Not off topic. You told him he was moving into middle age.JCM said:Offtopic insistence fail?Chaz said:
Congrats on the car, if what you´ve said about all your studying is true, you deserve it.
Catholic sex guide!
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Dude, seriously, you need to take English 101.JCM said:I must agree with this 100%... I wouldnt change sex in a relationship for various sex partners ever... while the hunt is fun, there´s nothing like the closeness and familiarity of someone you love.Espy said:
Offtopic insistence fail?Chaz said:
Congrats on the car, if what you´ve said about all your studying is true, you deserve it.
It's not an off-topic statement if it's a play on an existing subject. You said mid-life crisis. What do people usually buy when they're having a mid-life crisis? A sports car. :blargh: Fucking retard.
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See, he was able to comprehend it!Edrondol said:Not off topic. You told him he was moving into middle age.JCM said:Offtopic insistence fail?Chaz said:
Congrats on the car, if what you´ve said about all your studying is true, you deserve it.
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Says Mr "I cant relate question to thread", but hey, your nerd rages do keep me entertained.
OP: Priest guide to sex
Thread: countless Anyone who takes sex advice from a priest must have a very poor sex life indeed and Taking driving lessons from the Amish!
Chaz: Getting panties in bunch and whining about learning to read.
Thread: 10 posts on how Chaz isnt making sense.
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OP: Priest guide to sex
Thread: countless Anyone who takes sex advice from a priest must have a very poor sex life indeed and Taking driving lessons from the Amish!
Chaz: Getting panties in bunch and whining about learning to read.
Thread: 10 posts on how Chaz isnt making sense.
JCM: bait
While talking about the subject at hand and replying to lame ad-homins? :slywink: But hey, he entertains me, brb.Edrondol said:Not off topic. You told him he was moving into middle age.JCM said:I must agree with this 100%... I wouldnt change sex in a relationship for various sex partners ever... while the hunt is fun, there´s nothing like the closeness and familiarity of someone you love.Espy said:
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Congrats on the car, if what you´ve said about all your studying is true, you deserve it.
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Time to spoon feed the moron.
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Guess not making it beyond your contry and one language does make a drama llama unable to understand a "joke",
or unable to read page 1? Jesus. learn to read my good man, but since you rely on "Karate for dummies", here is-
The 1st pages of the thread for dummies (or in this case, angerllama)
Now is this where you say the whole forum is full of idiots and quit it again, or where you say that we´re all nerds and should learn to be a priest the hard way?
Suggestion, since you cant get past English, do learn it, and read the thread.
or unable to read page 1? Jesus. learn to read my good man, but since you rely on "Karate for dummies", here is-
The 1st pages of the thread for dummies (or in this case, angerllama)
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Now is this where you say the whole forum is full of idiots and quit it again, or where you say that we´re all nerds and should learn to be a priest the hard way?
Suggestion, since you cant get past English, do learn it, and read the thread.
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so what I learn from this Thread. (I was born Catholic but no longer one in my mind since I practice other beliefs)
A Catholic Priest wrote a book on how to have good sex.
A Catholic Priest are not allow to marry
Having sex outside of marriage is a sin.
Having sex with someone else when you are marry is a sin.
NOT having sex with your married partner is a sin.
What we infer so far from not having read this book.
The priest could be getting information from married couples
The priest could be using from past experience and hopefully he was married at the time (or it would have been a sin) but I guess he would be divorce now since he is a priest? (what is the rule on that?)
having different type of sex within the married couple is ok (other than missionary, blow jobs, anal, cosplay, BSDM etc etc)
Having sex during a "none fertile" time to space out child producing is ok. (i.e. don't have sex while the woman is on her more fertile time)
did I miss anything so far?
A Catholic Priest wrote a book on how to have good sex.
A Catholic Priest are not allow to marry
Having sex outside of marriage is a sin.
Having sex with someone else when you are marry is a sin.
NOT having sex with your married partner is a sin.
What we infer so far from not having read this book.
The priest could be getting information from married couples
The priest could be using from past experience and hopefully he was married at the time (or it would have been a sin) but I guess he would be divorce now since he is a priest? (what is the rule on that?)
having different type of sex within the married couple is ok (other than missionary, blow jobs, anal, cosplay, BSDM etc etc)
Having sex during a "none fertile" time to space out child producing is ok. (i.e. don't have sex while the woman is on her more fertile time)
did I miss anything so far?
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Hey, it's not a problem to have sinners becoming priests. What WOULD be a problem is for a divorced man to become a priest, since there's no such thing inside the Church (as I said, there are nullifications, but those are somehow complex...).Chibibar said:
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Ok. So a priest could have sex outside of marriage and use that information in his book, and it will be ok, but as long he was not married and divorce later on (since priest can't be married right?) would not be ok or even allowed. (unless the priest nullified the marriage)zero said:
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We do have the problem of that being adultery, and correct me if I am wrong, but arent catholic priests supposed not to marry, as that is the case here in Brazil.Chibibar said:
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Well I was trying to guess where the priest could get information from. I presume the priest would have repent if he had sex before marriage and then became a priest (since sinners can become priest) but divorce in Catholics is a no-no. Since priests are not allow to marry and you can't have sex outside of marriage (especially as a priest even after you repent) the information he use in the book could be from past experience AND advice from married couples (since I would assume a Catholic priest would not use information from sinners, i.e. people who have sex outside of marriage or adultery.JCM said:
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I think he meant "a guy could have sex without being married then afterward join the Church". If that's the case Chibi, you are correct. In fact, I knew personally a priest whose history was precisely that.JCM said:
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^-- This. My assumption that if the priest use personal experience, it would be this.zero said:
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That was the case I´d questioned a page back.Chibibar said:
Lets hope that this is the case for the aforementioned priest?
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only if the *insert religious leader of choice* use the proper research. What if this person never had sex, and never use his congregation's opinion and wrote what he think people should do, would you follow it if you were in his congregation?Espy said:
If the sum of his information is "Hey! Married couples! Have sex, it's not against the rules of this religions! Have fun with it and here is some advice from my years of working with married couples" then why the hell would you have a problem with it?Chibibar said:
Seriously, you guys are really reading way to much into what seems like a really positive thing overall. Keep in mind, I'm not saying his advice is "good" advice, I don't really care. There are a billion "therepists" out there with differing views, this is just one of many. What we do have is someone saying "Hey, religious people, lighten up about sex! Have it! Enjoy it!" and you guys freak out over that? Considering how much time some people here spend bashing religions as "uptight" I would think you would applaud this sort of thing.
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My defense for questioning it is that, if this guy is legit (i.e. not sinning while being a priest) then "yay! it is all good" but if he is sinning (i.e. research via having sex himself) then it would invalidate the writing and people would shun his work and thus have negative effect. I am trying to ensure that the research are within the Catholic teaching and thus we all can go "yay!! we have as much sex and type of sex as long we are married"Espy said:
There are so many weird things in this paragraph I don't even know where to start. Firstly: Why on earth do you care so much about something that matter so little to you? Are you Catholic and your church has said you have to read this book (which could be the case, I don't know if you are or not)? Secondly: How exactly do you plan to find out if he is:"having sex himself". On second thought... I don't even want to know that...Chibibar said:
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Born Catholic. I guess I am one those "fallen" people. I still follow some basic belief (the core if you will) so I hate to see bad things happen to any religion where the core is good but the execution of it all (lead by other people) turn bad. My current belief is that all religion has a good base core belief that is similar to other belief. It is the people's interpretation and complication muck it all up. So in a way, it is semi personal to me since it ties to my father's root (who passed away and was a Catholic)Espy said:There are so many weird things in this paragraph I don't even know where to start. Firstly: Why on earth do you care so much about something that matter so little to you? Are you Catholic and your church has said you have to read this book? Secondly: How exactly do you plan to find out if he is:"having sex himself". On second thought... I don't even want to know that...Chibibar said:
If it was anything else like Hindu or Mormon, I wouldn't have care as much personally (since I have not studied them in extend or influence by them.)
as for the 2nd, I don't want to discover it myself regard how is the research is done, but I'm sure someone will go into this more than I.
Fair enough, but again, taken at face value, how is this book "bad"? You say you see all the "bad" stuff people do in your former religion (and I'm not denying that mind you) and so again, I ask, "How is a religious leader trying to encourage the believers of their faith to have better relationships and sex lives" bad? You talk about research, and he says it's from his time working with married couples and such. He's not saying he has all the answers to everything on earth just that he wants to see married couples have freedom to enjoy their sex lives? And that's automatically a "bad" thing if he wasn't the one having sex? I do not follow this logic at all.Chibibar said:
They probably won't. Because it's not a big deal. Unless he's offering some HORRIBLE advice that will destroy people's lives (and I really doubt even anyone here thinks this is more than basic "love each other a ton and have sex and don't be afraid to enjoy things outside of missionary position") then it really doesn't matter very much.Chibibar said:
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I beg you pardon? Who is freaking out here? I'm afraid you missed completely the point...Espy said:
Here, lemme show you, check this thread, or no, even better, that one.
Far from being exceptions, those threads exemplify the essence of what happens around here. In fact, I'm surprised by your reaction Espy... Really, you see a thread about something seemly trivial, bearing almost no real significance to anyone's life, see everybody jumping at an intense discussion about it and you ask yourself why?
BECAUSE WE ARE FRIGGIN' BORED
really, it's surprising one need to actually say it...
Actually I was finding Chibi's and Espy's conversation interesting because somehow I agree with both of them.
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Well indeed you are! It is revolting how someone can be so up in arms about how people get up in arm about... erm... where were we again?Espy said:
Seriously... no hard feelings here (unless you're questioning Chaz x JCM, but I suppose you know better)... In fact, I do find this discussion to be quite civil, by halforum standards...
No hard feelings at all, in fact, my initial reaction upon glancing over the thread was, "Why the hell is a priest writing a book about this". Then I read the story and it sounds like people are getting upset by him doing something that is actually really good. Encouraging married couples to have better sex lives and even going into they theological reasoning for it, which is a great thing to give to religious people.
Of course, I'm totally open to his advice being HORRIBLE. After all, he's Polish. :tongue:
Of course, I'm totally open to his advice being HORRIBLE. After all, he's Polish. :tongue:
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I don't think the advice is horrible. I am afraid if he also use personal experience while being a priest would invalidate his claim and thus people would go "Can't believe what this sinner priest say... bad bad bad." even if the original message is good.Espy said:
Personally I think it would be great if this is accepted world wide. I remember that some people was saying other sex other than missionary is sinful (and thus there was sodomy laws)
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I gotta agree with espy. Excuse the bad analogy but does a therapist have to be mentally ill to treat a patient? Does a marriage counselor have to go through a divorce to see couples? I mean that's in the same vein isn't it. His book is simply counseling couples who might be having issues. I doubt the book goes into detail on how to do double-reverse cowgirl while hanging upside down from a tree.
Okay, I see that that is your concern, and I agree, that would be bad, but I just don't see anything to justify having that concern other than "What if?".Chibibar said:
I guess I don't see anything suspicious about his sources.
Thanks Chaz, I just don't see what all the hubbub is about. I can study how cats have sex without having sex with a cat can't I? Not that I would study that... that would be REALLY weird... in fact? Forget I said it.
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heh.. this reminds me a scene from Firefly about Early. "I think doctors should be shot to know how it feels of being shot"Chazwozel said:
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