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Deus Ex: Human Revolution

#1



Overflight

I haven't played the original Deus Ex much (the closest I got was following a Let's Play that was suddenly aborted around the VersaLife level), so when this prequel was announced, I wasn't very interested. Then all the media showing this futuristic world with cyborgs running around everywhere piqued my interest. Then they released THIS trailer:

Deus Ex: Human Revolution Video Game, Penetrate The Penthouse Gameplay Trailer HD | Video Clip | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com

Guess this should appease all the people dreading this would be dumbed down for consoles. Looks like it will be an awesomely customizable experience. Can't wait!

Anyone else looking forward to this?


#2

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I worked with a couple that used to play the game. And they would mispronounce the name of the game and really confuse the hell out of their coworkers.

"When we get home we are going to play Do Sex."(Deus Ex)


#3



Mountebank

Loved the first game. Gotta say that from the trailer, that looks really clumsy to play.


#4

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I agree Mountebank. I've been stoked for it for a while, being a huge fan of the original, and this looks kinda shitty gameplay-wise.


#5

IronBrig4

IronBrig4

I loved the original. I tried the demo for the sequel but it didn't really strike my fancy. This prequel looks pretty cool.


#6

bhamv3

bhamv3

I wanted so much to love the original, but the aged graphics and the OMGWTFPWN difficulty level forced me to lower my rating to merely "quite like it."

Excellent story though, gotta say.


#7



Chazwozel

sixpackshaker said:
I worked with a couple that used to play the game. And they would mispronounce the name of the game and really confuse the hell out of their coworkers.

"When we get home we are going to play Do Sex."(Deus Ex)
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dey-uh
s eks mah-kuh-nuh


#8

Jay

Jay

Looks pretty decent. Hopefully it'll have a degree of challenge like a lot of these past few RPG/FPS hybrids.


#9

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

bhamv3 said:
I wanted so much to love the original, but the aged graphics and the OMGWTFPWN difficulty level forced me to lower my rating to merely "quite like it."

Excellent story though, gotta say.
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I never thought the game was that hard. Well, maybe the first time I played it, and tried to play it like a shooter. That made it hard.


#10



Overflight

http://uk.ign.com/videos/2011/05/31/deus-ex-human-revolution-revenge-trailer?objectid=907179

Only this series is capable of making you go "Oh shit" at the mention of friggin FEMA.

Also, they should get some better voice actors. We've moved beyond stuff like this:



#11



Overflight

Well, I've recently finished the game and it was pure awesome. I might do a detailed review later. For now, I'll leave you with this:



#12

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Man, the new game has some iffy voice acting in places, but fuck:



#13



Overflight

...yeah, that really isn't the game's finest moment. Why they didn't remove that character or at least change the VA after seeing fans' response to her in the leaked beta is beyond me. Not to mention that there are a couple of other black characters with equally unfortunate voice acting (such as the hostage plant manager). I guess this game does to black people what the original Deus Ex did to Asians.


#14

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

JC Den-ton, in the fresh!


#15

Jay

Jay

Played it last night, it's a very fun game however, even in hard mode, it's too EASY.

Pros:

- Best hacking game ever
- Storyline is solid
- Area based NPCs aren't useless, they say interesting things, they look different from one another.
- Eidos Montreal made this game, Quebecer references ALL OVER THE PLACE (Texas Separists LOL)
- 0451
- Stable, runs amazing at Ultra max settings on my rig.

Cons:

- Inventory system is lacking, I'm a hoarder, I cannot hoard, my 2 weapons takes half of all my slots, ammo takes another 1/4 leaving me to work with fumes unless I upgrade some shit to get the other part of the inventory. I don't like having to use my first few P points just so that I can manage inventory properly.

- Don't like the battery system. Only the last battery recharges thus this means if you use consumables to get the other battery charges, any ability you use will burn the non-rechargable ones first then your "last hope", this should have been done different such as to burn the rechargable one first then dip into your ressources. Basically this means I'm not using my abilities/fun mechanics as much as I can.

- Unsure if what I do, say, really matters... the Mass Effect effect. Another playthrough (which will happen) can answer this question properly.

- Weird and comicaly skeletal animations to bodies when going around corners (aka, get stuck in walls, boxes, or even fly up 6 feet in the air, lol)

- Far too easy, even on HARD settings. No issue taking down easy AI or finding plenty of ammunition.

- For a game that cares about security, I find ammunition placement highly suspect.

Overall, a very good game. Looking forward to go home tonight and play it.


#16

Frank

Frankie Williamson

What you does matter. There are some consequences that don't show up till end game. All in all it doesn't matter much, but if you execute an NPC early on, he doesn't show up later. That kind of thing.


#17

Dave

Dave

Frankie Williamson said:
Man, the new game has some iffy voice acting in places, but fuck:

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"Maybe its bes I don kno da pacifics!"

Oi vey. Talk about setting civil rights back a few years.


#18

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Oh them crazy Quebecers!


#19

Jay

Jay



#20

Dave

Dave

Jay said:
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That ain't no shit.


#21

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Just rescued Dr. Girlfriend Reed. I guess the game is doing it's job when it affected me emotionally when I put together that she was shacking up with that fucking cripple. I was pretty mad.


#22

LordRendar

LordRendar

I love the level of Immersion in this game.At first I was the Paragon of Good.Always Non-Leathal and as little as possible contact with the enemy.After the Airplane crash in Hengshua I was like: "How dare they kill my pilot!Belltower and everyone that dealt with them will suffer!"
From that point on,it was non-stop headshots with an Silenced,Armore-piercing 10MM Handgun.


#23



Overflight

LordRendar said:
I love the level of Immersion in this game.At first I was the Paragon of Good.Always Non-Leathal and as little as possible contact with the enemy.After the Airplane crash in Hengshua I was like: "How dare they kill my pilot!Belltower and everyone that dealt with them will suffer!"
From that point on,it was non-stop headshots with an Silenced,Armore-piercing 10MM Handgun.
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Yeah, that's definitely the point where most people go "Man, FUCK the Pacifist achievement! THOSE BASTARDS WILL PAY." I kept up my no-kill run because at that point I didn't have any decent weapons, though.

It was bad enough seeing those fuckers drag Faridah out of the plane, execute her in cold blood and start gloating about it. Then I found her corpse in the Harvesters' hideout, meaning Belltower sold it to be stripped of augumentations before her blood was even cold. It was one of the saddest moments I have ever experienced in a videogame.
Frankie Williamson said:
Just rescued Dr. Girlfriend Reed. I guess the game is doing it's job when it affected me emotionally when I put together that she was shacking up with that fucking cripple. I was pretty mad.
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I wasn't so much mad as rather intrigued as to why she would address Namir not only by his first name but in such an affectionate tone considering the guy killed half her colleagues and smacked her in the face with his flayed robo fist. Keep in mind that when Namir mentioned "the things we love" we wasn't necessarily referring to Reed: according to the tie-in novel, Namir has a family. I'm willing to chalk Reed's reaction to Stockholm syndrome. Dunno why her lab looked like someone blew up a can of white paint in the 2001: A Space Odyssey hotel room, though.

On the other hand, that post credits scene made me go "THAT BITCH!". She's going to work on the friggin GREY DEATH? WHAT THE HELL?


#24

Dave

Dave

I will be getting this game tonight, thanks to one of my fantasy football guys. I can't wait to play it!


#25

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Is anyone else having trouble finding ammunition for certain weapons? I always have plenty of 10mm pistol and shotgun ammo on hand but am always critically short on the combat rifle and sniper rifle.

I can't wait for the weekend so I can log some serious time in this. I only just got out of the first city.


#26

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Overflight said:
Yeah, that's definitely the point where most people go "Man, FUCK the Pacifist achievement! THOSE BASTARDS WILL PAY." I kept up my no-kill run because at that point I didn't have any decent weapons, though.

It was bad enough seeing those fuckers drag Faridah out of the plane, execute her in cold blood and start gloating about it. Then I found her corpse in the Harvesters' hideout, meaning Belltower sold it to be stripped of augumentations before her blood was even cold. It was one of the saddest moments I have ever experienced in a videogame.

I wasn't so much mad as rather intrigued as to why she would address Namir not only by his first name but in such an affectionate tone considering the guy killed half her colleagues and smacked her in the face with his flayed robo fist. Keep in mind that when Namir mentioned "the things we love" we wasn't necessarily referring to Reed: according to the tie-in novel, Namir has a family. I'm willing to chalk Reed's reaction to Stockholm syndrome. Dunno why her lab looked like someone blew up a can of white paint in the 2001: A Space Odyssey hotel room, though.

On the other hand, that post credits scene made me go "THAT BITCH!". She's going to work on the friggin GREY DEATH? WHAT THE HELL?
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I saved my pilot by opening an augmented can of woopass on the assailants
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Azurephoenix said:
Is anyone else having trouble finding ammunition for certain weapons? I always have plenty of 10mm pistol and shotgun ammo on hand but am always critically short on the combat rifle and sniper rifle.

I can't wait for the weekend so I can log some serious time in this. I only just got out of the first city.
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At the end of the game the exact opposite is true, I can't find any 10 mil pistol ammo anywhere and it's my favorite gun. Combat and heavy combat rifle ammo pour out of everything.
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Overflight said:
I wasn't so much mad as rather intrigued as to why she would address Namir not only by his first name but in such an affectionate tone considering the guy killed half her colleagues and smacked her in the face with his flayed robo fist. Keep in mind that when Namir mentioned "the things we love" we wasn't necessarily referring to Reed: according to the tie-in novel, Namir has a family. I'm willing to chalk Reed's reaction to Stockholm syndrome. Dunno why her lab looked like someone blew up a can of white paint in the 2001: A Space Odyssey hotel room, though.
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I didn't mean Namir, I meant Hugh Darrow. It's his computer in that white room with her and there's a leg brace in the room.


#27

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Frankie Williamson said:
At the end of the game the exact opposite is true, I can't find any 10 mil pistol ammo anywhere and it's my favorite gun. Combat and heavy combat rifle ammo pour out of everything.
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Well at least my super upgraded combat rifle will see some use then :) (plus my guy is all set up for fully auto firefights).


#28

Jay

Jay

My guys is a hacker sneak take down specialist.

Still find the game easy as fuck even on hard.


#29

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Have you fought machine gun arm magic grenade first boss?


#30

Baerdog

Baerdog

Barrett's not that hard if you stay behind pillars and throw barrels at him, Donkey Kong style.


#31

Jay

Jay

That's a spoiler.


#32

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Jay said:
My guys is a hacker sneak take down specialist.

Still find the game easy as fuck even on hard.
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I have to agree with Jay here... even with my in your face shoot first and ask questions later playstyle I rarely find myself overmatched (or even having to retreat).


#33

Baerdog

Baerdog

Jay said:
That's a spoiler.
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Sorry, fixed.


#34

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Well, it was barely worth sitting through the EXCRUCIATINGLY long credits to find out:

Dr. Girlfriend Reed is indeed the cunty cuntface I thought she was seeing as she's at least partially responsible for the gray death in Deus Ex. Though, the remix of the original game's title screen music afterwards was a treat.


#35

Denbrought

Denbrought

I need help, this game is depriving me of my due sleep D: Hadn't binge-played a videogame for such long stretches since I last replayed Deus Ex last Thanksgiving. These games speak to me.

Doing a no-lethal hacker ghost run for my first, shit is fun.


#36

LordRendar

LordRendar

I think most of us went that route. Next up,im gonna play a Gun-Toting Sociopath.


#37

Terrik

Terrik

I did sneaky hacker thing except..

For example, when they said I should go through that one gang area without being seen, I did exactly that, by shooting everyone in the head without actually being discovered. Not a single gang member survived, and I still got credit for the mission objective


#38

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Yeah, I'm the guy that didn't sneak. I just blew the holy shit out of everyone. I had a massive body count. Especially at
panchea, boy I did not spare the machine gun fire there. Or the mines.


#39



Overflight

First DLC pack announced:

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/09/02/deus-ex-website-rss-reveals-missing-link-dlc-details/

Whoa whoa whoa. Let me get this straight. Are you telling me that Adam got in the hibernation pod in Hengsha, went on some epic adventure you are now "releasing" (which is most likely cut content packaged as DLC) and then went BACK in the pod or into ANOTHER pod? Pardon my French but WHAT THE HELL IS THIS BULLSHIT?


#40

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Ehhhhn.


#41

Jay

Jay

The game is good, real good but has some flaws, more Pros and Cons.

Pros :

- Beautiful game with great voice acting across the board. Sure some people will find some comments racist and shit but honestly, I think it's realistic and is a part of the game universe.

- Tranq dart effects are beatiful to watch, so are the double takedowns.

- LOVE THE HACKING.

- Currently at the part where I need to infiltrate the Chinese medical facility. These cities ARE HUGE, full of interesting things, the game really doesn't feel linear as fuck. Lots of secrets and hidden notches. A lot of funny Easter eggs. I like the many many npcs with interesting things to say.

- I find the animations pretty damn solid.

- Beyond a few random crashes, the game runs smooth as hell.

Cons :

- I still find the game incredibly easy even on hard. In fact, I'll have to boldly state it's been noobed up a lot. Many times it's there's far too many ways to get into places. I'd sneak expertly and do things only to realize that there's another way I could have done it if I moved a big box (and waste Praxis points) to open a vent. Why a big tough guy would sneak in a vent is beyond me.

- Ammo placement is ridiculous. Let me place this shotgun or a clip of ammunition in the middle of a hotel with 50+ guests walking around. This kind of removes me from my immersion in this very realistic looking game.

- Still on the subject on the ease of the game... first boss battle was a joke. He comes in with a minigun on his arm, I died the first time. Why? I resorted on using a shotgun. I hated myself for it. First time I died in the game, stupidly. When I restarted I played my character correctly. Sneaking around pillars, using my cloak to get away from him and sniping tranq darts at him from across the room. I beat him and got a cut scene where he's bleeding with holes in him and shit. I WAS ANNOYED since I only used tranq darts on him. Was very easily and an enjoyable boss battle. I played it again for shits and giggles and LMAO when he killed himself by lopping random grendades around to try to find me only to have it bounce off a wall at his feet and killing himself.

- Beyond that my only fault with the game is the weird battery mechanism I mention before.

If there's anything you want me to read in spoiler, quote my post. Thanks


#42

Jay

Jay

I cheered when we had to go to Montreal... au STADE OLYMPIC! Hacking into the terminals was a joy, the amount of Quebecor jokes was very enjoyable. :)

The boss battle with the russian woman was incredibly easy. The fact that Eliza was telling me when she was coming was beyond trivializing. On the subject of Eliza, I kinda of had the impression she was an AI.

Went back to Detroit. I liked how they changed things around. I LOVED the showdown during the press conference with Taggert. In fact, I love ALL big dicussions when you analyse them and pick your choices.

Went back to China, survived the ambush... felt like a pro saving Fly Girl. :)

Currently running some side missions and about to head into Harvester territory.

This really is a good game and I'm happy I payed full price for it. They deserve it.

Now to finish it before tomorrow... DEAD ISLAND AWAITS.


#43

Jay

Jay

Just finished the game. Seriously, ALL boss battles were extremely easy. The one who looked like a mass of meat was a bit more interesting since the dragon bitch used her abilities to fuck up my interface (nice job eidos!) so I ran around paranoid as fuck but after 7-8 tranqs he went down like a little bitch.

The final battle was an absolute joke, I didn't even get shot once and it was over in 2 minutes. I turned/hacked everything off and stood in front of her as she was helpless and shot her with a few tranq shots in the ass. I mean really people! Where le challenge asti!

Loved how beautiful Panacea looked and the crazed zombie-like augs was hilarious.

Did anyone else finish the game with 1-2 praxis kits to spare and completely maxed out on skills? I hacked EVERYTHING.

I thought the speeches with Darrow FANTASTIC.

And the ending felt very... abrupt.. though I did enjoy the cut-scenes A LOT. Very nice speeches.

Overall a great game and worthy to play.


#44

figmentPez

figmentPez

I've not played DEx:HR, so could someone tell me if this video is a commentary on modern games in particular, or is it a parody of Human Revolution specifically?



#45

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Both, fuck that shit.


#46

Math242

Math242

blah, i play with reticle off, highlight off and objectives marker off. funnier that way


#47

bhamv3

bhamv3

I giggled at that video.

Then I remembered all parody is based on truth, and then I felt sad.


#48

Math242

Math242

I honestly haven't felt that way while playing Human revolution.


#49



Overflight

Ugh. That video really annoys me. I understand that it MIGHT be a parody of modern gaming in general, but as a parody of the game itself, it looks like it was made by someone that had a glance at early game footage and extrapolated from there. Case in point:

* The object highlighting is off by default in the highest difficulty. In fact (and I was kind of embarrassed to admit this at first, but I've seen other people do the same) it's kind of NECESSARY in this game because the amount of detail and clutter: for example, some critical notes are hidden in bookshelves or under tables and are very hard to make out otherwise and it can get quite boring running around desks to find out which drawers open and which don't (which are otherwise identical).

* There isn't that amount of handholding. The tutorial videos can be skipped at will and from the plant onwards, you are absolutely on your own. In fact, I've read several reviews that praised the fact that the game "treats you like an adult and lets you make your own choices"

* "This is a dead body". That's pretty critical for a pacifist run. Unconscious and dead bodies look the same and sometimes they die unexpectedly from actions as innocuous looking as moving the bodies around too much.

* The pre order DLC is pretty bullshit though. And this new "Missing Link" DLC sounds equally bullshit, as I claimed above.


#50

Math242

Math242

damn, it's been a long time since i've felt that "sad" after finishing a game. I WANT MORE


#51

Jay

Jay

I appreciate this game far more now after the shitty release of Dead Island.


#52

Math242

Math242

dead island is preloading right now because it's released tomorrow in Europe. I'm afraid of the launch shenanigans


#53

Frank

Frankie Williamson

You guys are getting proper version according to news I've read.


#54

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

I just got to Singapore in Deus Ex HR and I have over 1000 rounds of heavy rifle ammo to go with my fully upgraded heavy rifle. I can't wait to start the shenannigans.


#55

Frank

Frankie Williamson

The final area will be a treat for you with boundless amounts of ammo you cold blooded killer you. No spoilers or nuthin'.


#56

Math242

Math242

oh yeah, you'll find good use for those


#57

Jay

Jay

I didn't shoot, him anyone in the final stagem unless you mean the boss, who was helpless in front of me


#58

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

figmentPez said:
I've not played DEx:HR, so could someone tell me if this video is a commentary on modern games in particular, or is it a parody of Human Revolution specifically?

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That video is pretty much bullshit.


#59

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Started playing this myself recently, after hearing such good things about it. I have to say I am torn, as I want to play a stealthy pacifist but a lot of the time that means sneaking around and (because I can sometimes suck at timing) reloading saves. There are times I almost wish I could go in guns blazing, but that would remove my bonuses, obviously. Plus the fact that my guy can't seem to aim worth beans and seems to die if even a few bullets hit him.

Is it just me, or is the person that did the music for this inspired by Mass Effect? I swear in the beginning I was waiting for Shepard to jump out.

Right now I am just keeping up the stealth options and also took the social enhancer, so that I could talk my way into things. Plan to try maxing out hacking, stealth, and all the movement enhancements like the fall damage nullifier, jump enhancer, etc. Still considering if I want to take cloaking or just stick with regular old stealth. So many options.


#60

Dave

Dave

The biggest problem with being sneaky is that if you go that way the boss fights will be brutal, regardless of what Jay says. That first boss fight was a motherfucker for me because my build was sneaky/hacky.

The second boss fight was even worse. She sneaked just as well as me.


#61

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I had no combat or sneak skills when I fought the first boss. I'd put everything into hacking better and jumping higher and lifting heavy things. That first boss was a God damn nightmare. The Penny Arcade comic was exactly true in my case.


#62

Math242

Math242

emp+ explosive barrel X2 = gg :)


#63

LordRendar

LordRendar

The first boss was annoying,but after 2 loads i managed to kill him.The second boss though.... placed an EMP Mine then unloaded a hailstorm of Heavy Rifle Bullets into her head.


#64

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Dave said:
The biggest problem with being sneaky is that if you go that way the boss fights will be brutal, regardless of what Jay says. That first boss fight was a motherfucker for me because my build was sneaky/hacky.

The second boss fight was even worse. She sneaked just as well as me.
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Take two praxis points. Purchase the typhoon system, and stock up on typhoon ammo.

I call it the problem solver, works great for bosses.


#65

Dave

Dave

Ravenpoe said:
Take two praxis points. Purchase the typhoon system, and stock up on typhoon ammo.

I call it the problem solver, works great for bosses.
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I got rid of mine. Every time I tried to sneak, instead of F3 & F4 to walk quietly and use my SUPER VISION, I'd accidentally hit F2 and kill everyone around me.


#66

Math242

Math242

The typhoon is the last augment i bought because i really had no other options left.

Man, that shit is overpowered.


#67

Terrik

Terrik


Dave said:
I got rid of mine. Every time I tried to sneak, instead of F3 & F4 to walk quietly and use my SUPER VISION, I'd accidentally hit F2 and kill everyone around me.
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I kept doing that too, so I just reassigned the typhoon key to "t" so it never happened again.


#68

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

You know, I am rather dissapointed with how my playthrough is going while I look back at it, I kind of wanted to attempt to neutralize all the terrorists in the warehouse mission but I instead avoided them for the most part. I am thinking this weekend I might end up starting over and try for a full takedown, pacifist, ghost. It will be more difficult, but I think in the end will feel more rewarding.

Also I just learned that gunning down those guys in the beginning already messed up my pacifist trophy, which stinks since I thought as a tutorial it would give me a pass on that one.


#69

Dave

Dave

I started as a murdering tool. And when I got my silencer for my pistol the fuckers never stood a chance. Fuck that pacifist stuff. I get enough of that in my real life. In games I want to crack a few heads and giggle as I hide the bodies.


#70

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

I'm with you Dave...

Although I never even installed any silencers... I want them to know I'm coming.


#71

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Well I don't want to be entirely a pacifist, so I might just ignore the achievement, but I am not the type of person that will kill everyone in a room if I can help it.

One thing of note that is kind of odd, but do you notice that taking the non-lethal approach is often way more rewarding? A non-lethal takedown is not only more silent, but also gives more XP towards Praxis Points. Seems like a no-brainer that you would do the non-lethal takedown. If you really want the person dead you can just shoot them in the head after they are knocked out.

Although I never even installed any silencers... I want them to know I'm coming.
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One of my favorite moves is to open a door while a guy is looking at it, then hug the wall. They walk through the door to check out why it opened and you do a takedown on them as they pass. I liked it because it was a realistic way to get the jump on people.


#72

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

It's important to note that I don't indiscriminately kill everyone in this game. Actually... the takedown mechanic comes in super handy for me when the police get involved in one of my shoot outs and I don't want them killed.

Scythe... I've done that door trick too... works like a charm.

I also enjoy leaving a body right in the middle of a patrol route just to see the alarm it raises (and the amusing dialogs).


#73

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

One thing I wish I had was a way to distract guards, like throw something to make them look a direction, or even use it to lure a guard to a spot I want him to go so that I can sneak up behind him without his friends. I would fire a gun, but that just makes all of them look for me. I want something more like the door trick in that, usually, only the guard that sees it and not all his buddies go to check it out.

I mean really, it can be anything, some rocks, a soda can, maybe throw some spare ammo. Maybe I can hope for an update someday.


#74

Jay

Jay

You can do that.

Keep your eye out for boxes. Throw them wisely.


#75

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Jay said:
Keep your eye out for boxes. Throw them wisely.
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Ah you can do that? I may have to look for the command. Everything I pick up was just for moving and dropping, and the tutorial didn't mention anything about throwing. I will give it a check but I guess it's a different button then the interact button (E).


#76

Jay

Jay

It's shoot.


#77

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Jay said:
It's shoot.
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That's odd because I swore I have hit the trigger before and got nothing while holding a box.

I will give it a try again. Thanks for the info regardless.


#78



TheBrew

ScytheRexx said:
One thing I wish I had was a way to distract guards, like throw something to make them look a direction, or even use it to lure a guard to a spot I want him to go so that I can sneak up behind him without his friends. I would fire a gun, but that just makes all of them look for me. I want something more like the door trick in that, usually, only the guard that sees it and not all his buddies go to check it out.

I mean really, it can be anything, some rocks, a soda can, maybe throw some spare ammo. Maybe I can hope for an update someday.
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If you have the silenced pistol at least, you can fire a shot and the NPCs will investigate where the bullet impacted, not where it was fired from.


#79

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

If you have the silenced pistol at least, you can fire a shot and the NPCs will investigate where the bullet impacted, not where it was fired from.
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Nice, that may be a better option then. Just have to get a silencer.


#80

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Jay said:
You can do that.

Keep your eye out for boxes. Throw them wisely.
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Frankie Williamson said:
B: Cops don't fucking like having cardboard chucked at them. If someone I was supposed to work with threw a cardboard box at me, I probably wouldn't respond with automatic weapon fire.
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Fo sho.


#81

Terrik

Terrik

My super modded (with silencer!) 10mm pistol was my favorite weapon in the game. I got pissed when I couldnt find enough ammo later on in the game.


#82

Jay

Jay

I think once I was able to do double takedowns I didn't shoot anymore (tranq darts) unless it was for boss battles.

This is such a fantastic game.

The ending music? Goosebumps... Goodbumps.



Maybe... maybe it was the ending I choose...

Maybe it was what I saw....

Maybe I regretted that such a great game ended.

Kudos Eidos Montreal. Kudos.

Merci pour votre bon travail.

Thank you finally for money well spent.


#83

Denbrought

Denbrought

Dave said:
The biggest problem with being sneaky is that if you go that way the boss fights will be brutal, regardless of what Jay says. That first boss fight was a motherfucker for me because my build was sneaky/hacky.

The second boss fight was even worse. She sneaked just as well as me.
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I killed both in non-lethal ways... Just kept shooting them with the stun gun until they fell. I think the first one took something like 19 shots though.


#84

Jay

Jay

If you have the Cloak ability, even LVL 1 it changes everything. Without it, it will be harder.

I killed all bossed with my tranq gun on hard setting.

I didn't find it hard at all, then again I had the Cloak ability.


#85

Terrik

Terrik

Heh, when choosing the difficulty setting, how could I choose anything else but "Give me Deus Ex", those bastards know how to make me suffer.


#86

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Jay said:
If you have the Cloak ability, even LVL 1 it changes everything. Without it, it will be harder.

I killed all bossed with my tranq gun on hard setting.

I didn't find it hard at all, then again I had the Cloak ability.
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Yeah. bosses 2-whatever AFTER I got the cloak were simple affairs, the first dude when I had no combat or stealth skills was a fuuuuucking nightmare.


#87

Terrik

Terrik

I didn't use the cloak mod in my stealthy run. Being only able to charge the first battery and only 7 seconds of use at max level per battery meant I'd have to be crunching a lot of energy bars to get what I wanted out of it. I relied on my 10mm silenced and sniper rifle to get things done.
the first dude when I had no combat or stealth skills was a fuuuuucking nightmare.
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I didn't think it was so hard as long as you
threw threw the yellow gas canister at him to your right to stun him and then use the red to blast him. Rinse repeat. I also started the fight by chucking a frag grenade at him before taking cover. Of course, if you're going for non-lethal, I guess it would be a bit harder.

For the second boss I
used the stun gun and unloaded on her with the heavy rifle
and for the third boss I
used the laser rifle to shoot through the window without getting hit


#88

Jay

Jay

Cloak mod made you able to move places very nicely. 7 seconds to place myself anywhere I want? Yes plz.


#89

Dave

Dave

Jay said:
Cloak mod made you able to move places very nicely. 7 seconds to place myself anywhere I want? Yes plz.
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I always run out of juice and can't do it again. The battery thing in this game is dumb as fuck. You can have 5 batteries but resting only refills 1?!? Dumb, dumb, dumb.


#90

Math242

Math242

yeah it's dumb but if you could refill all 5 automatically, i would just have kept cloak on forever past Detroit.


#91

Terrik

Terrik

Or at least allow an additional cell to charge for every praxis point you spend in gaining additional cells. 3 cells=1 charge 4=2, 5=3. That wouldn't have been too terrible.


#92

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

When I decide to play through a second time, I plan to hold out for a mod that makes the regeneration happen to all power cells. You know it will happen sooner or later.

Just got to China, I played the FEMA Compound a bit more lethal then the Sarif Warehouse, justifying it that they were enemy soldiers and murderers rather then just out of touch gangbangers or protesters. I still did non-lethal takedowns if I could sneak up on them though, but if they spotted me I was not going to shy from popping them in the head with my revolver or sniper rifle. The boss was somewhat of a pain in the rear but I just kept wearing him down by running in a massive circle, shooting him with every weapon I had.

Actually, the most annoying mission I had was due to my own moral compass getting in my way. I could have skipped a really annoying section if I just silencer shot a guy in the head, but I couldn't bring myself to assassinate a guy so coldly. I felt bad when, to progress in one quest, I had to snap a gangbangers neck while breaking through a wall, but I just realized I would have to get over it otherwise I was just going to drag the game out.


#93

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

As much as the battery mechanic annoys the hell out of me... unlimited regeneration of the full battery will make the game a joke due to the cloaking.

It seems from other people's experiences that the game is already too easy using cloaking/stealth devices even with the current battery scheme.

Hell... I fight everything head on and the game is too easy.


#94

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

The original didn't have recharging energy at all. If you wanted to use your augs, you either ate a power cell, or you went without.

Our you refilled at the same bots that you used to install augs


#95

figmentPez

figmentPez

I'm kinda puzzled as to why they didn't make the single rechargeable battery the one that gets used first. That would seem to encourage the use of powers in short bursts, while still paying a price for more spectacular displays.


#96

Denbrought

Denbrought

figmentPez said:
I'm kinda puzzled as to why they didn't make the single rechargeable battery the one that gets used first. That would seem to encourage the use of powers in short bursts, while still paying a price for more spectacular displays.
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I don't get your phrasing, how is that any different than the system in HR?


#97

figmentPez

figmentPez

Denbrought said:
I don't get your phrasing, how is that any different than the system in HR?
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Maybe I misread what others have said about the battery system. I should have made it clear I haven't played HR.

Jay said
- Don't like the battery system. Only the last battery recharges thus this means if you use consumables to get the other battery charges, any ability you use will burn the non-rechargable ones first then your "last hope", this should have been done different such as to burn the rechargable one first then dip into your ressources. Basically this means I'm not using my abilities/fun mechanics as much as I can.
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I took that to mean that if you have non-rechargeable batteries, those have to be used up before the rechargeable battery gets used. I agreed with Jay, if I were making the system, I would have the rechargeable get used first.


#98

Jay

Jay

Most of the time, I felt the extra batteries were pretty useless. I never bothered with more than 3 and would have stayed at 2 if I didn't have Praxis points coming out of my ears.


#99

Denbrought

Denbrought

figmentPez said:
I took that to mean that if you have non-rechargeable batteries, those have to be used up before the rechargeable battery gets used. I agreed with Jay, if I were making the system, I would have the rechargeable get used first.
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Nope. Basically, the rightmost battery you have (that is, the one currently being used) is the only one that regenerates. So partial uses of a battery are covered by the recharge, but if you use all of it, it'll only be able to refill the next one (which is already full, or close to).

That way, abilities that cost 1 bar or more still have a real cost, but short bursts of low-cost abilities are covered.


#100

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Just finished it.

Last boss was stupid easy because I had the Laser Rifle, which just went right through her shield. Overall though the last mission area was a pain in the ass once they unlocked the defense doors, because most of the crazies don't have easy to navigate patterns. I was lucky most just stood near a wall, and the few times I did get some on me, my Revolver made short work of them.

Speaking of the Revolver, I love that gun. It does not have a lot of ammo so you have to conserve a bit, but after you find the Explosive Shot upgrade its so amazing when taking out groups. I used the Revolver as my clearer, Combat Rifle as my main firefight weapon, and Pistol for popping people quickly after taking down one other guy, then had Laser Rifle with I decided to save in case I felt I needed to get through walls.

I gave up on pacifist, just didn't have the patience by that point.

My only issue was the ending felt a little abrupt and cryptic, I kind of wanted to see a little bit of what my choice did to the world, rather then just a montage of real world footage. I didn't even get a final heartwarming message Frank, and I was so waiting for one.

Still, it was a great game.


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