NVidia 30-Series announced

Dave

Staff member
Looks like September is when Dave is doing a redo of his PC.

GeForce RTX 30-Series GPU information:


RTX 3090
RTX 3080
RTX 3070
GPU
Samsung 8N GA102​
Samsung 8N GA102​
Samsung 8N GA104​
Transistor
28 billion​
28 billion​
17 billion​
SMs
82​
68​
46​
CUDA Cores
10496 CUDA Cores​
8704 CUDA Cores​
5888 CUDA Cores​
Boost Clock
1.7 Ghz​
1.71 Ghz​
1.73 Ghz​
Shader FLOPS
36 Shader TFLOPS​
30 Shader TFLOPS​
20 Shader TFLOPS​
RT FLOPS
69 RT TFLOPS​
58 RT TFLOPS​
40 RT TFLOPS​
Tensor FLOPS
285 Tensor TFLOPS​
238 Tensor TFLOPS​
163 Tensor TFLOPS​
Tensor Cores
328 3rd Gen Tensor Cores​
272 3rd Gen Tensor Cores​
184 3rd Gen Tensor Cores​
Memory Interface
384-bit​
320-bit​
256-bit​
Memory Speed
19.5 Gbps​
19 Gbps​
16 Gbps​
Memory Bandwidth
936 GB/s​
760 GB/s​
512 GB/s​
VRAM Size
24GB GDDR6X​
10GB GDDR6X​
8GB GDDR6​
Max TGP
350W​
320W​
220W​
PSU Requirement
750W​
750W​
650W​
Price
$1499 MSRP​
$699 MSRP​
$499 MSRP​
Release Date
September 24th​
September 17th​
October​
Performance Shown:
  • RTX 3070
    • Same performance as RTX 2080 Ti
  • RTX 3080
    • Up to 2x performance vs previous generation (RT Scenario)
    • New dual axial flow through thermal design, the GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition is up to 3x quieter and keeps the GPU up to 20 degrees Celsius cooler than the RTX 2080.
  • RTX 3090
    • Most powerful GPU in the world
    • New dual axial flow through thermal design, the GeForce RTX 3090 is up to 10 times quieter and keeps the GPU up to 30 degrees Celsius cooler than the TITAN RTX design.
 
Yikes. 500$ for a GPU equivalent to an 20080TI? prices are gonna freaking drop. How nice that I am planning on buying a new GPU.
 
Been trying to figure out how to post this but thanks to @Dave for plowing ahead.

Good luck trying to get one of the 3090 cards, btw. The US$2500 Titan RTX (the top-of-the-line "Titan" version of the current Turing-based 2xxx-series) also has 24GB VRAM but "only" has 4608 CUDA cores. The RTX 3090 will bring 10496 CUDA cores (that's 2.25x as many as the Titan!) but retail for $1000 less. Heck, even the "lowly" RTX 3070 has 5888 cores (almost 30% more than the Titan RTX) yet its MSRP is supposed to be just US$500. The machine-learning/geological/simulation/molecular crowd is going to eat every single one of the 3090 cards they can get their hands on (and probably take a big bite out of the 3080/3070 inventory, too)...at least unless/until NVIDIA releases a Titan version of Ampere (which could conceivably have as many as 11776 cores, if it follows the same pattern).

Anyway for us mere mortals (i.e., those of us who live at 2K/1440p/[W]QHD and below), the RTX 3070 is probably going to be the one to get, assuming they don't release an RTX-free "GTX 1760 Ti" like they did with Turing. The RTX 3080 and up with their 10GB VRAM are probably aimed more towards the 4K and up people.

--Patrick
 
Ok, I like bleeding edge technology, but even I'd have to balk and wonder what I'd do with a 3090. I could see upgrading my 2080ti to a 3080, but who is the 3090 for? Even if I had a 4k monitor (I have a 2k 165hz), the 3080 is more than enough.
 
Ok, I like bleeding edge technology, but even I'd have to balk and wonder what I'd do with a 3090. I could see upgrading my 2080ti to a 3080, but who is the 3090 for? Even if I had a 4k monitor (I have a 2k 165hz), the 3080 is more than enough.
As Patrick said above - it's probably aimed more at people using it for other uses than for actually rendering what's on your screen.

And I think there might be a use for vr rigs, too, given the need for 2 displays with 0 latency.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
The 3090 might be for doing VR while simultaneously rendering a spectator feed on a wall comprised of 6 or more 4k displays.

And yeah, such video walls do exist already, but right now we're downscaling to spread 4k across howevermany displays there are... but that's only because we don't have the processor power to do 11520x6480 in 4:4:4 chroma subsampling.
 
The 3090 might be for doing VR while simultaneously rendering a spectator feed on a wall comprised of 6 or more 4k displays.

And yeah, such video walls do exist already, but right now we're downscaling to spread 4k across howevermany displays there are... but that's only because we don't have the processor power to do 11520x6480 in 4:4:4 chroma subsampling.
You and I are going to have to have a chat about video walls one of these days.
 
I wanted to be silly this gen after skipping last and get the big boy but translated to CAD, the 3090 will be basically as much as the total cost of my current machine. Think I'll step it back and go for the 3080 this time and still be laughing.
 

Dave

Staff member
I just wish the cards were available to PCPartPicker. I need to get a new MOBO and CPU as well, but I can't do anything about compatibility yet because I won't know anything. I know I should be patient, but I'm just not. And no, I'm not going to wait for benchmarking. Benchmarks are going to be better than my GTX1080 regardless.
 
Still be cheaper to put it together myself.
I don't disagree.
I was just pointing it out because that means it is even more likely there are card variants in the pipeline that haven't been announced yet.
Also 4K gaming is 100% good enough for the likes of you. :p

--Patrick
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Maybe I'm getting old, but gaming in 1080p at 27" is still plenty for me, I can't tell the difference at that size. Hell, watching movies and TV, 720p is usually good enough for me.

That said, in professional settings, I can definitely tell the difference between 1080p and 4k on an 85" display trying to show documents/spreadsheets.
 
*me with my paltry GTX 1060 3gb
You and Cranky both, man. He's still rocking a 1060 6GB atop a 5775C, and the best I got is a 580 8GB riding atop dual Xeon 5670's.
My son has the best CPU with an i7-6700, but he's piping it through only a GT 750 Ti so he can still use VGA.

--Patrick
 
I'm still running a i7-4790 paired with a 750ti. It works fine as most of my gaming is console.
 
I9-9900k and a 1070 here. Graphics card has been the bottleneck for a year now since the upgrade I did but we all knew the new cards were on the way so I didn't bother upgrading it when I rebuilt.
 
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i7-6700 and a 1070, not really feeling like the cpu is my issue as much as its time for a 3080 or a 3090 to drive my 3 4k 32 inch screens and oculus rift the 1070 is getting cranky when i try to play anything and run all my monitors at the same time.
 
I'm still running my GTX 1070 and as long as it still works, I don't see myself replacing it.

Of course, it helps that I usually play games that are about as graphically demanding as Stardew Valley and the like.
 
The 1070 was a really nice "sweet spot" card if you wanted something better than the more mundane 1060 cards.
In the 20x0 era, assuming you don't actually NEED what RTX has to offer, the 1660 Ti was THE price/performance leader.
But now that the 3000 series has been launched, they are going to sell SO many 3070s. I'd hold out a bit for the rumored 16GB Ti version, but that's just me.

We're still waiting to see what AMD releases, of course, but if prior history is to be believed, it'll be something at least on par with the 3070, maybe the 3080, it will cost less, but it will use maybe 25-50W more power.

--Patrick
 

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You know, I was thinking about putting my card up for sale today and trying to sell it in a week and get a new card, but I'm not sure if that's wise now. I might sell the card and have no video card until Christmas.
 

Dave

Staff member
They are saying that the inventory is going to be really, REALLY low. Basically if you don't get yours on the 17th you're fucked until next year. Watch eBay & Amazon for third party sellers at 5x the price. To those people I say "Fuck you and I hope you sell nothing and lose your fucking house."
 
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