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People can shit on Tyler Perry for his terrible movies, but when he's just acting in a role, he's fine.
Depends on the material. I really wasn't impressed by Alex Cross or his cameo in Star Trek.
But my issue is that he's way too big to be Baxter Stockman.
 
Depends on the material. I really wasn't impressed by Alex Cross or his cameo in Star Trek.
But my issue is that he's way too big to be Baxter Stockman.
Tyler Perry looked like Sidney Poitier next to Jack from Lost in Alex Cross


ALSO this isn't the first casting for the new awesome Ninja Turtles Movie, they cast Casey Jones as Stephn Amell, aka Arrow from the TV show of that name.
 
"Adam Sandler is becoming unfunny"

...Nooooo, he's been that way for years. His movies are pretty much all reiterations of the same tired tropes and clichés - many of them now being considered offensive - from the '80s and '90s. Eddy Murphy movies from the '80s ad '90s are still funny,but his current movies don't still use the same stereotypes. Sandler movies do. Even his last ones could have been made in 1991 and you wouldn't know. Heck, look at what the problem is now - native american names like "bad breath" and "no bra" - those would've ben perfectly acceptable humor 20 years ago. A part of the population has evolved. Another part hasn't. A large part of Hollywood most certainly hasn't. Sandler's part of that part.
 
Sometimes when things like this come up, I see people say "Well, Mel Brooks did it....". No. Mel Brooks used satire. Characters weren't praised or rewarded for their bigoted views, and underdogs were usually given a "can you believe people think this sh*t is okay?" view to the audience. His work isn't flawless, but he generally didn't "punch-down" for his comedy.

I feel people like Sandler and MacFarlane (and like bubbles said, a chunk of Hollywood) don't understand the difference.
 
Sometimes when things like this come up, I see people say "Well, Mel Brooks did it....". No. Mel Brooks used satire. Characters weren't praised or rewarded for their bigoted views, and underdogs were usually given a "can you believe people think this sh*t is okay?" view to the audience. His work isn't flawless, but he generally didn't "punch-down" for his comedy.

I feel people like Sandler and MacFarlane (and like bubbles said, a chunk of Hollywood) don't understand the difference.
MacFarlane plays physical and emotional abuse with no repercussions for laughs. Paying for Cosmos doesn't get him off the hook for that.
 
Producers actually tried the "Fuck you guys, it's funny" defense. :facepalm:
Actually i don't think they're wrong about it being ok because it's satire, it's just that, to be satire, it actually needs to be funny... and that's where recent Adam Sandler films fail.
 
It's still perfectly possible to make a character funny based off of stereotypes. A lazy black man eating chicken wings and watermelon, or a Jew with a hook nose, a curly beard and being stingy isn't it, anymore, though.
 

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Also, satirizing an already virtually dead movie genre fails because, well, it's already almost dead. Satire works as satire because the issue it's addressing is prominent enough that everyone gets the thin disguise.
 
This kind of made me cringe hard at Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt as well. I mean. It's the ultimate punching down. Like. There's no ambiguity, we just destroyed the native american population. We just fucking wrecked them in every way a group of people can be wrecked. And then Netflix is paying Adam Sandler a shitload of money to film them pooping in a peace pipe 200 years later
 
This kind of made me cringe hard at Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt as well. I mean. It's the ultimate punching down. Like. There's no ambiguity, we just destroyed the native american population. We just fucking wrecked them in every way a group of people can be wrecked. And then Netflix is paying Adam Sandler a shitload of money to film them pooping in a peace pipe 200 years later
Hey now, I'm sure a German movie filled to the brim with offensive Jewish stereotypes would be...umm...Oh yeah, illegal, offensive, and not done because they're not dumb as bricks in their pursuit of squeezing money from the lowest possible denominator :p

(I don't actually mean to imply Germans are in any way better or worse than Americans per se, it's a joke.)
 
Hey now, I'm sure a German movie filled to the brim with offensive Jewish stereotypes would be...umm...Oh yeah, illegal, offensive, and not done because they're not dumb as bricks in their pursuit of squeezing money from the lowest possible denominator
Oh, come on, that's a totally different situation. I mean, it's not like the US Government engaged in a persistent program targeted at one specific group which amounted to genocide and...
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...er, ah...
...you know what? Never mind.

--Patrick
 
whoa whoa, pump your brakes, I don't want it to be illegal to make movies with people taking a shit in peace pipes. I just question Netflix risking their reputation to get in the "movies with people shitting in peace pipes" business with Adam Sandler for 100s of millions of dollars.
 
Also, satirizing an already virtually dead movie genre fails because, well, it's already almost dead. Satire works as satire because the issue it's addressing is prominent enough that everyone gets the thin disguise.
See, Blazing Saddles worked as a parody of Westerns because it held true to a lot of the plot cliches of the standard Hollywood Western, then exploding those same cliches. Cowboys eating beans and drinking coffee around a campfire was a genre convention. The rampant flatulence such a diet would cause, however, was shocking and unexpected and hilarious. Sioux braves attacking a wagon train was a genre convention. The Indians speaking Yiddish and letting the black settlers go because they'd never seen people darker than themselves before, however, is another story. Poking fun at the rampant underlying racism of most Westerns and the common folk involved, that's funny.

Making disgusting, immature jokes which portray natives as ignorant backwards primitives who use dead animals for hygenic purposes? Not satire, not clever, not funny.
 
Adam Sandler is now trying the "I have a Native American friend and he thought it was cool so you guys shouldn't be offended" defense.

That Native American friend?

Vanilla Ice.
 
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