So... California is in deficit. Propose to legal/tax Pot

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Chibibar

@Li3n said:
How is that double standards?!

I mean Jesus didn't turn water into prune juice, now did he?
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I was referring to the "harm the body" = "harm the lord" that some didn't quite follow that mantra. Some hard the body = sin. Gays = sin.. so technically double standard (at least that is how I view it)

It is like it is "okay" to molest boys, but not ok to be gay... what is up with that? (note: I put down okay in quotes since those are look the other way until recently)

note/edit: the above remark was about the Catholic priests.

but anyways...... it would be interesting to see if the state would pass a Pot Tax or not and what would the Feds do about it.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Shegokigo said:
If pot legalization passes before gay marriage...... :eek:rly:
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Not as much tax revenue in gay marriage. In fact, when you start filing jointly, it will actually lower tax revenues. Don't worry though, gay marriage is coming. It's inevitable, despite the best efforts of your fellow gays to generate antipathy among the breeders by acting like an impatient child stamping the collective foot, delaying what had previously been a smooth and straight trend toward acceptance.

At any rate, I'm all for the legalization and taxation of marijuana. It's smell is no more awful than tobacco, and it can be controlled similarly. Plus, it will have the added benefit of stripping revenue from criminal enterprises (this would apply to any drug, really).
 
Tress

Tress

GasBandit said:
Don't worry though, gay marriage is coming. It's inevitable, despite the best efforts of your fellow gays to generate antipathy among the breeders by acting like an impatient child stamping the collective foot, delaying what had previously been a smooth and straight trend toward acceptance.
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Koko

Covar said:
Koko said:
Covar said:
so where are the studies on the effects of secondhand smoke?
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:facepalm:
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Its a valid question. People are so adamant about legalizing it, but I've never seen any study on secondhand effects. Say what you want I don't have to worry about booze getting me drunk if my neighbors drinking it.
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The lack of study on secondhand effects is due to the inconclusive nature on the harmful effects of firsthand smoke.

Also, unless you're in a closed room & hotboxing, you're not getting high on the exhaled smoke, almost all THC is absorbed in the lungs after 3-5 seconds.



And regardless, it's inconceivable that there wouldn't be major restrictions that would put what cigarette smokers have to go through to shame.
 
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Le Quack

OMG I might smell the smoke that got someone high.

You won't get high off second hand weed smoke, and if you do, you are probably smoking weed anyway.
 
Rob King

Rob King

Shegokigo said:
Chibibar said:
Shegokigo said:
If pot legalization passes before gay marriage...... :eek:rly:
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I wouldn't be surprise Shego. Why?

cause smoking weed is not a sin ;) (at least not any of my religious friend said so yet. unless they lump it with Cigarettes and alcohols)
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To most "highly religious" it's exactly the same as smoking cigs. Anything to "harm the body" is as to "harming the Lord" to them.
That's why I'd be freakin pissed off if one were to pass over the other.
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This is why you'll never find Republicans at McDonalds.
 
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Koko

heart disease is the #1 killer in America
does the Vatican boycott trans fat?
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@Li3n

@Li3n

Greed = one of the 7 deadly sins... so yeah they do...

Chibibar said:
@Li3n said:
How is that double standards?!

I mean Jesus didn't turn water into prune juice, now did he?
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I was referring to the "harm the body" = "harm the lord" that some didn't quite follow that mantra. Some harm the body = sin. Gays = sin.. so technically double standard (at least that is how I view it)
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You don't think wine can harm the body!?
 
Shegokigo

Shegokigo

It's not "wine" it's the "blood of christ" and it's taken during mass and presented by the pastor.

Drinking "wine" at home would be a "sin".
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

Shegokigo said:
Drinking "wine" at home would be a "sin".
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I keep forgetting that Protestants and Catholics are bonkers... (and i wasn't even referring to that part of the Bible, but the wedding where they didn't have enough wine, if that's not at home i don't know what is).
 
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Le Quack

What are their besides protestant and catholics?

Pretty much all denominations are protestant.
 
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Le Quack

Besides Protestant and catholic, what other types of christianity are there?

When you said "Protestant and Catholics are Bonkers" what other kinds of christians are there?
 
drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Shegokigo said:
It's not "wine" it's the "blood of christ" and it's taken during mass and presented by the pastor.

Drinking "wine" at home would be a "sin".
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Really? Give me the verse that says so. I've never seen anything that says smoking, drinking, trans-fat, etc is a "sin." I think there are some recommendations in there, but no language stating sin.

But, that depends on your definition of sin. Some folks think eating pork is a sin. Wearing clothes from a mixture of fabric is a sin. There are 613 commandments, depending on how you look at things.

I pretty much draw the sin line firmly on the big 10, but sin is usually defined as something that separates you from God.

I'm sure Espy could state this a bit more eloquently.
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

@Le Quack

Well there's us, the Assyrians and the Orientals... that i know of having survived to the present day... though there might be others that are so heretical (as in different) they don't seem like Christianity at all.

But let me guess, you think the Pope was always in charge until Luther, right?
 
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Papillon

Shegokigo said:
Drinking "wine" at home would be a "sin".
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This is completely untrue:

the Bible said:
No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach's sake and your frequent infirmities." (1 Timothy 5:23)
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Jesus' first miracle was making an extra 120 - 180 gallons of wine for a wedding reception after they ran out.
 
Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Obviously you read more into what I was saying, hence I used the "quotes".

If you abuse any substance that causes your body damage, willfully. It's considered a sin.
 
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Koko

Le Quack said:
Besides Protestant and catholic, what other types of christianity are there?

When you said "Protestant and Catholics are Bonkers" what other kinds of christians are there?
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eastern orthodox
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

As stated before... i just didn't want to use the same words...

Koko said:
Le Quack said:
Besides Protestant and catholic, what other types of christianity are there?

When you said "Protestant and Catholics are Bonkers" what other kinds of christians are there?
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eastern orthodox
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He knows too much... :paranoid:
 
Covar

Covar

As a Catholic I find some of these assumptions about us ludicrous. A catholic thinking drinking is a sin. hilarious. especially when you consider the largest religion among the Irish.
 
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Chibibar

the only thing I remember from bible study from the old testiment is

Thy shall not eat animal of split hooves (back then it was pigs - also my wording might be off but that is what I remember)

In Theology class, people are "god fearing" bunch. So it is EASIER for the religious leaders of the land to put in "laws" into the bible and people generally follow without question (back then) than to say the lord of the castle to tell the masses "don't eat pigs cause they are diseased" but the masses are likely to believe "don't eat pig cause God said so"
 
Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Covar said:
As a Catholic I find some of these assumptions about us ludicrous. A catholic thinking drinking is a sin. hilarious. especially when you consider the largest religion among the Irish.
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Reading comprehension failed.

I know what I know, due to being a Catholic deacon's daughter and growing up in an extremely religious family and household.
 
Rob King

Rob King

Shegokigo said:
Obviously you read more into what I was saying, hence I used the "quotes".

If you abuse any substance that causes your body damage, willfully. It's considered a sin.
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... Depending on who you ask. We're at the point in our society that you can dig up something damaging about nearly everything. When you discover that wiping your ass in the wrong way is a step down the road to cancer, I think you're going to see a whole lot of Christians dropping the "bad for you = sin" bullshit.

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Shegokigo said:
Covar said:
As a Catholic I find some of these assumptions about us ludicrous. A catholic thinking drinking is a sin. hilarious. especially when you consider the largest religion among the Irish.
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Reading comprehension failed.

I know what I know, due to being a Catholic deacon's daughter and growing up in an extremely religious family and household.
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This indicates to me that you've probably been misinformed.

Anybody who can be identified as 'extremely religious,' in my experience, can't be trusted to speak for whichever denomination they are a part of. They embellish, put their own spin on things, or otherwise take the rules of their movement a step or two too far for the sake of piety.
 
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Chibibar

since Pot is a Cat 1 drug on the Fed level, how is it that CA allow dispensary in the first place?
 
Shakey

Shakey

Chibibar said:
since Pot is a Cat 1 drug on the Fed level, how is it that CA allow dispensary in the first place?
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They look the other way. They did bust a few at first. I don't think they would go for non-prescription use though.
 
Jake

Jake

Shegokigo said:
I know what I know, due to being a Catholic deacon's daughter and growing up in an extremely religious family and household.
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Did you at some point wear a Catholic schoolgirl uniform? Just need the facts for, you know, science :paranoid:
 
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Chibibar

Jake said:
Shegokigo said:
I know what I know, due to being a Catholic deacon's daughter and growing up in an extremely religious family and household.
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Did you at some point wear a Catholic schoolgirl uniform? Just need the facts for, you know, science :paranoid:
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better yet.. got a picture? ;)
 
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