They always announce decisions in batches. One batch in June and one in October.
Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats
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Only in the case of non-Native residents. The territory returned in Oklahoma is overwhelmed with cases where a Native victim can't receive justice because the perpetrator was non-Native. It's been a legal black hole since the ruling. This will help people get some justice.
I think it's telling that the people who are against this are the tribal nations themselves. It's only a "legal black hole" if you think the tribal nations are unable to prosecute laws on their lands.
It will help White Man determine what's right and wrong for those poor other people trying to form their own justice.
No. Literally in no way is it okay.
Somehow we're all supposed to feel guilty about what we Europeans did to black people in Africa, but it's still a-okay to do it to NA. Get the fuck off their lands. Or at the very least honor the incredibly one-sided "treaties" that exist.
I don't care if you think abortions are murder, it's still ignoring another people's rights to self-govern.
If the state of Oklahoma wants to exert jurisdiction over events which happen to non-Natives while in Native territory, does this also mean that the Muscogee Nation may claim jurisdiction over events which happen to Natives while in non-Native territory? I mean, reciprocity, and all.
--Patrick
This right here.
Man could go free after court overturns manslaughter conviction on McGirt claim
An obviously reluctant state appellate court overturned the conviction and 19-year prison sentence of a Wagoner man, who was found guilty earlier in the 2013 traffic death of an 11-year-old
McGirt leaves Indian victims feeling ‘defenseless’
As a result of the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in McGirt v. Oklahoma , many American Indians now find themselves largely unprotected from criminals.
www.ocpathink.org
Justices limit 2020 ruling on tribal lands in Oklahoma
The Supreme Court ruled on Wednesday that Oklahoma can prosecute non-Native Americans for crimes committed on tribal land when the victim is Native American.
www.koco.com
The Federal government isn't able to investigate and prosecute crimes like this rapidly and thoroughly. Some of these were cases settled in State court and later overturned. I genuinely don't see how being able to prosecute some of these at the State level is bad. Muscogee is either overwhelmed or unable to prosecute as well, I don't know what to call that other than a legal black hole where you can just commit crime on Reservation land as a non-Native person and basically be assured you'll get away with it.
Letting tribal governments prosecute non-natives when they commit crimes on native lands seems like a better option. Otherwise you’re just blaming them for not doing something they can’t even do.Man could go free after court overturns manslaughter conviction on McGirt claim
An obviously reluctant state appellate court overturned the conviction and 19-year prison sentence of a Wagoner man, who was found guilty earlier in the 2013 traffic death of an 11-year-oldtulsaworld.com
McGirt leaves Indian victims feeling ‘defenseless’
As a result of the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in McGirt v. Oklahoma , many American Indians now find themselves largely unprotected from criminals.
Justices limit 2020 ruling on tribal lands in Oklahoma
The Supreme Court ruled on Wednesday that Oklahoma can prosecute non-Native Americans for crimes committed on tribal land when the victim is Native American.
The Federal government isn't able to investigate and prosecute crimes like this rapidly and thoroughly. Some of these were cases settled in State court and later overturned. I genuinely don't see how being able to prosecute some of these at the State level is bad. Muscogee is either overwhelmed or unable to prosecute as well, I don't know what to call that other than a legal black hole where you can just commit crime on Reservation land as a non-Native person and basically be assured you'll get away with it.
I mean, I agree completely. But the court wasn't ruling, as far as I can tell, on whether or not that was an option.
I just feel the fact that some justice will be delivered is not an entirely bad thing. But I fully agree that if we give jurisdiction to a new territory, they should get all the judicial trim that comes with that. These cases became a nightmare for victims. McGirt will have a lot of consequences, for decades, and I think this is one where some of the legal consequences are improved. If, in the long run, the tribal governments get full judicial authority, I think that's good. But this ruling helps people see some justice in the meantime.
Here's an article from a law professor at Wayne State University looking at the issue: Oklahoma state officials resist Supreme Court ruling affirming tribal authority over American Indian country .
It really sounds like the State of Oklahoma is the problem. So of course SCOTUS ruled in their favor.
It really sounds like the State of Oklahoma is the problem. So of course SCOTUS ruled in their favor.
figmentPez
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And in the final ruling two of the fascist judges voted "with the libs" to give all the fascist news outlets a story about how "SCOTUS really is a legitimate court."
figmentPez
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Recap:
Police violence, misogyny, racism, and greed abound.
Police violence, misogyny, racism, and greed abound.
I know there's no precedent and no law, but Trump needs to be tried as a traitor, all his nominations considered treasonous, and all decisions involving "his" justices reconsidered by a new SC with properly appointed people.
Even the Founding Fathers, a bunch of white, mostly racist, Christian, anti-government rich classist wouldn't agree or approve of this.
Even the Founding Fathers, a bunch of white, mostly racist, Christian, anti-government rich classist wouldn't agree or approve of this.
GasBandit
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By then it may be too late to buy though.
figmentPez
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Texas continues to be a fucking embarrassment:
figmentPez
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The stupidity, it burns!
Which is saying something because she's still awful
figmentPez
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Now that Florida has done this, I'm sure that Texas will be inspired to one-up them.