[PC Game] Minecraft HF server info and game discussion

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GasBandit

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So how does one get on multiplayer now? I keep getting invalid server key. And I'm too lazy to Google it.
Just keep trying.
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I'll be damned if I can find the nether fortress. Saw a lava slime, but nothing else new...
 
It took some serious searching before we found our first one on my server*. They are REALLY hard to see because they are so dark.

--Patrick
This server has been running vanilla since before v1.3, so this means you don't need to wipe the Nether to make 'em generate. Just go explore more.
 

GasBandit

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Nether exploration eight bitches on a bitch boat without magic carpet... and getting home without warps is a harrowing proposition if you didn't leave a trail of bread crumbs easy as hell to follow.
 
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Philosopher B.

Apparently I live in a snow biome now. :/ That includes the nearby desert ...
 
I run a server for my family, and their friends.

I update to 1.0, get on to see if things are alright, and find the entire town destroyed. Thinking it was a glitch due to the upgrade, I resigned myself to erasing the world and starting over.

Then I learn that my nephew invited his two friends on and told them that the map might change after 1.0 release. I suppose they assumed it was a sure thing, because they decided to have a "going away party" and completely destroyed everything that everyone else built over the last month.

Shame on me for trusting my family, I suppose. Now I actually have to manage the server, rather than simply trusting people.

As an aside, they recorded their efforts to blow stuff up, so if you are into listening to teenagers watch the world burn, I provide this for your amusement. There is a pirate ship of some sort involved. I turned it off after a few minutes because the person doing the recording was doing a terrible job of it. Let me know if there are more interesting shots later in the video if you happen to sit all the way through it:

 

GasBandit

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Doh, no Backup, hm? That's a bummer :/ Even when I was running a server for just me and the little woman, I tried to make a backup every 24 hours... map corruptions do happen, and uh... she was a little "accident prone" too.
 

GasBandit

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Any luck finding a fortress? I'm quite impressed with how far you and chikii seemed to be exploring the Nether.
Not a single sighting... in fact, I'm kind of getting deja vu in parts of it - I'm wondering if it's actually a "new" nether or if it's just regenerated the old one - all I did to reset it was rename the DIM-1 subfolder of world9 (caprica).

2_Bit also looked around a lot, didn't find anything, I understand.
 
Not a single sighting... in fact, I'm kind of getting deja vu in parts of it - I'm wondering if it's actually a "new" nether or if it's just regenerated the old one - all I did to reset it was rename the DIM-1 subfolder of world9 (caprica).
It's the same one. I recognize well the area between the central portals portal, and where I constructed mine originally. I don't know how to fix that, other than maybe taking the world to your machine at home, DELETING all sub-directories, and trying to pop it in single player? That may work. It may not, but it might. I dunno.

But you're right, it's the same as the original nether we had. Or at least I think so.
 

GasBandit

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It's the same one. I recognize well the area between the central portals portal, and where I constructed mine originally. I don't know how to fix that, other than maybe taking the world to your machine at home, DELETING all sub-directories, and trying to pop it in single player? That may work. It may not, but it might. I dunno.

But you're right, it's the same as the original nether we had. Or at least I think so.
That was what I was afraid of. I think it's using the old nether generator, and using the old level seed. I believe this to stem from the fact that the way vanilla minecraft's nether storage system works is that the level.dat is not self contained in DIM-1, but rather it uses the same level.dat which is in the world's folder one level higher (world9 in this case).

This leads me to believe that Caprica, in vanilla mode, will never have a nether fortress. Only a "freshly generated in 1.0" map will. I wonder if this means it's even worth pruning back caprica, as I half suspect the "empty" villages would repopulate as empty as well - and if we pushed our borders out, the other villages would generate empty as well.

My guess is that the easiest way to address this will be to simply multiverse in fresh maps when bukkit is updated - IE, a new, freshly generated, self-contained nether like we had before while multiversed, and also a fresh, perhaps permanent AdventureLand for the new standard world content.
 

GasBandit

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Pop a new map and MCEdit in Caprica?
Could try, I suppose. It's beyond my MCEdit-fu, but if you think you're up to it, I'll host a backup for you when I get home.
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Problem there, is anything anybody has in their inventory will go away.
 
Hm, maybe set aside a time for people to stow away their stuff in chests? That's assuming people care enough to want the new Nether without using Multiverse. Either way I'm game to try.
 

GasBandit

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Hm, maybe set aside a time for people to stow away their stuff in chests? That's assuming people care enough to want the new Nether without using Multiverse. Either way I'm game to try.
It will be moot when we get multiverse back anyway... which could be any day now.
 
This leads me to believe that Caprica, in vanilla mode, will never have a nether fortress. Only a "freshly generated in 1.0" map will.
You saw my comment earlier about how my server world successfully generated a Nether fortress, even though we have been running this same continuity since before the Nether even came to SMP? It took some serious adventuring, but we did indeed find (at least) one. I wouldn't give up just yet.

Also, if you bring over the player.dat files, everyone will still have their inventories (and achievements). Their locations will be broken, but you can just use MCEdit to replant their locations to someplace safe and everyone will be good.

Using MCEdit to transplant everything would be pretty simple to do, just extremely tedious and borders probably won't match up with post-beta terrain.

--Patrick
 
I'll admit I'm also worried about the lack of mushroom biomes, and such. I'm not sure how the hook-up will work. But transplanting what we have whole-hog is OK with me. Heck, even losing inventory (most of our "good stuff" is in chests anyways) isn't that bad.

I'll try and look around some forums and see if anybody else is also having issues, and how they solved it.
 
If you need a contribution, I will contribute. I've been a bit busy lately (so less minecraft), but I definitely want to continue to have the ability to play with you guys.
 

Dave

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Let's find out how many and how much before I give out my paypal. I know that Gas may have an idea or two before we do this.
 

Dave

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Thanks.
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And renewed.
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Okay, not completely renewed. The actual cost is $260. Apparently the invoice I got was in BRITISH FRICKING POUNDS!! So payed the additional $98 out of my account. Normally I'd eat the cost but I can't right now.
Donations are welcome. :(
 
Shit Dave, why you gotta move so quick? Coupon code MINECON gets you 50% off servers. )-:
Any chance you could get that retroactively applied?

Also, can't donate until next week, put me down for 20
 

GasBandit

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I'm at something of a loss. I really thought there'd be a new recommended build of bukkit available by now. But I've checked both multiplay and the bukkit website, and there is not.
 
Everyone is too busy playing Skyrim ^_^

Edit:

Crap I haven't been checking the thread lately.

Still need donations for server?
 
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