Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats

We knew YEARS ago that people in the USA know absolutely nothing about anything outside their borders:


Also, I personally met somebody in San Francisco who "appeared" normal who had never heard of Canada, and thought there was "nothing" north of the USA, that the map was blank, and therefore nothing. That's the most extreme case of knowing nothing, but there are others.

So that Tehran thing doesn't even register for me.
 

GasBandit

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Ok.... yeah.... right.... yeah, Republicans dropped the ball.... ok, maybe "Communist dictator" is a bit hyperbolic.... wait, tried to nuke Charleston? What...?



Santorum's response to her: "Uh, I'm not a Senator anymore, soooo...."
 

GasBandit

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Because there's no better way to embrace the 21st Century than with a man with a mindset from the 19th Century.
I prefer the last quarter of the 18th century, myself.

No mistake, I'll still be voting Libertarian out of principle, and I don't think Cruz will make it out of the primary, but I hope his participation forces the other candidates to the right. Frankly, I think the federal shutdown he gets "blamed" for (which still left 83% of the federal government operating, in actuality) didn't go on long enough (or actually shut down enough). I don't agree with all his politics - particularly his social policy - but it'd go a long way toward reestablishing the Republican party as the party of fiscal conservatives if he got the nomination, and it'd go a long way toward getting America back to work if by some miracle he won the election. I can only imagine the wailing and rending of garments in the legislature when they're confronted with actual budget cuts - not just "not as big a budget increase as we wanted" cuts.
 

GasBandit

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Let me just save a few pages of posts now by summarizing what happened the last time Voter ID laws were brought up in this thread - I and a couple others support it saying it's just common sense fraud prevention, some others oppose it saying that getting a photo ID is too much of an undue burden on the poor to be expected, and the Canadians wonder what the fuss is about since they've always had to show ID to vote nationwide.
 
And let me save you a few minutes with the counter- You have to give the voter id's away for free and make them easily available to everyone, meaning you shouldn't have to go to a building at weird hours to make it possible. Any time you put a tax on voting, you are hurting democracy to fix a problem which doesn't exist. You have a better chance of falling out of bed and dying than finding a case of voting fraud by individuals.

Edit: What Gas said


Mark my words, this is bad for the state. On the bright side, Walker and his team have one less issue to rally the morons of the state to which has no benefit to the people of Wisconsin.
 
Let me just save a few pages of posts now by summarizing what happened the last time Voter ID laws were brought up in this thread - I and a couple others support it saying it's just common sense fraud prevention, some others oppose it saying that getting a photo ID is too much of an undue burden on the poor to be expected, and the Canadians wonder what the fuss is about since they've always had to show ID to vote nationwide.
Basically. It's one of the few topics I'd be loathed to talk about here again because it just goes nowhere.[DOUBLEPOST=1427153456,1427153351][/DOUBLEPOST]
And let me save you a few minutes with the counter- You have to give the voter id's away for free and make them easily available to everyone, meaning you shouldn't have to go to a building at weird hours to make it possible. Any time you put a tax on voting, you are hurting democracy to fix a problem which doesn't exist. You have a better chance of falling out of bed and dying than finding a case of voting fraud by individuals.
And that's all that needs to be said about the other side.

Really, this topic bores me because there really is no complexity to it at all. You want to people to have IDs for voting? Give them to them, for free.
 

GasBandit

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And let me save you a few minutes with the counter- You have to give the voter id's away for free and make them easily available to everyone, meaning you shouldn't have to go to a building at weird hours to make it possible. Any time you put a tax on voting, you are hurting democracy to fix a problem which doesn't exist. You have a better chance of falling out of bed and dying than finding a case of voting fraud by individuals.

Mark my words, this is bad for the state. On the bright side, Walker and his team have one less issue to rally the morons of the state to which has no benefit to the people of Wisconsin.
Then remind me to start sleeping on the floor.

The biggest myth about voter fraud is that it doesn't exist.

/so much for saving us pages, here we go again![DOUBLEPOST=1427153638,1427153536][/DOUBLEPOST]
Really, this topic bores me because there really is no complexity to it at all. You want to people to have IDs for voting? Give them to them, for free.
The vast, vast majority (near totality) already have them. Because they couldn't WAIT to get them so they could drive, or buy liqour, or get into the nightclub, or any of the other hundred things for which a functioning adult has to have a government photo ID.
 
Then remind me to start sleeping on the floor.

The biggest myth about voter fraud is that it doesn't exist.

/so much for saving us pages, here we go again![DOUBLEPOST=1427153638,1427153536][/DOUBLEPOST]

The vast, vast majority (near totality) already have them. Because they couldn't WAIT to get them so they could drive, or buy liqour, or get into the nightclub.
Nope, not going round and round, especially over what you laughably supplies as a 'source'.
 

GasBandit

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Nope, not going round and round, especially over what you laughably supplies as a 'source'.
The fun thing about the Heritage Foundation is it documents its sources, and they're usually government documents.

You could check page 22 of the link I posted. Or I suppose you could haughtily plug your ears and stroll away laughing as usual.
 
The fun thing about the Heritage Foundation is it documents its sources, and they're usually government documents.

You could check page 22 of the link I posted. Or I suppose you could haughtily plug your ears and stroll away laughing as usual.
I'd rather play Diablo than look for information you won't believe anyways.

And yes, I laugh. Haughtily.
 

GasBandit

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I'd rather play Diablo than look for information you won't believe anyways.

And yes, I laugh. Haughtily.
I imagine you tilting your head slightly back, then turning to the side, pressing your lips into the knuckles of your upraised hand, your elbow straight out to the side, the heel of your palm forward, fingers progressively curled from an almost straight index finger to an almost completely curled pinky. With heavily lidded eyes, you titter with hidden mouth. Your other hand swishes to the side, as if guiding an unseen cloak out of your path. "Ohohohohoh" you breathily cachinnate, as you stride forth ostentatiously with deliberate hesitations immediately at the placement of each foot, as if parading yourself before the lesser beings who dare use sources that disagree with you.

This is why I like politics.
 
I imagine you tilting your head slightly back, then turning to the side, pressing your lips into the knuckles of your upraised hand, your elbow straight out to the side, the heel of your palm forward, fingers progressively curled from an almost straight index finger to an almost completely curled pinky. With heavily lidded eyes, you titter with hidden mouth. Your other hand swishes to the side, as if guiding an unseen cloak out of your path. "Ohohohohoh" you breathily cachinnate, as you stride forth ostentatiously with deliberate hesitations immediately at the placement of each foot, as if parading yourself before the lesser beings who dare use sources that disagree with you.

This is why I like politics.
No, I've just done this before. Don't you get tired of going over the same crap over and over again? Don't you ever think to yourself "Wow, I could have done anything productive than argue with another mouth breather on the internet"?

The image is funny, though.

I should add, though, that last presidential election there were 3 reported instances of voter fraud in Wisconsin. Two were felons who weren't supposed to vote and one was a Republican. That there is a great use of resources.
 

GasBandit

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No, I've just done this before. Don't you get tired of going over the same crap over and over again? Don't you ever think to yourself "Wow, I could have done anything productive than argue with another mouth breather on the internet"?

The image is funny, though.
It's this or cat pictures, man. The way things are for me these days, this almost counts as cardio.
 
Hey, at least Oregon is taking steps in the right direction.
MI has the registration+license bundle, but they are still opt-in. They ask, "Would you also like to register to vote?" when renewing your license, while it sounds like OR will force you to state that you want to opt out if you wish to skip registration.

--Patrick
 
Hey, at least Oregon is taking steps in the right direction.
MI has the registration+license bundle, but they are still opt-in. They ask, "Would you also like to register to vote?" when renewing your license, while it sounds like OR will force you to state that you want to opt out if you wish to skip registration.

--Patrick
relevant: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo_bias[DOUBLEPOST=1427162765,1427162406][/DOUBLEPOST]For @PatrThom: People demonstrate a clear bias towards leaving things as they are. If you give people the chance to opt in for organ donation, only a small percentage will (10-20%). If you make it opt out, the inverse occurs (10-20% opt out). So choosing to make anything opt in or opt out matters greatly. This is, by the way, why registering for anything requires you often uncheck, rather than check, a box to receive junk mail ads about their product.
 
In before Yoko sues the ever livin' shit out of Ted Cruz. His theme song was "Imagine". Cruz is the opposite of everything Lennon stood for. Instead of granting permission to use the song, it's a safe bet that John would've punched ol' Ted squarely in the mouth.
 
I take umbrage with claiming "Canadians" don't see the issue with voter registration. Anyone from any part of the civilized world doesn't see the issue. :p :trolol:
 
relevant: People demonstrate a clear bias towards leaving things as they are. If you give people the chance to opt in for organ donation, only a small percentage will (10-20%). If you make it opt out, the inverse occurs (10-20% opt out). So choosing to make anything opt in or opt out matters greatly. This is, by the way, why registering for anything requires you often uncheck, rather than check, a box to receive junk mail ads about their product.
I got that part, I just thought you were somehow saying something about Oregonians or Michiganders in particular.
Knowing the name for that is handy, though. I'll probably use it later.

--Patrick
 
Sometimes I get angry or annoyed about SJW bullshit, and then I remember that powerless pissants screaming into an echo chamber on social media aren't really important. We should just ignore these idiots and move on.
 
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