[Movies] The DC Cinematic Universe - The David Zazlav Dumpster Fire.
That's the right reaction. The wrong reaction was what swept through my theater screening--gasps, as if this was some major event.
The movie did get me though with the Talia twist. I was psyched because of that. Then after the movie ended I realized how that had zero relevance within the movie's own context and the change in meaning of the flashbacks was clumsy. There are a lot of engrossing scenes in that movie, but as a whole it's kinda broken.
Well, that's aside from the fact that two of the major plot points... just don't work that way. At all. For starters, the evil plan relies on bankrupting Bruce Wayne / Wayne Enterprises, and they do that by attacking the stock exchange, hacking his accounts, and trading away all his money. As I've mentioned before, the moment that the SEC was alerted to the attack on the stock market, they would have instituted a halt on trading, meaning that none of the trades after the start of the attack would be legally binding, so that's out. Secondly, even if it didn't, if a proven investor like Wayne Enterprises started pouring money into all kinds of spurious investments, their stock values would immediately skyrocket and probably cause a massive shift in the market which could be catastrophic over time, but not immediately. So that aside, it then relies on the "green power source" - ie thermonuclear power - being easily transformed into a bomb. Well, again, that doesn't work. A neutron bomb relies on a small fission explosion to trigger a fusion reaction with neutron decay, so you essentially need weapons grade fissionables and their chain reaction explosives on top of your fusion device. Fusion power devices, however, rely on masers, magnetic fields, and accelerators to create a phase plasma burn to generate power. There are to main models, the Toroid or TOKAMAK model, and the Stellarator. The IFER is a Tokamak, and the Helically Symmetric Experiment (HSX) is a Stellarator. While the HSX is on a similar scale to the device shown in Dark Knight Rises, it has only generated about 100 kW worth of heat on a burn - hardly a city-destroyer. The tokamak at Princeton was large enough to fill a high school gymnasium, and that's not counting all the infrastructure around it.
Not to mention at the end Bruce is living a jetsetting life with Catwoman. Must've still had some money saved up.
Also, was the whole "Bruce going broke" thing necessary? I don't remember anything being added to the plot because of it.
And I'm sorry because I know its a movie and it shouldn't bother me, but both Batman and Bruce Wayne make a public appearance on the same day for the first time in 8 years and no one makes the connection?
You know what might have worked out better? Imagine if, for The Dark Knight Rises, they had instead basically adapted the storyline Prey. That was a plot from the comics where Batman, still early in his career, was being hunted down by the police and Prof. Hugo Strange, acting as a police consultant while growing more obsessed with the idea of becoming Batman.
Re: the end, I always assume this is just Alfred dreaming again, because otherwise it's a shitty end with no weight.
[DOUBLEPOST=1463320962,1463320926][/DOUBLEPOST]Well it is a Christopher Nolan movie. Saying endings aren't his strong suit is being generous.
They did that to my mom's house when I was younger. Came home, no power, they said we were a day late on our payment. Took four days for them to turn it back on.
Kicker is, we weren't late. Someone had overlooked something, but we'd paid on-time.
Nonetheless:
Apparently, Warner Bros. wants to beat Marvel to the "female-centric movie" punch by making a Harley Quinn movie that will also feature Batgirl and the Birds of Prey.
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/687021-harley-quinn-movie#/slide/1
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/687021-harley-quinn-movie#/slide/1
GasBandit
Staff member
I guess that actually kinda makes sense. I mean, nobody's going to go see Suicide Squad for Captain Boomerang. Still, it begs the question, why not Wonder Woman?
Well, Wonder Woman is coming out June next year and filming is already done (barring any major reshoots), so there is that.
Also, it could just be me, but for some reason it feels more reassuring that this one seems to stem from Margot Robbie coming to really like these characters and wanting there to be a film with them.
Because WB/DC doesn't know what the fuck they're doing?
I know its gonna be C minus at best but...if she has a sky kanga in it that'd be awesome. For those confused, Wonder-Woman used to ride giant kangaroo that could jump into space...why is the invisible plane her go-to transportation and not the awesome kangaroo?
I wish they were interested in making good movies rather that just the ability to go, "FIRST!"
GasBandit
Staff member
It's like they don't even remember grade school. Every kid learns "First is the worst, second is the best."
I'd be fine with this... assuming we get Renee Montoya as The Question.
Do we know that Scarlett Johansson is interested in doing a solo film?
Also, Marvel's roster is set, so the soonest we could get a Black Widow movie now would be late 2019.
Eh, given that a solo Black Widow movie would most likely effectively be a Bourne movie set in the marvel universe and that they can only make so many movies at a time, there's reasonable arguments for skipping over it for the ones they're doing instead. Each movie on the docket right now either has more a unique concept, allows for exploration of lesser/unknown aspects of the MCU, or simply provides more interesting visuals because of their superpowers. The female superheroes they're choosing for title characters - the Wasp, Captain Marvel, and Jessica Jones if we go into TV shows - are all better choices than a non-powered spy to me. Similar reasoning would also explain why they're having Black Panther star in their first black superhero movie, rather than doing a War Machine or the Falcon movie.
The only bad thing about Black Panther is that we won't get his movie until 2018.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...man-fallout-warner-895174?utm_source=facebook
I'm actually interested to see if this changes the road they're on enough to make a difference. I quite like Geoff Johns so I have high hopes.
Thoughts?
I'm actually interested to see if this changes the road they're on enough to make a difference. I quite like Geoff Johns so I have high hopes.
Thoughts?
Look, at this point DC has to start over. They need a whole new course not just a few corrections. Too much damage has already been done with the newest version of SuperMcNecksnappy.
I am also not confident that Geoff Johns is the right choice. He has been creative director at DC for a bit now and it hasn't fixed any of the problems with their books. In fact, correct me if I am wrong, but weren't his Green Lantern books one of the only series unaffected by the NU52 virus? All the other books had to reset their whole continuity, but Johns books, his history didn't get wiped out. The smacks of someone willing to bend the rules to help themselves not their books. Not a confidence builder.
I know he consults on the TV series, but I would place their success on Berlanti over Johns. If they said they were giving the DC movieverse to him... I might start to get some hope.
Johns played a major role behind the scenes of the Green Lantern movie.
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And Grant Morrison's Batman, since Batman Inc and Damien Wayne were still part of continuity, too. The Nu52 reboot was such a mess.
Well and I'm sure a lot of it depends on how mad you are about DCmovieverse in general.
I find that I'm not as upset as everyone else, which is the norm for me. I mean, Johns has written a number of episodes for The Flash and Arrow, I've always been satisfied with his forays into that media, those episodes. =^^=
Maybe we can have another Superman movie where Ma Kent gives him a dope slap and says, "do the right thing no matter what."
Moral ambiguity in a god is a dangerous thing.
Moral ambiguity in a god is a dangerous thing.
From the article:
I'm laughing. It's like BvS pulled the no-talent alert on Snyder and the way WB is scrambling like this wasn't something people could see coming ... but now Affleck is one of the people overseeing things, so there is talent at the head. They're playing it safe with more Bat and Bat-related projects, but all these shake-ups sound like steps in the right direction.
Article also confirms the fixing of Suicide Squad to meet audience expectations. WB wants to bring comic and film people together to work on these projects. I'm surprised they didn't have a dedicated division for this particular film project before.
Hopefully good things come out of all this. Who knows, maybe in a couple years they'll have earned another thread title change.
ohgodicanhearthemusic
Sorry, @Zero Esc, I forgot you tagged my post asking for an explanation. Basically, those three titles feature Superman-like archetypes who go mad with power or just plain mad. Or, well, Miracleman was closer to an archetype of Captain Marvel, a.k.a. Shazam, but same idea of a god-like being gone mad. And I just realized I could've included the cover to Injustice, as well.
figmentPez
Staff member
Wasn't sure where to post this, finally decided on here:
Kevin Conroy releases new recording of "Am I Blue?"
Kevin Conroy releases new recording of "Am I Blue?"