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GasBandit

GasBandit

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Hey fellow 90s teens, guess who's back?!


Marvel's newest comic book teaser art for their big summer event series is appealing directly to 90's Kid Nostalgia. X-Men 92 appears to be a continuation of the popular 90's comic and cartoon series. With a lineup featuring Cyclops, Jean Grey, Wolverine, Jubilee, Gambit, Rogue, Storm and Beast, this version of the X-Men might be their most iconic.



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GasBandit

GasBandit

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I always wondered why Wolverine's title card depicts a tropical jungle, when Logan himself comes from Canada, and the animal he's named after is definitely from boreal forests of northern latitudes.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I must be one of the few people that wasn't a fan of the 90s X-Men cartoon (or Spider-Man). The look all felt too glossy and over-designed (then again, it WAS based on Jim Lee's work) and the voice acting was more miss than hit. I liked it well enough back in the day, but never went gaga over it. Like the Spider-Man cartoon, it sure as hell hasn't aged well. Not like DC's toons from back then.

It likely doesn't help that I'm not a big X-Men fan in general.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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ThatNickGuy said:
I must be one of the few people that wasn't a fan of the 90s X-Men cartoon (or Spider-Man). The look all felt too glossy and over-designed (then again, it WAS based on Jim Lee's work) and the voice acting was more miss than hit. I liked it well enough back in the day, but never went gaga over it. Like the Spider-Man cartoon, it sure as hell hasn't aged well. Not like DC's toons from back then.

It likely doesn't help that I'm not a big X-Men fan in general.
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That was a lot of non-comic reader kids' first exposure to X-Men. I was never really that big into comics as a kid until I saw the X-Men '92 saturday morning cartoons. After that, I started getting into comics.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

GasBandit said:
That was a lot of non-comic reader kids' first exposure to X-Men. I was never really that big into comics as a kid until I saw the X-Men '92 saturday morning cartoons. After that, I started getting into comics.
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Sure, that's okay. I get that. I think the same applies for the Batman cartoon at the time, too. Doesn't change the fact that it's overly glossy and over-designed, especially in comparison to Batman's more reductive design style.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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ThatNickGuy said:
Sure, that's okay. I get that. I think the same applies for the Batman cartoon at the time, too. Doesn't change the fact that it's overly glossy and over-designed, especially in comparison to Batman's more reductive design style.
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That's a valid opinion from someone who was familiar with the comics before the show.

But lots of us had our expectations set by the show, and some even found the comics a little flat because of it.

Also, awesome as it was, Batman TAS didn't get me into DC comics how X-Men '92 got me into Marvel. I think the only DC book I had was the complete Sandman Chronicles graphic novel, which was a gift - I wouldn't have bought it for myself (though I did enjoy reading it once it was given to me).
 
Bowielee

Bowielee

I hated the Spider-man cartoon from that era. The animation for both that series and X-Men was absolutely horrible and Spider-Man was horribly written. The only reason that I gave the X-Men cartoon a pass was because it was slightly better written and paced. Th pacing in Spider-Man was just horrible.[DOUBLEPOST=1415139465,1415139364][/DOUBLEPOST]That being said, it did give us the definitive animated voice for Wolverine. Steven Blum is as perfect for Wolverine as Kevin Conroy is for Batman.
 
Covar

Covar

The Marvel cartoons of the 90s didn't age well on pretty much every level.

The plots certainly don't hold up, even with nostalgia lenses. It's about as bad as most 80s cartoons.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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You should try re-watching old GI Joe cartoons sometimes. There is some crazy fucking "What the hell did he just do/say/pull off?" shit going on there. Especially in opening 5-parter "Pyramid of Darkness."

Cobra took over a space station with sonically activated sentient mutating fuzzy critters.

Wut.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Even as a kid I chuckled at the imagined conversation - "We gotta make Alpine look cool somehow in this sequence. What do we do?"

"Could we... could we get him to grappling hook and climb onto a FLYING JET FIGHTER?"

"And then he PUNCHES IT to make it explode!"

And then of course today, I can appreciate how Cobra somehow got their giant flying supercarrier into New York airspace (one of the busiest and most monitored airspaces in the world) unmolested... to launch a paratrooper attack on the statue of liberty. And the Joes KNEW about it.. but INSTEAD of intercepting the carrier enroute... decided they'd HIDE INSIDE the statue and pop out to surprise Cobra after the attack had begun! Not warning any civilians first, though, it'd have ruined the surprise.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Bowielee said:
And where the hell did the bajillion balloons come from?
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Oh, those were launched at the beginning as part of the celebration/spectacle. Clearly this was some kind of 4th of July celebration or something, what with the spotlights and balloons and fireworks displays. If ANYTHING in that video makes sense, it's that it would be taking place on July 4th, because that's when a terrorist organization would get the most mileage out of attacking the Statue of Liberty.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

GasBandit said:
That's a valid opinion from someone who was familiar with the comics before the show..
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None of what I said had anything to do with the comics aside from the Jim Lee remark. Actually, I'm talking about pure visual aesthetic, voice acting, and holding up to the tests of time. Which Batman surpasses in spades.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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ThatNickGuy said:
None of what I said had anything to do with the comics aside from the Jim Lee remark. Actually, I'm talking about pure visual aesthetic, voice acting, and holding up to the tests of time. Which Batman surpasses in spades.
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Batman TAS is definitely a model of what to do right. And for all its attraction to 13 year old me, I will readily admit that the 90s X-Men SMC's defining characteristic is "overwrought," though I mostly mean that in plot and dialog, not just visuals. I liked the visuals. Duh, I was 13, I liked painted-on costumes on hot chicks.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Count me in the group of watched the DC cartoons, read the Marvel comics. Which was still a mistake--bad as the Spider-man cartoon was, it still had better writing than the comic at the time, which was waist-deep in the Clone Saga.
 
Bowielee

Bowielee

Zero Esc said:
Count me in the group of watched the DC cartoons, read the Marvel comics. Which was still a mistake--bad as the Spider-man cartoon was, it still had better writing than the comic at the time, which was waist-deep in the Clone Saga.
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I bounced on Spider-Man before the clone saga really kicked into high gear, and even then I was only occasionally picking up an issue or two every once in a while to check in. I think the storyline that made me give up on it was when Peter's parents came back and turned out to be clone robots or something.
 
Frank

Frank

GasBandit said:
I always wondered why Wolverine's title card depicts a tropical jungle, when Logan himself comes from Canada, and the animal he's named after is definitely from boreal forests of northern latitudes.
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It just looks like trees. We do have summers and non-coniferous trees.
 
filmfanatic

filmfanatic

Marvel has released one more teaser for their 2015 comics.



Please don't pull a New 52, Please don't pull a New 52, Please don't pull a New 52...
 
SpecialKO

SpecialKO

They have been hinting at something big for a while,
with the whole thing about the Multiverse collapsing and the Mapmakers and all that incursion stuff, so at least it won't be introduced all of sudden in a single comic mini-series and while clumsily changing everything else haphazardly like flipping a broken light switch.
 
filmfanatic

filmfanatic

SpecialKO said:
They have been hinting at something big for a while,
with the whole thing about the Multiverse collapsing and the Mapmakers and all that incursion stuff, so at least it won't be introduced all of sudden in a single comic mini-series and while clumsily changing everything else haphazardly like flipping a broken light switch.
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Good point.

Also, this is the first ad of theirs for something in Spring 2015, when all of the other posters have been for Summer 2015. My guess is that we have our Multiverse/time travel critical mass moment in spring, while summer is unwinding the mess with heroes (and villain, in Ultron's case) going through these different moments in time.
 
CynicismKills

CynicismKills

The best thing to come out of 90's X-Men is Cyclops' costume. The condom-hood in every other iteration looks ridiculous, but for some reason as bright and spandex-y as the 90's version is I just think it's great.

Plus, it was used in all the Capcom fighters (along with the 90's toon voices), and he was a fun fighter.
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

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Uhhhh, WUT?

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Marvel planning Attack on Titan crossover

Spoilers for the AoT/SNK manga:
Oddly, this kinda works. Between the intelligent gorilla that I've been told shows up as a villain in Attack on Titan, and the similarities between 3D maneuvering gear and web-slinging, there do seem to be some parallels between AoT and American superhero comics (even if gorilla villains are more of a DC thing).
 
fade

fade

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I liked the 90s X-Men cartoon. It doesn't hold up at all, but I always figured all the over-the-top stuff--from the art down to the ham-fisted acting--was purely intentional. The Spider-Man cartoon on the other hand I didn't care that much for. There were some weird design decisions that hinted that the artists were seriously out of touch with 90s-00s fashion. Mullets, clothing choices, dialogue, etc. Plus Peter looked like he was about 35, and seemed to be modeled not on any comic Peter but rather on the 70s live-action Peter:
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Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

fade said:
I liked the 90s X-Men cartoon. It doesn't hold up at all, but I always figured all the over-the-top stuff--from the art down to the ham-fisted acting--was purely intentional. The Spider-Man cartoon on the other hand I didn't care that much for. There were some weird design decisions that hinted that the artists were seriously out of touch with 90s-00s fashion. Mullets, clothing choices, dialogue, etc. Plus Peter looked like he was about 35, and seemed to be modeled not on any comic Peter but rather on the 70s live-action Peter:
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Maybe they were trying to go for a retro feel like the Batman animated series.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

http://www.themarysue.com/dc-comics-cancels-13-series/

As of March, thirteen DC books are being cancelled. I think that's the largest swath of cancellations in one month that I've seen from either company in a long time. The list includes:

Aquaman and the Others
Infinity Man and the Forever People
Klarion
Secret Origins
Star-Spangled War Stories Featuring G.I. Zombie
Trinity of Sin
Worlds’ Finest
Arkham Manor
Batwoman
Green Lantern Corps
Green Lantern: New Guardians
Red Lanterns
Swamp Thing

Of those, the most surprising to me are the Lantern Books and Swamp Thing. A friend of mine is pissed as hell about Klarion being cancelled (I didn't even know it was a title, but that shows how close I'm following DC these days). Most of the others seem like mercy killings. Batwoman especially, after the kerfuffle with JH Williams.
 
CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Marvel's been doing some odd things lately. Quicksilver/SW are apparently not blood-related to Magneto, Axis has bad guys being good and good guys being bad, and Spider-Verse is just pulling any and every version of Peter they can into a big weird story about immortal vampires killing Spider-powered people.

One thing remains constant, though, every Mutant but (the now dead) Wolverine hates Spider-Man for absolutely no reason.
 
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