Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats

Necronic

Necronic

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Terrik said:
A CNN host standing up for an assaulted woman.

No wait, the opposite of that.
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Is this the first you have heard of that party? Because when I read a story about it last week it came across more like she was super drunk at some birthday party causing problems, was asked to leave, and then started a fight, which she then lost spectacularly. I don't know what the real story is, but man, that family is something else when it comes to generating drama. They're like a white trash version of the Kennedys.[DOUBLEPOST=1414603053,1414602756][/DOUBLEPOST]Here's the story I read. I think

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sara...ly-alaska-house-party-brawl/story?id=25452917[DOUBLEPOST=1414603192][/DOUBLEPOST]Here's the full story

http://amandacoyne.com/politics/eyewitness-comes-forward-on-palin-brawl/
 
Frank

Frank

Did you know that there is no lawful consent when it comes to physically harmful activity in Canada. A punch to the face or choking for example, no matter what, is a crime. So, I don't have all the details, but I'm guessing Jian went further with a lot of these women than they were comfortable with.

I don't see how CBC had a choice but to let him go, either way.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Letting him go was probably the best choice they had. It was going to be a PR nightmare if he continued to have one of their top shows.

Also, CBC News just broke some interesting news: Ghomeshi's PR firm, Navigator, no longer represents him.

So yeah, I expect a major shit storm is coming down on him very soon. If the allegations are true, then it couldn't've happened to a nicer guy.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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This video has been making the rounds, to raise awareness for street harassment.



It only follows naturally that this video would follow to illustrate the problem of street privilege.

 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

GasBandit said:
This video has been making the rounds, to raise awareness for street harassment.



It only follows naturally that this video would follow to illustrate the problem of street privilege.

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While street harassment is an issue and a lot of what goes on in the original video ranges from rude to creepy, a few people are just saying hi or have a nice day. Now, we all knowwhy, it's not out of the goodness of hearts, but I don't think being spoken to at all counts as harassment, either under the law or as a definition. When you're out in public, you might be spoken to. Otherwise, I would be guaranteed peaceful commutes to work every day instead of people preaching to me, asking me out, or criticizing my skills at Mega Man 5 (I wish I was making that up).
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Zero Esc said:
While street harassment is an issue and a lot of what goes on in the original video ranges from rude to creepy, a few people are just saying hi or have a nice day. Now, we all knowwhy, it's not out of the goodness of hearts, but I don't think being spoken to at all counts as harassment, either under the law or as a definition. When you're out in public, you might be spoken to. Otherwise, I would be guaranteed peaceful commutes to work every day instead of people preaching to me, asking me out, or criticizing my skills at Mega Man 5 (I wish I was making that up).
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Didn't you know? Being greeted by people you consider unattractive is just a bee's wingflap short of sexual assault.
 
Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Zero Esc said:
While street harassment is an issue and a lot of what goes on in the original video ranges from rude to creepy, a few people are just saying hi or have a nice day. Now, we all knowwhy, it's not out of the goodness of hearts, but I don't think being spoken to at all counts as harassment, either under the law or as a definition. When you're out in public, you might be spoken to. Otherwise, I would be guaranteed peaceful commutes to work every day instead of people preaching to me, asking me out, or criticizing my skills at Mega Man 5 (I wish I was making that up).
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You were clearly using the wrong powerups! Step your game up, man!

Some of the things shown in that walking video are clearly harrassing, creepy, and a few even scary and threatening.

Some are complete non events.

Both being included in the cut makes for a weird duality.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Ravenpoe said:
You were clearly using the wrong powerups! Step your game up, man!
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"Gyro Man, huh? That was a long time ago for me."
"You don't have any weapons yet? Yeah, you can beat him with the buster, but you have to do better than that."
"No, jump. Not like that, there."
"No, go to the side. Come on, man. Nope. Nope. Wrong."

All this while his head rested on the back of my seat, looking over my shoulder. Then we got off at the same stop and I hoped he wasn't going to follow me. (He did not.)

Come to think of it, maybe that was harassment, just not sexually.
 
SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Zero Esc said:
While street harassment is an issue and a lot of what goes on in the original video ranges from rude to creepy, a few people are just saying hi or have a nice day. Now, we all knowwhy, it's not out of the goodness of hearts, but I don't think being spoken to at all counts as harassment, either under the law or as a definition.
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It's not really harassment, but in NYC it *is* considered extremely rude, invasive behavior. If you said hey to everyone you pass in NYC, you would be greeting a million people (not really an exaggeration) every single day. Thus, if someone is greeting you like that out of the blue, they want something.
 
Covar

Covar

Ravenpoe said:
You were clearly using the wrong powerups! Step your game up, man!

Some of the things shown in that walking video are clearly harrassing, creepy, and a few even scary and threatening.

Some are complete non events.

Both being included in the cut makes for a weird duality.
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It kind of weakens the video too. I know after about the third street vendor trying to get her attention I began checking out.
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

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SpecialKO said:
It's not really harassment, but in NYC it *is* considered extremely rude, invasive behavior. If you said hey to everyone you pass in NYC, you would be greeting a million people (not really an exaggeration) every single day. Thus, if someone is greeting you like that out of the blue, they want something.
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This is an important distinction that I don't think is brought into the discussion often enough. Talking to a stranger is a very different thing in a major city, than it is in a suburb, or on a small college campus. Context is important, but too often statements are made as hyperbole and generalizations that miss the important points that would aid a broader understanding. Not everyone lives in a major metropolitan area, and thus don't may not readily understand that perspective. Alternatively, some people have only, ever lived in a major city, and don't bother to think about how different it is when the population isn't as densely packed.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

figmentPez said:
This is an important distinction that I don't think is brought into the discussion often enough. Talking to a stranger is a very different thing in a major city, than it is in a suburb, or on a small college campus. Context is important, but too often statements are made as hyperbole and generalizations that miss the important points that would aid a broader understanding. Not everyone lives in a major metropolitan area, and thus don't may not readily understand that perspective. Alternatively, some people have only, ever lived in a major city, and don't bother to think about how different it is when the population isn't as densely packed.
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Good point for both sides. Silence in one context is considered rude, while talking in another can be considered rude.

SpecialKO said:
It's not really harassment, but in NYC it *is* considered extremely rude, invasive behavior. If you said hey to everyone you pass in NYC, you would be greeting a million people (not really an exaggeration) every single day. Thus, if someone is greeting you like that out of the blue, they want something.
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True. On a subway with my friend and her boyfriend once, this guy came up talking to us, asking about our day, making jokes about how crowded it was. I thought he was being nice--then he gets into his website and comedy shows and handing us his card ... yeah. Friend and boyfriend spotted it a mile away though, but even he admitted hoping the guy wasn't selling something.
 
SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Zero Esc said:
True. On a subway with my friend and her boyfriend once, this guy came up talking to us, asking about our day, making jokes about how crowded it was. I thought he was being nice--then he gets into his website and comedy shows and handing us his card ... yeah. Friend and boyfriend spotted it a mile away though, but even he admitted hoping the guy wasn't selling something.
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Admittedly, sometimes people are just harmless and lonely. A friend of mine and I were once interrupted by a guy on the subway who had heard us talking about Benedict Cumberbatch as Khan, and he just really wanted to talk about Trekkers as a community and which series was his favorite. It was kind of awkward because we had not a clue who he was and he just started talking to us, but it seemed like he didn't have any friends who were into Trek and really wanted to talk to people who shared his affectation for it.
 
Chad Sexington

Chad Sexington

figmentPez said:
This is an important distinction that I don't think is brought into the discussion often enough. Talking to a stranger is a very different thing in a major city, than it is in a suburb, or on a small college campus. Context is important, but too often statements are made as hyperbole and generalizations that miss the important points that would aid a broader understanding. Not everyone lives in a major metropolitan area, and thus don't may not readily understand that perspective. Alternatively, some people have only, ever lived in a major city, and don't bother to think about how different it is when the population isn't as densely packed.
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There was a good joke about a guy from rural England walking with his friend from London, and they passed a third guy, so the rural fellow said, "Good afternoon!" and the Londoner said, "Well, who was that, then?"
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Heh, I didn't comment on the race angle because, silly me, I thought the woman in question looked vaguely hispanic.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

Tomorrow, November 3, 2014, the state of Wisconsin goes to the polls in the most divisive election in state history.

Any pundit having a claim of knowing what the heck is going to happen is just blowing smoke for their side of the fence.
 
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