Looks okay I suppose, not something I'd pay $12 to go see, but I'd add it to my Netflix DVD in the mail thingy when it comes out on DVD.
[Movies] The Upcoming Movies Trailer Thread
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That I will actually like it and not have to hear about it 24/7 if I don't
. It'll be successful, it's a Disney movie.
Dave posted that before the movie was released, so there was no way for him to know.
What I don't understand about Moana is that the movie is being touted - around here anyway - as "finally a Disney princess without the typical figure - she doesn't have a wasp waist".
Judging by that trailer, her figure hardly differs from that of, say, Anna from Frozen. Brave's Merida, or Mulan even, had a more "divergent" figure, if you ask me.
Judging by that trailer, her figure hardly differs from that of, say, Anna from Frozen. Brave's Merida, or Mulan even, had a more "divergent" figure, if you ask me.
When Disney says "Princess" these days, what they really mean is "female lead."
--Patrick
And I'm certain we'll see her lined up with the rest of them in time for Christmas merchandise.
I'm still bitter that Vanellope Von Sweetz from Wreck-It Ralph isn't in that line, despite being a Princess.
Isn't she a Baroness or something? I think she should be in that line if (Queen) Elsa is, I'm just trying to remember her title.
According to the Disney Wiki, she is indeed a Princess, or was anyway. She is currently "President Vanellope von Schweetz".
She's a glitch.
As we all know, roles are chosen on the objective measure of talent, ergo there must be no talented Asians.
This seems like the perfect time to launch my Hollywood career then. I could play an awesome Motoko Kusanagi.
Also that glitchy transition style in the teaser is annoying as hell.
Well Jesus, how're you gonna know what the title of the movie is?
Sort of like how there was an entire section of Cloud Atlas set in Korea and almost all of the named roles were non-Asian actors. Yeah, yeah, reincarnation, blah blah fuck you.
GHOST IN THE SHELL!
GHOST IN THE SHELL!
GHOST IN THE SHELL!
GHOST IN THE SHELL!
GHOST IN THE SHELL!
GHOST IN THE SHELL!
GHOST IN THE SHELL!
GHOST IN THE SHELL!
What movie was it again? I just can't remember after all those times the title flashed before my eyes.
Christ, I hope...whatever that was...isn't the new style for trailers. Let's hope it's not the new "BWAAAAAAAAM."
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open on sparse piano notes, play some monologue that comes from a different scene than the one shown. Preferably outdoor dialogue with background noise and pauses for dramatic effect
science being done in a blue-tone room. Close-up with reflection of monitor in glasses
desperate protagonist ranting while music builds in complexity and volume.
protagonist moves toward obscured reveal--music builds---and then cuts out entirely as whatever is obscuring the view moves out of the way
lots of BWAAAMPS and quick cuts showing devastating action
then a hero rally as music morphs to heroic
then hero montage.
title on black background. Music tapers
hero one liner
science being done in a blue-tone room. Close-up with reflection of monitor in glasses
desperate protagonist ranting while music builds in complexity and volume.
protagonist moves toward obscured reveal--music builds---and then cuts out entirely as whatever is obscuring the view moves out of the way
lots of BWAAAMPS and quick cuts showing devastating action
then a hero rally as music morphs to heroic
then hero montage.
title on black background. Music tapers
hero one liner
Five teaser clips cut together by somebody to form one longer teaser.
or the new "IN A WORLD WHERE..."
I miss the "IN A WORLD" thing. I used to count them during the trailer reel before a movie.
Fair enough, though in THAT character's case, she's full prosthetic (depending on the mythos of course, SAC is different than the original movie/manga, and probably different than latest anime too). She can be whatever (outward) race she wants to be.
Not to say your point isn't true. As you said, the Cloud Atlas weirdness.
GasBandit
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Anime is already anglicized, why shouldn't the movies based on anime properties be as well?
We've had this exact discussion about this exact movie 2 years previously.
Depicted below: An "asian" woman.
Really, ScarJo looks just about as much like Motoko as she does Natasha.
And for all its flaws, I think Lucy demonstrated she could play that kind of role.
We've had this exact discussion about this exact movie 2 years previously.
Depicted below: An "asian" woman.
Really, ScarJo looks just about as much like Motoko as she does Natasha.
And for all its flaws, I think Lucy demonstrated she could play that kind of role.
Ghost in the Shell will always be somewhat problematic because a lot of the ideas that the series works off of - the concept of privacy, national and personal identity, culture, etc - are very much rooted in the Japanese perspective, rather than a Western perspective. However, given how few major roles, and even minor roles, go to Asian actors in Hollywood, and given how frequently Asian characters are either changed to Caucasian, minimalized, omitted, and worse, played by white actors in "yellowface", it's pretty glaring that the definitive piece of Japanese cyberpunk, with strong female protagonist Motoko Kusanagi, is cast using a white woman. If the movie was in a non-specific setting and the character was adapted to be, for example, Mathilda Kozinsky or something, it wouldn't be as much of a slap in the face.
Another glaring example was the movie '21', based off the book 'Bringing Down The House', which was about the MIT blackjack team that used their math genius to take the casinos for a fortune. The team was largely made up of Asian or Middle Eastern males, especially since they could pass for the spendthrift children of a Japanese executive or oil sheikh*, whereas a white kid with a $2 million bankroll would have gotten a lot of notice. The movie made all but one of the characters white, and made the token Asian a goofy kleptomaniac instead of a math whiz.
Is it important to the characterization, culture, or story that the people in Ghost in the Shell are asian? (I haven't seen it! /PatrThom) Hollywood has adapted a lot of French and English films (especially those) without any kind of cultural appropriation. If ScarJo is playing an asian character, then I'll be a little annoyed. But that needn't be the case.Anime is already anglicized, why shouldn't the movies based on anime properties be as well?
We've had this exact discussion about this exact movie 2 years previously.
Depicted below: An "asian" woman.
Really, ScarJo looks just about as much like Motoko as she does Natasha.
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And for all its flaws, I think Lucy demonstrated she could play that kind of role.
A major plot element of Ghost in the Shell, particularly Stand Alone Complex, is that Japan is one of the few remaining nation-states after a devastating war, and is facing an influx of millions of refugees from across the world. As a result, common issues are a) official suspicion of refugees for any terrorist incidents, b) Japan struggling with its national identity, and c) the contrast between national identity in a changing nation, and personal identity when one's consciousness can be transferred to prosthetic bodies, as well as d) how self-aware Artificial Intelligence fits into the picture.
So it's kind of important, yeah.
GasBandit
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The source material explicitly takes place in post-WWIII Japan. As for the movie itself, I don't know if it will.
But if we are talking about bad casting decisions, let's talk about casting Pilou "Euron Greyjoy" Asbæk as Batou.
Pictured below on the right: Batou
Pictured below: Should not be playing Batou
I'm sure Ron Perlman would have been up for it, and would have been a better fit.
I've seen it, FYI.
One of my (at the time) Black co-workers made me watch it.
...he's still Black, btw. He's just no longer my co-worker.
--Patrick
Why did you bring up his surname twice?