Gas Bandit's Political Thread III

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A Troll said:
Shakey said:
But it's the governments responsibility to keep us safe, so we should be willing to let them do what they want to do that. Who cares if a few innocent people get caught in the cross fire, it will save a few other innocent people.
:shock:

God bless your optimism, but I just don't think the world works that way. People have the keep their government in line, not the other way around. That's how it *should* work, anyway.
:uhhuh: A thousand times this. That's why I support the right to protest (not just on issues I agree with).
 
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Matt²

A Troll said:
Wow Neon, nice job veering off the tracks there. Don't get me wrong, I acknowledge that DarkAudit's comments were rather incendiary... but damn. Way to fill a stereotype.
Well you know... I could see the fuse lit and I was just trying to make his head :explode:

:tongue:

A Troll said:
Shakey said:
But it's the governments responsibility to keep us safe, so we should be willing to let them do what they want to do that. Who cares if a few innocent people get caught in the cross fire, it will save a few other innocent people.
:shock:

God bless your optimism, but I just don't think the world works that way. People have the keep their government in line, not the other way around. That's how it *should* work, anyway.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
is what I was going for.
 
A Troll said:
Shakey said:
But it's the governments responsibility to keep us safe, so we should be willing to let them do what they want to do that. Who cares if a few innocent people get caught in the cross fire, it will save a few other innocent people.
:shock:

God bless your optimism, but I just don't think the world works that way. People have the keep their government in line, not the other way around. That's how it *should* work, anyway.
Yeah, I wasn't being serious.

Sarcasm + Internet = Lost
 
Neener neener. :finger:

But seriously, the wingnuttery has conflated "expanding Americorps" into a new Hitler Youth (actually said to me by a woman handing out pocket copies of the Constitution and ranting about H.B. 1388), or invoking the "reeducation camps" the North Vietnamese used on the ARVN officer Corps in the 70s after the war (Congresswoman Michelle Bachman).
 
A Troll said:
Shakey said:
But it's the governments responsibility to keep us safe, so we should be willing to let them do what they want to do that. Who cares if a few innocent people get caught in the cross fire, it will save a few other innocent people.
:shock:

God bless your optimism, but I just don't think the world works that way. People have the keep their government in line, not the other way around. That's how it *should* work, anyway.
We call that "mob rule". You know, like the mess from the French Revolution?

And after the pile of noble corpses becomes big enough, the people make a new government and a new ruling class to keep them in line. And the cycle continues.
 
Futureking said:
A Troll said:
Shakey said:
But it's the governments responsibility to keep us safe, so we should be willing to let them do what they want to do that. Who cares if a few innocent people get caught in the cross fire, it will save a few other innocent people.
:shock:

God bless your optimism, but I just don't think the world works that way. People have the keep their government in line, not the other way around. That's how it *should* work, anyway.
We call that "mob rule". You know, like the mess from the French Revolution?

And after the pile of corpses becomes big enough, the people make a new government to keep them in line. And the cycle continues.
We? You have a mouse in your pocket?
 

GasBandit

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DarkAudit said:
A woman at a protest here actually equated [BUSH] with the [Hitler].

I'll just say this, because I've had enough. FUCK THE
. You LOST THE FUCKING ELECTION. If you can't get over that, then just GTFO. For the love of God, GO! Just stop this sour grapes bullshit.​


Hello, Republican from 2000 and 2004. Nice to meet you. :rofl:
 
GasBandit said:
DarkAudit said:
A woman at a protest here actually equated [BUSH] with the [Hitler].

I'll just say this, because I've had enough. smurf THE
. You LOST THE smurfing ELECTION. If you can't get over that, then just GTFO. For the love of God, GO! Just stop this sour grapes bullshit.​


Hello, Republican from 2000 and 2004. Nice to meet you. :rofl:

Yeah, because the election events of 2008 is even comparable to the events of 2000. :eyeroll:​
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Janet Napolitano is standing by the DHS report on rightwing extremism.

Al Sharpton calls the goons hijacking ships off the coast of Africa "so-called pirates." Otherwise known as Somalia's "voluntary Coast Guard."

We have yet another czar to add to our list in the Obama administration. This time we are getting a "border czar" to oversee efforts to end drug-cartel violence along the U.S.-Mexico border. Heh, how many czars before we're russia, eh?

Did you know that our Defense Secretary Robert Gates denied permission use the Pentagon's most powerful sea-based radar to monitor North Korea's recent missile launch? On orders from Obama?

North Korea's kicking out the nuke inspectors.

Sarkozy's not impressed with the Obamanator.

Iran is complaining to the UN Security Council about Israel's threats to launch an attack.

Pennsylvania had a new $5 million tax-credit program to encourage companies to hire ex-convicts. There were no takers.

Protesting is one thing, but when it becomes a mob preventing someone from communicating their ideas, you cease to be the good guys. The left is just as intolerant of opposing ideas as the most fundie of fundies.

-- Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:46 am --

Krisken said:
GasBandit said:
DarkAudit said:
A woman at a protest here actually equated [BUSH] with the [Hitler].

I'll just say this, because I've had enough. smurf THE
. You LOST THE smurfing ELECTION. If you can't get over that, then just GTFO. For the love of God, GO! Just stop this sour grapes bullshit.​


Hello, Republican from 2000 and 2004. Nice to meet you. :rofl:

Yeah, because the election events of 2008 is even comparable to the events of 2000. :eyeroll:​


The rhetoric is exactly the same, just mirrored.​
 
GasBandit said:
Janet Napolitano is standing by the DHS report on rightwing extremism.

Al Sharpton calls the goons hijacking ships off the coast of Africa "so-called pirates." Otherwise known as Somalia's "voluntary Coast Guard."

We have yet another czar to add to our list in the Obama administration. This time we are getting a "border czar" to oversee efforts to end drug-cartel violence along the U.S.-Mexico border. Heh, how many czars before we're russia, eh?

Did you know that our Defense Secretary Robert Gates denied permission use the Pentagon's most powerful sea-based radar to monitor North Korea's recent missile launch? On orders from Obama?

North Korea's kicking out the nuke inspectors.

Sarkozy's not impressed with the Obamanator.

Iran is complaining to the UN Security Council about Israel's threats to launch an attack.

Pennsylvania had a new $5 million tax-credit program to encourage companies to hire ex-convicts. There were no takers.

Protesting is one thing, but when it becomes a mob preventing someone from communicating their ideas, you cease to be the good guys. The left is just as intolerant of opposing ideas as the most fundie of fundies.

-- Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:46 am --

Krisken said:
GasBandit said:
DarkAudit said:
A woman at a protest here actually equated [BUSH] with the [Hitler].

I'll just say this, because I've had enough. smurf THE
. You LOST THE smurfing ELECTION. If you can't get over that, then just GTFO. For the love of God, GO! Just stop this sour grapes bullshit.​


Hello, Republican from 2000 and 2004. Nice to meet you. :rofl:

Yeah, because the election events of 2008 is even comparable to the events of 2000. :eyeroll:​


The rhetoric is exactly the same, just mirrored.​

Rhetoric without context has no meaning.

Edited to fix one letter.​
 
GasBandit said:
Did you know that our Defense Secretary Robert Gates denied permission use the Pentagon's most powerful sea-based radar to monitor North Korea's recent missile launch? On orders from Obama?
That article actually has some great reasons for both using and not using.
 
Kris, I'm really surprised to see you defending DA on his little screeching rant. Seems like the kind of incendiary attitude that you are usually against... maybe cause he's on your side it's ok? :heythere: I hope not, you have always seemed above that kind of thing...

And really, DA? You should drink some tea. Your blood pressure must be through the roof. Or at the very least :paranoid: smoke up.
 
Espy said:
Kris, I'm really surprised to see you defending DA on his little screeching rant. Seems like the kind of incendiary attitude that you are usually against... maybe cause he's on your side it's ok? :heythere: I hope not, you have always seemed above that kind of thing...

And really, DA? You should drink some tea. Your blood pressure must be through the roof. Or at the very least :paranoid: smoke up.
Nah, not really defending DA. I didn't realize we had sides :p

I do, however, understand the frustration regarding the 2000 election. Even trying to compare the 2000 election to 2008 ignores the history involved and circumstances that enveloped these two elections. The 2000 election cycle was dubious at best. 2004 was won fairly (politically, that is) by Bush.
 
My local paper linked by GasBandit said:
CHAPEL HILL -- UNC-CH police released pepper spray and threatened to use a Taser on student protesters Tuesday evening when a crowd disrupted a speech by former Colorado congressman Tom Tancredo opposing in-state tuition benefits to unauthorized immigrants.
Unauthorized? what the hell?
 
Covar said:
My local paper linked by GasBandit said:
CHAPEL HILL -- UNC-CH police released pepper spray and threatened to use a Taser on student protesters Tuesday evening when a crowd disrupted a speech by former Colorado congressman Tom Tancredo opposing in-state tuition benefits to unauthorized immigrants.
Unauthorized? what the *?
I'm assuming he meant illegal? :bush:
 
I have a serious question that has been gnawing at me lately. Fox news goes out of its way to let their "News Anchors" participate in this Tea Bagging thing, right? Promotes it on the network, calls it FNC Tea Party Protests and all. Hannity, Cavuto, Beck, Van Susteren, etc., all participate in these protests.

My question is this- Who can seriously say that these people don't deserve the general :eyeroll: from the media? Can you imagine if Olbermann or Matthews attended one of these rallies as a speaker? Anchors from ABC? CBS? I really think the outrage would be well deserved if they did (you can hold me to it).
 
TeKeo said:
I'm assuming he meant illegal?
Then they should call them Illegal and don't try and pussyfoot around the issue. Going to NC State, the protests over at UNC have been a big deal, but I hadn't heard the reason until today when gas linked the article. Heaven forbid someone should actually speak out against giving money to people who shouldn't be attending our Universities because they shouldn't even be in our country.

Glad those idiots at Chapel Hill reminded me why I decided not to apply there.
 
Covar said:
TeKeo said:
I'm assuming he meant illegal?
Then they should call them Illegal and don't try and pussyfoot around the issue. Going to NC State, the protests over at UNC have been a big deal, but I hadn't heard the reason until today when gas linked the article. Heaven forbid someone should actually speak out against giving money to people who shouldn't be attending our Universities because they shouldn't even be in our country.

Glad those idiots at Chapel Hill reminded me why I decided not to apply there.
Oh, because kids have a choice over whether their parents take them across the border or not? And it's not like you're just GIVING them money - the idea would be to charging them less for college. Moreover, states provide money to state colleges through things like sales and property taxes (I don't specifically know about NC). Illegals pay those taxes just like everyone else - why shouldn't they get the benifits? Finally, shouldn't we be encouraging everyone to get a college education?

However, I agree that saying "unauthorized" instead of illegal is just plain stupid.
 
Dieb said:
Covar said:
TeKeo said:
I'm assuming he meant illegal?
Then they should call them Illegal and don't try and pussyfoot around the issue. Going to NC State, the protests over at UNC have been a big deal, but I hadn't heard the reason until today when gas linked the article. Heaven forbid someone should actually speak out against giving money to people who shouldn't be attending our Universities because they shouldn't even be in our country.

Glad those idiots at Chapel Hill reminded me why I decided not to apply there.
Oh, because kids have a choice over whether their parents take them across the border or not? And it's not like you're just GIVING them money - the idea would be to charging them less for college. Moreover, states provide money to state colleges through things like sales and property taxes (I don't specifically know about NC). Illegals pay those taxes just like everyone else - why shouldn't they get the benifits? Finally, shouldn't we be encouraging everyone to get a college education?

However, I agree that saying "unauthorized" instead of illegal is just plain stupid.
Yeah, but then they'll take our JERBS!

This is hilarious(not partisan, but politically funny).
 
Dieb said:
Oh, because kids have a choice over whether their parents take them across the border or not? And it's not like you're just GIVING them money - the idea would be to charging them less for college. Moreover, states provide money to state colleges through things like sales and property taxes (I don't specifically know about NC). Illegals pay those taxes just like everyone else - why shouldn't they get the benifits? Finally, shouldn't we be encouraging everyone to get a college education?

However, I agree that saying "unauthorized" instead of illegal is just plain stupid.
They're illegals. Paying direct taxes would alert the government of their presence.

It could go this way. "Leave your name, your current address, your money and we'll prepare to deport you to your homeland."

Look. They're probably second generation immigrants. Their parents have no money and can't give them a proper education otherwise. I understand all that. But if you're going to give scholarships and student loans, you do not allocate it based on race or nationality. Giving benefits based on that will stir up plenty of bile.

And then there's the children of legal citizens. Under the assumption that a legal citizen and an illegal citizen are both similarly bright and in similar need of help, who gets the priority?

Edit: Come to think about it. Malaysia gave citizenship status to plenty of illegals. The percentage of people disgruntled with the national government was increasing. So, the government just made more citizens. The government gave the illegals citizenship and voting rights, along with the reminder that they should be grateful and vote for the government's ruling party.
 
T

The Mike

I don't know if this fits here, I assume it does, but what do you think about Obama's visit to my belove Country, could this really be the beginning of a cooperative fight to reduce the power of the drug cartels?
 
T

The Mike

Then I hope the violence spills over to your side of the border until you have to deal with the problem :humph:
 
Krisken said:
I have a serious question that has been gnawing at me lately. Fox news goes out of its way to let their "News Anchors" participate in this Tea Bagging thing, right? Promotes it on the network, calls it FNC Tea Party Protests and all. Hannity, Cavuto, Beck, Van Susteren, etc., all participate in these protests.

My question is this- Who can seriously say that these people don't deserve the general :eyeroll: from the media? Can you imagine if Olbermann or Matthews attended one of these rallies as a speaker? Anchors from ABC? CBS? I really think the outrage would be well deserved if they did (you can hold me to it).
I think it goes a long way in showing how "fair and balanced" they are. This whole issue has really shown how biased the news networks are. MSNBC has shown their colors by equating the tea parties to tea bagging. I'm not saying it isn't funny, but it seems a bit childish coming from what is supposed to be a serious news station. Leave that to the Stewarts and Colberts and try actually reporting on whats going on instead of taking potshots at people.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
The Mike said:
Then I hope the violence spills over to your side of the border until you have to deal with the problem :humph:
The only real way for us to "deal with the problem" will be to head south of the border ourselves and blow the shit out of your northern provinces. Is that what you really want? Northern Mexico to become "New Fallujah?" To lose face to the international community by surrendering your national sovereignity and de facto acknowledge that your country is a diseased, rotting carcass rife with the cancer of corruption only being kept alive by its parasitic nature, sucking the lifeblood from its northern neighbor?

We'll be sure to get some amateur footage of Juarez ghettos being flattened by M1A1s.
 
GasBandit said:
The Mike said:
Then I hope the violence spills over to your side of the border until you have to deal with the problem :humph:
The only real way for us to "deal with the problem" will be to head south of the border ourselves and blow the * out of your northern provinces. Is that what you really want? Northern Mexico to become "New Fallujah?" To lose face to the international community by surrendering your national sovereignity and de facto acknowledge that your country is a diseased, rotting carcass rife with the cancer of corruption only being kept alive by its parasitic nature, sucking the lifeblood from its northern neighbor?

We'll be sure to get some amateur footage of Juarez ghettos being flattened by M1A1s.
There is a possibility of that happening.

Mexico produces corn, which is converted into ethanol, an energy source
Mexico has drug cartel problems
America invades Mexico to destroy drug cartel, which according to reports, finances Al Qaeda and has WMDs.

???

Profit
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Time for links -

Apparently most Americans blame the media for our current economic situation.

Janet Napolitano has now decided that she will apologize to veterans after the report says that troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan were at risk of being recruited by right-wing extremists.

A homeland security official says that when the report was sent to the office of civil rights and civil liberties, that it rejected some of the language in the report. But clearly the agency issued it anyway, and it is now being attributed to "a breakdown of the agency's internal process." Gee, ya think?

John Zeigler went to ask questions outside an event hosted by USC's Annenberg School of Journalism. The event was a ceremony honoring Katie Couric with the Walter Cronkite Award for Excellence in Journalism. I know, I know ... you can stop laughing. So at this event, hosted by a journalism school, to honor excellence in journalism, take a look at what happens to John Zeigler.

Democrats in Texas are upset with Governor Rick Perry for discussing the idea of secession at a tea party rally.

Dianne Feinstein is going to investigate indications of new wiretap violations by the NSA.

Eric Holder has decided that he is not going to prosecute CIA agents for using waterboarding on terrorist suspects.

Ohio wants to replace laid-off janitors at the statehouse with prison inmates. The union has something to say about this.

One out of every ten people born in Mexico lives in the United States.

US regulators are slowly releasing details about their bank "stress tests," to try and figure out how our financial sector is truly doing.

How much money does it cost the states to spend federal stimulus money? Yeah, spending money to spend money.

A lawsuit has been filed by Bloomberg to expose the $2 trillion in bank loans that are being made in "secrecy."

Someone in Missouri is facing up to a year in prison for posting a photo of his ballot for mayor online.

Better watch what I say, don't want to be called on "obama bashing."
 
GasBandit said:
The Mike said:
Then I hope the violence spills over to your side of the border until you have to deal with the problem :humph:
The only real way for us to "deal with the problem" will be to head south of the border ourselves and blow the * out of your northern provinces. Is that what you really want? Northern Mexico to become "New Fallujah?" To lose face to the international community by surrendering your national sovereignity and de facto acknowledge that your country is a diseased, rotting carcass rife with the cancer of corruption only being kept alive by its parasitic nature, sucking the lifeblood from its northern neighbor?

We'll be sure to get some amateur footage of Juarez ghettos being flattened by M1A1s.
So do you have any *realistic* ideas, jackass?

The first thing I thought of when I heard about the death threats at a university in Nagadoches, TX was that the cartels *were* bringing the violence full-bore to this side of the border. If the status quo remains, it's going to happen. El Paso's going to suffer the same fate as Juarez.

But then, if Gov. Perry has any balls at all, it won't be a U.S. problem. It'll be a "Republic of Texas" problem, and I'll gleefully be able to say, "Son, you're on your own."
 
DarkAudit said:
GasBandit said:
The Mike said:
Then I hope the violence spills over to your side of the border until you have to deal with the problem :humph:
The only real way for us to "deal with the problem" will be to head south of the border ourselves and blow the * out of your northern provinces. Is that what you really want? Northern Mexico to become "New Fallujah?" To lose face to the international community by surrendering your national sovereignity and de facto acknowledge that your country is a diseased, rotting carcass rife with the cancer of corruption only being kept alive by its parasitic nature, sucking the lifeblood from its northern neighbor?

We'll be sure to get some amateur footage of Juarez ghettos being flattened by M1A1s.
So do you have any *realistic* ideas, *?
Son, maybe you haven't met GasBandit but I'm pretty sure that IS his realist idea. :sobad:
 
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