[Movies] Guardians of the Galaxy

What is it with Guardians of the Galaxy causing martial strife?
When GotG opened two weeks ago, it was the same weekend as my family reunion, which meant we'd be out of town from Friday-Monday. Mr.Z had to work both Friday and Saturday, so he would be joining us Sunday morning. Li'l Z was already out with me, so Mr. Z was getting to play "bachelor" both those nights. He kept teasing me that he was going to see GotG without me, which is kinda a big deal, because I really wanted to see on the big screen (something we don't get to do much anymore), and since Li'l Z was born, Mr. Z has gotten to go out with adults many more times than I have. (To be fair, he does ask me if I'm okay with it first.) So, Sautrday rolls around and it's pouring rain, cancelling the events we had planned at the reunion. Everyone wants to go see GotG instead, and my mother offers to watch Li'l Z so I can go. That meant calling Mr. Z, after me getting on his case about seeing it without me, and asking him if he's okay with me going. In the end, he was fine with me going, and even though he could have gone that night on his own, he never did. (Not out of dedication: he was just lazy.) There's a pretty good chance we're going to see it (again) this Friday for our anniversary.

Shawnacy, other people have given good advice above, and I know no one knows your situation better than you, but if your kids are a very important part of life (and I have no doubt they are), you guys really need to reevaluation your current arrangement. Kids need to see that a healthy relationship is about compromise from both sides and being able to talk things out, not "do it, then ask for forgiveness", or in this case, "I don't care if you forgive me or not". Mr. Z and I both had parents (now divorced) who made a lot of selfish choices, and while we were aware they weren't good examples of a healthy marriage, we still saw a marriage counselor at one point to keep ourselves from repeating the same mistakes. Part of that means BOTH sides respecting that there will be times where you do thing individually, as long as it's not a huge disruption to the family's schedule. Seeing a movie she's already seen without you shouldn't be a crisis.

...Oh, back on point: I am Groot.
 
Yeah, I know I'm a broken record but @Shawnacy, you guys should look into low-cost/sliding scale (since I'm sure money is tight with a big family) options for marriage counseling. A good therapist can help you guys actually communicate better about this stuff and give you each some tools to talk to each other in healthier ways, which will result in better communication about these issues. The reality is there's a lot of surface issues you have talked about, which are very real, but they are also usually indicative of other things that aren't as obvious. Does that make sense?

At the very least, if you feel like you guys aren't hearing each other consider trying some reflective listening, where the other person repeats what they are hearing the other saying. It's fascinating sometimes to hear what the other person THINKS you are saying and vice versa. My wife and I have found many issues can be resolved with each other by just learning to "hear" each other better with that tool.
 
Last edited:
At the very least, if you feel like you guys aren't hearing each other consider trying some reflective listening, where the other person repeats what they believe the other to be saying. It's fascinating sometimes to hear what the other person THINKS you are saying and vice versa.
I'm sure we do it horribly wrong, since we're not in therapy or anything, but "saying what I think you meant" is probably our #2 reason for fights, right after her interpreting my being grumpy or annoyed because of work or depression as me being grumpy/annoyed at her (I'm well aware I tend to take it out on her, and that's my fault and I should actually get some therapy for that sometime, but all this is an irrelevant aside). :p
 
I'm sure we do it horribly wrong, since we're not in therapy or anything, but "saying what I think you meant" is probably our #2 reason for fights, right after her interpreting my being grumpy or annoyed because of work or depression as me being grumpy/annoyed at her (I'm well aware I tend to take it out on her, and that's my fault and I should actually get some therapy for that sometime, but all this is an irrelevant aside). :p
Sorry, I explained it poorly, it's less "What I think you mean" and more trying to accurately say it back to the person saying it to make sure you have heard them clearly. Wikipedia describes it as this and it's pretty spot on: "Reflective listening is a communication strategy involving two key steps: seeking to understand a speaker's idea, then offering the idea back to the speaker, to confirm the idea has been understood correctly."

This helps the person originally talking feel heard and understood and it helps the person listening to them try and understand it from their point of view. It actually can seem silly when you are doing it but man, it can completely change the dynamic of a normal fight pattern. And believe me, every couple has a pattern of fighting.
 
Last edited:
Jet wants to see this movie. Blue saw it the weekend and said it would be alright for him.

Opinions? Jet is five now, incase you are wondering but he has seen Star Wars and Hell Boy (though we had to talk about when not to use 'hell' after) and, like, Pacific Rim.
 
Jet wants to see this movie. Blue saw it the weekend and said it would be alright for him.

Opinions? Jet is five now, incase you are wondering but he has seen Star Wars and Hell Boy (though we had to talk about when not to use 'hell' after) and, like, Pacific Rim.
If he's seen Pacific Rim and Hellboy, he'll be fine with this.
 
Jet wants to see this movie. Blue saw it the weekend and said it would be alright for him.

Opinions? Jet is five now, in case you are wondering but he has seen Star Wars and Hell Boy (though we had to talk about when not to use 'hell' after) and, like, Pacific Rim.
Based on those movies it's shouldn't be a problem at all. There's some impalement, but nothing horribly graphic. I would put the violence on par with all those movies you listed.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Jet wants to see this movie. Blue saw it the weekend and said it would be alright for him.

Opinions? Jet is five now, incase you are wondering but he has seen Star Wars and Hell Boy (though we had to talk about when not to use 'hell' after) and, like, Pacific Rim.
There's a little bit of language liberally interspersed, but the actual content should be fine. To quote cinemablend, there's "a handful of 'shits,' a few 'dicks,' and a well-timed 'bitch.'"
 
Jet wants to see this movie. Blue saw it the weekend and said it would be alright for him.

Opinions? Jet is five now, incase you are wondering but he has seen Star Wars and Hell Boy (though we had to talk about when not to use 'hell' after) and, like, Pacific Rim.
There's a few scenes with adult language, but as long as he knows not to repeat bad words, he should be good. All of the violence in the movie is about on par with Star Wars, there's no blood or gore, it's all stylized comic-booky pulpiness.
 
Actually, I just had a great idea. See it yourself first, to judge if Jet will be ok with it, and then bring Jet, because that way you have an excuse to see it twice!

I wanna see it again... stupid work and the nearest movie theater being an hour away.
 
Jet wants to see this movie. Blue saw it the weekend and said it would be alright for him.

Opinions? Jet is five now, incase you are wondering but he has seen Star Wars and Hell Boy (though we had to talk about when not to use 'hell' after) and, like, Pacific Rim.
ChristianAnswers.net says this:
Violence: Heavy. People are killed by lasers, explosions, debris, hammer and knives but usually from a distance and bloodless, except for one scene where blood is seen pooling almost ritualistically from an off-screen kill. Killings and severe injuries that take place nearer or close up include impaling, stabbings, ripping out of head/brain implants, shots to the head, crushing of heads, freezing, drowning, electric shock and total disintegration. Scenes of torture include being locked up like an animal, being hosed down in prison and fingers up the nose (and then further into the head). The violence alone makes it unsuitable for younger children.

Language: Moderate. Crude words heard include… sh** (3), bitc* (1), two separate euphemisms for male genitalia (pr**k 1x, d**k 3x), “a-holes” (instead of full word was used twice), whore (1), bastard (2), asses (2), hell (3), damn (2), screw (1), freakin’ (5), crap (1) and the Lord’s name was taken in vain twice, plus once us of “Good God.” Thankfully, the “F” bomb was not used. Off-color rhetoric includs talk of uptight people as having “sticks up their butts” and of Quill having numerous female companions, but none were serious. Some of the lyrics from the older 70s/80s songs Quill listens to are descriptive, along the lines of “making love” and having affairs, but are mostly background music. Language should likewise be a red flag to parents with children.

Sex/Nudity: Mild. Quill is hosed down in prison while shirtless and wearing only boxers. Gamora and Nebula are both in tight-fitting clothes, and Quill follows Gamora’s leather-clad backside as she walks up some stairs. Some of the conversation contains diffused innuendo, not pronounced, and are only implied, as were Quills’ “relationships.” The most inappropriate scene involves Quill landing on Gamora during a fall, and though his body is placed both atop and between her legs, it is a non sexually charged moment.

Don't go to the link unless you want some heavy movie spoilers. I've spoilered the long quote from them as well, but reading it shouldn't ruin your movie experience.

I dig ChristianAnswers movie reivews, even though they're fairly preachy. They are pretty thorough about noting all the possible problem bits, make it easy to see, at a glance, whether or not I'll have to have any kind of talk with my kid before/after seeing a movie, even if I don't necessarily agree with their assessments.
 
you're a grown ass man, you can go to the movies whenever you want.
I'm a grown-ass man, and I can go to the movies whenever I want as well. But I don't, because I have grown-ass responsibilities and a family to take care of and a grown-ass man knows what's most important.

I do frequently wish that doing the right thing so regularly was more...immediately rewarding, though.

--Patrick
 
Last edited:
Thinking about it, I realized that what Marvel movies offer, especially over DC movies, is the emotional experience. You *feel* for the characters, you feel with them, the emotional connection is palpable. I can't say I honestly felt much when Rachel Dawes got killed by the Joker; she was really just an emotional bone for Bruce and Harvey to fight over and to cause them angst. Compare that to how many single lines get you right in the heart in the Marvel movies:

"His name is Phil."

"I'm with you, to the end of the line."

"We are Groot."
 
As of two days ago our household consisted of the six family members (us and the 4 kids), 2 giant rabbits, 6 chickens in the backyard, and 1 dog. I have voiced concern and disapproval at every pet addition on the grounds that we do not have the time/energy or money for it. EVery time she has ignored me and even once said "I didn't ask because I knew you would say no." .Yesterday she upped that two 2 dogs when she "found" a puppy wandering the street and brought it home. She asked me if she could keep it (after buying $200 in stuff from Petsmart). My exact words were "You would just ignore me if I objected so all I can be is supportive". She seemed pleased with that answer and was very happy afterward.
I have friends like that. They have waaaaaay too many pets and hardly make any money. They can barely take care of themselves, yet every time I visit there's another pet. What happens is they visit an animal shelter and feel sorry for the animals. All the shelter volunteers need to do is say, "This one's a handful, but people should just give him a chance. It's a shame he'll be put down if nobody adopts him by tomorrow." Then those suckers come home with a new pet that destroys their furniture, excretes odoriferous fluids and/or gases, and acts like a general nuisance.

When they kept complaining about their new goat kid, I got fed up and offered to cook it for them (I wanted to try a Game of Thrones recipe). They almost took me up on that offer. Seriously, that thing was a nightmare.
 
Last edited:
My 8 year old daughter saw it and was fine, but she was also bored because I am apparently raising her wrong.
 
and whore.
Oooooooh, you must STOP THAT.

Thinking about it, I realized that what Marvel movies offer, especially over DC movies, is the emotional experience. You *feel* for the characters, you feel with them, the emotional connection is palpable. I can't say I honestly felt much when Rachel Dawes got killed by the Joker; she was really just an emotional bone for Bruce and Harvey to fight over and to cause them angst. Compare that to how many single lines get you right in the heart in the Marvel movies:

"His name is Phil."

"I'm with you, to the end of the line."

"We are Groot."
"I called him stupid" nearly got me at the end.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Thinking about it, I realized that what Marvel movies offer, especially over DC movies, is the emotional experience. You *feel* for the characters, you feel with them, the emotional connection is palpable. I can't say I honestly felt much when Rachel Dawes got killed by the Joker; she was really just an emotional bone for Bruce and Harvey to fight over and to cause them angst. Compare that to how many single lines get you right in the heart in the Marvel movies:

"His name is Phil."

"I'm with you, to the end of the line."

"We are Groot."
Almost every major marvel franchise is an allegory on puberty.
 
The whore joke was one of my problems with the movie. Drax is billed as utterly and completely literal and Gamora isn't a whore.
 
Drax also refers to the Sakarans as "paper people" - meaning that he can easily tear through them - so it's likely that after his dip in the Celestial Sauce he was able to comprehend and use some metaphors. At least that's how I took it.
 
Drax also refers to the Sakarans as "paper people" - meaning that he can easily tear through them - so it's likely that after his dip in the Celestial Sauce he was able to comprehend and use some metaphors. At least that's how I took it.
Yeah, exactly. They were little tidbits building up to his big "finger on throat" revelation, and all of those were in the final act.

Character development! :awesome:[DOUBLEPOST=1407881331,1407881279][/DOUBLEPOST]
There's a little bit of language liberally interspersed, but the actual content should be fine. To quote cinemablend, there's "a handful of 'shits,' a few 'dicks,' and a well-timed 'bitch.'"
I'm sure it's nothing he hasn't heard before. :p
 

figmentPez

Staff member
The whore joke was one of my problems with the movie. Drax is billed as utterly and completely literal and Gamora isn't a whore.
Drax doesn't know she isn't a sex worker. Whore is what she was called by the other prisoners, so that's what Drax called her. Like @ScytheRexx said, that's part of the joke.
 
Drax doesn't know she isn't a sex worker. Whore is what she was called by the other prisoners, so that's what Drax called her. Like @ScytheRexx said, that's part of the joke.
Exactly. It's what makes it so funny when later on he calls her that stuff while trying to be nice to her. He literally thought it was a just a nickname of some type rather then an insult and didn't know any better.
 
Top