[Rant] Minor Rant III: For a Few Hollers More

Wow, so in the time it took me to post that message, Pudding got the smoked sausages out of the grocery bag and tried to eat them, when that didn't work he had the ham slices open and was trying to eat one! When I turned around to deal with that, he had gotten his head through the handles of the plastic bag....
I assume again that Pudding is a pet name for Hobo...
 
I'm currently teaching at a middle school with 1,467 students. There are 71 teachers, not counting office staff, support staff, cafeteria workers, and/or administrators.

I can't even fathom what you're describing.
He was at private school.
 
It sounds much nicer. I'm not extolling the "virtues" of a large school. Rather I'm just saying it's such an amazingly different about culture that I can't truly wrap my head around it.
The private school I desperately want to send my son to is for grades 6-12 and has about 20 kids. Which is also why it's exorbitantly expensive and I'm still trying to figure out if we can make it work for next year. :x
 

GasBandit

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I attended a private Montessori school for my first couple years that had two teachers per classroom in the primary grades. It was amazing. I learned so much, so fast.

Then we moved and I got put in public school, and thank goodness it was a "good" one, because they recognized I was 2-3 years ahead of their curriculum in some subjects and made allowances for me.

Then we moved again (friggin Army) a few years later, and where we moved didn't have any kind of "advanced placement" program - not even "gifted and talented" class or any such thing, so I got put back in my own grade, got bored out of my skull, and coasted all the way through til 12th grade without doing any homework - just taking the tests from what I already knew. It frustrated my teachers and parents so much (the former because I refused to do the excruciatingly boring homework, the latter because my grades slipped because I got zeros on all the homework I didn't do which dragged down the As I kept getting on the tests)... and then my senior year in high school I finally was put in a class beyond my ability to coast - Calculus - and by that time I had forgotten how to learn, pretty much. Or at least, how to study. That year was tough as hell, and freshman year of College was a nightmare.
 
Honestly my elementary/middle school had massive money troubles. They didn't have their own building until I was in 8th grade and they ended up selling it and renting out half of it a few years later. It's amazing they haven't shut down, but honestly I won't really feel bad when it does. I wish I didn't go there and my parents have told me they wouldn't have sent me there if they had to do it again.
 
I attended a private Montessori school for my first couple years that had two teachers per classroom in the primary grades. It was amazing. I learned so much, so fast.

Then we moved and I got put in public school, and thank goodness it was a "good" one, because they recognized I was 2-3 years ahead of their curriculum in some subjects and made allowances for me.

Then we moved again (friggin Army) a few years later, and where we moved didn't have any kind of "advanced placement" program - not even "gifted and talented" class or any such thing, so I got put back in my own grade, got bored out of my skull, and coasted all the way through til 12th grade without doing any homework - just taking the tests from what I already knew. It frustrated my teachers and parents so much (the former because I refused to do the excruciatingly boring homework, the latter because my grades slipped because I got zeros on all the homework I didn't do which dragged down the As I kept getting on the tests)... and then my senior year in high school I finally was put in a class beyond my ability to coast - Calculus - and by that time I had forgotten how to learn, pretty much. Or at least, how to study. That year was tough as hell, and freshman year of College was a nightmare.
My life. Except I never even had accelerated classes so I was just bored and coasted without ever knowing it could be better and then was fucked.

Which is why I get so enraged about public school trying to make my son stay in general classes if he wants support.


Also, my school district has a public charter montessori for K-5
 
Oh, if only I'd been able to take advantage of that sort of stuff.
As it was, a lot of the "advanced" stuff I know was stuff I taught myself.
A big thank-you to those teachers who realized what was going on and let me explore on my own.

--Patrick
 
When middle school started in my old town, it meant bringing 9 elementary schools together (not including kids who were previously at private schools in the area), and each elementary school had at least 3 classes for each grade. They had us divided into "houses" in which we'd have certain core teachers in particular hallways, but to be honest, there were so many elective choices that the houses only mattered when we were taken on our end-of-the-year trips. We got a print out in the mail with our teachers and their classroom numbers, and you had the first two weeks of school to drop/add. I'd imagine anything else would be a logistical nightmare. (Although I'm sure there were parents who wanted their kids to have certain teachers, but I didn't know any of them.)

The other nice thing is that they always had multiple levels of classes for almost any subject. I usually took the advanced courses, but at our high school, almost any subject had a basic level, an honors level and an A.P. level, which if you passed the final exams got you college credits. I coasted by all my Liberal Arts and mandatory math classes my Freshman year of college because I learned everything already in high school. I think I only had to read one book we didn't already cover, and concentrated on my artwork the rest of the time.
 
I mean... You're not making it easier to tell them apart here. :p
Haha! @HCGLNS isn't a lizard killer!

They both have white in their beards though.[DOUBLEPOST=1473285214,1473285088][/DOUBLEPOST]Here is Pud a few weeks ago. He's growing that beard/mane thing which matches up to the white tufts behind his ears.

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I'm currently teaching at a middle school with 1,467 students. There are 71 teachers, not counting office staff, support staff, cafeteria workers, and/or administrators.

I can't even fathom what you're describing.
I went to JH and HS at a K-12 school. My graduating class was 17 people. The JH and HS math teacher was also the football coach, and the JH and HS science teacher was also the HS men's basketball coach, and the driving instructor. The entire HS population was smaller than the number of your faculty and staff members - I think we came in somewhere between 60 and 75 my senior year, and the junior class was pretty big - 23 students. Our football team (back then, it has since changed), was 8 man ironman football - meaning our star quarterback was also one of our star linebackers. And our star point guard. And our star pitcher. I couldn't even begin to fathom a middle school with that kind of population.
 
I'm currently teaching at a middle school with 1,467 students. There are 71 teachers, not counting office staff, support staff, cafeteria workers, and/or administrators.

I can't even fathom what you're describing.
As I said, I went to 8 schools before graduating high school. None of them came close to 1,400 students. The closest was the high school in Toronto with about 900.

edit: just googled it. Last year, it had 847.

I also think my memory might be off, because one of the schools had just over 2000 three years ago. And fun fact I just learned . . . But that's another thread.
 
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Hmmmm... when I was at high school, which is grades 10-12 in our town, we were shy of 2,000 students (I think between 1800-1900, though my graduating class was 602.) Since we were talking about it, I just looked it up , and as of 2013-2014, we're up to 2,250. Eep! No wonder they had to expand all the buildings.

But then again, Mr. Z's high school was grades 9-12, and they're current student body is 5,760. That seems like a small town's population, not a high school.
 
When middle school started in my old town, it meant bringing 9 elementary schools together (not including kids who were previously at private schools in the area), and each elementary school had at least 3 classes for each grade. They had us divided into "houses" in which we'd have certain core teachers in particular hallways, but to be honest, there were so many elective choices that the houses only mattered when we were taken on our end-of-the-year trips. We got a print out in the mail with our teachers and their classroom numbers, and you had the first two weeks of school to drop/add. I'd imagine anything else would be a logistical nightmare. (Although I'm sure there were parents who wanted their kids to have certain teachers, but I didn't know any of them.)

The other nice thing is that they always had multiple levels of classes for almost any subject. I usually took the advanced courses, but at our high school, almost any subject had a basic level, an honors level and an A.P. level, which if you passed the final exams got you college credits. I coasted by all my Liberal Arts and mandatory math classes my Freshman year of college because I learned everything already in high school. I think I only had to read one book we didn't already cover, and concentrated on my artwork the rest of the time.
TIL Celt Z went to Hogwarts.
 

fade

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My high school was 7-12, though they called 7-8 middle school, and actually did a pretty good job of scheduling so that 7-8 never really saw 9-12, despite being in the same building. We were the first class in the new elementary school. The year before I started, it was K-12 in one building. My graduating class was about 75, but we had a pretty good school, I'm coming to realize. There was a good advanced track for gifted students. My favorite teacher was from our town. She was gifted herself, and went to Oxford. Of all the careers she could've had, she chose to come back to our town and teach high school English. She really was an eye-opener, too.
 
Hmm... my high school (that I left when my anxiety issues started) had something like 800 kids in a building designed for half that number, did 9-12, and had a Tech School path, a College path, and AP path. Going from one end of the building to another took about 10 minutes between classes because of the seething mass of kids and GOD HELP YOU if you needed to go to your locker to get something. The year before (8th grade) I had split sessions... which meant that my school had two different groups of kids attending it: 7-12:30 and 12:30 to 6. This is because the school couldn't legally fit all the kids into the building without violating the fire code.

They've since built something like 6 new schools, but FUCK ME was that hard for a kid with generalized anxiety.
 
My high school that I attended for the first three years had some 2000 students. The school was spread out so it was relatively easy to just become isolated without trying. Theater geeks, the stoners in pottery class, and pretty much every little clique could do its own thing without bumping into anybody else.

At the start of my senior year, my family moved overseas. I went to a school that was grades 6-12 and had about 150 students. My graduating class was 16. There were cliques there that went all the way back to kindergarten. My classmates made efforts to bring me into the fold but I was withdrawn and resentful of the move. I really wanted to be back Stateside with my old friends. And yet, despite my determination to NOT have fun, I actually had a pretty good time. Whenever the new sports season came around, all you had to do was walk on the field and were instantly given a spot on the team.
 

GasBandit

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I went to two different high schools, one in Albuquerque for my freshman year and one in Colorado Springs for 10-12 (high school in both places was considered to be grades 9-12). Our student body was between 800 and 900. Graduating class was... 200 and change?

My middle school (in El Paso, TX) didn't separate us into "houses" or anything, but did start us already going to a different teacher for every subject like high school. My Algebra teacher was a dead ringer for a porn star who was on a video I secretly had, but of course I couldn't tell anybody that. I think I told you guys the story about how I got busted for dealing porn already.
 
As I was typing this, I had the same thought. Too bad they were numbered instead of named. (I was House 1, so that's Gryffindor, right?) :D
Alphabetically, sure.


I was the one going to school in uniform in an old monastery with some hallways and rooms looking like Hogwarts, to be fair :p
 
I'm pretty sure there were about 2,000 in my high school (cheat look: currently 1,612 last school year). City of about 80-90k people, and mine was one of the three public high schools in town (we had one strictly private, one Catholic and one Lutheran HS in the city and its environs).

And yes, my school was divided into three sub-schools (I was in blue school).
 
My high school has 2876 students this year...I don't think we had that many when I was in. I think it was closer to 2200.

Edit: Just found a website that tracks that kind of thing..I was close! 2266 in 1988.
 
City is tearing up everyone's front yard to replace the sewer line. They've had to shut off our water a couple times over the last few weeks (including today). Today they may have dug a thing they weren't supposed to, because the father-in-law says one of the guys got zapped pretty good, and since about 5pm today our power keeps fluctuating between 125VAC and 98VAC. Everything will be fine and then ZZT all the computers reboot and the TV turns off, so no video games tonight, no movies, AND NO A/C, etc. for an indeterminate period of time.

The power was off for so long that my in-house server went down because nobody here knows it needs to be shut down during extended outages BEFORE the UPS runs out of juice. This is a frustrating thing because every time we have an extended power outage, I deputize someone and show them what to do in order to shut it down (go downstairs, turn on this monitor here, go to the menu and pick the "shut down" command, really that's all there is) but every time the power goes out, the server experiences an uncontrolled shutdown because it's been so long since the last time that nobody remembers what to do AND I guess nobody thinks to message me and ASK.

Now once our power is stable again, I gotta figure out if anything got corrupted or whether I just need to roll back to the backup I made a couple days ago. Also I may need to shop for a longer-lasting UPS. Harrumph.

--Patrick
 
What you really need to do, though, is build a UPS that can commincate its last words to your server before it runs out of juice, at which point the server kills itself.

. . . then when the power comes back the UPS can wake up saying "haha just kidding!" At which point, if you want to be faithful to this lame Shakespeare reference, you can program it to kill itself. But I recommend you take a page from the player's handbook, and have it cast Raise Dead on the server.
 
What you really need to do, though, is build a UPS that can commincate its last words to your server before it runs out of juice, at which point the server kills itself.
Aren't there apps available to make sure the server shuts down gracefully in just such an emergency without requiring a human present?
These do exist. I don't have one since my UPSs have all been ones I got from previous employers (Them: "This doesn't work any more, want it?" Me:"Sure, I'll take it off your hands." <buy new battery, install it, get halfway decent UPS for price of battery>) that don't have RS-232 or USB connections and because I THOUGHT I could rely on family when I'm not around to just turn it off. Also because I didn't want to have to fuss with setting up SNMP to notify me when my power goes out (see part about family) because I figured, y'know, they'd notice when the power goes out.

--Patrick
 
Aaaaaaand now the power's out entirely.
Funny story, though. It's not related to the sewer work at all. Nope.
The sewer work disturbed the earth ground serving our house, which revealed what was actually an issue with a distribution node/transformer/whatever that is buried under a neighboring parking lot that is not at all involved with the sewer work. I am now taking bets as to whether or not I'll actually be able to drive into my driveway by the time I get home. Fair warning, though. The odds I'm offering are reeeeeeally low.

--Patrick
 
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