moments thing. You know... the same Quicksilver that is slated to be in Avengers 2?

Anyone else think Disney and Fox are about to throw down? Fuck... I'd love to see Fox lose the rights to mutants and the X-Men. Who WOULDN'T want to see an X-Men movie done by Marvel, in the Marvel Movie Universe?


#139

filmfanatic

filmfanatic

So hey... they mention Quicksilver in the 25 Moments thing. You know... the same Quicksilver that is slated to be in Avengers 2?

Anyone else think Disney and Fox are about to throw down? Fuck... I'd love to see Fox lose the rights to mutants and the X-Men. Who WOULDN'T want to see an X-Men movie done by Marvel, in the Marvel Movie Universe?
Regarding Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, they made a special deal regarding them. Though they are major X-Men characters, they are also old-school members of the Avengers. As such, they arranged it that Fox can use them but cannot reference anything related to the Avengers, whereas Disney can use them but cannot reference the fact that they are Magneto's children and mutants.


#140

Bowielee

Bowielee

I wonder if they have the same deal with Beast.


#141

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I wonder if they have the same deal with Beast.
Eh, probably not. While Beast has been an Avenger, he's much more synonymous with X-Men.[DOUBLEPOST=1397479499,1397479441][/DOUBLEPOST]Though I must say, if Disney ever gets the rights back to the X-Men, that's going to make the Wanda & Pietro situation VERY interesting.


#142

evilmike

evilmike



#143

figmentPez

figmentPez

Regarding Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, they made a special deal regarding them. Though they are major X-Men characters, they are also old-school members of the Avengers. As such, they arranged it that Fox can use them but cannot reference anything related to the Avengers, whereas Disney can use them but cannot reference the fact that they are Magneto's children and mutants.
So, if Fox got the Avengers part, and Disney got mutants, does that mean Tumblr is vying to get the incest?


#144

evilmike

evilmike

Final trailer


#145

Celt Z

Celt Z

I was just coming to post that trailer! Out of all the stuff I've seen, this one makes me the most excited for the movie. I'm still a little apprehensive, but I loved the "Days of Future Past" original storyline.


#146

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

I hear it's pretty spoilery so I'll avoid that one. I'm going to watch the movie anyway.


#147

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this. It's starting to look a little too over the top, like they're trying to throw too much into it.

That's the same feeling I had about Last Stand before it came out.[DOUBLEPOST=1397673918,1397673872][/DOUBLEPOST]
I hear it's pretty spoilery so I'll avoid that one. I'm going to watch the movie anyway.
Spoiler: They're mutants.


#148

Cajungal

Cajungal

Spoiler: They're mutants.
Goddamnit, Nick! :censored:


#149

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Goddamnit, Nick! :censored:
Oh well sooooorrrrr-EE! I thought it was obvious!

What? Next I can't say that Wolverine has claws?


#150

Cajungal

Cajungal

Oh well sooooorrrrr-EE! I thought it was obvious!

What? Next I can't say that Wolverine has claws?
...Why does everything I love get ruined? :(


#151

mikerc

mikerc

Is it just me or at 2:08 in that trailer does Wolverine have
bone claws?


#152

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Is it just me or at 2:08 in that trailer does Wolverine have
bone claws?
My best guess?

The point he jumps back to is before he's taken for the Weapon X program.


#153

evilmike

evilmike

Is it just me or at 2:08 in that trailer does Wolverine have
bone claws?
He does.

Given the timeline established in his origin movie, he wouldn't have gotten the metal inlay until 1979. If I am remembering correctly, the Three Mile Island accident was a coverup for the finale of the movie. I would rather not re-watch the movie to verify this.


#154

Espy

Espy

Lets hope Singer can find the decent director in him again. He hasn't exactly been on a hot streak lately.


#155

Far

Far

Wolverine lost his metal claws at the end of that film to the silver samurai and quickly regrew bone claws to replace them. I assume this film occurs after that and then he is sent back in time.


#156

Steve

Steve



International trailer. Little more action. It's looking more promising.


#157

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Wolverine lost his metal claws at the end of that film to the silver samurai and quickly regrew bone claws to replace them. I assume this film occurs after that and then he is sent back in time.
Yes but isn't the intention that his future mind simply enters his past body? It's not a literal teleporting through time situation from what I understand. That means what happens in The Wolverine is not relevant for those scenes, since it looks like they take part in the past.

P.S I hate bone claws.


#158

Far

Far

Ah I didn't realize that was how they were going about it. Haven't looked too much into it.


#159

Bowielee

Bowielee

Yes but isn't the intention that his future mind simply enters his past body? It's not a literal teleporting through time situation from what I understand. That means what happens in The Wolverine is not relevant for those scenes, since it looks like they take part in the past.

P.S I hate bone claws.
I believe the past portion of the movie takes place before Wolverine's skeleton was bonded with adamantium.

I actually kind of dug the comic after Magneto pulled the metal out of his body, so I'm in the "pro-bone claw" camp.


#160

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I believe the past portion of the movie takes place before Wolverine's skeleton was bonded with adamantium.
Oh I know. Just pointing out why I think the last movie is not really relevant.


#161

bhamv3

bhamv3

I believe the past portion of the movie takes place before Wolverine's skeleton was bonded with adamantium.

I actually kind of dug the comic after Magneto pulled the metal out of his body, so I'm in the "pro-bone claw" camp.
Plus he's more vulnerable without the adamantium. Yes, healing factor and all that, but now they can't solve every problem with "toss the indestructible guy at the issue and let him claw it to death."

What I want to know is
why Xavier is walking now, why Beast isn't furry, etc. This movie's meant to take place after First Class, right?


#162

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Don't know if this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but I take it this movie is ignoring X-Men 3?


#163

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Don't know if this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but I take it this movie is ignoring X-Men 3?
I sure hope so.


#164

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Don't know if this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but I take it this movie is ignoring X-Men 3?
What makes you say that? From what I know they still connect everything to all the other movies, including 3. If your issue is Xavier and Magneto...
At the end of The Wolverine, while Logan is at the airport, all the people around him suddenly freeze. He notices some metal moving, spins around, but Magneto stops him from attacking by taking control of what is left of his adamantium skeleton. Magneto hints of the coming storm of DOFP, but Logan does not trust him. Then Xavier rolls out in his wheel chair and they zoom in on Logan's face like he has seen a ghost, representing his surprise that Xavier is alive and treating it like a big reveal.

The fact Magneto has his powers back was already hinted at the end of X-Men 3 when he caused the metal chess piece to wiggle.


#165

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

What makes you say that? From what I know they still connect everything to all the other movies, including 3. If your issue is Xavier and Magneto...
At the end of The Wolverine, while Logan is at the airport, all the people around him suddenly freeze. He notices some metal moving, spins around, but Magneto stops him from attacking by taking control of what is left of his adamantium skeleton. Magneto hints of the coming storm of DOFP, but Logan does not trust him. Then Xavier rolls out in his wheel chair and they zoom in on Logan's face like he has seen a ghost, representing his surprise that Xavier is alive and treating it like a big reveal.

The fact Magneto has his powers back was already hinted at the end of X-Men 3 when he caused the metal chess piece to wiggle.
Was more confusion about Xavier than Magneto.


#166

Bowielee

Bowielee

Why am I not surprised that the Asian trailer focused way more on the Sentinels.


#167

figmentPez

figmentPez

Seriously?

Mutant Milk Chocolate Xmen Pretzels.jpg

"Mutant Milk Chocolate"...


#168

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

....


#169

Tress

Tress

We've all seen product tie-ins before, but the ones for this movie seem especially stupid.


#170

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Yeah it almost feels like they're milking it as hard as they can before giving it up to Marvel. Like, I'm seeing DoFP fucking everywhere. Way more than the other X movies.


#171

bhamv3

bhamv3

Seriously?

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"Mutant Milk Chocolate"...
Beast looks like Jesse Eisenberg here.


#172

Celt Z

Celt Z

He's got some serious pouty-face going on.


#173

Bowielee

Bowielee

There were exactly 2 things that I loved in X-men 3. Iceman finally going full ice form, and Kelsey Grammar as Beast. Such a perfect casting choice...wasted on such a small role in such a bad movie.


#174

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I think I am more amazed that Beast got top billing on anything over half the rest of that cast, even if just a pretzel bag.


#175

Bowielee

Bowielee

Not that surprising. He was one of the main characters of First Class.


#176

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

There were exactly 2 things that I loved in X-men 3. Iceman finally going full ice form, and Kelsey Grammar as Beast. Such a perfect casting choice...wasted on such a small role in such a bad movie.
I think I heard somewhere that they've filmed a small scene with Grammar for this new movie.


#177

Bowielee

Bowielee

True story, the first time I saw Kelsey Grammar playing Frasier on Cheers, he IMMEDIATELY became the voice of Beast in my head. I was so excited when that casting was announced and so disappointed when the movie finally came out and he ended up being a minor character, at best.

As for the subject at hand... I'm REALLY worried about this movie being over-bloated. I'm fairly certain that it's a justifiable concern.


#178

bhamv3

bhamv3

I think I heard somewhere that they've filmed a small scene with Grammar for this new movie.
... He's gonna die, isn't he.


#179

Bowielee

Bowielee

... He's gonna die, isn't he.
ALL the original X-Men cast will probably die, if they're sticking anywhere near the comic version.

For the record, I'm STILL brooding about them killing off Cyclops in X3. The first infuriating scene of many.


#180

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Not that surprising. He was one of the main characters of First Class.
Yes, but that was before he had to compete with the "classic" actors like Logan the "I get two of my own movies" Wolverine.


#181

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

ALL the original X-Men cast will probably die, if they're sticking anywhere near the comic version.

For the record, I'm STILL brooding about them killing off Cyclops in X3. The first infuriating scene of many.
Man, I hate hate hate how they treated him in the movies. Dude is a master tactician and trained in multiple forms of hand to hand combat, plus is optic blast is STUPID powerful.

Dude gets his ass kicked by Toad, spends 90% of the first two movies looking like he's about to cry, and then gets fucking evaporated in the third. The only thing they got right was his borderline-stalker obsession with Jean.


#182

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I liked the moment in X3 when Wolverine stumbles on the scene where Cyclops found Jean, and you see the rocks floating--and then Cyclops's glasses. It was eerie.

... and that's the only moment I liked. I thought they were going to find him alive later, but no. I certainly didn't think the movie's final line would be (paraphrasing) "nice job, furball".


#183

bhamv3

bhamv3

I liked the moment in X3 when Wolverine stumbles on the scene where Cyclops found Jean, and you see the rocks floating--and then Cyclops's glasses. It was eerie.

... and that's the only moment I liked. I thought they were going to find him alive later, but no. I certainly didn't think the movie's final line would be (paraphrasing) "nice job, furball".
Seems to me they kept his death off-screen in case of future sequels.

Joke's on them, of course, he's not going to be in Days of Future Past (as far as I'm aware), so they might as well have shown him dying.

But yeah, turning Cyclops into a massive weenie was one of the things I disliked about the X-men movies.


#184

Bowielee

Bowielee

Well, to be fair, Cyclops IS a giant weenie...


#185

bhamv3

bhamv3

Well, to be fair, Cyclops IS a giant weenie...
Not to the extent he was in the movies, I believe.


#186

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Well, to be fair, Cyclops IS a giant weenie...
Nah.



#187

Bowielee

Bowielee

Nah.

And that was right in the middle of his decent into becoming the new Magneto, so not representative of him overall.


#188

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Seems to me they kept his death off-screen in case of future sequels.

Joke's on them, of course, he's not going to be in Days of Future Past (as far as I'm aware), so they might as well have shown him dying.

But yeah, turning Cyclops into a massive weenie was one of the things I disliked about the X-men movies.
Actually, I think it made for a stronger scene for them not to find his body. Not giving Brett Ratner or producers any credit; just a stroke of luck that they ended up being indecisive.

Not that it matters; the movie's still a piece of shit. If a perfect casting choice like Kelsey Grammar (my thoughts on that mirror Bowie's) can't save that movie, a single moment of restraint wouldn't have a chance. Man, that movie sucked.

I like how at the end, Magneto is allowed to live free as an old man in the park just because he doesn't have powers anymore. Um, if you take someone's weapon away, that doesn't change the fact that they killed a shit-ton of people. Argh, stupid movie!


#189

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

I honestly can't think of any time he's really been that bad, outside of the Jean stuff that Wolverine does too and in the movies. Maybe the 90's cartoon, I can't remember much of it.


#190

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

And that was right in the middle of his decent into becoming the new Magneto, so not representative of him overall.
Say what? That wasn't even remotely close. Whedon's arc where that page comes from is almost ten years old and the whole "Scott going evil" is only like two years old.


#191

Bowielee

Bowielee

Say what? That wasn't even remotely close. Whedon's arc where that page comes from is almost ten years old and the whole "Scott going evil" is only like two years old.
You haven't been paying attention then. Scott's been moving towards the darkside for years, starting mainly with House of M when mutants became an endangered species. This is well after he established X-Force as the wetworks branch of the X-men. This is all the stuff that lead to Schism and eventually t AvX where he officially goes evil.


#192

Celt Z

Celt Z

I'll take evil Cyclops over brown-nosing, milquetoast, self-righteous Cyclops we've had... always. I've always been inclined to think "Shut up, Scott!" every time his dialogue balloon would pop up in an X-Men comic. The movies always left me torn because I really like James Marsden, but since the first movie established what we're all thinking ("...You're a dick." Thanks, Joss!), I've given Cyclops a pass.


#193

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I'll take evil Cyclops over brown-nosing, milquetoast, self-righteous Cyclops we've had... always. I've always been inclined to think "Shut up, Scott!" every time his dialogue balloon would pop up in an X-Men comic. The movies always left me torn because I really like James Marsden, but since the first movie established what we're all thinking ("...You're a dick." Thanks, Joss!), I've given Cyclops a pass.
In other words, James Marsden did a really good job.


#194

Celt Z

Celt Z

In other words, James Marsden did a really good job.
He did. I managed not to scream "Shut up, Scott!" every time he was on screen. :D

(... okay, maybe once or twice. Old habits die hard.)


#195

Espy

Espy

I think I am more amazed that Beast got top billing on anything over half the rest of that cast, even if just a pretzel bag.
Maybe there are wisps of sugary blue hair in there?


#196

Gryfter

Gryfter

I always thought Cyclops died in X3 in retaliation for James Marsden doing Superman Returns. *shrug* I could be reading too much into that though.


#197

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I always thought Cyclops died in X3 in retaliation for James Marsden doing Superman Returns. *shrug* I could be reading too much into that though.
Pretty much. Him dropping out of his contract forced them to have to alter the story to write off the character.

Whether it was done out of malice for him leaving or just as a way to prevent the audience from questioning where Cyclops is during a movie that heavily involves Jean Grey, who knows.


#198

Bowielee

Bowielee

That was one of my bugaboos about all the X-men movies. The fact that they favored the Wolverine/Jean Grey over the Scott/Jean relationship was completely contrary to the comics.


#199

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Seriously?

"Mutant Milk Chocolate"...
See! I warned you guys about MONSANTO!!!!


#200

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

That was one of my bugaboos about all the X-men movies. The fact that they favored the Wolverine/Jean Grey over the Scott/Jean relationship was completely contrary to the comics.
The problem is Jackman's Wolverine is basically carrying the entire movie franchise on his back. If he ever gets tired of the role I wager the whole franchise is going to sink.


#201

filmfanatic

filmfanatic

The problem is Jackman's Wolverine is basically carrying the entire movie franchise on his back. If he ever gets tired of the role I wager the whole franchise is going to sink.
Fun fact: Bryan Singer's first choice for casting Wolverine in the first film was originally Russell Crowe.


#202

Piotyr

Piotyr

Fun fact: Bryan Singer's first choice for casting Wolverine in the first film was originally Russell Crowe.


#203

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Fun fact: Bryan Singer's first choice for casting Wolverine in the first film was originally Russell Crowe.


#204

bhamv3

bhamv3

I heard Kurt Russell was also in the running, which I also think would've been a decent choice. Bit old though, but he's got the look and the demeanor for it.

Still think Jackman did a spectacular job though.


#205

klew

klew

Dougray Scott also turned down the role to be in Mission Impossible 2.


#206

bhamv3

bhamv3

Early reviews are coming in. On the whole, they're looking good.


#207

Steve

Steve

Just got back from the movie and this is the X-Men movie that I wanted. Best of the franchise (IMO) and one of the best movies based on comics. And best Wolverine since X Men 2. Quicksilver was so entertaining I wanted to see more of him. We finally get to see the X-Men in a couple of serious battles and it's glorious. I don't want to say too much about the movie until others have seen it but I left the theater pumped up and was ready to walk back in and watch it again. I don't think you all will be disappointed.


#208

filmfanatic

filmfanatic

Just got back from the movie and this is the X-Men movie that I wanted. Best of the franchise (IMO) and one of the best movies based on comics. And best Wolverine since X Men 2. Quicksilver was so entertaining I wanted to see more of him. We finally get to see the X-Men in a couple of serious battles and it's glorious. I don't want to say too much about the movie until others have seen it but I left the theater pumped up and was ready to walk back in and watch it again. I don't think you all will be disappointed.
I just saw it as well, and I agree with the sentiment. It is the best X-Men film yet and, honestly, feels like a true culmination of the franchise. Not just in bringing together cast members old and new or bringing back Bryan Singer to direct, but in how the story touches and feels its influence from throughout the series. Highly recommend that folks go out and see this.

Also, there is a post-credits scene.


#209

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Also, there is a post-credits scene.
Thanks for the heads up.

I tried telling my friend to wait through the Godzilla credits so we could see Nick Fury recruit Godzilla...


#210

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vid...st&utm_medium=index_carousel&utm_campaign=all

MovieBob wasn't crazy about it. He liked it, but not as much as First Class. He notes that the series of movies have never moved away from the Charles vs. Magneto thing, which I don't think he's entirely wrong.

Still, it sounds like it's good enough to at least see in theatres. I think I've said before that I'm not the biggest X-Fan, so I'm not in a huge rush to see it.


#211

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vid...st&utm_medium=index_carousel&utm_campaign=all

MovieBob wasn't crazy about it. He liked it, but not as much as First Class. He notes that the series of movies have never moved away from the Charles vs. Magneto thing, which I don't think he's entirely wrong.

Still, it sounds like it's good enough to at least see in theatres. I think I've said before that I'm not the biggest X-Fan, so I'm not in a huge rush to see it.
I really don't blame them for not doing it... all the interesting stories may have included dinosaurs, going into space, and other weirdness, but that might not translate to the screen so well. Now that shit was hella awesome on the TV show, but as a movie I'd have some doubts.

Honestly, I think we're going to get House of M next and they will use that to reboot the movies. Then maybe we can get some weird shit like the Savage Land.


#212

filmfanatic

filmfanatic

I really don't blame them for not doing it... all the interesting stories may have included dinosaurs, going into space, and other weirdness, but that might not translate to the screen so well. Now that shit was hella awesome on the TV show, but as a movie I'd have some doubts.

Honestly, I think we're going to get House of M next and they will use that to reboot the movies. Then maybe we can get some weird shit like the Savage Land.
...If you see it, stick around for the post-credits scene. You'll learn what they'll do next.


#213

Frank

Frank

So how do they explain Sentinels existing since the 70s?


#214

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

So how do they explain Sentinels existing since the 70s?
I have not seen the movie yet, but from what I understand from talking with people...
The future Sentinels are built sometime in the future of the existing X-Men timeline. When Wolvarine goes back in time, he alters history to such a point that the Sentinel program is accelerated rather then cancelled, leading to the ones built in the 70s that appear in the movie.


#215

filmfanatic

filmfanatic

Actually, it's more like...

the Sentinels don't show up right away. Rather, when Mystique manages to assassinate Bolivar Trask, they capture her and perform experiments on her. These experiments allow them to design more advanced Sentinels, ones that can adapt to various effects and mutant powers. They aren't launched for years, but once they do, they cause the bad future featured in the trailers.

Non-spoiler: The futuristic adaptive Sentinels don't appear until later in the timeline. The more traditional-looking Sentinels show up in 1973 due to advanced action as a result of the plot.


#216

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Also, there is a post-credits scene.
En Sabah Nur! En Sabah Nur! En Sabah Nur! En Sabah Nur!


#217

filmfanatic

filmfanatic

En Sabah Nur! En Sabah Nur! En Sabah Nur! En Sabah Nur!
Word is, the next film will have the 1980s as its time setting.


#218

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Well, wasn't expecting to be excited for the next X movie after watching this, but man this was pretty good. Quicksilver was actually pretty great, though you don't see a whole lot of him.


#219

Jay

Jay

Watched it. It was good but god do I hate the time warp crutch storylines.

Couple of awesome moments, dragged on in the middle lots of continuity holes (of course). All in all a decent movie.

Kinda makes the first 3 pointless.

Also, a whole bunch of scenes of "Paris" is actually old port Montreal... where Adam and I watched a specific scene.


#220

GasBandit

GasBandit

Canada's so much cheaper to film in. I remember how "Rumble in the Bronx," aside from a few establishing shots, was filmed in Vancouver.


#221

Jay

Jay

We get at least about a dozen films in Montreal. They always seem to film at the old port (which is very French-like).

Just last week, my wife took a picture of Joseph Gordon-Levitt from her office who was filming on the street.



#222

Bowielee

Bowielee

Watched it. It was good but god do I hate the time warp crutch storylines.
You can't really say it's a crutch for this movie seeing as it's based on one of the most prominent X-Men stories of all time.[DOUBLEPOST=1401584808,1401584762][/DOUBLEPOST]I don't know if it's just because we've had so many bad X-Men movies, but I loved the hell out of this one.


#223

evilmike

evilmike

I don't know if it's just because we've had so many bad X-Men movies, but I loved the hell out of this one.
I would image it's because DoFP is not only much better than several other movies in the franchise, it actually erases them from existence.


#224

Bowielee

Bowielee

Yeah, I like how the whole movie ends up being a big old screw you from Brian Singer about the movies he didn't make. It basically says, X3 and Origins sucked, so guess what... never happened.

Also, in universe movie retcon. The superhero movie genre really is becoming just like the source material.


#225

GasBandit

GasBandit

Yeah, I like how the whole movie ends up being a big old screw you from Brian Singer about the movies he didn't make. It basically says, X3 and Origins sucked, so guess what... never happened.

Also, in universe movie retcon. The superhero movie genre really is becoming just like the source material.

Actually, it doesn't preclude Origins:Wolverine. Perhaps it won't happen exactly like it, but when "past" James Howlett wakes up, he won't remember anything else. Post-vietnam Sabretooth will still be coming after him, and Stryker's still out there doing Project X - though I suppose it's possible that Mystique runs interference since she has "possession" of him now.

But it does retcon/erase X2, X3, and probably The Wolverine.


#226

Bowielee

Bowielee

I don't see how it erases X2. It still ends with the image of the Phoenix in the water, so there's no reason Jean doesn't come back.


#227

GasBandit

GasBandit

I don't see how it erases X2. It still ends with the image of the Phoenix in the water, so there's no reason Jean doesn't come back.
Because X2 takes place before wolverine returns from the past, and the events of X2 have not taken place. Phoenix is, however of course, part of the Jean Gray character arc, so it may figure in somehow yet.


#228

Bowielee

Bowielee

Because X2 takes place before wolverine returns from the past, and the events of X2 have not taken place. Phoenix is, however of course, part of the Jean Gray character arc, so it may figure in somehow yet.
By that logic, it also erases the first movie. Because the first two were Brian Singers' movies, I'm pretty sure he's keeping the events of those two films as cannon.


#229

GasBandit

GasBandit

By that logic, it also erases the first movie. Because the first two were Brian Singers' movies, I'm pretty sure he's keeping the events of those two films as cannon.
Except plainly at least some of the events of the first move have still come to pass. Rogue attends the Xavier school, and Wolverine teaches. It hasn't said explicitly that magneto still tried to use Rogue's powers to mutate others, so that part may not have happened.

(Also, canon with 1 N means "accepted as part of the story," with 2 Ns means artillery)

That's why I said Origins probably still happened - wolverine still gets his adamantium no doubt, and obviously young Scott Summers is rescued from Project X.


#230

Bowielee

Bowielee

Oh god, I made a spelling error.

Yeah, with the timeline change thing, every event from all the movies could or could not have happened with the exception of the death of Scott Summers.


#231

GasBandit

GasBandit

Oh god, I made a spelling error.
Sorry, I couldn't help it -

[DOUBLEPOST=1401627681,1401627584][/DOUBLEPOST]Anyway, here's some fun reading about the X-Men timeline.


#232

evilmike

evilmike

Logically, the timeline shifted enough that all of the movies are affected. It's just that DoFP went out of its way to show us that X-Men 3 didn't happen (and to a lesser extent the first Wolverine movie.)


#233

Bowielee

Bowielee

I mean, they've always played fast and loose with continuity, this movie gives them a great opportunity to rewrite things in a way that doesn't suck :p


#234

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

For those who wish to relive it:


#235

Bowielee

Bowielee

That scene was just brilliant.


#236

Steve

Steve

Bryan Singer should be the only one allowed to write/direct a Wolverine movie. He did a great job with Logan in this movie. And the best Wolverine scene of the franchise was X-Men 2 when Stryker's men invade the mansion.

I do wish we would have gotten one future scene of Wolverine tearing apart a sentinel with his adamantium claws.


#237

Krisken

Krisken

For those who wish to relive it:
Damn it, I have to see this.


#238

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Just got back from seeing it. While I don't think it was as good as First Class (arguably the best of the franchise), it's pretty darn close. It's not without its faults, of course. Quicksilver was pretty awesome, but his appearance felt really tacked on alongside the rest of the plot. It was like, "Look, here he is! He's doing really awesome stuff! And for some reason, won't be riding along for the rest of the movie!" At least it didn't feel even remotely as forced as Gambit's appearance in Wolverine's first movie. At least here, he served a good and useful purpose, even if his exclusion from the rest of the film didn't make sense.

Gonna put the rest behind a spoiler.
Absolutely LOVED the unexpected cameos at the end. I honestly didn't expect them at all. I'd heard Kelsey Grammar was going to make a quick cameo and kind of saw that coming - even if it still made me giddy. But Scott and Jean? Didn't expect that at all. That was a really welcome surprise. When they showed Jean from behind, I thought for sure it would be a fake-out and have Rachel Summers instead. But then Scott appeared, too? Awesome. Really pleasant surprises. I won't lie. I got a little teary eyed at the reunion. Goes to show I still actually give a damn about these characters, even a little. Not sure if that's the strength of the previous movies, the strength of this one, or nostalgia. Maybe a mix of the three.

And honestly, even though we all knew how it was going to end, the final action scenes still had me on the edge of my seat. Great action, great effects, and great acting from the guys who you know always bring the goods. Seriously, Fassbender and McAvoy were as brilliant, if not better, than last time around. They're on par with Stewart and McKellen in those roles, I think, and possibly better in some respects. And surprisingly, while he had a big presence in the movie, Wolverine was more of a background player for most of this. Yeah, he was in most scenes, but he wasn't the driving force behind the plot. He was mostly there to help set things in motion while Magneto, Xavier, and Mystique did most of the heavy lifting (literally, in Magneto's case).
So yeah, overall? Pretty great. As good as First Class? Don't think so, but it's a comfortable second, with X-2 being a close third.


#239

Bowielee

Bowielee

I think Wolverine is best used as part of an ensemble. In the comics and the movies.


#240

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I think Wolverine is best used as part of an ensemble. In the comics and the movies.
Agreed. I feel the same way about The Hulk most times.


#241

Frank

Frank

I he-sploosh for Fassbender.

I liked it and it didn't suffer from as much clusterfuckedness as I thought it would.

It has some very convenient plot niggles here and there, but otherwise it's great. I do like that it just straight gives the finger to X3.


#242

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

I do like that it just straight gives the finger to X3.
There was definitely a bit of, "How dare you sully what I have wrought!" thing going on.


#243



Anonymous

It wasn't bad but there was so much of "This is happening now, no we aren't going to explain it, you either get on board or get left behind."
In what possible way did it make sense to not have Quicksilver come with you to Paris? You can't show someone doing what he did and then just say "Hey great work... alright, see ya later!"

I guess Kitty can send people's consciousness back in time now because someone had to? Why have it be her beyond she's been established. They threw like 4 new mutants at us and never really established them so why not make one of them able to do it instead of arbitrarily shoving a new power unrelated to her previous ones at her. I get that they evolve and can gain new powers but they are typically related to their previous ones. I guess she walked them through the walls of reality and time? Did Bishop teach her how to do that?

I know there is this accepted theory going around that Xavier takes control of his comatose twins body at the end of of X3, but really in the context of the films he's just back and beyond Logan's moderate surprise at the end of The Wolverine in the airport no one really seems to be concerned a dead man is rolling again. Yes there is a time gap between those movies and the post sentinel era scenes in this movie but it just strikes me as odd it's never addressed. I get that they were closing to ignore much of X3, which would have included has death, but they can't have dismissed all of it otherwise there is no big relief when everyone is back at the end.

Plot canyons aside, it was fun to watch. I'm just surprised by the nearly universally glowing ratings it's receiving. Whole thing just felt messy and convenient.

Am I the only one put off by the fights as well? I realize they are choreographed and done in steps but it feels like I can watch the actors going "and punch, now spin to the left, duck, lunge, twist, stare, hold it, release, and high kick."


#244

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

*pssst* The spoiler tag is singular, Mr/Ms. Super-Secret-Film-Reviewer!


#245

Far

Far

That was me. Must have hit post as anonymous. I can actually never remember what the spoiler tag is and nearly every time have to go back and edit it. The auto corrected words and those tags being like they are and unable to edit them is kind of driving me mad.

Edit : thanks @Dave


#246

Dave

Dave

You know there's a little symbol on the bar for spoilers, right? Just outline the text you want spoiled and click the eye with the line through it.


#247

GasBandit

GasBandit

That was me. Must have hit post as anonymous. I can actually never remember what the spoiler tag is and nearly every time have to go back and edit it. The auto corrected words and those tags being like they are and unable to edit them is kind of driving me mad.

Edit : thanks @Dave
Use the button that looks like a crossed out eye, it's much faster. Last one on the bar above the text area. Just select what you want spoilered, and click.

Edit: DAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE


#248

Dave

Dave

Beat ya, Gas!


#249

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

It's kind of a propos for this thread, in a way.


#250

Far

Far

Use the button that looks like a crossed out eye, it's much faster. Last one on the bar above the text area. Just select what you want spoilered, and click.

Edit: DAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE
I'm usually on tapatalk, though that's been acting odd lately.


#251

Dave

Dave

I wonder if they updated something again. Damn they do that a lot.


#252

Bowielee

Bowielee

I know there is this accepted theory going around that Xavier takes control of his comatose twins body at the end of of X3, but really in the context of the films he's just back and beyond Logan's moderate surprise at the end of The Wolverine in the airport no one really seems to be concerned a dead man is rolling again. Yes there is a time gap between those movies and the post sentinel era scenes in this movie but it just strikes me as odd it's never addressed. I get that they were closing to ignore much of X3, which would have included has death, but they can't have dismissed all of it otherwise there is no big relief when everyone is back at the end.
That's not really a theory, they establish that he's back in the after credits scene of X3.


#253

Far

Far

That's not really a theory, they establish that he's back in the after credits scene of X3.
Wasnt disputing that he's back, I even said it was in X3, rather the how or why. That is never explained and it feels lazy. It's been awhile since I've seen it the first trilogy but I don't recall them ever mentioning he even had a brother


#254

GasBandit

GasBandit

X3 was pretty shitty.


#255

Far

Far

Ah apparently there is a scene where he discusses that while probably possible, whether it would be ethically right to transfer his conscience.


#256

Bowielee

Bowielee

Wasnt disputing that he's back, I even said it was in X3, rather the how or why. That is never explained and it feels lazy. It's been awhile since I've seen it the first trilogy but I don't recall them ever mentioning he even had a brother
Yeah, what GB said :p


#257

Frank

Frank

I think far sillier is he's still wheelchair bound in the new body.


#258

Far

Far

Yeah, what GB said
No arguments there.

Or to what @Frank brought up either.


#259

Bowielee

Bowielee

Then again, in the comics he's constantly in and out of the chair as well.


#260

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

X3 was pretty shitty.
THERE'S an understatement.


#261

Covar

Covar

So...

Not a bad movie, but man there were several really, really dumb things in this movie.
Trask was really lucky that every mutant he encountered when he started going off on his "THERE'S A MUTANT IN HERE KILL IT!" crazy train was actually an evil mutant trying to kill someone. Especially since he nearly destroys brand new international relations when he has Stryker, a US officer, draw his gun on Vietnamese and Chinese officials.

The whole movie would have resolved itself if one police officer, military service member, reporter, or government official was a mutant shot by those sentinels once turned on. Fortunately for our antagonists every mutant encountered was out to solve their issues with violence against them.

Now I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the White House is bigger than a baseball diamond. I almost laughed out loud in the theater when they showed that overhead shot.


#262

Bubble181

Bubble181

Now I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the White House is bigger than a baseball diamond. I almost laughed out loud in the theater when they showed that overhead shot.
So, I looked it up. The white house is, according to the official numbers, 168 feet (51.2 meters) long and 85 feet 6 inches (26.1 meters) wide without porticoes; 152 feet wide with porticoes. Wikipedia tells me the size of an official baseball diamond is 60 feet 6 inches (wtf?) from pitcher's mound to home plate, and 95 feet from pitcher's mound to the edge of the infield. Homeplate-to-edge, in a straight line, is 155 feet, while it's slightly less across. The white house is larger, but really not by much.


#263

evilmike

evilmike

So, I looked it up. The white house is, according to the official numbers, 168 feet (51.2 meters) long and 85 feet 6 inches (26.1 meters) wide without porticoes; 152 feet wide with porticoes. Wikipedia tells me the size of an official baseball diamond is 60 feet 6 inches (wtf?) from pitcher's mound to home plate, and 95 feet from pitcher's mound to the edge of the infield. Homeplate-to-edge, in a straight line, is 155 feet, while it's slightly less across. The white house is larger, but really not by much.
From Wikipedia:

RFK Stadium:
Field size
Left Field
: 335 ft (102 m)
Left-Center: 380 ft (116 m)
Center Field: 410 ft (125 m)
Right-Center: 380 ft (116 m)
Right Field: 335 ft (102 m)
Backstop: 54 ft (16 m)

It seems like plenty of room.


#264

GasBandit

GasBandit

It'd be kinda snug, but you could do it. It'd destroy those buildings on either side of it though.

whitehouserfk.JPG


#265

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I don't know my American history, but were those buildings there in the 70s?


#266

GasBandit

GasBandit

I don't know my American history, but were those buildings there in the 70s?
Those buildings are the west and east wings, built in 1902 and 1942 respectively. Funnily enough, the presidential emergency bomb shelter is in the east wing, not the Executive residence (middle building) as depicted in the movie.


#267

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Well, it's not like we refer to superhero comics for historical accuracy, anyway. :p


#268

bhamv3

bhamv3

Well, it's not like we refer to superhero comics for historical accuracy, anyway. :p
I learned more about the Cuban Missile Crisis from First Class than I did from history class.

I probably should've paid more attention in history class.


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