Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats
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Really? I mean, I believe there is a big difference between getting all the forms properly counter-signed so you can bring a bar of chocolate to the compound, and spraying potentially harmful chemicals in inmates' faces.
Do we actually know that that is happening beyond the realm of error, aside from testimonies of people who may well have an agenda?
There is a certain difficulty in obtaining accurate, impartial data, given the circumstances. In order to paint a picture with enough detail to draw any sort of meaningful conclusion, it may be necessary to consider data outside what would normally be preferred as a "tidy" standard deviation.
In other words (since I also have no degree in Statistics), if you are saying you require a quantity of publicly available and unimpeachable data that would place it beyond a reasonable doubt before you will assign any sort of credence to the allegations, then you have no idea what "reasonable suspicion" means.
--Patrick
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figmentPez
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Yeah, if you're t Prager U, that's basically the end game.
My mom has been doing that since March. She was broken of looking at Facebook until she couldn't get her back fixed for over a month. :/
I think you may be putting words into my mouth there a bit, Patrick.
I haven't been following the story very actively, but as I understand, at this point, we have a number of unverified claims by detainees at an immigration detention center claiming improper use of anti-covid chemicals in the facility. The relevant authorities have denied such claims as baselsess, and profess that the chemicals are being used appropriately.
For some people, the mere claim may be enough to cast blame, perhaps by virtue of past oversights by said authority, whether real or imagined. Personally, I would wish for further verification. What precisely is the proper method in the US I do not know, but I would guess that, if enough indication is detected, then an inquiry could be called for, interviewing the detainees, COs, checking inventories and procurement orders (a facility spraying chemicals ever 10-15 minutes would go through a ton of the stuff), whatever is appropriate. Then issue a report of their findings, after which I may feel like I have sufficient information to make up my mind on the issue.
I hope this serves to clarify my position on the matter.
it does. It sounded like you were dismissing the claims as baseless in a sort of "he-said/she-said" way, where the detainees were complaining but the jailers were saying there was nothing, and you were like, "Well, that's good enough for me!" It appeared that you were ignoring the fact that the complaints were not stopping, which could indicate that maaaaaybe the jailers weren't being entirely honest, and at a minimum should trigger some sort of external (, independent) investigation.
--Patrick
So, watching Rand Paul whitesplaining lynching was... an experience.
His focus on the “problem” with the victim getting away with only minor injuries was very disturbing, because it sounds like the argument that it’s not really rape unless the victim has sufficient injuries to prove they fought back.
His focus on the “problem” with the victim getting away with only minor injuries was very disturbing, because it sounds like the argument that it’s not really rape unless the victim has sufficient injuries to prove they fought back.
CNN: Ahmaud Arbery was hit with a truck before he died, and his killer allegedly used a racial slur, investigator testifies
I just finished listening to part of the hearing on the background, and the headline/contents are accurate. The investigation turned up a lot of scummy shit on these guys.Excerpts said:
Let me stop you right there. You must be new here.
Dave
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My only surprise is that it took this long.
Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Jeff Merkley propose creating a national database of cops with a record of misconduct
It's a start, but they should also add in all the other public servant positions. Mayors, Governors, Senators, keep it going...
--Patrick
figmentPez
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United States added to list of most dangerous countries for journalists for first time
"The world's five deadliest countries for journalists include three — India, Mexico and, for the first time, the United States — where journalists were killed in cold blood, even though those countries weren't at war or in conflict, the group said."
"The world's five deadliest countries for journalists include three — India, Mexico and, for the first time, the United States — where journalists were killed in cold blood, even though those countries weren't at war or in conflict, the group said."
They need to ban police unions. It won’t matter what list they’re on, the unions will still protect them.
Yeah, definitely that.
After all that, he ends it by calling you a “russophobe”.
Also, JFC, that is some crazy Bernie Bro circle-jerking going on in that dude‘s Twitter. One of them claims to have PTSD because Biden got the nomination?
