What are you playing?

Since PUBG servers were down, me, @Terrik , and @Officer_Charon played some Fortnite. We were terrible at this game and spent most of our time playing with the ability to build things not as well as all of the people who built giant ramps and shot down on our heads.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/217462106

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For the record, building a fort in this game is the worst possible idea, but this was our 2nd or 3rd game and we were just messing around with how to build shit.)
 
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Blood Bowl II

I started this last night and played for probably four hours, which is longer than I usually play a game nowadays, or have time for usually.

I'm having fun at least with the tutorial period of the campaign. I'm pretty sure I learned more about football last night than I did the entire rest of my life beforehand. My wife commented "this is the only way football could be interesting." :D

My only gripe is that the turnover rule isn't introduced until the end of the tutorial and it's such a huge shift in how you have to weigh risk and reward, turn order, that I feeling should've been there early on. At the same time, I got used to it. The game feels not dissimilar from Fire Emblem and I'm really looking forward to playing more tonight.
 
Blood Bowl II

I started this last night and played for probably four hours, which is longer than I usually play a game nowadays, or have time for usually.

I'm having fun at least with the tutorial period of the campaign. I'm pretty sure I learned more about football last night than I did the entire rest of my life beforehand. My wife commented "this is the only way football could be interesting." :D

My only gripe is that the turnover rule isn't introduced until the end of the tutorial and it's such a huge shift in how you have to weigh risk and reward, turn order, that I feeling should've been there early on. At the same time, I got used to it. The game feels not dissimilar from Fire Emblem and I'm really looking forward to playing more tonight.
Yes.... Yesssss...

I agree with you that the tutorial is too slow in teaching all the rules, specifically turnover. That's the single most important thing to understand, because Blood Bowl is a game about risk management, since nearly everything you do can have a catastrophic end.

Are you playing on console or PC?
 
Yes.... Yesssss...

I agree with you that the tutorial is too slow in teaching all the rules, specifically turnover. That's the single most important thing to understand, because Blood Bowl is a game about risk management, since nearly everything you do can have a catastrophic end.

Are you playing on console or PC?
Console. The PS4 sale was what drew me to it. I doubt my computer could handle it.

It'll definitely be my thing for at least the next couple weeks. Once Monster Hunter World comes out, I'll probably see nothing else for at least a month. But Blood Bowl II is a welcome break from Overwatch. (I know I was playing Darkest Dungeon before, but I kinda never recovered from that Necromancer apprentice battle; losing all my best people was pretty damn discouraging, so I ended up back at Overwatch again.)
 
Console. The PS4 sale was what drew me to it. I doubt my computer could handle it.

It'll definitely be my thing for at least the next couple weeks. Once Monster Hunter World comes out, I'll probably see nothing else for at least a month. But Blood Bowl II is a welcome break from Overwatch. (I know I was playing Darkest Dungeon before, but I kinda never recovered from that Necromancer apprentice battle; losing all my best people was pretty damn discouraging, so I ended up back at Overwatch again.)
One thing that I know isn't apparent to new players: if you're only interested in single player (multiplayer is where it's at, but I don't know how many people play on PS4) you can create a solo league by choosing play in a league, and then choosing solo. From there you can create a custom team and play in a league against ai
 
One thing that I know isn't apparent to new players: if you're only interested in single player (multiplayer is where it's at, but I don't know how many people play on PS4) you can create a solo league by choosing play in a league, and then choosing solo. From there you can create a custom team and play in a league against ai
Thanks, that I didn't know. I wasn't sure what league was. I want to try multiplayer, but I wanted to learn a little first, and I'd definitely rather play with something other than humans (like Orcs or Skaven). Getting some practice in single player first would be preferable, so I'll take advantage of that before trying my luck online.
 
Thanks, that I didn't know. I wasn't sure what league was. I want to try multiplayer, but I wanted to learn a little first, and I'd definitely rather play with something other than humans (like Orcs or Skaven). Getting some practice in single player first would be preferable, so I'll take advantage of that before trying my luck online.
If you get really into it, I think the league I play in (which is the biggest private league in BB2) has a PS4 sister league. You can be a part of amazing plays like this:
 

GasBandit

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Shovel Knight

A good game to play when couchbound, I figured. I played it before, but never all the way through to the end. I remember how great and crisp the controls were. Well it has taken less than a day to convince myself that all controllers be they steam or otherwise are vastly inferior to keyboard and mouse. There is literally no game out there, barring flight simulators - which there are none of worth for console anyway - which would not be better served with mouse and keyboard rather than thumbstick and buttons.

And, of course, having briefly tried Killing Floor 2 with the controller, anyone who willingly plays a first person shooter with a console controller should be chemically castrated so they can't pass their Insanity On to the Next Generation.

PC Master race forever, console peasants STFU.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Wait, keyboard and mouse, better for platformers, driving games, fighting games, etc?

You crazy man.
Yes. Everything.

Controllers are cancer. You don't even need the mouse for Platformers, driving games or fighting games. Keyboard alone is vastly superior.

Now, you could argue for a special wheel controller for driving games, or a full-size joystick as in the arcade for fighting games, but controllers are shit for shit people who are shit.
 
Yes. Everything.

Controllers are cancer. You don't even need the mouse for Platformers, driving games or fighting games. Keyboard alone is vastly superior.

Now, you could argue for a special wheel controller for driving games, or a full-size joystick as in the arcade for fighting games, but controllers are shit for shit people who are shit.
A keyboard is better for a 3D platformer like Mario?

I'm going to go out on a limb and still say, you're crazy.
 

GasBandit

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A keyboard is better for a 3D platformer like Mario?

I'm going to go out on a limb and still say, you're crazy.
Hell yes it is. Unless your controller is, like, the original NES or SNES controllers. I've been playing Mario games on an emulator with my keyboard for over 20 years and the cheapest $5 keyboard blows this thumbstick nonsense out of the water no contest.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
That's why they also usually have d-pads.
But they're never in the right place, or they're never quite "right." They end up being no better than the sticks. I mean, it begs the question - why even have the sticks if 30 year old tech is better?

Also I love it when wireless controllers suddenly stop working for no reason in the middle of a boss fight. That is definitely something I've never had happen with a keyboard.
 
But they're never in the right place, or they're never quite "right." They end up being no better than the sticks. I mean, it begs the question - why even have the sticks if 30 year old tech is better?

Also I love it when wireless controllers suddenly stop working for no reason in the middle of a boss fight. That is definitely something I've never had happen with a keyboard.
It happens with wireless keyboards though. :p
 

GasBandit

Staff member
It happens with wireless keyboards though. :p
Wireless keyboards were just a bad idea anyway. Nothing good happens without wires.

Anyway, I pried my wounded carcass off the couch and over to my computer, and finished beating Shovel Knight on the keyboard. SO much better.
 
all controllers be they steam or otherwise are vastly inferior to keyboard and mouse.
Keyboard and GAMING mouse, you mean.
I gotta say most controllers would have an edge over the standard red LED, two-button kind.
In fact, the best sounding setup I’ve heard of is gaming mouse in dominant hand (for aiming and firing) and key bound controller in off hand (for movement and activated abilities).

—Patrick
 

figmentPez

Staff member
Shovel Knight

A good game to play when couchbound, I figured. I played it before, but never all the way through to the end. I remember how great and crisp the controls were. Well it has taken less than a day to convince myself that all controllers be they steam or otherwise are vastly inferior to keyboard and mouse. There is literally no game out there, barring flight simulators - which there are none of worth for console anyway - which would not be better served with mouse and keyboard rather than thumbstick and buttons.
How many hundreds, if not thousands, of hours have you spent playing games with a Nintendo D-pad, or a keyboard and mouse? How long have you played with a modern anlog stick? It takes hundreds, if not thousands, of hours to reach your fullest potential at a task. I hate playing platformers (2D or 3D) with a keyboard. It's freaking awful for me. Give me a controller any day. Especially for a 3D platformer, I can't imagine trying to play something like Donkey Kong 64 without analog control.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Keyboard and GAMING mouse, you mean.
I gotta say most controllers would have an edge over the standard red LED, two-button kind.
No.

How many hundreds, if not thousands, of hours have you spent playing games with a Nintendo D-pad, or a keyboard and mouse? How long have you played with a modern anlog stick? It takes hundreds, if not thousands, of hours to reach your fullest potential at a task. I hate playing platformers (2D or 3D) with a keyboard. It's freaking awful for me. Give me a controller any day. Especially for a 3D platformer, I can't imagine trying to play something like Donkey Kong 64 without analog control.
I believe this would be called... internalized peasantry.
 
I hate playing 2d games and JRPGs on a keyboard/mouse, I'd rather play them laying on the couch with a controller. That said, I can't deal with controllers and first person games, I can't coordinate my hands well enough to deal with moving and turning the camera simultaneously because I didn't really use consoles in the 3d first person generation, outside of Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. I have a PS2 and a PS3, but those are definitely my JRPG machines, and Nintendo was not exactly brimming with 1st person games before the Switch. For the most part, I think 100% that keyboard/mouse is better for 1st person games.

I'm pretty sure saying keyboards are better for platformers is masochism though.
 
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