[Rant] Tech Whine Like a baby thread

Does it matter where you touch the case for the noise to stop (only stops in certain areas)?

Things I can think of that can cause humming: spinning (non-flash) hard drive vibration and no longer being absorbed and they (absorption pads) need to be replaced, dust/junk on fan blades causing uneven spin, fan bearings starting to go.
Pretty sure the noise comes from the case glass panel. It stops when I remove it.
 

GasBandit

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You know, someone should tell Valve they've had enough time to upgrade their shit to the point where my Steam updates don't need to sit in the queue for 2 weeks any more, and we should be back to updating immediately by default by now.
 
Harfbuzz update means qtwebengine, libreoffice, and firefox all need rebuilt. On both linux boxes. They *might* be done by the time I get home from work tomorrow morning.
 

GasBandit

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My father cancelled his comcast cable internet in a fit of pique, which I can totally understand, Comcast is the devil.

But I had to spend several nights last week on the phone with him walking him through factory resetting his chromecast and amazon fire stick and attempting to get them all on his phone's wi fi hotspot.

I told him "Ok, talk to you in a few days when this stops working."

Sure enough, today I get the call. See, I come from a long line of cheapskates on my father's side who refuse to acknowledge that you get what you pay for (especially in electronics).

Unbeknownst to me, in order to save money, my father, grandfather, stepmother, etc all got on a single MetroPCS family plan that advertised itself as unlimited internet.

And I got to have the same discussion with him as I did with my maternal grandfather when HE thought he'd also found the mother of all internet access loopholes. "Unlimited internet for $20/mo! It's a good deal!"

Yeah, all these fly-by-night second-string cell phone service providers always have it written into the contract you sign up for that yes, your data plan is "unlimited" which means it never gets entirely cut off (just limited to 256kbit after X gigabytes), and oh yeah there's also an exception clause in the 4 pt font on page 7 of the contract that says that if they catch you streaming ANY video (even youtube) you are cut off.

So yeah, guess which side of my family just got cut off from the internet.

And I told him, "yeah, even the GOOD cell phone data providers will probably limit you to 10 or 20 gigs a month."

"But," he spluttered, "even one 720p movie is almost a gig by itself!" Little side note, literally all my parents do all day long since retirement is stream netflix/amazon prime/plex.

"Yes it is," I confirmed.

It's so exasperating when boomers think they have found a secret way to game the system. No, Dad, these companies have been gaming the system a lot longer and a lot better than you.

So anyway, now *I* am calling/emailing around for broadband alternative providers for my Dad, because I don't want him back on Comcast either, and his boomer brain breaks down and collapses under the weight and complexity of navigating today's broadband market.
 
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his boomer brain breaks down and collapses under the weight and complexity of navigating today's broadband market.
I can't even get people to understand the difference between "memory" (RAM) and "storage" (HDD/SSD). "It's all gigabytes, right?" Actually no there's a big difference and don't EVEN get me started on trying to explain to you that now it's actually gibibytes...

--Patrick
 
My father cancelled his comcast cable internet in a fit of pique, which I can totally understand, Comcast is the devil.

But I had to spend several nights last week on the phone with him walking him through factory resetting his chromecast and amazon fire stick and attempting to get them all on his phone's wi fi hotspot.

I told him "Ok, talk to you in a few days when this stops working."

Sure enough, today I get the call. See, I come from a long line of cheapskates on my father's side who refuse to acknowledge that you get what you pay for (especially in electronics).

Unbeknownst to me, in order to save money, my father, grandfather, stepmother, etc all got on a single MetroPCS family plan that advertised itself as unlimited internet.

And I got to have the same discussion with him as I did with my maternal grandfather when HE thought he'd also found the mother of all internet access loopholes. "Unlimited internet for $20/mo! It's a good deal!"

Yeah, all these fly-by-night second-string cell phone service providers always have it written into the contract you sign up for that yes, your data plan is "unlimited" which means it never gets entirely cut off (just limited to 256kbit after X gigabytes), and oh yeah there's also an exception clause in the 4 pt font on page 7 of the contract that says that if they catch you streaming ANY video (even youtube) you are cut off.

So yeah, guess which side of my family just got cut off from the internet.

And I told him, "yeah, even the GOOD cell phone data providers will probably limit you to 10 or 20 gigs a month."

"But," he spluttered, "even one 720p movie is almost a gig by itself!" Little side note, literally all my parents do all day long since retirement is stream netflix/amazon prime/plex.

"Yes it is," I confirmed.

It's so exasperating when boomers think they have found a secret way to game the system. No, Dad, these companies have been gaming the system a lot longer and a lot better than you.

So anyway, now *I* am calling/emailing around for broadband alternative providers for my Dad, because I don't want him back on Comcast either, and his boomer brain breaks down and collapses under the weight and complexity of navigating today's broadband market.
My plan gives me 80gb a month, no questions asked. Move to the civilized world.
 

GasBandit

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My plan gives me 80gb a month, no questions asked. Move to the civilized world.
My plan gives me unlimited everything at gigabit speed.

But my father is on a fixed income and not willing to shell out for that.

Which is a nice way of saying that something like 15 years ago he stopped finding work he was willing to do at a payment he was willing to accept, and as the years went on he just decided he was retired instead of adjusting his expectations.

And now he's talking about a reverse mortgage on the house, and I suspect he is in arrears with the IRS.

But that's a topic for another thread.
 
Paul's Hardware posted a tech deals video yesterday featuring a 1TB Crucial P2 NVMe drive for ~$85. Cool. I've got that. So I go over to amazon and order it plus a USB enclosure for it for cloning my boot drive.

MOMENTS later: I scroll down to the video comments. Turns out Crucial changed their flash chips, and performance has *tanked*. To the point where the drive is on several DO NOT BUY lists. Sigh. Cancel.

So I'm out $100 or so bucks until the authorization expires. About a week. So it goes. Whew. They didn't run the card yet.
 
The NVMe arrived this morning. I was too tired to try to install it then, so I went to bed.

Good thing I did, because I've spent the last four hours fighting to get the motherboard to recognize it. I'm glad I got the USB enclosure for it so I could make sure it works. There's another rant coming on "free" disk cloning software later.

Anyway, only in the last half hour did I discover I needed a BIOS update to get the drive to work in the m.2 slot. Lo and behold, the drive is now recognized. First attempt at booting on the cloned install failed. Commence fresh install. Go me.
 
Using NVMe and booting from NVMe are two different things, unfortunately.
Here's hoping your hardware was able to do a (U)EFI install the second time 'round instead of an old-fashioned "Legacy" BIOS install.

--Patrick
 
Using NVMe and booting from NVMe are two different things, unfortunately.
Here's hoping your hardware was able to do a (U)EFI install the second time 'round instead of an old-fashioned "Legacy" BIOS install.

--Patrick
It did. If only I'd known what I really needed from the start. I'd tried resetting CMOS first, but that didn't work. Now I've got to put all the previous BIOS settings back the way they were.
 
This whine is @figmentPez's fault. :p

Because of his tumblr reblog, I switched back to Firefox and went to DuckDuckGo for my searches. So far so good.

Except DDG doesn't play as well with image search if you're trying to link the results to other sites like forums and reddit. The end URL is a mess. Thus the whine.

Happy now, Pez? You should be. Another mostly satisfied customer here. :D
 
The second 16GB RAM kit is in and recognized... but not at the 3200MHz advertised. Enabling XMP2 results in an immediate crash when trying to boot. XMP1 works at a slightly lower speed. CPU-Z goes on to tell me that those other two sticks are running in single channel mode, as well. (see below) Not exactly what I was expecting.
 
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Mi pc won't turn on. The motherboard says something is wrong with the cpu. Best case, it's the psu. Worst case, I need to find out if I need a new cpu or a new motherboard or both.
 

GasBandit

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Mi pc won't turn on. The motherboard says something is wrong with the cpu. Best case, it's the psu. Worst case, I need to find out if I need a new cpu or a new motherboard or both.
Does it give you a series of beeps when you try to turn it on? If so, the pattern of the beeps is usually an errorcode.
 
Does it give you a series of beeps when you try to turn it on? If so, the pattern of the beeps is usually an errorcode.
No. First it didn't boot and the led that says that there is a cpu problem was on. But now It just turns off immediately.
 
The second 16GB RAM kit is in and recognized... but not at the 3200MHz advertised.
It is not unusual for memory to slow down when you expand it. A computer that runs fine at 3200MHz with only two sticks may slow down to 2666MHz when 4 sticks are installed. This is usually just due to the increased load on the memory controller.
Mi pc won't turn on. The motherboard says something is wrong with the cpu. Best case, it's the psu. Worst case, I need to find out if I need a new cpu or a new motherboard or both.
If you're lucky, maybe it is merely a cooling issue - a stuck CPU fan, the heatsink may be coming loose from the CPU, or maybe just need to clean and put fresh paste on it.
If you are not lucky, when you are checking for the above, you may see that some capacitors near the CPU socket are starting to swell.

--Patrick
 
It is not unusual for memory to slow down when you expand it. A computer that runs fine at 3200MHz with only two sticks may slow down to 2666MHz when 4 sticks are installed. This is usually just due to the increased load on the memory controller.
Some googling tells me this is exactly the case. Four sticks at that speed is too much for the controller on the 2600. It looks like it'll happily run the slightly slower, but still faster than default, XMP1 profile all day.

As for my channel confusion. TIL Channel != Rank. The Memory tab in CPU-Z is in fact showing Dual channel mode. What I was looking at and getting confused on was the Rank in the SPD tab. What that tells me is the original set of sticks were dual-sided, and the new pair are single. Makes sense as they were ordered nearly three years apart from each other.
 
so I have a weird issue, i got a DAC and headphone amp stack, and when i left this morning everything was working fine, when i came home tonight despite powering up my amp no longer outputs sound, im not sure what I did wrong, i have only had the pair for a few days. when i plug directly into the dac, i can get sound so i know its something to do with the amp >_>

EDIT: Ive tried all kinds of things but the most damning is when i plug the rca ins to a working headphone jack no sound is making it through the amp despite it being powered and and the power light being on. I sent an email to the manufacturer, i ordered it on the 23rd of oct, got it the 26th. and only have used it for a few hours due to work.
 
Hopefully it was not powered on without the headphones attached. Running an amp with no load can damage the amp. Otherwise probably just a bum amp.

--Patrick
 

GasBandit

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so I have a weird issue, i got a DAC and headphone amp stack, and when i left this morning everything was working fine, when i came home tonight despite powering up my amp no longer outputs sound, im not sure what I did wrong, i have only had the pair for a few days. when i plug directly into the dac, i can get sound so i know its something to do with the amp >_>

EDIT: Ive tried all kinds of things but the most damning is when i plug the rca ins to a working headphone jack no sound is making it through the amp despite it being powered and and the power light being on. I sent an email to the manufacturer, i ordered it on the 23rd of oct, got it the 26th. and only have used it for a few hours due to work.
Sounds like a defective amp to me.
 
Hopefully it was not powered on without the headphones attached. Running an amp with no load can damage the amp. Otherwise probably just a bum amp.

--Patrick
Sounds like a defective amp to me.
so it has a rca out and the headphone jack and I have been either outputting the sound alternatively to the line in to my computer speakers or right to my headphones late at night. I did not know this was an issue nor was it ever cautioned to me by the manual which I actually read lol. knowing this now, I will make sure I switch them off when they will not be in use going forward. im just really bummed as the little bit I did use them it has been super awesome.

EDIT BOOGALO: no it has protection for what pat suggested, they sent me a slip to send it back, if its really defective I get a new one, if its not I get a bill for what it costs to repair. :|
 
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I want to build a new system.
Thanks to some "generosity*" from work, I have some extra money (enough to get me started, at least).
I did a whole buncha research.
The CPU I settled on is still fairly new (only officially released in the USA since Sept 9th).
Right now you can only buy it... in Australia.
Could buy a prebuilt system with it IF I lived... in Poland.
Site after site: "We don't have that SKU listed/don't know when it will be in stock."
Oh and the aftermarket cooler I want to use won't work because the motherboard I want to use comes with a permanently bonded backplate that interferes with essentially every 3rd-party cooler mounting kit.
Ok FINE I get it I guess I'll wait until July 2022 and see what the next round of tech will bring gRrrrRrRmmMmhmHmmm...

--Patrick
*I think it's really that they're feeling the labor pressure and are trying to keep employees from leaving but hey whatever a little extra for meeeee.
 
I want to build a new system.
Thanks to some "generosity*" from work, I have some extra money (enough to get me started, at least).
I did a whole buncha research.
The CPU I settled on is still fairly new (only officially released in the USA since Sept 9th).
Right now you can only buy it... in Australia.
Could buy a prebuilt system with it IF I lived... in Poland.
Site after site: "We don't have that SKU listed/don't know when it will be in stock."
Oh and the aftermarket cooler I want to use won't work because the motherboard I want to use comes with a permanently bonded backplate that interferes with essentially every 3rd-party cooler mounting kit.
Ok FINE I get it I guess I'll wait until July 2022 and see what the next round of tech will bring gRrrrRrRmmMmhmHmmm...

--Patrick
*I think it's really that they're feeling the labor pressure and are trying to keep employees from leaving but hey whatever a little extra for meeeee.
So what sort of frankenbuild were you thinking of going with?
 
I can't even get people to understand the difference between "memory" (RAM) and "storage" (HDD/SSD). "It's all gigabytes, right?" Actually no there's a big difference and don't EVEN get me started on trying to explain to you that now it's actually gibibytes...

--Patrick
"Why can't I use the HD to get more RAM?"
 
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