Riots in Downtown Toronto

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ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

G20 chaos as protesters rampage in Toronto - Yahoo! Canada News

I'm safe, since I worked at Blockbuster way uptown and far away from all this. I've been worried about my friends who live down there, though.

Frankly speaking, I'm disgusted by all of this. I'm all for PEACEFUL protesting, but what the hell is this kind of wanton destruction supposed to prove?

There was $1 billion spent in security for the G20 in the downtown area and especially surrounding the Convention Centre. In fact, I've been couriering all week, especially around downtown. Yesterday (Friday), it was a ghost town downtown. I'd never heard the city so quiet before. And there was at least two cops on every corner.

But what these protesters are doing? I'm just ashamed that they're part of the human race. There's talk that they're going to continue this into the night.
 
Gusto

Gusto

Yeah it's pretty fucking shameful.

At what point are they no longer protesters? They're acting like fucking terrorists.
 
checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Yeah its a pain in the ass. My friend and I had plans for the weekend that involved meeting at Union station, but Union has been completely shut down. Which also means another friend of mine is now TRAPPED in Toronto with no way to get home.

My dad's part of the security there. They had to get special refresher courses in anti-terrorism as well as how to deal with "crowd decontamination". He said the weirdest thing they had to train for were these types of protesters who coated themselves with fecal matter, and would threw that around. Apparently they showed up today. My dad is earning his overtime, I'd say.
 
ThatGrinningIdiot!

ThatGrinningIdiot!

My friend is in the Canadian armed forces, he's part of the security personnel for the summit. I hope this "protest" dissolves soon, he's supposed to have some time off for Canada's day.
 
Espy

Espy

Man, these guys are just doing what they gotta do to make the world a better place.


Clearly that means a trashcan through a McDonalds window. It's the only way.
 
Rob King

Rob King

I did not expect this at all. What are they rioting about? What do they have to be that angry about? I could understand if there was some clear agenda, maybe, but right now it just looks like anarchy for anarchy's sake.

I'm quite honestly horrified, and unspeakably embarrassed for the entire damn situation, and I couldn't even really be any farther away from it.
 
checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Rob King said:
I did not expect this at all. What are they rioting about? What do they have to be that angry about? I could understand if there was some clear agenda, maybe, but right now it just looks like anarchy for anarchy's sake.

I'm quite honestly horrified, and unspeakably embarrassed for the entire damn situation, and I couldn't even really be any farther away from it.
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The violence IS anarchy for anarchy's sake. The actual protesters are protesting peacefully, for all kinds of different reasons. These assholes are just that; assholes.
 
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Matt²

...isn't the G20 almost ALWAYS accompanied by such madness? I seem to remember it happening regularly with the G20 summits..
 
Gusto

Gusto

It never should have been in Toronto. Pick someplace up in the territories that no one's ever heard of and see how many assholes show up.
 
Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

THe thing with riot dynamic is that it's usually NOT about what caused the original protest. In this case, I believe it was crowds of "Black Shirt Anarchists," whom intel informs are dedicated to messing with thos ein authority at every possible opportunity. They take advantage of situations like Toronto when people are already agitated, and provide the spark to hopefully cause folks to explode into violence from pent-up anger. They are, ironically, quite well organised and well-versed in counter-police tactics.

As a riot-control officer, we get briefings on events like what's happened in Toronto. It'll be interesting to see what results from this...

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Matt² said:
...isn't the G20 almost ALWAYS accompanied by such madness? I seem to remember it happening regularly with the G20 summits..
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When they had the G-8 here in Savannah back in '04, it was shortly after the WTO riots in Seattle. They weren't messing around: they called in literally hundreds of extra officers to help enforce the area. Oddly enough, nothing happened.

"Don't mess around with them down South... they'll HURT you. They're not like the liberally-overseen officers in Washington..."
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

What I think is most ironic is these so called anarchist groups cry about their rights when it goes against their plans. You can't praise anarchy and then bitch about your rights being violated the next.
 
Frank

Frank

Officer_Charon said:
THe thing with riot dynamic is that it's usually NOT about what caused the original protest. In this case, I believe it was crowds of "Black Shirt Anarchists," whom intel informs are dedicated to messing with thos ein authority at every possible opportunity. They take advantage of situations like Toronto when people are already agitated, and provide the spark to hopefully cause folks to explode into violence from pent-up anger. They are, ironically, quite well organised and well-versed in counter-police tactics.

As a riot-control officer, we get briefings on events like what's happened in Toronto. It'll be interesting to see what results from this...
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I do not envy you that position sir.
 
checkeredhat

checkeredhat

ThatNickGuy said:
What I think is most ironic is these so called anarchist groups cry about their rights when it goes against their plans. You can't praise anarchy and then bitch about your rights being violated the next.
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While definitely hypocritical, I still think they should have those rights., so in a messed up way they have a point there.

You also can't be an anarchist if you're following an established system (like the black bloc) and wearing a uniform, as these prats do.
 
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Dusty668

Espy said:
Man, these guys are just doing what they gotta do to make the world a better place.


Clearly that means a trashcan through a McDonalds window. It's the only way.
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Dangit, I can't make it fit into twitter and still have the same punch.
 
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Element 117

Espy said:
It's hard to fit my genius into twitter. Very true.
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Canadian rioters are just trying to make the world a better place. That means a trashcan through a McDonalds window. It's the only way.

135 characters.
 
Jay

Jay

I doubt most of these people are even Canadians. These are just people rioting for the sake of rioting. Pretty pathetic honestly.
 
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Dusty668

Well when they check for ID's they can send the furriners back to Arizona.
 
IronBrig4

IronBrig4

Unfortunately, these kinds of events tend to attract people with, well, authority issues. Just because they have dreadlocks and a dirty Che Guevera t-shirt doesn't make them Nelson Mandela.
 
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crono1224

checkeredhat;405905][QUOTE=ThatNickGuy said:
What I think is most ironic is these so called anarchist groups cry about their rights when it goes against their plans. You can't praise anarchy and then bitch about your rights being violated the next.
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While definitely hypocritical, I still think they should have those rights., so in a messed up way they have a point there.

You also can't be an anarchist if you're following an established system (like the black bloc) and wearing a uniform, as these prats do.[/QUOTE]

You can't be a non-conformist if you don't drink coffee. (In the general same vain I feel).

Also it's the catch-22 that exist everywhere, basically freedom until someone bigger and badder starts harassing you, then its 'rights' and 'protections'.
 
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Dusty668

What was that bit about real anarchy is being beat up in the 6th grade forever cause that's what anarchy really is, the big taking time to wail on the weak. Forever.
 
Troll

Troll

We have problems with these same dicks here in the SF Bay Area. Any time there's any controversy involving police, politics, or the universities we get punks showing up en masse to riot. As other people pointed out, these assholes just look for excuses to riot and cause trouble.

A few weeks ago a group trashed a bunch of businesses in downtown Berkeley when people were protesting peacefully about UC Berkeley funding cuts. When one was asked why they smashed up a Subway restaurant, he responded with something like "because there's another one nearby, so no one would miss it." Makes perfect fucking sense.
 
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crono1224

I don't think they give any thought to rioting, and I bet dollars to donuts they don't consider the ramifications of what they are doing.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Of course they don't, because it's anarchy and THEY'RE HARDCORE! The idea of anarchy in its purest form would essentially be a survival of the fittest, wouldn't it? Law of the jungle and all that? So, if they want to act like animals, let's treat them like animals and put them down.

From what I'm hearing on CBC Radio this morning, about 900 have been arrested, now. The security barriers are coming down. There's some reports of police brutality and unwanted arrests, but honestly, after Saturday, I don't see the police taking any chances.
 
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Chibibar

ThatNickGuy said:
Of course they don't, because it's anarchy and THEY'RE HARDCORE! The idea of anarchy in its purest form would essentially be a survival of the fittest, wouldn't it? Law of the jungle and all that? So, if they want to act like animals, let's treat them like animals and put them down.

From what I'm hearing on CBC Radio this morning, about 900 have been arrested, now. The security barriers are coming down. There's some reports of police brutality and unwanted arrests, but honestly, after Saturday, I don't see the police taking any chances.
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Well it is a riot. Most riot are usually violent :( I personally don't understand why they do it. survival of the fittest? that is kinda weird mentality. The rioters have what? sticks and stone and mollies? while the police has bean bag guns, riot shields, armors, and live ammo??
 
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Chazwozel

I keep reading the thread as Riots in Downtown Tokyo, and it's pissing me off!
 
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