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I shouldve specified the Director's cut. Point to Charlie.
Spider-Man 4 swinging into theaters May 2011? No, Never. Raimi out, reboot time
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A Director's cut making a long, indulgent movie into an even LONGER and MORE indulgent movie? Well blow me down, that makes it the best of all time!
A Director's cut making a long, indulgent movie into an even LONGER and MORE indulgent movie? Well blow me down, that makes it the best of all time!
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A good Director's cut can give you a whole new movie the way the director wanted it (Superman 2's Donner cut which is very different), end the story the way its supposed to end instead of what the studio decided (Blade Runner's ending that was supposed to show that Ford was a replicant) or show the adaptation without key scenes that were deleted due to censorship or too much runtime (Wachmen with the death of the original Nite Owl, Dr Manhattan sending everyone off then picking up his stuff, for example).
A movie isnt just in the hand of the director, because as everyone who watched Spidey 3 can see, all it takes is for one Studio executive to have an idiotic idea, like lets say "hey, Venom's cool, put him in!" or "Lets make a happy ending for I am Legend and ignore what the story was about" and we get a shittier movie.... its a pity we wont see Raimi's director cut of Spiderman 3, with Venom cut out.
If that was sarcastic, lol, if not, Charlie, my suggestion, start buying dvds, compare a few director's cuts and returning here with that wisdom gained.:uhhuh:
Of couuurse it is... we all know that is all what a director's cut is about, and all that crap about a movie being too long for the cinema/studio vs director decisions and censorsship are just myths.
A good Director's cut can give you a whole new movie the way the director wanted it (Superman 2's Donner cut which is very different), end the story the way its supposed to end instead of what the studio decided (Blade Runner's ending that was supposed to show that Ford was a replicant) or show the adaptation without key scenes that were deleted due to censorship or too much runtime (Wachmen with the death of the original Nite Owl, Dr Manhattan sending everyone off then picking up his stuff, for example).
A movie isnt just in the hand of the director, because as everyone who watched Spidey 3 can see, all it takes is for one Studio executive to have an idiotic idea, like lets say "hey, Venom's cool, put him in!" or "Lets make a happy ending for I am Legend and ignore what the story was about" and we get a shittier movie.... its a pity we wont see Raimi's director cut of Spiderman 3, with Venom cut out.
If that was sarcastic, lol, if not, Charlie, my suggestion, start buying dvds, compare a few director's cuts and returning here with that wisdom gained.:uhhuh:
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I haven't seen the Watchmen's director's cut, but I'm alright making assumptions since Zack Snyder is just completely terrible at being a director.
Does it cut out the laughable sex scene? Or the terrible slow-mo in every single action sequence? Can the director's cut fix Malin Ackerman's performance?
What I'm saying is that if the director is good, director's cuts can be huge improvements. If that director is Zack Snyder, then well um.
I haven't seen the Watchmen's director's cut, but I'm alright making assumptions since Zack Snyder is just completely terrible at being a director.
Does it cut out the laughable sex scene? Or the terrible slow-mo in every single action sequence? Can the director's cut fix Malin Ackerman's performance?
What I'm saying is that if the director is good, director's cuts can be huge improvements. If that director is Zack Snyder, then well um.
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The Watchmen movie was good until they got to issue 3 of the comic. Then the changes came around, and Snyder got lazy with trying to adapt the comic faithfully.
High point of that movie was the casting. Sam and Dean's dad made an excellent Comedian.
I bet it tries to tell you the point of the story even more.
The Watchmen movie was good until they got to issue 3 of the comic. Then the changes came around, and Snyder got lazy with trying to adapt the comic faithfully.High point of that movie was the casting. Sam and Dean's dad made an excellent Comedian.
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What drives me nuts is that so many people are calling Watchmen a "near faithful" when the ENTIRE character of Laurie was gutted. She was a major MAJOR part of the comic storyline, the ENTIRE Comedian/Laurie issue was just completely removed. Leaving her just a "face to fuck and kick bad guy ass for one scene". It was easily what killed the movie for me.I bet it tries to tell you the point of the story even more.
High point of that movie was the casting. Sam and Dean's dad made an excellent Comedian.
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I love that they take away her smoking habit, and still keep the scene with her using Archemedes flamethrower. Just made her a bumbling idiot.
What drives me nuts is that so many people are calling Watchmen a "near faithful" when the ENTIRE character of Laurie was gutted. She was a major MAJOR part of the comic storyline, the ENTIRE Comedian/Laurie issue was just completely removed. Leaving her just a "face to fuck and kick bad guy ass for one scene". It was easily what killed the movie for me.[/QUOTE]I bet it tries to tell you the point of the story even more.
High point of that movie was the casting. Sam and Dean's dad made an excellent Comedian.
I love that they take away her smoking habit, and still keep the scene with her using Archemedes flamethrower. Just made her a bumbling idiot.
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I am cautiously optimistic for this. The studio tacked on a whole buch of shit that Rami didnt even want in 3, and thats why it ended up the shit ball it was. I hold a wait and see on this one.
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Actually, the Anti-Venom stories have been pretty decent, even giving a bit more flesh to Brock's character. I thought they were going to be shit, but I was pleasantly surprised.
I am cautiously optimistic for this. The studio tacked on a whole buch of shit that Rami didnt even want in 3, and thats why it ended up the shit ball it was. I hold a wait and see on this one.
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What about... The Anti-Venom!
Or Punisher-Venom. <.<
Actually, the Anti-Venom stories have been pretty decent, even giving a bit more flesh to Brock's character. I thought they were going to be shit, but I was pleasantly surprised.
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Its slightly better, however Snyder puts a shitty scene in the Comedian´s apartment in which Rorschach fights some cops and miraculously disappears after getting shot in point-blank range, while in the comic (and theatrical release) he simply grabs a picture of the first heroes, then fades to the same picture in the Nite Owl´s house.
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Also: Re the spiderman movies. I hope we never see another symbiote again in movie form unless they reboot the series in the future. For good or for bad, the Symbiote story is done and I'd prefer that they move on to other villains.
Especially Carnage. He's not a good enough character to deserve a part in a movie.
Which again, could be said about Kindom Come. To fully appreciate the full story, it helps to know the history of the universe, but it's not absolutely necessary to the story. Both of them however, do require at least a passing knowledge of the main characters. For instance, if you don't know who the Spectre is (which a casual reader would not know) much of the framing story is lost.
Also: Re the spiderman movies. I hope we never see another symbiote again in movie form unless they reboot the series in the future. For good or for bad, the Symbiote story is done and I'd prefer that they move on to other villains.
Especially Carnage. He's not a good enough character to deserve a part in a movie.
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You have to admit, though, Kingdom Come can be read without a trip to wikipedia, while Earth X might be a bit more necessary, as Li3n pointed out.
THAT'S true. I didn't consider The Spectre in my comparison. Although, you do get to know bits and pieces of him throughout the story, kind of like a mystery while the narrator finds out about him, you know?
You have to admit, though, Kingdom Come can be read without a trip to wikipedia, while Earth X might be a bit more necessary, as Li3n pointed out.
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I disagree with you on the Carnage part. Parker has yet to deal with someone truly psychotic and has a pure love for murder/evil.
That's just it, like WHO?
I disagree with you on the Carnage part. Parker has yet to deal with someone truly psychotic and has a pure love for murder/evil.
This concerns me, I have been out of the comic continuity loop for many years...
Shannow
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I disagree with you on the Carnage part. Parker has yet to deal with someone truly psychotic and has a pure love for murder/evil.
Kraven would be awsome and very easy to fit into a movie universe without coming off as retarded, he's also a twofer because they could bring the Chameleon along as well.
Silver Sable and the Kingpin would work well in the same movie. I'd actually support Michael Clark Duncan reprising his role.
Morbius would also be a good choice. I could see that working well in film.
Electro would also be a great movie villain. Of course they wouldnt give him the retarded headgear, but the character itself is sound.
The Lizard has already been set up with Dr Connors being in the previous movies.
Mysterio is another good choice.
Just because you chose the most retarded iteration of the Sinister Six doesn't mean the original lineup wouldn't all make great choices for villains.
This is the original lineup of the Sinister Six
With the exception of the Vulture, all of these characters have and can work in movie form.
Carnage is boring and uninteresting, and above all redundant with Venom already being done. If you think Rami hates Venom, how do you think he'd feel about including his (literally) bastard son into the movieverse. Sorry, but Carnage is a one trick pony and only succeded as a character in the first place was due to the time period in which he was introduced, when everything was EXTREME!!!!111!!!!!!!!11!!!
That's just it, like WHO?
I disagree with you on the Carnage part. Parker has yet to deal with someone truly psychotic and has a pure love for murder/evil.
This concerns me, I have been out of the comic continuity loop for many years...[/QUOTE]
Kraven would be awsome and very easy to fit into a movie universe without coming off as retarded, he's also a twofer because they could bring the Chameleon along as well.
Silver Sable and the Kingpin would work well in the same movie. I'd actually support Michael Clark Duncan reprising his role.
Morbius would also be a good choice. I could see that working well in film.
Electro would also be a great movie villain. Of course they wouldnt give him the retarded headgear, but the character itself is sound.
The Lizard has already been set up with Dr Connors being in the previous movies.
Mysterio is another good choice.
Just because you chose the most retarded iteration of the Sinister Six doesn't mean the original lineup wouldn't all make great choices for villains.
This is the original lineup of the Sinister Six
With the exception of the Vulture, all of these characters have and can work in movie form.
Carnage is boring and uninteresting, and above all redundant with Venom already being done. If you think Rami hates Venom, how do you think he'd feel about including his (literally) bastard son into the movieverse. Sorry, but Carnage is a one trick pony and only succeded as a character in the first place was due to the time period in which he was introduced, when everything was EXTREME!!!!111!!!!!!!!11!!!
Shannow
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Those sure look like fangs to me. It was Eric Larson who added the insanely impossible tongue, though.
For the record, I actually liked the look of Venom in the movie, it was just the shitty story and acting tied to him that I had a problem with.[/quote]
Side note, I own that comic. And the major issue right after.
pretty much everything said in this post is true, and I agree with. Do not get me wrong, I did like carnage when i was younger, but really, he is not much of a character. The most recent things with him were an attempt at interesting and some further characterization, but throghout its history, most things with him have just not been that good at all. One trick pony indeed.
Um, Here's the very first appearence of venom.
Those sure look like fangs to me. It was Eric Larson who added the insanely impossible tongue, though.
For the record, I actually liked the look of Venom in the movie, it was just the shitty story and acting tied to him that I had a problem with.[/quote]
Side note, I own that comic. And the major issue right after.
pretty much everything said in this post is true, and I agree with. Do not get me wrong, I did like carnage when i was younger, but really, he is not much of a character. The most recent things with him were an attempt at interesting and some further characterization, but throghout its history, most things with him have just not been that good at all. One trick pony indeed.
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Already gave him mention and a thumbsup.
See above.
Except we'd need a Blade cross-over, and noone wants that.
Gonna disagree with you on every level here.
This is probably one of the few that would actually work, but in my opinion a very boring villain.
Maybe, but most likely pulled off very poorly.
Except I made mention of the only good Six group members that have come along that haven't already been in the films. The rest are trash.
Except, that again: Carnage was pure insanity, evil and remoseless killer. I think Spidey needs to go up against that to really test his "I won't kill, I'll give him to the cops" morals.
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it was a joke. I hadn't considered Morbius in the conversation to be honest.
it was a joke. I hadn't considered Morbius in the conversation to be honest.Spider-Man 4 swinging into theaters May 2011
Problem is Bowie, noone really pushed Spidey's morals like Carnage. Venom frightened him for the threatning of his family/couldn't sense him or beat him straight up.
Kraven just wanted to hunt him. Green Goblin fucked him up psychologically with the Gwen Stacy thing but otherwise nada. The rest were usually goons doing thugish things.
Problem is Bowie, noone really pushed Spidey's morals like Carnage. Venom frightened him for the threatning of his family/couldn't sense him or beat him straight up.
Kraven just wanted to hunt him. Green Goblin fucked him up psychologically with the Gwen Stacy thing but otherwise nada. The rest were usually goons doing thugish things.
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Shego, really, that isn't something that NEEDS to be explored in a Spiderman movie. Especially given the family friendly tone they are going for. I know you love your remorseless killing machines, but it is flat out a bad idea for the franchise and definately shouldn't see celluloid.
As far as the comics go, The Sin Eater pushed Spidey's morals more than Carnage did, hell, even Black Cat pushed them more (but in a different way). Spidey's reaction to carnage was more of a feeling of impotence than anything else, seeing as the killings were random and the only way he could track Carnage was through the use of Venom's symbiote.
I'd say that the Sin Eater accomplished the same thing as Carnage did without being a shameless cash in on an existing character that was super popular.
Shego, really, that isn't something that NEEDS to be explored in a Spiderman movie. Especially given the family friendly tone they are going for. I know you love your remorseless killing machines, but it is flat out a bad idea for the franchise and definately shouldn't see celluloid.
As far as the comics go, The Sin Eater pushed Spidey's morals more than Carnage did, hell, even Black Cat pushed them more (but in a different way). Spidey's reaction to carnage was more of a feeling of impotence than anything else, seeing as the killings were random and the only way he could track Carnage was through the use of Venom's symbiote.
I'd say that the Sin Eater accomplished the same thing as Carnage did without being a shameless cash in on an existing character that was super popular.
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Ok now I'm just fantasizing. You're right through, Fox is going "kid friendly" for these and it wouldn't happen or be done right.
That would be a fanastic set-up for Spidey 4-5 actually! Trying to stop Carnage all throughout 4, with maybe a secondary villain he does actually stop. Then towards the end, Venom reappears and offers his assistance with all the reason they used in the comic series! Part 5, Venom + Spidey vs Carnage all out! :drool:
Ok now I'm just fantasizing. You're right through, Fox is going "kid friendly" for these and it wouldn't happen or be done right.
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...but he didn't hand either Goblin or Doc Ock over to the police. Or Sandman. Or Venom. Or Harry. In the movie universe, much like most of the Bat-movies, none of the villains get locked up. They get killed off.
Which would be fine...
...but he didn't hand either Goblin or Doc Ock over to the police. Or Sandman. Or Venom. Or Harry. In the movie universe, much like most of the Bat-movies, none of the villains get locked up. They get killed off.
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...but he didn't hand either Goblin or Doc Ock over to the police. Or Sandman. Or Venom. Or Harry. In the movie universe, much like most of the Bat-movies, none of the villains get locked up. They get killed off.[/QUOTE]
Neither sandman or Eddie Brock were killed off, and Norman Osborne dying was pretty much panel for panel from the comic....
Before they retconned that motherfucker....GARFDSGFASEGFAEGAEGFAGAGEe NERDRAGE!
Which would be fine...
...but he didn't hand either Goblin or Doc Ock over to the police. Or Sandman. Or Venom. Or Harry. In the movie universe, much like most of the Bat-movies, none of the villains get locked up. They get killed off.[/QUOTE]
Neither sandman or Eddie Brock were killed off, and Norman Osborne dying was pretty much panel for panel from the comic....
Before they retconned that motherfucker....GARFDSGFASEGFAEGAEGFAGAGEe NERDRAGE!
Shannow
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no,, Carnage would still be a terrible character for these movies. They are right, there are much better avenues to go with, and I really do not see them going the carnage route (dear god I hope)
And yes, Carnage still is a terrible character and Bowie had it right.
no,, Carnage would still be a terrible character for these movies. They are right, there are much better avenues to go with, and I really do not see them going the carnage route (dear god I hope)
And yes, Carnage still is a terrible character and Bowie had it right.
figmentPez
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What if you combine the Lizard and Kraven, a la Spider-Man: Torment? I think it could possibly provide for this...
In the comics Kraven was dead at that point (suicide?) but I think it would be even more interesting if he were still alive. Start off with the Lizard, and Spider-Man fighting to save Dr. Connors, and managing to do it because the man is still inside the beast somwhere. Kraven is watching the whole time, and thinks he can take Spider-Man down. He fails and then turns to Calypso for help. She gives Kraven the potions that make him stronger, and also sets up a trap with the Lizard to weaken Spider-Man. Spidey is then faced with a Lizard that only knows hatred and killing, with man inside to help control the beast, and is faced with a kill or be killed situation.
Normally I'd be completely against putting two villains in the same movie but, like you said, the Lizard isn't that interesting a plot by himself. I think the combination of Lizard and Kraven leads to some interesting contrasts. Both are men turning into animals, but Dr. Connors is trying to avoid that, while Kraven is being willingly driven further into madness by Calypso.
Granted, the whole "kill or be killed" is not exactly the same issue as Carnage getting out repeatedly and Peter being worried that not even the cops can contain the serial killer, but it'd be hard to get a sense of Carnage's inevitable escape across in a single movie. I think it's a pretty good test of Peter's morals facing not only his own death, but his knowledge that the Lizard may kill countless others if he fails. It does loose a little that the Lizard is a former friend, and not a psychopath who can't be redeemed. It'd be hard to play up the whole idea that Dr. Connors is lost and only the Lizard remains, given how many times he and other charcters have been completely lost and redeemed anyway.
This is probably one of the few that would actually work, but in my opinion a very boring villain.[/quote]
What if you combine the Lizard and Kraven, a la Spider-Man: Torment? I think it could possibly provide for this...
but without having to have Carnage. For those not familiar with the Torment story arc, in a nutshell Calypso drugged the Lizard into a completley mindless killing machine, removing all trace of Dr. Connnors, and set him on Spider-Man (and coated his claws with poison to make Spidey hallucinate).
In the comics Kraven was dead at that point (suicide?) but I think it would be even more interesting if he were still alive. Start off with the Lizard, and Spider-Man fighting to save Dr. Connors, and managing to do it because the man is still inside the beast somwhere. Kraven is watching the whole time, and thinks he can take Spider-Man down. He fails and then turns to Calypso for help. She gives Kraven the potions that make him stronger, and also sets up a trap with the Lizard to weaken Spider-Man. Spidey is then faced with a Lizard that only knows hatred and killing, with man inside to help control the beast, and is faced with a kill or be killed situation.
Normally I'd be completely against putting two villains in the same movie but, like you said, the Lizard isn't that interesting a plot by himself. I think the combination of Lizard and Kraven leads to some interesting contrasts. Both are men turning into animals, but Dr. Connors is trying to avoid that, while Kraven is being willingly driven further into madness by Calypso.
Granted, the whole "kill or be killed" is not exactly the same issue as Carnage getting out repeatedly and Peter being worried that not even the cops can contain the serial killer, but it'd be hard to get a sense of Carnage's inevitable escape across in a single movie. I think it's a pretty good test of Peter's morals facing not only his own death, but his knowledge that the Lizard may kill countless others if he fails. It does loose a little that the Lizard is a former friend, and not a psychopath who can't be redeemed. It'd be hard to play up the whole idea that Dr. Connors is lost and only the Lizard remains, given how many times he and other charcters have been completely lost and redeemed anyway.
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I agree with this. They did manage to make him a fairly threatening villain (even if it was simply out of desperation) in one of the later issues of Ultimate Spider-Man (#122, I think). Maybe play up the Ultimate continuity of 'brilliant inventor who loses his mind and starts striking back at the company who stole everything from him', with the owner of said corporation being the Kingpin and a potential match-up between him and Spider-Man later on.
That said, Shocker wouldn't work well as much but a secondary villain.
Indeed, but I'd say there's still some leeway for a smart Shocker, even if he isn't evil mastermind material by any stretch of imagination. Not as if the movies have been slavishly devoted to comic characterisation, after all.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this. They did manage to make him a fairly threatening villain (even if it was simply out of desperation) in one of the later issues of Ultimate Spider-Man (#122, I think). Maybe play up the Ultimate continuity of 'brilliant inventor who loses his mind and starts striking back at the company who stole everything from him', with the owner of said corporation being the Kingpin and a potential match-up between him and Spider-Man later on.
That said, Shocker wouldn't work well as much but a secondary villain.
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The whole relentless killer bit...eh, I'm tired of it. It's a one-trick pony. Okay, we get it. You have no compunction against killing and in fact you take great glee in it. Whoop-de-doo. Letting go is easy, so it makes for a flat villain. Give me a guy with conflicts and issues. That's way more interesting.
The whole relentless killer bit...eh, I'm tired of it. It's a one-trick pony. Okay, we get it. You have no compunction against killing and in fact you take great glee in it. Whoop-de-doo. Letting go is easy, so it makes for a flat villain. Give me a guy with conflicts and issues. That's way more interesting.
Shannow
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Though the counter is "I dont want a whiney villian, lamenting about everything, and too conflicted!!!" etc.
personally, I would love a Lizard storyline, or Mysterio, or Electro, or shit, most of what was said already. There is jsut so damn much to work with still.
Though the counter is "I dont want a whiney villian, lamenting about everything, and too conflicted!!!" etc.
personally, I would love a Lizard storyline, or Mysterio, or Electro, or shit, most of what was said already. There is jsut so damn much to work with still.
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Lizard, Kraven, and Calypso? We're going for another Spidey 3. It's too much for one movie's background worth.
Maybe go the Dark Knight route at some point, and stop killing villains between movies.
Lizard, Kraven, and Calypso? We're going for another Spidey 3. It's too much for one movie's background worth.
Maybe go the Dark Knight route at some point, and stop killing villains between movies.
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I don't want another damn origin movie. Fuck the general audience if they don't know the villains backstory. Just start the movie kicking ass and end the movie kicking ass. I don't want to see a moving narrative and a villain we can relate to.
I also don't want to see Spidey beat to shit, and then trick the bad guy in the end, again. Come up with something more original.
I don't want another damn origin movie. Fuck the general audience if they don't know the villains backstory. Just start the movie kicking ass and end the movie kicking ass. I don't want to see a moving narrative and a villain we can relate to.
I also don't want to see Spidey beat to shit, and then trick the bad guy in the end, again. Come up with something more original.
figmentPez
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As for Kraven and Calypso, I think they're a matched pair. Calypso can just be a generic VooDoo woman if they don't want to develop her character. Heck, she can just be implied in Kraven's origin and not even cast. However, I think they work much better as a couple, with Kraven's obsession with hunting being driven to madness by her evil.
I'm not suggesting a movie with 3 villains. I'm suggesting a movie with one villain in two people, and a tool that villain is using.
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The Lizard needs like 5 minutes backstory, it could all happen during the opening credits. We don't need to know anything except that Peter knows Dr. Connors, who is a scientist, and that science went horribly wrong. We don't need to know how Pete and Kurt met, we don't need to know how an arm was lost, we don't need to know he's been working on this formula for years, we just need to know it's a scientist who turned into a beast.
As for Kraven and Calypso, I think they're a matched pair. Calypso can just be a generic VooDoo woman if they don't want to develop her character. Heck, she can just be implied in Kraven's origin and not even cast. However, I think they work much better as a couple, with Kraven's obsession with hunting being driven to madness by her evil.
I'm not suggesting a movie with 3 villains. I'm suggesting a movie with one villain in two people, and a tool that villain is using.
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Wait, wut? I thought that was the basic premise behind all Spider-Man stories.
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Before they retconned that motherfucker....GARFDSGFASEGFAEGAEGFAGAGEe NERDRAGE![/QUOTE]
Eddie went and got himself blowed up.
My point is, to argue against Shego's, that there has not been a single "bringing the villains in to justice" moment in any of the Spidey movies.
Neither sandman or Eddie Brock were killed off, and Norman Osborne dying was pretty much panel for panel from the comic....
Before they retconned that motherfucker....GARFDSGFASEGFAEGAEGFAGAGEe NERDRAGE![/QUOTE]
Eddie went and got himself blowed up.
My point is, to argue against Shego's, that there has not been a single "bringing the villains in to justice" moment in any of the Spidey movies.
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Before they retconned that motherfucker....GARFDSGFASEGFAEGAEGFAGAGEe NERDRAGE![/QUOTE]
Eddie went and got himself blowed up.
My point is, to argue against Shego's, that there has not been a single "bringing the villains in to justice" moment in any of the Spidey movies.[/QUOTE]
That's right, I forgot he was all retarded and jumped in after the bomb.
I try to put anything venom/movie related out of my head.
Neither sandman or Eddie Brock were killed off, and Norman Osborne dying was pretty much panel for panel from the comic....
Before they retconned that motherfucker....GARFDSGFASEGFAEGAEGFAGAGEe NERDRAGE![/QUOTE]
Eddie went and got himself blowed up.
My point is, to argue against Shego's, that there has not been a single "bringing the villains in to justice" moment in any of the Spidey movies.[/QUOTE]
That's right, I forgot he was all retarded and jumped in after the bomb.
I try to put anything venom/movie related out of my head.
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