*sighs, turns over "DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING IN AMERICA" sign to 0*
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figmentPez
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Yes, such a shining example of how well having armed law enforcement on the scene from the very start turns out... </SARCASM>
Americans don't care enough. And frankly... Then why should we? I think hundreds of dead children ate a horrible price to pay for the fetishization of something that was once only meant as a defensive measure. But, well, the US consensus seems to be, let's keep it all the way it is,we won't do anything the Dems want.
People around the globe are completely unwilling to change or sacrifice in any way - just look at the climate debate - but it's seldom so clearly displayed. It's pretty depressing to think these are the people we're supposed to hope will help save the planet for future generations.
People around the globe are completely unwilling to change or sacrifice in any way - just look at the climate debate - but it's seldom so clearly displayed. It's pretty depressing to think these are the people we're supposed to hope will help save the planet for future generations.
figmentPez
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Once again, police lied to make themselves look better:
There's also allegations of missing minutes from the police scanner recordings.
There's also allegations of missing minutes from the police scanner recordings.
Of course! Arm the students! Why hasn't TX thought of this before? Give every little Billy and Sally a .25ACP and school shooters will think twice before facing down a classroom of 43 kids armed with semiautomatic pistols.
--Patrick
GasBandit
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The US needs to look at reducing the level of anger at failure. Men facing failure is super dangerous.
figmentPez
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We keep learning new things that make the police look worse, and absolutely disprove the idea that armed guards at schools are going to help anything.
The story keeps changing, and there's a long history of police lying about this shit. What the fuck actually happened in Uvalde?
Excuse me? Why is this statement being made?
This makes me think that the cops shot someone who wasn't the shooter. Did border patrol get a little trigger happy?
The story keeps changing, and there's a long history of police lying about this shit. What the fuck actually happened in Uvalde?
Excuse me? Why is this statement being made?
This makes me think that the cops shot someone who wasn't the shooter. Did border patrol get a little trigger happy?
Uvalde is a tragedy, no doubt. But I'm a stickler for accurate data, rather than emotionalism. This infographic is wrong.
The US has had 57 times as many school shootings as the other major industrialized nations combined | CNN
There have been at least 288 school shootings in the US since January 1, 2009. That’s 57 times as many shootings as the other six G7 countries combined.
www.cnn.com
288 since 2009, not this year. Which, still, is outrageous--but it paints a different picture. And these aren't mass shootings as in Uvalde. Most of them happened at things like sporting events or parking lots involving disputes between students, and not random shootings within the school. Based on mass shooting criteria commonly used (4 or more deaths), there have been 13 in the US since 1966. I was wondering, based on how fast the media is to jump on these kinds of stories, why I hadn't heard of 280+ other shootings this year. That's why.
There Have Been 13 Mass School Shootings Since 1966, Not 27 This Year
Don't conflate mass shootings with school shootings.
reason.com
Nice to know these people aren't just cowardly when there is a weapon involved but also when there isn't.
Im sure this is true, but where are you seeing it?
figmentPez
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Why didn't the police storm in earlier? According to officials, the on-scene commander thought that the active shooter situation had ended.
But yeah, the solution to this is more police!
I'm so pissed right now I can't think straight. My (definitely former) friend who posted shit about how the solution to this is armed guard, clarified that the failure of the police in Uvalde doesn't prove anything, because he's advocating that military veterans be the armed guards, and that their military training would stop this. Yeah, that's what we need around kids, vets with PTSD who are trained for military action in war zones. I'm sure that'll keep kids safe! Then he started ranting about how we shouldn't be spending money on the Ukraine, and it's really sad to see someone who I thought was reasonable be so far up the ass of conservative propaganda.
Even if putting military guards in schools could stop school shootings, and we boarded up all the windows, and turned schools into bunkers, and stopped having any outdoor activities, and basically put our kids in prison.... Even if that were somehow a sane solution, that doesn't make our grocery stores, and churches, and movie theaters, and... fucking everywhere else safe. I am so sick and tired of people who praise guns as the solution to guns.
I'm more okay with an ex military guard than I am with a police officer. Police have proven these to be nothing but pests to the children they "protect."
Set the military guy up in a little apartment where he can work out all day and make sure he doesn't interact with the kids. Not going to solve the problem we're trying to solve but at least a bunch of vets will pull a decent salary for very little work which I'm fine with.
Set the military guy up in a little apartment where he can work out all day and make sure he doesn't interact with the kids. Not going to solve the problem we're trying to solve but at least a bunch of vets will pull a decent salary for very little work which I'm fine with.
figmentPez
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Cowards and bullies.
figmentPez
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They don't know why he did it, but they'll mention video games in the same sentence and let people draw their own conclusions about why...
figmentPez
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Ted Cruz: "Yes, mass shootings are all the fault of doctors, programmers and digital artists, and sports or possibly COVID."
--Patrick