GasBandit
Staff member
If only we did.Next he'll be saying that America controls Washington D.C.!
Hah! What a disaster that would be, eh?
--Patrick
If only we did.Next he'll be saying that America controls Washington D.C.!
Hah! What a disaster that would be, eh?
--Patrick
Good that they learn that early.Submitted without comment:
New Hampshire Lawmakers show 4th Graders how Government Works
GOD that audio pop in the beginning... does that happen to anyone else?Good that they learn that early.
Yes. Ow.GOD that audio pop in the beginning... does that happen to anyone else?
Because there's no better way to embrace the 21st Century than with a man with a mindset from the 19th Century.
I prefer the last quarter of the 18th century, myself.Because there's no better way to embrace the 21st Century than with a man with a mindset from the 19th Century.
Basically. It's one of the few topics I'd be loathed to talk about here again because it just goes nowhere.[DOUBLEPOST=1427153456,1427153351][/DOUBLEPOST]Let me just save a few pages of posts now by summarizing what happened the last time Voter ID laws were brought up in this thread - I and a couple others support it saying it's just common sense fraud prevention, some others oppose it saying that getting a photo ID is too much of an undue burden on the poor to be expected, and the Canadians wonder what the fuss is about since they've always had to show ID to vote nationwide.
And that's all that needs to be said about the other side.And let me save you a few minutes with the counter- You have to give the voter id's away for free and make them easily available to everyone, meaning you shouldn't have to go to a building at weird hours to make it possible. Any time you put a tax on voting, you are hurting democracy to fix a problem which doesn't exist. You have a better chance of falling out of bed and dying than finding a case of voting fraud by individuals.
Then remind me to start sleeping on the floor.And let me save you a few minutes with the counter- You have to give the voter id's away for free and make them easily available to everyone, meaning you shouldn't have to go to a building at weird hours to make it possible. Any time you put a tax on voting, you are hurting democracy to fix a problem which doesn't exist. You have a better chance of falling out of bed and dying than finding a case of voting fraud by individuals.
Mark my words, this is bad for the state. On the bright side, Walker and his team have one less issue to rally the morons of the state to which has no benefit to the people of Wisconsin.
The vast, vast majority (near totality) already have them. Because they couldn't WAIT to get them so they could drive, or buy liqour, or get into the nightclub, or any of the other hundred things for which a functioning adult has to have a government photo ID.Really, this topic bores me because there really is no complexity to it at all. You want to people to have IDs for voting? Give them to them, for free.
Nope, not going round and round, especially over what you laughably supplies as a 'source'.Then remind me to start sleeping on the floor.
The biggest myth about voter fraud is that it doesn't exist.
/so much for saving us pages, here we go again![DOUBLEPOST=1427153638,1427153536][/DOUBLEPOST]
The vast, vast majority (near totality) already have them. Because they couldn't WAIT to get them so they could drive, or buy liqour, or get into the nightclub.
The fun thing about the Heritage Foundation is it documents its sources, and they're usually government documents.Nope, not going round and round, especially over what you laughably supplies as a 'source'.
I'd rather play Diablo than look for information you won't believe anyways.The fun thing about the Heritage Foundation is it documents its sources, and they're usually government documents.
You could check page 22 of the link I posted. Or I suppose you could haughtily plug your ears and stroll away laughing as usual.
I imagine you tilting your head slightly back, then turning to the side, pressing your lips into the knuckles of your upraised hand, your elbow straight out to the side, the heel of your palm forward, fingers progressively curled from an almost straight index finger to an almost completely curled pinky. With heavily lidded eyes, you titter with hidden mouth. Your other hand swishes to the side, as if guiding an unseen cloak out of your path. "Ohohohohoh" you breathily cachinnate, as you stride forth ostentatiously with deliberate hesitations immediately at the placement of each foot, as if parading yourself before the lesser beings who dare use sources that disagree with you.I'd rather play Diablo than look for information you won't believe anyways.
And yes, I laugh. Haughtily.
No, I've just done this before. Don't you get tired of going over the same crap over and over again? Don't you ever think to yourself "Wow, I could have done anything productive than argue with another mouth breather on the internet"?I imagine you tilting your head slightly back, then turning to the side, pressing your lips into the knuckles of your upraised hand, your elbow straight out to the side, the heel of your palm forward, fingers progressively curled from an almost straight index finger to an almost completely curled pinky. With heavily lidded eyes, you titter with hidden mouth. Your other hand swishes to the side, as if guiding an unseen cloak out of your path. "Ohohohohoh" you breathily cachinnate, as you stride forth ostentatiously with deliberate hesitations immediately at the placement of each foot, as if parading yourself before the lesser beings who dare use sources that disagree with you.
This is why I like politics.
It's this or cat pictures, man. The way things are for me these days, this almost counts as cardio.No, I've just done this before. Don't you get tired of going over the same crap over and over again? Don't you ever think to yourself "Wow, I could have done anything productive than argue with another mouth breather on the internet"?
The image is funny, though.
Dude, play some DiabloIt's this or cat pictures, man. The way things are for me these days, this almost counts as cardio.
Still at work. Typing a forum post looks like work from the back of the monitor. Video games... not so much.Dude, play some Diablo
relevant: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo_bias[DOUBLEPOST=1427162765,1427162406][/DOUBLEPOST]For @PatrThom: People demonstrate a clear bias towards leaving things as they are. If you give people the chance to opt in for organ donation, only a small percentage will (10-20%). If you make it opt out, the inverse occurs (10-20% opt out). So choosing to make anything opt in or opt out matters greatly. This is, by the way, why registering for anything requires you often uncheck, rather than check, a box to receive junk mail ads about their product.Hey, at least Oregon is taking steps in the right direction.
MI has the registration+license bundle, but they are still opt-in. They ask, "Would you also like to register to vote?" when renewing your license, while it sounds like OR will force you to state that you want to opt out if you wish to skip registration.
--Patrick
Ironically resulting in more bothersome junk mail...The "fine whatever quit bothering me" tendency.
I got that part, I just thought you were somehow saying something about Oregonians or Michiganders in particular.relevant: People demonstrate a clear bias towards leaving things as they are. If you give people the chance to opt in for organ donation, only a small percentage will (10-20%). If you make it opt out, the inverse occurs (10-20% opt out). So choosing to make anything opt in or opt out matters greatly. This is, by the way, why registering for anything requires you often uncheck, rather than check, a box to receive junk mail ads about their product.