[TV] The Walking Dead

I think we actually agree on something for once. She annoys the hell out of me. Like we're supposed to feel bad for her because she went through the same damned experience everyone else in the cast did.



Didn't they do that scene in the show last season, too?
They did. I had forgotten about her husband. That kind of explains her uselessness a bit. I forgot she had been abused for so long and is just now starting to have to live on her own.
 
Rating are down

Halloween weekend saw ratings for AMC's "The Walking Dead" edge down again.

The zombie hit delivered 6.1 million viewers for its 9 p.m. airing, off 9 percent from last week (which was down 8 percent from the show's second season premiere). Together with its repeat, "TWD" tallied 8.3 million.

We're still in normal post-premiere ratings dip territory for the show, which was renewed for a third season last week. Some fans have been getting annoyed with all the angst and speeches, but the ending of Sunday's episode ... that must have woke you up, huh? What do you think of "TWD" so far?

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/02/showbiz/tv/walking-dead-ratings-dip-ew/index.html
 
That's nothing. Ratings would be down no matter what. Some people just tuned into the premiere because they heard other people talking about it, and now those people have gone back to doing whatever it was they watched before.
 
That's nothing. Ratings would be down no matter what. Some people just tuned into the premiere because they heard other people talking about it, and now those people have gone back to doing whatever it was they watched before.
Basically this. Some people came in expecting this to be 28 Days Later or the Dawn of the Dead remake. These people don't normally watch AMC and thus had no idea what to expect. Besides, it's still pulling in a huge share for it's time slot...
 
Basically this. Some people came in expecting this to be 28 Days Later or the Dawn of the Dead remake. These people don't normally watch AMC and thus had no idea what to expect. Besides, it's still pulling in a huge share for it's time slot...
Not just the time slot, but also the timeslot for AMC. They've got to be through the roof with these numbers.
 
I am a stalwart defender of this series and even now, while I enjoy the show immensely, it's time to move on. A missing girl shouldn't take half a season unless the show is about missing children. I recognize that it's a bit more complex than that and we're getting strong character development, arcs for Lori, Share and Daryl, but honest to freaking god - there's only 3 episodes left before the hiatus!
 
I'll be crude and say... is this show about zombies or who's hooking up?

My opinion.... great intro from Shane... had shivers up my spine. Love the intro music... fits in nicely as always... then I watch everyone sitting on their collective asses. Seriously, an hour of BLA BLA BLA. Carl starts to feel better, Women who whines wants to be a badass, Old woman tears, Darryl become a bigger bitch by the episode, "Oh please Sir can we stay, I'm a good guy", "Let's go to the town on HORSES, talking all the way and while we're there, random hookup", "the girl who killed season 2 has not showed up yet".

SUDDENLY... one zombie shows up and NO ONE ASKS WHY AND HOW IT FELL IN THE WELL FROM NOWHERE. Nevermind the fact it looks like a Boomer! I watch them find an interesting way of trying to get it out, got exciting for a little while, and the fail exit/ending was best part of show beyond Shane's intro.

Suddenly more Desperate Housewives.... Lori asks Glenn to get a special special something.... and I facepalmed immediately and state out loud "She's preggers, FFS, why can't this show be about zombies and surviving?"

Secrets! Must get the women viewers to keep watching I assume.

BAH

I'm not asking for action packed season and I appreciate a certain slowdown in some episodes... but it's been a few episodes now... and the Jay thinks the the budget cuts are quite evident... maybe will be bold enough to say... jumping the shark?

There's what? 10 episodes? Half the season is almost done. Are you happy where they are at at this point and time? Happy with what was done this far? I clearly see a loss of quality in the show the last 2 episodes.
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DARRYL GAVE FLOWERS FFS
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Also... things I noticed....

They keep all the lights on at night... why? Where is the power coming from? Don't zombies see this? They sit and/or wander around outside with no weapons... heck they aren't even trying to watch out for zombies at all. Also why did the old man tell Rick they don't allow guns on the property yet Otis seemed went hunting around the property with a weapon? Why do they have bloated corpses in their wells? None of it makes any sense to me.

Furthermore, there's no dogs on this farm? This would be a first for me. Or did Otis accidentally shoot them all as well?
 

BananaHands

Staff member
I'm putting this show in the "watch through it after the season has ended" category. It should feel insulted for being in the same time slot as Boardwalk Empire.
 
Darryl lost some SERIOUS points with me in this one. They're building him up WAY too "perfect to please everyone" for my taste.
 
This episode disappointed me. Honestly I can't even remember half of it. While I appreciate Glenn getting to be the badass of the episode, everything else just kind of....meh.

There was really no progression other than Glenn getting some and Lori peeing on a stick. Carl is still getting better, Sofia is still missing, whats her name is still acting like she's the only one having a tough time these days.

I feel like Linus waiting for the great pumpkin when I say this...but I think next week should be better! The previews had Merryl in them...I think. THINGS MIGHT PICK UP GUYS... seriously...I hope....kinda...

I wonder if hell on wheels will be good.
 
I thought the story Darryl told was interesting, not because they're trying to make him a sensitive guy deep down as some people have claimed, but because it gives him some more backstory, suggesting he might have a partial Cherokee background.
 
See, I actually liked this episode. We got more character development and we got hints at the barn. Oh, the barn. Trust me, folks, that's gonna be interesting. Not to mention that we've got two very oppossing viewpoints on zombies between Rick and Herschal that's been building up from the beginning. I get the feeling that's gonna come to a head next week. Like Phil said, things are gonna pick up.

Here's the thing about Walking Dead that they're honestly doing very similar to the comic: false sense of security with a lot of character development and minimal zombies until wham. Something really bad happens. It happened last season, with the campfire incident, and also at the CDC.

Also, I'm calling it now: Merl's appearance will be a flashback or a hallucination by Darryl.
 
They keep all the lights on at night... why? Where is the power coming from? Don't zombies see this? They sit and/or wander around outside with no weapons... heck they aren't even trying to watch out for zombies at all. Also why did the old man tell Rick they don't allow guns on the property yet Otis seemed went hunting around the property with a weapon? Why do they have bloated corpses in their wells? None of it makes any sense to me.

Furthermore, there's no dogs on this farm? This would be a first for me. Or did Otis accidentally shoot them all as well?
1.) Lights might be on to attract Sophia. When yours is the only lit building for miles, it does attract all sorts of things. Besides, it's already been established that Zombies can't see well... they mainly use sound and smell to identify each other. If they could see well, the zombie camouflage in Season 1 would have never worked. So lights probably aren't an issue unless the zombies are up close. Still a waste of gas though.

2.) They don't need weapons while around the house. Property is surrounded by a fence. Maggie even asked Glenn and Dale if they closed the gate when they drove to the house. Even then they live out in the middle of nowhere... it's highly unlikely there were all that many people close by to begin with.

3.) Otis was clearly going off the property to hunt for food. He probably mentioned looking for food to Herschal, so he was probably cool with the gun because it was actually needed. Then again, Herschal might be freaking out now that Carl was shot.

As for the bloated corpse... my best guess is it wandered onto the property (how'd it get through the fence?) or was a neighbor who went missing. The broken boards in the water indicate that it simply walked on the boards and they broke. Any other speculation would involve potential spoilers.

On a side note... did anyone else think "BOOMER!" when they saw the bloated one in the well? Especially after it burst?
 
Is anybody else wondering how Otis managed to stay fat in a zombie apocalypse?
It's only been a few weeks since it started, tops. Rick wouldn't have survived long without water while he was in the hospital and Lori would known something was up with her long before now.
 
Latest episode was a bit slow, but I'm still not really getting the complaints I'm hearing in here.
I see complaining about there not being enough Zombies in this show akin to complaining that The Good the Bad and the Ugly doesn't focus enough on the Civil War. Its the setting, its not the subject matter.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Latest episode was a bit slow, but I'm still not really getting the complaints I'm hearing in here.
I see complaining about there not being enough Zombies in this show akin to complaining that The Good the Bad and the Ugly doesn't focus enough on the Civil War. Its the setting, its not the subject matter.
From the outsider layperson's viewpoint, I'll just say - "The show's called Walking Dead. Not Love in the Land of Zombies. What if you tuned into the new Battlestar Galactica for the first time in the middle of the second season and saw it was about unicorns and submarines? Is the desperate flight from destruction at the hands of the Cylons just a backdrop?"

Anyway, it's moot... if you like it you like it... I gave it a shot, I can now move on confident that I am not missing something I'd regret missing.
 
This was the first episode I've caught of this show.

I was disappoint.
If you tuned in to BSG in the middle of the second or third season I feel comfortable saying you would probably never watch it again. Same with most shows that follow a tight narrative like MAd Men or Breaking Bad or the Wire. Judging a show like this on a mid-season episode 2 seasons in a mistake.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
If you tuned in to BSG in the middle of the second or third season I feel comfortable saying you would probably never watch it again. Same with most shows that follow a tight narrative like MAd Men or Breaking Bad or the Wire. Judging a show like this on a mid-season episode 2 seasons in a mistake.
I'll tell you this much - I didn't check out Babylon 5 for the first time until the middle of season 3, and then I was goddamn hooked instantly.
 
The exception is not the rule.

But it could just be that a show like The Walking Dead is not for you.
 
The premise of The Walking Dead are the character relationships. It is pretty much a drama show with zombies. But this is not far of from the comic books. The core of the story in both media forms are the relationships between the survivors with zombies in the background.
 

BananaHands

Staff member
I wouldn't watch a show that stretched a little girl being lost in the woods over several episodes, zombies or not.
 
I will say that the TV show is definitely following the style of the comics. And the complaints from the comic book readers mirror those I'm reading here. Problem is it's a different medium and a different audience. I wouldn't complain so much about how slowly the TV show is moving if it wasn't only a 10 episode season. A full 23 episode season I'd be more comfortable with a 5 episode arc at the farm. When half the season is spent in one place rehashing the same plotline under the guise of 'character development', that's a bit much. I blame AMC for this, not the writers or the directors though.
 
Are we so used to TV wrapping stories up in an episode or two that we are disappointed when something plays out a little more realistically?

I don't have a problem with the fact that the main characters haven't found Sofia yet and I am not sure I understand why folks are so upset that there hasn't been a resolution to that yet. In the real world, kids go missing and no-one ever finds them. Is it so far to reach that a kid could go missing during a zombie apocalypse and never be found? The characters looking for her wouldn't stop but she may never be found, or she may show up as a corpse, or a walker.

I think the show has done a good job of presenting why the search would be difficult in the last episode when Herschel shows Rick the expansive forest and the fact that the creek they were following splits. The house that Daryl found seems to suggest that she found shelter for a short while but even that could be anything given the circumstances. It's not as if the characters simply forgot she was lost and stopped looking so it's a plot-line that isn't moving forward. They have progressed the story related to her a little every episode while still moving other plots forward; Carl being shot and the effort to save him, Shane becoming more dark, Daryl becoming his own character instead of just Merle's brother, the introduction of new characters at the farm, etc.

I understand it's an unresolved plotline but for crying out load, the whole series Lost was an unresolved plotline and it lasted 4 or 5 seasons.

I am still loving the show, the writing, and most of the performances (Andrea is really wearing on me, not crazy about the changes to her character at all) and I will still be tuning in each week to find out what happens.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Lost was shit. Also, in entertainment, there's this critical, critical thing called "timing." You deliver the resolution too soon, it doesn't feel fleshed out. You string it along too long, it gets irritating. There's 23 hours a day of snoring, peeing and doing nothing in particular that doesn't get shown in your average TV show as well - and there's a reason for it.

But I might be off base here, seeing as how I only watched one episode. I'm mostly going off what my friend said about the missing kid story arc here while we watched it.
 
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