Now that's a bit unfair... It's very hard to change from a job where you are highly mobile, able to see interesting sights, and able to operate on your own to one that requires you to sit in one place and push a button/pull a lever all day long. It's one of the biggest reasons soldiers have so much trouble getting back into civilian life and I can see other jobs like truckers, rangers, and postal workers having similar problems.
Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats
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GasBandit
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Oh no. Someone might not enjoy their job. Surely this is an unprecedented event with cataclysmic implications.
Seriously, there's no better way to sound like a spoiled teenager than to sit unemployed for years because you aren't able to find a job that fulfills you spiritually. Take the mind-numbing job... and KEEP LOOKING FOR YOUR DREAM JOB WHILE YOU WORK.
I know 3 people right now on unemployment who have been there for... good lord, I don't know, ages. All have Bachelors degrees. At least 2 of them have been offered decent jobs (not perfect, but not bad for this economy). It seems they have decided they would rather hold out for a "better" job.
My problem is this: I get wanting a good job. I get wanting the "perfect" job. Unemployment costs SOMEBODY something though, it's only there to get you to another job, not the "perfect" job. This is, in my opinion, total abuse of the system.
My problem is this: I get wanting a good job. I get wanting the "perfect" job. Unemployment costs SOMEBODY something though, it's only there to get you to another job, not the "perfect" job. This is, in my opinion, total abuse of the system.
Sounds like you know assholes. I worked at a job where I made $15 an hour when the place closed. I'd take one now where I make $9.
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I'd like to add just how insulting it is that people are assuming that everyone on unemployment love it and are happy to hold out for some impossible perfect job. Unless you have been laid off from a job, you have no idea what it feels like to suddenly have your life upturned and have to worry if you'll make your mortgage payments and other bills. It's really easy to sit in your comfortable chair and say how the other guy who can't make his bills is lazy. It's quite another to actually be that guy.
Sounds like you know assholes. I worked at a job where I made $15 an hour when the place closed. I'd take one now where I make $9.[/QUOTE]
The worst part? One of them is working under the table and getting unemployment. I honestly find them disgusting.
For the record, I'm not saying this means everyone on unemployment is doing this, far from it, more that there are some people out there who are really abusing the system.
And I understand this. I'm just unwilling to screw over the guy who is struggling on $1,200 a month unemployment to feed his kids just because there are a few people who cheat the system. It sucks there are people who ruin it for everyone. I still think the good outweighs the bad.
I agree with you 100%, we shouldn't let some assholes ruin something that people need, however, the real question here is how long do we do it? How long can we afford to do it as a country? I'm not suggesting we merely cut people off but it seems there has to be a limit, it's a safety net right? Not a permanent solution.
GasBandit
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Dick Morris explains why we need to let the state governments go broke.
The Wall Street Journal ponders, when it comes to unemployment, what would Reagan do?
A new State Department report designating terrorist organizations notably excludes one group: the Taliban.
When you read about America in European newspapers these days, what you are likely to find is a tone bordering on pity ... The stories are not angry, accusatory, or even ideological. It's worse: they are condescendingly elegiac.
Did the Stimulus Stimulate? The Obama team gives macroeconomics a bad name.
Obama's Chief doughboy, Robert Gibbs, is not at all pleased with the "professional left" who are critical of our esteemed Community Organizer.
This is your federal government coupled with the teachers unions: total education spending grew by 32% percent between 1999 and 2009, while K-12 enrollment has grown by less that 1% each year over the same time period.
Will New Jersey Governor Chris Christie choose not to apply for the $268 million in federal education aid coming to his state after yesterday's vote in Congress?
Jamie Dupree on yesterday's run-offs: Status Quo Incumbent. Seems maybe some of us aren't as mad at the incumbents as we thought.
Mexican Supreme Court rules all states must recognize Juan on Juan marriages.
Department of Homeland Security warns DC Metro about explosion threat. Metro officials reportedly terrified that any explosion might accidentally result in a functional escalator.
And finally, a bit of levity -
The Wall Street Journal ponders, when it comes to unemployment, what would Reagan do?
A new State Department report designating terrorist organizations notably excludes one group: the Taliban.
When you read about America in European newspapers these days, what you are likely to find is a tone bordering on pity ... The stories are not angry, accusatory, or even ideological. It's worse: they are condescendingly elegiac.
Did the Stimulus Stimulate? The Obama team gives macroeconomics a bad name.
Obama's Chief doughboy, Robert Gibbs, is not at all pleased with the "professional left" who are critical of our esteemed Community Organizer.
This is your federal government coupled with the teachers unions: total education spending grew by 32% percent between 1999 and 2009, while K-12 enrollment has grown by less that 1% each year over the same time period.
Will New Jersey Governor Chris Christie choose not to apply for the $268 million in federal education aid coming to his state after yesterday's vote in Congress?
Jamie Dupree on yesterday's run-offs: Status Quo Incumbent. Seems maybe some of us aren't as mad at the incumbents as we thought.
Mexican Supreme Court rules all states must recognize Juan on Juan marriages.
Department of Homeland Security warns DC Metro about explosion threat. Metro officials reportedly terrified that any explosion might accidentally result in a functional escalator.
And finally, a bit of levity -
And I once again point out that the increase in spending is due to an increase in the size of upper management in school districts (or rather the retention of such people who really needed to be downsized with the advances in technology), not due to massive pay increases to teachers. For example, the average teacher salary in Ohio is around 50k, which isn't all that much when you consider 4 years of school into the cost of that and when you consider that most salary increases are based on how long you've been at the job and when/if you get a Masters.
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Obama has nothing to do with Congress being a trainwreck. It's mostly due to two things.
1. Republicans obstructing anything substantial and generally being gigantic assholes who'll gut any sort of substantial legislation that will actually fix the host of problems facing the nation.
2. Democrats not being able to form any kind of hard party line and generally being gigantic pussies when it comes to keeping legislation in a form that will let it actually do anything.
If problem 1 doesn't occur problem 2 will take over and legislation ends up gutted. If problem 2 doesn't occur then Republicans will somehow manage to block the bill anyway (see the recent 9/11 health benefit bill).
GasBandit
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Problem 2 is most of what it is, not so much 1 because the Democrats had (and pretty much still have, thanks to Maine) a filibuster-proof majority. With a Democrat in the oval office and a filibuster-proof democrat majority, it's only dissension in the ranks that has stopped the democrats from realizing all their most-socialist dreams. The Republicans, as much as the left would love to blame them for their own failure, have pretty much been impotent and non-issue.
The Democrats were handed the keys to the kingdom, pretty much, and everybody pretty much agrees they dropped the ball big time. And Obama, as president, is the most visible aspect of the Democrat party. Like a football quarterback, he probably gets more credit than he deserves for both their victories and their defeats. That's the point of the comic.
Problem 2 is most of what it is, not so much 1 because the Democrats had (and pretty much still have, thanks to Maine) a filibuster-proof majority. With a Democrat in the oval office and a filibuster-proof democrat majority, it's only dissension in the ranks that has stopped the democrats from realizing all their most-socialist dreams. The Republicans, as much as the left would love to blame them for their own failure, have pretty much been impotent and non-issue.
The Democrats were handed the keys to the kingdom, pretty much, and everybody pretty much agrees they dropped the ball big time. And Obama, as president, is the most visible aspect of the Democrat party. Like a football quarterback, he probably gets more credit than he deserves for both their victories and their defeats. That's the point of the comic.[/QUOTE]
So we get to start saying "Blame Obama Syndrome"?
GasBandit
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I think the appropriate phrase would be "Obama Derangement Syndrome."
GasBandit
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House liberals have warned: don't touch Social Security. Don't even think about it. Don't think about raising the retirement age. Nothing. No changes. Got it?
The Brits seem to think that The Chosen One is in crash and burn mode. This from the British press: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown.
Government workers earn TWICE as much as their private sector counterparts. I suppose this is what you should expect in a country where the private sector has become a support mechanism for government.
The Conspiracy Against Economic Growth: Our political and media masters want a bigger, more intrusive, and more expensive government, and they want a Value Added Tax (VAT) to pay for it.
In this summer of unrecovery, it's important to understand how so many smart people got so much so wrong ...
A DC reporter is suspended for reporting facts about BP's campaign contributions to Barack Obama. He must have missed that memo.
More and more pundits are comparing the upcoming elections in 2010 to the Republican Revolution of 1994. Unfortunately we know how that turned out ... A lot of rhetoric and that's about it.
Here are Marco Rubio's thoughts on Harry Reid's comment on conservative Hispanics.
According to the latest Rasmussen polls, 57% of likely voters describe the Congressional Democrat agenda as "extreme."
Here's an informative article which explains a plan to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac so as to aid homebuyers and protect the taxpayers. Or there is this approach to Fannie and Freddie ... it's time to say goodbye for good.
Is the Obama administration planning to seize Western land without Congressional approval? Rep. Rob Bishop of Utah seems to think so, based on documents uncovered by the Interior Department.
Economy's getting better now. No? Riiiiight now No? Here it is, here it is...nnnnooow Still no? A timeline of Obamanomic cheerleading.
In the latest blow to the "Anti-Birthright Citizenship" movement, the Pew Research Center concludes that only 8% of newborns have illegal immigrant parents. Take tha... wait a minute. That does seem kind of high doesn't it?
Boardwalk game operator replaces Obama effigy that people were throwing baseballs at with Hillary Clinton. Well that solves that.
The Brits seem to think that The Chosen One is in crash and burn mode. This from the British press: The stunning decline of Barack Obama: 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in meltdown.
Government workers earn TWICE as much as their private sector counterparts. I suppose this is what you should expect in a country where the private sector has become a support mechanism for government.
The Conspiracy Against Economic Growth: Our political and media masters want a bigger, more intrusive, and more expensive government, and they want a Value Added Tax (VAT) to pay for it.
In this summer of unrecovery, it's important to understand how so many smart people got so much so wrong ...
A DC reporter is suspended for reporting facts about BP's campaign contributions to Barack Obama. He must have missed that memo.
More and more pundits are comparing the upcoming elections in 2010 to the Republican Revolution of 1994. Unfortunately we know how that turned out ... A lot of rhetoric and that's about it.
Here are Marco Rubio's thoughts on Harry Reid's comment on conservative Hispanics.
According to the latest Rasmussen polls, 57% of likely voters describe the Congressional Democrat agenda as "extreme."
Here's an informative article which explains a plan to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac so as to aid homebuyers and protect the taxpayers. Or there is this approach to Fannie and Freddie ... it's time to say goodbye for good.
Is the Obama administration planning to seize Western land without Congressional approval? Rep. Rob Bishop of Utah seems to think so, based on documents uncovered by the Interior Department.
Economy's getting better now. No? Riiiiight now No? Here it is, here it is...nnnnooow Still no? A timeline of Obamanomic cheerleading.
In the latest blow to the "Anti-Birthright Citizenship" movement, the Pew Research Center concludes that only 8% of newborns have illegal immigrant parents. Take tha... wait a minute. That does seem kind of high doesn't it?
Boardwalk game operator replaces Obama effigy that people were throwing baseballs at with Hillary Clinton. Well that solves that.
LOL, the Telegraph= the British Press?
From Wikipedia-
Political stance
The Daily Telegraph has been politically conservative in modern times.[23] The personal links between the paper's editors and the leadership of the Conservative Party, along with the paper's influence over Conservative activists, has resulted in the paper commonly being referred to, especially in Private Eye, as the Torygraph.
Oh, and The Chosen One? You can do better than that. The Golden Child would have been a cooler label.
From Wikipedia-
Political stance
The Daily Telegraph has been politically conservative in modern times.[23] The personal links between the paper's editors and the leadership of the Conservative Party, along with the paper's influence over Conservative activists, has resulted in the paper commonly being referred to, especially in Private Eye, as the Torygraph.
Oh, and The Chosen One? You can do better than that. The Golden Child would have been a cooler label.
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GasBandit
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North_Ranger
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So? You tend to be alternatively "condescendingly elegiac" or acerbic when you talk about the States.
Also, as stated: British press is not synonymous with European press, no more than New York state is synonymous with the United States.
Try telling that to the people who cry and scream about the "Ground Zero Mosque". 99% of them ain't from NYC, or anywhere near it.
GasBandit
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I think you're not getting the point - the point is this is a recent change in how European press talks about the US. Yes, I've often been so, but it's a new thing for them. As in, they used to be mad at us, or scared of us, now they just pity our self-implosion. A cautionary tale, as the article puts it.
IE, we've screwed ourselves over so bad that even they see it, and they feel sorry for us.
North_Ranger
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There there... Have a bagel.
The beginning is definitely weak. They sold me with the plan of the first hit though. And Julie Benz showing up.
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Holy shit. O'Reilly almost makes Beck look reasonable. D:
Holy shit. O'Reilly almost makes Beck look reasonable. D:[/QUOTE]
I do wonder if it went down that way because Beck let a little of the real himself shine through, or because the segment of Fox viewers he goes after (the Tea Partiers, paranoid libertarians, sovereign citizens, etc.) are supposedly not considered Culture Warriors, who are definitely O'Reilly's focus.
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Holy shit. O'Reilly almost makes Beck look reasonable. D:[/QUOTE]
I do wonder if it went down that way because Beck let a little of the real himself shine through, or because the segment of Fox viewers he goes after (the Tea Partiers, paranoid libertarians, sovereign citizens, etc.) are supposedly not considered Culture Warriors, who are definitely O'Reilly's focus.[/QUOTE]
It went down that way because Fox News has been winding down their narrative on gay marriage ever since the Prop 8 trial ended (even before the decision was rendered). Pulling up any videos from a year ago show Glenn Beck speaking out against gay marriage.
Basically, Fox News is trying to paint the narrative so that when gay marriage finally does become acceptable at a nation-wide level they'll be able to say "see, we were for it all along".
GasBandit
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When someone says "if Fox News told me the sky was blue I wouldn't believe them," it says more about the speaker than Fox News.
More people, even liberals, are coming around to the idea of a tax holiday as a way to stimulate the economy.
There's this phony construct that spending more taxpayer money while taxing the rich will save the economy.
Obamanomics has done more than just keep unemployment high during a modest recovery. It may also be keeping high joblessness permanent by raising the costs to businesses of hiring new workers.
A government audit found that most of the money authorized for one of the energy efficiency programs in last year's stimulus plan is going unspent.
Here's a man-on-the-street video asking taxpayers whether examples of government waste are true or false.
Obama himself has jumped on the bandwagon of warning voters that if the Republicans gain control in Washington, they will take away your Social Security!
Congress may slash food stamp program funding even further in order to fund Michelle Obama's "Let's Move" initiative.
California claims to be making major reforms to its union pension plans. But is this what you would constitute as major reform?
FYI .. Three states -- Washington, New Mexico and Utah -- allow illegal immigrants to get licenses because their laws do not require proof of citizenship or legal residency.
Here comes the next wave of imminent domain whooptydoo - Property rights, according to New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
More people, even liberals, are coming around to the idea of a tax holiday as a way to stimulate the economy.
There's this phony construct that spending more taxpayer money while taxing the rich will save the economy.
Obamanomics has done more than just keep unemployment high during a modest recovery. It may also be keeping high joblessness permanent by raising the costs to businesses of hiring new workers.
A government audit found that most of the money authorized for one of the energy efficiency programs in last year's stimulus plan is going unspent.
Here's a man-on-the-street video asking taxpayers whether examples of government waste are true or false.
Obama himself has jumped on the bandwagon of warning voters that if the Republicans gain control in Washington, they will take away your Social Security!
Congress may slash food stamp program funding even further in order to fund Michelle Obama's "Let's Move" initiative.
California claims to be making major reforms to its union pension plans. But is this what you would constitute as major reform?
FYI .. Three states -- Washington, New Mexico and Utah -- allow illegal immigrants to get licenses because their laws do not require proof of citizenship or legal residency.
Here comes the next wave of imminent domain whooptydoo - Property rights, according to New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
When Fox News changes tactic and suddenly changes their narrative and doesn't sound ignorant and suspect, I stop and take notice. Maybe that was their plan all along?
California is not claiming this, a few politicians and their lackeys are claiming this. Every newspaper, newscast, and person in the state is rolling their eyes and calling for real change when they hear about pension reform. We're just as pissed about it as everyone else.