a Trump vs Clinton United States Presidential Election in 2016
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Oh c'mon, there's no need for that... y'all still got a lot of orphans to go through before you force the poor to eat their own kids.
When i 1stheard about voter ID in the US i was all like "wait, they don't have to show their ID when voting?"
Then i found out y'all don't just have to get a photo ID card at 14 like everyone here... no wonder ID fraud is such a problem in the US.
It's more a problem because of the internet than lack of mandatory photo ID.
But still, the bullshit that's been put in place to stop people from getting their photo ID is ridiculous.
We don't have mandatory ID in Canada either, but most people at least get a learner's permit at 14 because, well, the country is fucking gigantic and people drive a lot.
And our list of acceptable ID is expansive and our polling stations are small.
Well, up until the last election, a letter that was addressed to you was enough.
Now you require two letters.
Paul Ryan says he wants to make medicare privatized. If someone could make a porn site of old republican voters realizing that their health insurance is gone, I'd rub my dick raw.
I wonder why democrats complain about voter ID laws for the big elections, but don't complain about them for the primaries.
Is there an analysis anywhere of how voter ID laws may have affected Bernie v Hillary? I have my guess, but there's no foundation for my guess so it's pointless.
Is there an analysis anywhere of how voter ID laws may have affected Bernie v Hillary? I have my guess, but there's no foundation for my guess so it's pointless.
Given that if only white people voted, Bernie would've won by a lot, my guess is that voter ID laws would help him. However, I still don't think it would've been enough to make him win.
There's no "regretful agree" nor "sigh:brofist," so you get a "hugs."Arguing voter ID laws is a bit pointless when half of the eligible voters just didn't bother, ID or no ID.
--Patrick
Yeah, see, here's the thing... they'll talk about it, but they'll never actually do it, because they know how much they'd lose if they take ANYTHING away from the group that gives them so many of their votes.
And yet Hildog lost because almost 5% voted 3rd party.Arguing voter ID laws is a bit pointless when half of the eligible voters just didn't bother, ID or no ID.
Trump got less votes then McCain.
The FBI (and Wiener) won Trump the election.
And it was hilarious seeing r/the_donald turn on Comey (sp?) after they said there was nothing new in the emails... as if the damage wasn't done already.
Anyway, until you make voting mandatory (and on the bloody weekend), you will always have a lower then it should be turnout.
Thats probably true and logically a good thing.
Hope you are fans of deregulating banks again.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ampaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2038
I don't know about you, but I think it is time to move my savings out of stocks before it is too late.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ampaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2038
I don't know about you, but I think it is time to move my savings out of stocks before it is too late.
It's almost like they know they'll just get bailed out again if they fuck things up.
GasBandit
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For all the talk and bluster, I will still be surprised if Obamacare gets repealed. If they were serious about doing so, the republicans could have just yanked the funding because they controlled the house. But they didn't have the balls to do it because they know that the ACA was a barbed spear that will do even more damage getting yanked out than it did getting thrust in - and would doom the career of anyone with fingerprints on the repeal. So they just had 50-someodd toothless measures sent to Obama for him to veto.
On a semi-related note, does anybody also remember how we've done this wall song-and-dance before, it was approved, the money was allocated, and then it just didn't happen?
On a semi-related note, does anybody also remember how we've done this wall song-and-dance before, it was approved, the money was allocated, and then it just didn't happen?
And close by. Obviously a little farther apart in the country, and it obviously gets a little more crowded in the city, but it has never taken me more than 10 minutes to get to a polling station, and I've never waited more than 10 once I got there. (I don't think 'Ive ever waited on more than a couple people, so I've probably never waited more than a couple minutes)[DOUBLEPOST=1478884810,1478884341][/DOUBLEPOST]
Isn't there already fencing? Or does it not stretch across the whole border?
But instead of a wall, y'all oughtta build a moat like the one we dug to separate us from Buffalo.
I need to get with HR and move mine to some low risk stuff pretty soon.
GasBandit
Staff member
Not across the whole border, and most of what IS there is, like, shitty corrugated metal that wouldn't keep a determined COW out of the country, much less a human being with tools. Vast stretches of it are either just open, or look like this:
Higher res version that doesn't like hotlinking here.
What we were sold on/paid for was something slightly more substantial.
What i don't get is how would a wall even keep people out, we've invented ladders before agriculture. Even Vandal Savage knows about them by now.
Sure, it could work with manned guard towers at certain intervals, but if you can afford the man power... well, then you don't really need a wall any more (maybe in some place with certain geographic features), do you?[DOUBLEPOST=1478887953,1478887671][/DOUBLEPOST]
Except that it promotes hypocrisy amongst elected officials. And keeps those old people voting for others to get screwed in ways they would never accept for themselves. It's a clear violation of the Golden Rule.
GasBandit
Staff member
The big issue isn't people running across the border in onesies/twosies. Its the ones driving large trucks. Sometimes those trucks are full of people. Sometimes those trucks are full of cocaine. We're awfully nervous that one of these days, one of those trucks will be full of jihadists with a dirty bomb.
It's hard to get a large truck up a ladder.
I thought we did that in order to protect our drivers.
Your propaganda of sending terrible drivers into the US with Ontario plates?
It's like...at what point does that stop being propaganda and start just being a fact?
That's not the propaganda. That's the ongoing deception to reinforce the lie that "no, the Niagara River isn't a moat, what are you talking about?" while we dig out the trench along the 49th - but I've said too much.
Oh shit, I hear the NHL at the door.
The NHL in southern Ontario? Now I know you're lying.
Necronic
Staff member
Nah, don't do that, you definitely don't want your savings in cash. Here's how it will go down. Dodd Frank gets repealed, which will remove Capital Reserve requirements from a lot of banks. This means a lot of money removed from the markets will re-enter the money supply. Remember why everyone was talking about how quantitative easing should have caused rampant inflation, but it never did? Those capital reserves are why. So we eat the inflation there. Now, inflation has the potential to be a really good thing for our economy. Lowering the value of the dollar would do a LOT to improve our export economy.
But oh wait. We're also about to start a bunch of trade-wars. Guess what THAT does to our trade economy? So. We're looking at a big jump in inflation alongside a trade war induced recession. And because of the rampant inflation we will have to increase interest rates pretty dramatically over the next few years. Which sounds good right? Except that low interest rates are hands down the best way to promote growth and expansion in the economy. So. We have trade war pressure pushing for a recession and we don't have the freedom of low interest rates to help push for domestic growth. Oh yeah, and just in case you were hoping to retire on your home equity, guess what high interest rates do to home prices?
But hey. All this complex talk about sound monetary policy is just liberal intellectual elitism.
I bought a condo last year with a fixed rate
Necronic
Staff member
Well. Maybe. Because house prices will definitely be depressed by any fast interest rate spikes. And a recession won't help either. So there's a possibility there will be a flat out housing market collapse. Low interest rates don't do much for you if your house loses 20% of its value.
I would take a wait and see approach. Literally 2 hours ago I was talking to a management consultant who specialized in Dodd Frank and he believes that the Trump administration will keep some aspects of Dodd Frank alive. If they keep capital reserve requirements this won't be an issue.
Even if they don't it could play out any number of ways. For instance if Trump doesn't start a trade war then the results will be very different.
In business and financial modeling though you often look at something called "Value at Risk". This is kind of a "what's the worst case scenario under reasonable circumstances" (so we're not including absurd possibilities like alien invasions). That's the scenario I just presented.
I would take a wait and see approach. Literally 2 hours ago I was talking to a management consultant who specialized in Dodd Frank and he believes that the Trump administration will keep some aspects of Dodd Frank alive. If they keep capital reserve requirements this won't be an issue.
Even if they don't it could play out any number of ways. For instance if Trump doesn't start a trade war then the results will be very different.
In business and financial modeling though you often look at something called "Value at Risk". This is kind of a "what's the worst case scenario under reasonable circumstances" (so we're not including absurd possibilities like alien invasions). That's the scenario I just presented.
Ok, i'm not much of an expert, but don't most trucks needs roads...
Also, i'm pretty sure ladder technology has advanced past the point of only being usable twice every night...