A Thread For Bold Claims
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It's a fucking clip show
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It's a fucking clip show[/QUOTE]
The character witness segment (the supposed clip show part) goes for about 11 minutes, out of a 55 minute finale. Of the eighteen character witnesses shown, only eight had clips played, lasting a total of less than three minutes. That's right, less than three minutes of the supposed clip show were clips.
I love that they spent the first half of the finale mocking the ridiculous speculation about how the show would end, as well as poking fun at finales in general. Is it going to be about them finally making their TV show? Are they going to do the "international vacation episode" that so many other sitcoms do? Are they all going to die in a fiery wreck? Are Elaine and Jerry finally going to get back together? It was basically mocking the audience, which some people took exception to, but I found it hilarious.
Then it spent the second half pointing out that the main characters have been enormous assholes for the entire series. At the time the finale aired, this was actually the most common complaint about it. Apparently the average idiot viewer either didn't realise, or didn't like the idea that he'd been watching a show about four pretty horrible people (see: the reaction to The Invitations).
That sums up most of the main complaints about the finale, and most of them are complete bullshit. I'm not saying it was the greatest episode of the series or anything, but it was a solid episode, and it bugs me that it gets such a bad rap.
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Mark Hamill is not the best joker.
(i'm too lazy to check if anyone said this.)
(i'm too lazy to check if anyone said this.)
Are you saying the only good Joker is a dead Joker?
(sorry, I couldn't resist...)
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Nope.
past portrayals have elements of a 'great' joker but none has gotten everything absolutely correct.
I find hamill's voice for it too... animated, which perfectly suits the medium for which he started doing the voice for but not which I think suits the overall character.
past portrayals have elements of a 'great' joker but none has gotten everything absolutely correct.
I find hamill's voice for it too... animated, which perfectly suits the medium for which he started doing the voice for but not which I think suits the overall character.
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On that note...
I found Ledger/Nolan's Joker a boring portrayal.
He wasn't a Joker. There was no mirth, humor, or punchline. He was a nihilistic sociopath straight from any action or thriller movie from the 1990s. He smelled like the 90s. The only thing that distinguished him as the Joker from those cats was the makeup.
I found Ledger/Nolan's Joker a boring portrayal.
He wasn't a Joker. There was no mirth, humor, or punchline. He was a nihilistic sociopath straight from any action or thriller movie from the 1990s. He smelled like the 90s. The only thing that distinguished him as the Joker from those cats was the makeup.
He did have the pencil joke. I laughed and felt horrified from laughing at the same time, and I feel that's perfect for the joker!
Nolan's Joker had tons of black humor jokes. Making the three thugs fight to the death, the bomb inside the scitzophrenic person, telling Batman the wrong addresses, the nurse's outfit, the boat bombs set-up.
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Those weren't jokes. They were mind games. Also something every 90s sociopath villain did.
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I'm not saying it was a bad movie or a bad portrayal. I enjoyed the movie. I just didn't think he was the Joker. I'm not saying that to be contrary, I'm saying it because he didn't groove with the Joker image, which while a little mercurial over the decades, always had the batshit-loopy-finding death and destruction funny element to it. Ledger felt more like a goth dude.
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I'm not saying it was a bad movie or a bad portrayal. I enjoyed the movie. I just didn't think he was the Joker. I'm not saying that to be contrary, I'm saying it because he didn't groove with the Joker image, which while a little mercurial over the decades, always had the batshit-loopy-finding death and destruction funny element to it. Ledger felt more like a goth dude.
I concur.
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Everyone else's opinion sucks.
going meta here.
going meta here.
I'll go with conflicting message:
All claims that I make are specious.
All claims that I make are specious.
Smooth Criminal is the most awesome music video ever produced.
Shannow
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this is true, and the replies to this statement made me die a little on the inside.
Smooth Criminal is the most awesome music video ever produced.[/QUOTE]
Smooth Criminal isn't even MJ's best video, child please
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Ballad of Serenity is a horrible song
figmentPez
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Chex Quest is one of the best advergames ever made
A hearty agreement on both counts!
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I watched Robin Hood prince of Thieves for the first time since it was new last night on BBC-A.
A) It was pretty bad. Overloud, bland music. Odd echo insertions. Tired, boring shot framing. Really? The most dramatic shot you can do for a quarterstaff fight on rushing water is a wide shot? Bleh.
B) Kevin Costner literally sounded like he was reading every line. It was like watching an audiobook.
A) It was pretty bad. Overloud, bland music. Odd echo insertions. Tired, boring shot framing. Really? The most dramatic shot you can do for a quarterstaff fight on rushing water is a wide shot? Bleh.
B) Kevin Costner literally sounded like he was reading every line. It was like watching an audiobook.
A) Is that a bold claim? That movie is pretty much widely regarded as a huge pile of shit.
B) "Fuck me, he cleared it!"
B) "Fuck me, he cleared it!"
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