[Webcomic] The Order of the Stick thread

We are also potentially being set up to lose both Durkon and Belkar in one confrontation.
(or at least Durkon and Belkar-who-breathes)
--Patrick
 
The wait is killing me!

I've re-read the last couple strips again, and now my earlier point (about why Durkula killed all the ushers) doesnt seem to make sense after all..
If Hel knows the demi-gods will vote in her favor, then why did Durkula kill the ushers, thus delaying the vote? It would make more sense to get it over with asap instead of running the risk of getting interrupted and possibly losing their vote..
 
Btw, while there's a bit of a point to the idea of "you are truly who you were on your worst day" I don't buy it in general. A number of concepts (redemption for one) go out the window with that philosophy, and thus I don't buy it. It's still a part of who you are, but it doesn't define you by itself.
 
Btw, while there's a bit of a point to the idea of "you are truly who you were on your worst day" I don't buy it in general. A number of concepts (redemption for one) go out the window with that philosophy, and thus I don't buy it. It's still a part of who you are, but it doesn't define you by itself.
It's definitely not a very agreeable philosophy, but it's very fun to play around with in game-worlds. I think that having a society/cult/whathaveyou that holds redemption as a precious/rare thing can inject very interesting elements in a story: the Mercykillers of Sigil, the Arco-flagellants of WH40k, some of my favorite takes on Paladins...
 
You are who you are on your best day too, and on your meh days, etc. Picking only one aspect and saying that's all you really are doesn't make much sense to begin with
 
You are who you are on your best day too, and on your meh days, etc. Picking only one aspect and saying that's all you really are doesn't make much sense to begin with
Fair enough, though I do have a fondness for the idea of a "test of character" for people and that it does reveal things. Such as this quote:
Wikiquote said:
Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.
NOT Lincoln.
So tests have value, and tell people what others are capable of, but any one thing does not usually define the whole...


... usually. I believe there are exceptions though, like Murder, and other horrific things. Some things show somebody is just broken that they can freely do such things. Can they change afterwards? Maybe... maybe not. Some things are too far to go back from and you are broken by definition, even if you get "somewhat" better later.

Harsh yes, but it is something I honestly admit to myself that I believe.
 
You are who you are on your best day too, and on your meh days, etc. Picking only one aspect and saying that's all you really are doesn't make much sense to begin with
Yes.
Me = ∑(me), not lim x->-∞(me) (nor lim x->+∞(me), for that matter).

--Patrick
 
I dunno. It depends how you view it. I don't necessarily agree with Durkula.
However, as, you know, probably not Oscar Wilde said, "I can resist anything except temptation". It's easy being virtuous and true under easy circumstances. It's easy to stay true to your wife when she's happy and pretty and good and there's no other women around. It's harder when she's sick, and gained 50 pounds, and you're not as in love anymore, and there's a pretty young thing flirting with you, and you're drunk. But if you fail at that sort of moment, you can't honestly say you're faithful.
Being "good" means being still decent at the worst of times. That's pretty much the whole point of the story of Job.

Of course, that does mean I consider most people to be inherently heavily flawed at best and plain bad in general.
 
Wow, I didn't think he could draw out the fight even longer, but it looks like we're going into overtime.
I like that the fight (for the existance of the entire world!) is an elaborate one, but I do hope the updates come more frequent or that the fight will conclude soon, because this is starting to look like DBZ..
 
Someone want to explain what I'm not getting in that last panel? I mean, is it the potion finally kicking in, or something?
--Patrick
 
Someone want to explain what I'm not getting in that last panel? I mean, is it the potion finally kicking in, or something?
--Patrick
The level of cruelty was just too much even for an evil Durkon. He realized it can't be true.

Or are you asking why he's not hurt anymore? No idea about that
 
The level of cruelty was just too much even for an evil Durkon. He realized it can't be true.

Or are you asking why he's not hurt anymore? No idea about that
No, I'm asking about the green flame/crit and Roy's green eyes. Is it a Fighter feat? A potion of Good Hope (in keeping with the strip title)? What?
--Patrick
 
It's his sword. It can spontaneously glow green and cause more damage to the undead, like it did with Xykon. Also, Roy might be using his anti-spellcaster move now.
 
The level of cruelty was just too much even for an evil Durkon. He realized it can't be true.

Or are you asking why he's not hurt anymore? No idea about that
actually...
We already know that good Durkon has been feeding evil Durkon small inconsistencies in the hopes that Roy would eventually hear one and catch on. I'm pretty sure that's what this was.
 
Did Roy know about Belkar getting tossed off the mountain yet? That'd be my guess on what tipped him off.
 
Did Roy know about Belkar getting tossed off the mountain yet? That'd be my guess on what tipped him off.
It's probably in the details of how his brother died, but that was probably just the point where Roy put all of the inconsistencies together because it was the most personal.
 
Well, this is a good example of what I mean.
Durkon has been slowly manipulating his evil twin to say things he would never say.
 
I'm guessing the title of the strip refers to the fact that Roy has given up hope that HpoH is actually still Durkon or a (evil) version of Durkon. A version that he can still save, or hope to reason with.

The green glow is part of his sword which works against the undead is well known, but I've never seen it envelop Roy himself or turn his eyes green before. Maybe it's an art upgrade, but I'm thinking "going Super Roy-ian" is actually the best explanation.

The potion healed a number of things (like the dark spot on his head and a few stripes on his chest), but in the last panel, there's no sign of injury at all. I don't think it has to do with any lighting effect from the glow or anything, because Rich is usually very accurate in those kind of details. We might see an all-new refreshed and enraged Roy going beserk against HpoH.

And lastly, about this thread: there was a lot of clicking open spoiler tags after this strip, even for just comments that wouldn't really spoil anything. I'd suggest to limit those to things that have not occured yet (mostly speculations and such), rather than discussions about the current comic itself (you kinda had it coming if you went on to reading comments instead of first reading the comic itself). The last bit I said about the healing and a possible refreshed Roy would fall under the 'spoiler' category, but meh, I've already written so much and well, whatever.. :p
 
Well, this is a good example of what I mean.
Durkon has been slowly manipulating his evil twin to say things he would never say.
According to Word of God Giant, the HPoH's mistake isn't because of Durkon tricking him. That strip you linked shows how he can fail to understand Durkon despite seeing his memories, but that doesn't mean Durkon is responsible for that failure.
 
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I'm guessing the title of the strip refers to the fact that Roy has given up hope that HpoH is actually still Durkon or a (evil) version of Durkon. A version that he can still save, or hope to reason with.

The green glow is part of his sword which works against the undead is well known, but I've never seen it envelop Roy himself or turn his eyes green before. Maybe it's an art upgrade, but I'm thinking "going Super Roy-ian" is actually the best explanation.

The potion healed a number of things (like the dark spot on his head and a few stripes on his chest), but in the last panel, there's no sign of injury at all. I don't think it has to do with any lighting effect from the glow or anything, because Rich is usually very accurate in those kind of details. We might see an all-new refreshed and enraged Roy going beserk against HpoH.

And lastly, about this thread: there was a lot of clicking open spoiler tags after this strip, even for just comments that wouldn't really spoil anything. I'd suggest to limit those to things that have not occured yet (mostly speculations and such), rather than discussions about the current comic itself (you kinda had it coming if you went on to reading comments instead of first reading the comic itself). The last bit I said about the healing and a possible refreshed Roy would fall under the 'spoiler' category, but meh, I've already written so much and well, whatever.. :p
actually, I use this thread to find out the new strip is up, so I appreciate the spoiler tags.
 
You know, it's funny. Of the half dozen or so webcomics I follow, Order of the Stick is the only one that has any problems with sticking to a schedule.

And yet, I don't mind. I think the sheer high quality of the comic more than makes up for that.

Then again, as far as timeliness goes, every webcomic pales in comparison to Dumbing of Age. David Willis has a buffer so big that the comic would still keep going for almost a year if he suddenly suddenly.
 
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