Hollywoo Stars and Celebrities: Who's sexually harassing? Who's sexually harassed? Let's find out!

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Gared said:
The NYTimes has a list... not that I'm terribly fond of the Times, but it's a list. I'm greatly saddened to see John Besh on it.
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Yeah, me too. I watch his show on PBS, and really like his cooking style. I saw his story break about two weeks ago. He stepped down from his company too.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

Leonardo DiCaprio, too? Nooooo!
EDIT: Because he's not in the picture and it's the Oscars, not because I've heard anything.

--Patrick
 
Dave

Dave

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She's one of the people who signed a petition and tried hard to get Polanski's release when he was arrested...
 
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drawn_inward said:
Baldwins bros and Affleck bros next? Who else?
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Casey Affleck has had some dirty baggage for a while, from what I understand. I haven't watched Manchester-by-the-sea yet despite the praise because I don't want to support his career.
 
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fade said:
Casey Affleck has had some dirty baggage for a while, from what I understand. I haven't watched Manchester-by-the-sea yet despite the praise because I don't want to support his career.
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You're not missing much unless you enjoy depressive dramas. Besides, I don't think he's all that great of an actor. He's adequate.

We watched Baby Driver last night for the first time. I forget Spacey was in it. His character says something like this: I love the balls on Baby. :facepalm:
 
Dave

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I think it was, "I was just blinded by the balls on that kid."

But you can't really blame him for words he said in a script unless he wrote it. Now the stuff he's done in real life...'nuther story.
 
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drawn_inward said:
You're not missing much unless you enjoy depressive dramas. Besides, I don't think he's all that great of an actor. He's adequate.

We watched Baby Driver last night for the first time. I forget Spacey was in it. His character says something like this: I love the balls on Baby. :facepalm:
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The only reason I really wanted to see it was because I lived in Beverly, MA--which is the next town over from MBtS. We went there for the beach in the summer. In fact, I was living there when I first joined this group of miscreants.
 
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fade said:
The only reason I really wanted to see it was because I lived in Beverly, MA--which is the next town over from MBtS. We went there for the beach in the summer. In fact, I was living there when I first joined this group of miscreants.
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I don't know what we're supposed to do with all this info about all these guys. There's a spectrum of actions by all these guys. I am glad there has been some light shined on their actions, I hope something real is done about it in the real world. We'll see. I'd let yourself off the hook and watch the movie though. I don't think you're supporting his assholery by watching it.
 
GasBandit

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Gared said:
Apparently Danny Masterson's name came up back in March/April, before being quashed by the Church of Scientology, so his accusers have come forward publicly now, and are demanding equal treatment as Spacey's and Louis C.K.'s received - the complete and utter severance of all ties between Netflix and the accused - and an investigation that goes somewhere.
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Gives new meaning to "The Immortal Iron Fist"

Wait, sorry, wrong frizzy-haired asshole. >_<
 
Bubble181

Bubble181

Celt Z said:
Well, this is just craptastic. And deeply disappointing:

John Lasseter taking a leave of absence from Pixar. There is a history of sexual misconduct.
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The first of those two links redirected me to a porn site halfway through the article...just a warning for those reading at work.

That aside, what's being described in those articles us certainly worth calling out and the person should be reprimanded...the only person willing to put their name on it directly contradicts the story, and must seems tree be limited to inappropriate behavior...
I dunno, yes, putting your hand on a knee where it isn't welcome is wrong, and it being so accepted is because of our cultural norms that need to change...but does it really merit a reaction like Weinstein or Cosby?
I still feel like now all forms of crossing boundaries are being treated as"equally bad" while there really are gradations in there.
 
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Bubble181 said:
The first of those two links redirected me to a porn site halfway through the article...just a warning for those reading at work.

That aside, what's being described in those articles us certainly worth calling out and the person should be reprimanded...the only person willing to put their name on it directly contradicts the story, and must seems tree be limited to inappropriate behavior...
I dunno, yes, putting your hand on a knee where it isn't welcome is wrong, and it being so accepted is because of our cultural norms that need to change...but does it really merit a reaction like Weinstein or Cosby?
I still feel like now all forms of crossing boundaries are being treated as"equally bad" while there really are gradations in there.
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Most of these guys were in positions of authority. I agree there is a grayscale of sleeziness, but power shifts the scale darker.
 
strawman

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Bubble181 said:
I still feel like now all forms of crossing boundaries are being treated as"equally bad" while there really are gradations in there.
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On the one hand there are aspects that are making it feel a bit like a witch hunt, but I have to wonder if in some of these lesser cases what the individual realizes is that they've done worse and if they choose to fight it they will only force their other victims to speak up since someone is finally listening. If they step down early on, when the accusations are for relatively lesser infractions they may spare themselves and their victims additional pain.

Consider Franken - a forced kiss, a hover hand-grab while his victim was sleeping, and he's holding his ground - but now you have others coming forth with slightly worse accusations. Cosby's silence and reluctance to confess undoubtedly caused others to come forward and continue to come forward.

But once they admit their wrongdoing and make at least a pretense of contriteness, the accusations stop. I'd guess that once they are sufficiently chastised/punished other victims feel no need to come forward.

The "troubling discussions" Lassetar had seemed more ominous than what's coming out in the press, and my first thought was that they essentially showed him all the statements they've gathered, and then agreed together (probably with a pack of lawyers, etc) on what each side would release to the press and what each side would do. And so far it seems to be working - he's not losing his job, he's taking a 6 month sabbatical - and it may even be a paid sabbatical. Release a statement, wait long enough for it to blow over, and maybe that will be sufficient.

But the lightness of the punishment may also recognize that the crime wasn't as bad as others have suffered at the hands of other assailants.

Regardless, this is all trial by the public, so there's bound to be a great deal of variance in the punishment. The statute of limitations for the vast majority of these crimes is well past, most states having felony statutes of limitation around 5-6 years, though some are as long as 10 years for specific sexual crimes (such as sexual crimes against minors).

And on top of that - it's salacious and makes for a good story in the media.

All that said, punishing people for minor offenses will put everyone on notice that certain acts will not be tolerated, and hopefully will overall reduce sexual crime as a society because even the minor things are career changers.
 
Bubble181

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PatrThom said:
Probably not gizmodo's fault, probably an insufficiently-vetted ad.

--Patrick
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Oh, I know. I normally don't click anything there anyway...but just wanted to throw out the warning, I'm not the only person prone to misclicks, and one wrong click leading to a dozen pop-ups and -unders for WOW-gold and porn is not expected behavior ;)
 
Celt Z

Celt Z

Not even the least bit surprised. My late grandmother used to go off on what a scummy guy he was, and her gossip rags would talk about his affairs on set. A broken clock and all that.
 
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