Arstechnica has a link to the actual bill in their article. I didn't want to directly link it since they are hosting it. It's 50 pages long, but I think they use size 25 font. It's making me dizzy trying to read it.Krisken said:
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Thanks Shakey. Ugh, I don't know if I have time to read all this.Shakey said:
I don't trust the usual suspects (biased web sites) to give me the lowdown on what is actually in this. The Ars Technica article says part of it covers some private concerns regarded as critical infrastructure which can be turned off in response to a cyber attack. It's strange that they don't list turning off the internet if that is indeed proposed in the bill.
It looks like the main point of it is to be able to shutdown private businesses, like large banks and contractors working on stuff that may have confidential information. That doesn't mean that they couldn't say that the big ISP's that control backbone infrastructure are included. That would allow them to cut off large chunks of internet access.Krisken said:
The problem with this and with warrantless anything is that there are no checks and balances and we will most likely never know if it is being used properly. National security and all that.
Oh boy, you do NOT understand military budgets. First of all, as Krisken said, Obama is actually increasing the overall military budget. However, you could easily cut the military budget without laying off any soldiers. How? Much (most? I'm not sure the exact figure) of the budget goes to researching and building hardwear. A lot of money is wasted on hardwear that, quite frankly, the military doesn't need.Futureking said:
In Obama and Gate's budget, the Army and Marines will actually increase their total number of soldiers. The Navy and Airforce will not cut the number of their personel (as Bush had planned to do). Obama is stopping the production of F-22 fighter planes in 2011 (as discussed earlier) and killing the Navy's stealth ship program, but he's increasing the production of drone planes and close in land support ships. Basically, the details of any defense budget matter a whole lot; you can't just look at the topline number (although again, Obama is increasing that topline number).
Yea, that's seems creepy. Hopefully it won't pass. I just don't see why the President would need that power
Oh, and on wiretapping? I'll repeat the same old argument. If you aren't doing something wrong or particularly suspicious, you have no real reason to fear.[/quote]
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Until they shut down those pesky interwebs :slywink:GasBandit said:Or, VOIP for the win
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Al Sharpton has decided to call for Sheriff Arpaio's resignation.
Attorney General Eric Holder has his latest marching orders from the Senate: sue any states that aren't helping the needy register to vote.
Colorado is considering a bill that would create a single-payer healthcare plan. The bill would establish a 23-member commission that would design a universal health insurance system. The bill itself does not include funding for the authority, which means that it would have to rely on private donations in order to function.
A Chinese national is smuggling nuclear weapons materials to Iran from New York banks?
Reality hits the Obama Express.
What we learned from Obama's Spring Break
UN climate talks have stalled because richer countries can't agree to cut carbon emissions and poorer countries want more money.
Jonah Goldberg says that Obama's worst bailout thus far has been that of the United Nations Human Rights Council.
Attorney General Eric Holder has his latest marching orders from the Senate: sue any states that aren't helping the needy register to vote.
Colorado is considering a bill that would create a single-payer healthcare plan. The bill would establish a 23-member commission that would design a universal health insurance system. The bill itself does not include funding for the authority, which means that it would have to rely on private donations in order to function.
A Chinese national is smuggling nuclear weapons materials to Iran from New York banks?
Reality hits the Obama Express.
What we learned from Obama's Spring Break
UN climate talks have stalled because richer countries can't agree to cut carbon emissions and poorer countries want more money.
Jonah Goldberg says that Obama's worst bailout thus far has been that of the United Nations Human Rights Council.
Yeah, I put 2 and 2 together and erased my original answer of 5.Espy said:I was just joking since his name sounds like Jonah HillKrisken said:I deleted my stupidity. Now I'm looking at the actor list of Superbad actors.Espy said:Hey, I loved him in Superbad.Krisken said:
What?
I actually found a good article in Newsweek
Thought I would share. Sure its a puff piece but an interesting puff piece.
Thought I would share. Sure its a puff piece but an interesting puff piece.
Texas representative thinks Chinese immigrants should change their names to be easier for Americans to pronounce.
Sorry for the left leaning site (I think it is, anyways, from the reading), but I'm having a very hard time finding the story on the more neutral sites. Apparently, they don't find it newsworthy.
Sorry for the left leaning site (I think it is, anyways, from the reading), but I'm having a very hard time finding the story on the more neutral sites. Apparently, they don't find it newsworthy.
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I don't find that story hard to believe. This is getting to be my catch phrase; "There's no bureaucrat like a Texas bureaucrat." Remember, the man responsible for the creation of the Welfare state was so Texan he still wore his cowboy hat as president.
You'll be happy to know that our own government can't tell you, the taxpayers, how much of the $700 billion bank bailout will be spent.
Victor Davis Hanson has his latest column on the politics of blame. Everyone in Washington is pointing fingers, and no one is responsible. Maybe you, the voters, are responsible because you elected these people.
New Air America host Montel Williams wants Newt Gingrich to "shut up" before he starts a nuclear war.
China is becoming the world's largest car market, surpassing the United States for the third month in a row.
You know times are tough when Nevada state legislatures call hookers to the state capitol to debate whether or not their profession should be taxed.
Government schools in Texas are considering an alternative grading system that would not dock grades for cheating or late assignments.
Take a look at what France is doing in order to combat Internet piracy. Coming soon to the United States?
What happens when a country decriminalizes drugs? Take a look at what happened in Portugal after five years.
You'll be happy to know that our own government can't tell you, the taxpayers, how much of the $700 billion bank bailout will be spent.
Victor Davis Hanson has his latest column on the politics of blame. Everyone in Washington is pointing fingers, and no one is responsible. Maybe you, the voters, are responsible because you elected these people.
New Air America host Montel Williams wants Newt Gingrich to "shut up" before he starts a nuclear war.
China is becoming the world's largest car market, surpassing the United States for the third month in a row.
You know times are tough when Nevada state legislatures call hookers to the state capitol to debate whether or not their profession should be taxed.
Government schools in Texas are considering an alternative grading system that would not dock grades for cheating or late assignments.
Take a look at what France is doing in order to combat Internet piracy. Coming soon to the United States?
What happens when a country decriminalizes drugs? Take a look at what happened in Portugal after five years.
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Promising. Which ones did they actually decriminalise, and which ones saw a drop in usage due to the availability of legal alternatives?GasBandit said:
Now, now, don't underestimate our current congress. This kind of stupidity sounds right up their alley.Shakey said:
Did I read it right that it says that someone will simply look at download rates and such and decide whether or not they THINK you are downloading pirated material? That they won't even really know? Seriously? I must have misread that...
Apparently, F-22's should be used to stop pirates. I swear, this had me giggling.
Oh, and did I mention, the guy who said F22's should be used for this worked as a consultant for Northrop Grunman, a major contractor for F22's?FTA said:
Wow, why would anybody vote for Spencer Bachus? Channeling McCarthy, he has made a secret list of members of the House who are "Socialists".Kooky.
First of all....oh Texas *sighs* But secondly, come on, we all know FDR started the welfare state, even if it was LBJ who greatly expanded itGasBandit said:
Wow. Just....wow. It's not like we're having a problem with the military might that these pirates have. When we find a pirate ship, they just surrender. The problem is not being able to tell which ships are used by the pirates until they've boarded civilian ships and therefore have hostages, in which case F-22s would be worse than useless.Krisken said:
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So? This is just an opportunity to make more $.TeKeo said:
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I never said it was a good opportunity. They have to make aneffort, right?TeKeo said:
Rachel Maddow talks about theTea-bagging parties being advocated by disgruntled right wingers. It's obvious she knows the current connotation of what tea-bagging is.
They're basically doing what they are doing now. It's just the government would have a bigger role in it. Music/movie companies will hire outside companies to search for pirated movies, and report it to the government. They would then send it on to the ISP to either send out a warning or suspend them. The best part is this though:Espy said:
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So basically everyone would have government issued security software that they keep constant track of.
This reminds me of a joke.Krisken said:
Bu, Chu, & Fu went from China to America to get jobs. Their boss decided to give them American names for the sake of pronunciation.
Bu was given the name Buck. Chu was given the name Chuck. And Fu was sent back to China.
Franken has won the latest court case for the Mn Senate seat, and is now ahead by 312 votes. That's more than he had before Coleman challenged him. Don't worry, Coleman says he'll challenge to the states supreme court. Looks like we'll be one senator short for a while longer.
Fidel Castro is asking to have the sanctions lifted after Obama had them loosened.
Is it time to play nice with Cuba? We openly trade with China, Russia and Vietnam. We even fought wars against them, even if for Russia by proxy.
I want real sugar in my Coke again...
Is it time to play nice with Cuba? We openly trade with China, Russia and Vietnam. We even fought wars against them, even if for Russia by proxy.
I want real sugar in my Coke again...
We really can't say that we don't deal with Cuba only on the Human toll from the Castro regime. We deal with all sorts of bad people. This is an archaic leftover of the cold war.sixpackshaker said:
Besides, a lot of what went on there with Castro was basically due to our bungling of such wonderful things as assassination attempts and cold war bullying. We helped keep Castro in power by being the common enemy.
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