Fat kid stands up for himself and gets a suspension... and ETERNAL GLORY!

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Bullies are usually all talk and usually after they receive their first punch they tend to back down real quick unless they are in bigger numbers. If you know your locations, you'll avoid that altogether.

I played boths sides of that discussion. When I went to highschool as a junior I was the shortest & smallest boy in my entire class year of 200+ students. I got picked on A LOT. Guys were taller, strong than I was and even my anger got my share of welts. I cannot describe you how I can loathe some people and how terrible some people can be.

Near the end of that school year I finally hit puberty and when I came back from my 2nd year in autumn (sophomore for you americans I think) I went from 5'2 to 6'3 and from 120 pounds to 180 pounds. I also managed to become good friends with a group of friends as well who were big guys and didn't take shit from anyone.

First day of school.... the "bullies" were clearly half a feet smaller than I was at this point and giving away a lot of weight as well. Their face? Priceless. Leave me to say this, retribution was given in full, many times and in ways I'm too ashamed to even share with you folks . I got suspended many many times and caused a lot of problems for my family as my anger issues got the better of me. Public schools suck a dick.

The bullies though? They stopped and in fact turned around when I came walking up the hallway.

So for Casey, you'll be my hero and I hope you inspire others to kick a bullie's ass.
 
Lol, I still remember my Kung Fu teacher's first lesson about "real" fighting.
"Run if you can." :p

There was never any pretense that what we were being taught was intended to make us "fighters", I mean, it did have it's practical uses, our form was pretty practical. It was designed to get you out of a fight as fast as possible.
 
yeah, that's basically what any good martial arts studio teaches.

Things I have been taught (from various teachers)
  • at the end of a knife fight, there is the one who slowly bleeds to death and the one who is dead
  • The best defense is to not be there
  • create an opening and flee
  • "Cheat" as often as you need in order to survive.
  • we live in a world of weapons in plain sight. Use whatever you can to survive.
  • If you're fighting for any other reason than survival, you're doing it wrong.
But there is a difference in preparedness a person can have from the type of training they do. Just learning kata and point sparring will only instill a false sense of confidence in a person who will be horribly injured some day.
Yeah, all very true. I think our style was pretty suited for a fight if you had to get in one. We actually didn't compete in any sort of tournaments because we had very little to use that wasn't focused on breaking bones making any sort of tournament... difficult.
 
My first real martial arts teacher drilled us endlessly in simple block-counter combinations and physical conditioning. When we asked her why, she said it's because the most important things you need to know to defend yourself from an attacker are:

1) Block/evade their attack
2) Punch/kick/bite/gouge them somewhere painful
3) Run like shit in a different direction
 
Getting beaten teaches you what doesn't work against another person. Which is actually a valuable lesson.
 

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Yeah, martial arts doesn't teach you much about how to fight. Yeah, you learn how to throw a punch, and there is some physical conditioning, but real fights quickly loose any semblance of form. The amount of fights I have been in where there was even a chance to throw a proper punch are negligible.

Also, if martial arts had a lot to do with real fights then every stance/form would have the 'kick for the balls' step in it, would require you to wear steel toed boots, and would teach you the best places to kick someone when they are on the ground so that they don't get up (but also you don't risk killing them). They would also involve 10 minutes per class of getting punched hard in the head, to train you to not black out. Also you would need to train really drunk, since that's when you're most likely to get in a fight.

Real fights are up close and horribly dirty. Last real fight I was in lasted about 5 seconds for me; I got sucker punched, blacked out immediately, and then woke up in a cop car.

*I will give martial arts credit for giving people a degree of confidence in fighting, so they don't back down from every potential bully/etc, but I take that same credit back and then some for giving peoplet the idea that they should stand up to an armed opponent. The amount of jackasses I have talked to who think they could disarm someone with a knife and/or gun freaks me out*
 
there's a difference in efficieny between martial arts and combat sports.

A good boxer (thai or western) who has to do a lot of sparring will perform better in a street fight than someone who's never tried to actually hit someone because "techniques are deadly"
 
The amount of jackasses I have talked to who think they could disarm someone with a knife and/or gun freaks me out*
Yeah, our teacher did a lot to discourage that. He would bring in Nerf guns and have the true badassess in the class stand a few feet away and have them attack to show that even with a nerf gun it fired to fast for them to do anything.
 
Yeah, our teacher did a lot to discourage that. He would bring in Nerf guns and have the true badassess in the class stand a few feet away and have them attack to show that even with a nerf gun it fired to fast for them to do anything.
My teacher did something similar. She brought in rubber knives with chalk dust on them, and told us to react to being attacked. Everyone who tried for a disarm (which at the time was everyone, including me) got marked, and then had to run 5 laps as punishment for being stupid.

The only person who didn't get marked was the junior instructor, who just fended the blow off, dodged, and ran away.
 
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My master taught us that Kung Fu is more of a discipline. He said that it doesn't work in a real world fight because everyone uses different technique. It is best to avoid the fight than to be in one.
 
Between MCMAP, my department's VIPER program, and the little bit of American Tang Soo Do that I took as a young teen, I can confidently state that if I get into a fight with someone, I am going to have to kick them as hard as I can and disengage - I don't have the juice to last long in a fight.

VIPER is all about ground-avoidance: a cop has no business getting into a scuffle with someone. We are to hit hard, fast and one time only, then secure the assailant Joint-locks and limb manipulation feature heavily.

MCMAP is (in it's later stages) all about killing someone, via hands, legs, knives, rifle strikes or improvised weapons - it helps to teach flexibility.

American Tang Soo Do is formulaic and about looking good in a tournament. Got the beginnings of some discipline there, though...
 
O_C - the funny part about MCMAP is that it's "toned done" from the previous system, which was LINE (Linear Infighting Neural Overdrive Engagement) which was designed purely to kill your opponent. MCMAP has the possibility of restraints and less-lethal techniques.

Here's what LINE was designed for:
  • (a.) all techniques must not be vision dominant; techniques may be executed effectively in low-light conditions, or other impaired visibility conditions (i.e., smoke or gas)
  • (b.) extreme mental and physical fatigue
  • (c.) usable by the Marine / soldier while wearing full combat gear
  • (d.) proper execution of the techniques must cause death to the opponent
  • (e.) gender neutrality; must be usable by- and against- either gender

I've got one of the manuals for LINE and basically everything ends with "stomp directly down on your opponent's skull or neck with your entire body weight". It is not a "fighting style", it's meant for "oh shit, rifle's empty, need to kill this guy before I can reload" kind of situations.
 
Yeah, I was fortunate enough to receive some training from a former LINE instructor... "With a STOMP! and a SMASH!"

They discontinued LINE because a Geiger Tiger went out into Jacksonville, got drunk and stupid, and ended up committing Aggravated Battery on someone in a bar. Dumbass... there's always one...

 
See, that right there proves he didn't pay attention - if he had executed properly, it should have been manslaughter.
 
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