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#1

Timmus

Timmus

The old thread got locked so I thought I'd restart the hockey discussion.

Canucks had a phenomenal December and are as deep a team as I have ever seen them be.

If they continue to play like they have been they could be first in the conference if not the league.

I don't mean to gloat when I ask:

How is everyone feeling about their chosen team at this point in the season?


#2

Piotyr

Piotyr

Be nice if the top line were all healthy at the same time.


#3

Vrii

Vrii

Sens fan.

So...yeah.


#4

Covar

Covar

We're doing a lot better than last year, but really need to step things up soon if we want to make the playoffs. Also Jeff Skinner makes every game worth watching.


#5

Timmus

Timmus

Vrii said:
Sens fan.

So...yeah.
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...looks at standings...

:(

If it's any consolation the leafs are still doing worse than them.
Sens have a guy from my hometown playing on their farm team right now. I might follow them a little more closely if and when he cracks the lineup.


#6

Mathias

Mathias

This season is going to be a repeat of :



#7

Adam

Adammon

Canucks, lol.

Lou will do exactly what he did in the Olympics and become a sieve, thus throwing away any chance the Canucks have of coming anywhere near a cup.


#8

Timmus

Timmus


Adammon said:
Canucks, lol.

Lou will do exactly what he did in the Olympics and become a sieve, thus throwing away any chance the Canucks have of coming anywhere near a cup.
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You mean the Olympics where this happened?

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#9

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

The scary thing about the Canucks is that their back up goalie is better than their starter, thus giving the rest of the team absolute confidence in the back end.

As for the Leafs, I really just want to bury every single reporter that reports about them in a fire ant hill. It's hard enough to field a skilled team that can compete without having to compete with the media's garbage every day.


#10

Timmus

Timmus

HCGLNS said:
The scary thing about the Canucks is that their back up goalie is better than their starter, thus giving the rest of the team absolute confidence in the back end.

As for the Leafs, I really just want to bury every single reporter that reports about them in a fire ant hill. It's hard enough to field a skilled team that can compete without having to compete with the media's garbage every day.
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Yeah Schneider has been playing great for the Canucks. As a fan it's nice to not have to worry about who's playing net on a given night.

As for the media I think you'll find that they are fit to be eaten alive by insects in any Canadian NHL city. Best to ignore them and enjoy watching your team.


#11

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Yes, but the press in Toronto is far and above the worst in the league to the point where they can affect the play of the players.

WTF Boston? How did you lose tonight?


#12

Timmus

Timmus

I don't really have too much exposure to the Toronto media environment. Who are they psyching out and how are they doing it?


#13

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Well this week saw a blockbuster trade between New Jersey and Dallas. Not a friggin peep on any of the TO media outlets about it. What did they talk about at the start of the week? That Versteeg and Beachemin are soon to be traded, nay they must be traded. Both players have a decent start of the week and they stop talking about them, so they move on to trading Gustavson because Reimer has played ok in the whole two games he has ever played in the NHL. Two games! Then after the shellacking the Leafs gave to Atlantic on Friday, they immediately ask about trading Grabovski, because they figure since he is on a fantastic run right now, they might never get a better offer for him. Seriously, who else would suggest that the reward for success is to be traded? Imagine if the Vancouver press suggested trading Luongo after he won the gold medal or Henrik Sedin after he won the scoring title?


#14

jwhouk

jwhouk

Piotyr said:
Be nice if the top line were all healthy at the same time.
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I think there are fans of 30 teams that would like to have this statement to be true.

Especially come April/May/June.


#15

Covar

Covar

29 teams. The Hurricanes can't seem to keep a consistent line (or defensive pairing). Healthy or Injured.


#16

jwhouk

jwhouk

Well, I'd be lying if I didn't believe the same thing with the Preds. No-neck doesn't believe in keeping a line together for longer than 30 seconds.


#17

Vrii

Vrii

I'd be happy if Ottawa had more than one player capable of first-line numbers for more than a game or two at a time.

Oh, and if he wasn't hurt. So I guess it's really the same thing.


#18

Covar

Covar

So the All-Stars are announced, as are the uniforms for the game. You can even buy one of those sweaters now! Just one problem: no one knows what player will be on what team until Jan 28th.


#19

Timmus

Timmus

Maybe they all wear the same uniform game day and one of the teams has to wear pinnies or something.


#20

jwhouk

jwhouk

I suspect they're going to issue one white and one dark for every player, and whatever team they end up on will be how they determine what sweater they'll wear.


#21

Vrii

Vrii

You know what's awesome? Getting shut out 6-0 by a team that played last night.

Yep, great performance tonight all around.


#22

Timmus

Timmus

I know it's rough but think of the drafts picks.


#23

jwhouk

jwhouk

You'll pardon if I don't say anything. My boys have been on a roller coaster ride over the last month and a half (five wins, five losses, six wins). I'm not sure if they're the worst bunch of players in the world or if they could beat the '57 Habs in their skivvies.


#24

Timmus

Timmus

Did Shane O'brien manage to crack the line up for Nashville?

Central division looks tough for a team that's not Chicago or Detroit. I think the the predators will make the playoffs.


#25

jwhouk

jwhouk

SOB is essentially taking Tootoo's place while he's out, so yes.


#26

Timmus

Timmus

Well I'm sorry to hear that. Man did he infuriate me when he played for the Canucks.


#27

jwhouk

jwhouk

(reads about NHL suspension)

Yeah, I can see why. (sigh)


#28

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Sigh. Crosby still out from the effects of the concussion. Bylsma is tired of talking about it.


#29

Timmus

Timmus

You might say it's giving Bylsma...
... a real headache.


But seriously Crosby should take how ever much time it takes to FULLY recover before coming back lest this sort of thing plague the rest of his career.


#30

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Timmus said:
You might say it's giving Bylsma...:facepalm:... a real headache. :rimshot:

But seriously Crosby should take how ever much time it takes to FULLY recover before coming back lest this sort of thing plague the rest of his career.
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A certain someone never really recovered from this hit...


#31

Timmus

Timmus

True that. I think Crosby will be fine as long as he doesn't rush back. Unlike Lindross Crosby has the ability to maintain an upright cranium while playing hockey.


#32

jwhouk

jwhouk

Speaking of which - can someone please clear up the bell carillon that's set up shop in Matt Lombardi's head? We kinda need him.


#33

Jay

Jay

Fucken Refs
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Sometimes I wonder why I bother to watch hockey it really seems that 1 game out of every 3 are decided by flagrantly bias and incompetent officiating. Is it I hope I get to watch the occassional barn burner that makes me happy? Or is it misery that I so seek.

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#34

jwhouk

jwhouk

And all it took was to put J.P. Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuumont on a line with two kids called up from Milwaukee to help him regain his youth. :)


#35

ThatGrinningIdiot!

ThatGrinningIdiot!

I just watched some video's on the many fights my cousin has been in during his time within the NHL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYZBjUc_F-g

It's pretty amusing to see some of the comments/insults people have about him.


#36

jwhouk

jwhouk

...cousin?


#37

Covar

Covar

Carolina Hurricanes rookie Jeff Skinner has been promoted to the All-Star roster and hurricanes rookie defensman Jamie McBain has been added to the Rookie skills competition!

:D that makes 4 hurricanes participating this weekend, with 3 playing in the game. Best part? I have tickets.


#38

ThatGrinningIdiot!

ThatGrinningIdiot!

jwhouk said:
...cousin?
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Yes sir, that is my first cousin - plays in Russia now.


#39

jwhouk

jwhouk

Is it wrong to hope that this "Superdraft" thing fails miserably, along the lines of the glow puck?


#40

Covar

Covar

Yes. The Draft was awesome and the most fun I've had watching a hockey related program on VS. I didn't like the format change at first but now I think it's going to be a great weekend.


#41

jwhouk

jwhouk

Okay, I get it - it's like picking out sides on the pond. I guess even the guy for the Raleigh Observer would like to see this spread to other sports.

Only one problem: have any of these athletes EVER played a pickup game where they just chose up sides and played? In baseball, I'm almost betting they haven't. Sandlot baseball games went out the window (at least for most US/Canadian players) back in the 1980's.


#42

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

heehee, Kessel got picked last. Maybe if he'd try shooting from a different spot on the ice every once in a while...


#43

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

checkeredhat said:
heehee, Kessel got picked last. Maybe if he'd try shooting from a different spot on the ice every once in a while...
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See the problem with that is that you paid attention to the all star game. Whose bright idea was it to have it the same weekend as the NFL pro-bowl?


#44

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

HCGLNS said:
See the problem with that is that you paid attention to the all star game. Whose bright idea was it to have it the same weekend as the NFL pro-bowl?
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I don't see a problem with that at all. I don't think I could possibly care less about the NFL. I care even less about the NFL than I do for the CFL, which is already very little.


#45

Covar

Covar

HCGLNS said:
See the problem with that is that you paid attention to the all star game. Whose bright idea was it to have it the same weekend as the NFL pro-bowl?
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who watches the pro-bowl? That game is even less relevant than a college bowl.


#46

jwhouk

jwhouk

Of all four major league all-star games, the Pro Bowl is the most useless, impracticable and least interesting game of all. It's not even in the same worth-your-while level as the other three games (though I think the NBA ASG is slowly declining towards that point).


#47

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

I had to ask a friend of mine what the pro-bowl was, she informed it is American football's most boring game, because all the players are too afraid of injuring themselves before the superbowl to really play. Is that about right?


#48

jwhouk

jwhouk

Something like that. Imagine if they had a football all-star game the week before the Grey Cup - involving stars from all of the teams not playing in the Grey Cup.


#49

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

And yet six times as many people watched the pro bowl than watched the all star game.


#50

Covar

Covar

checkeredhat said:
I had to ask a friend of mine what the pro-bowl was, she informed it is American football's most boring game, because all the players are too afraid of injuring themselves before the superbowl to really play. Is that about right?
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That was right even when it was held after the Super Bowl. The game sucks.

It's not just injury concerns. Even with top level athletes Football isn't a game where you can put a team together in a week and expect high level results.


#51

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

HCGLNS said:
And yet six times as many people watched the pro bowl than watched the all star game.
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What can I say? Those crazy Americans love them some football.


#52

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

That's my point. The NHL needs to grow in the States and having a battle of two irrelevant games (the NHL being far more irrelevant) on the same day makes no sense.

One of these years I want a defenseman to just say "Fuck it." and flatten someone during the all star game.


#53

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Then you changed your point. Your initial point was :
See the problem with that is that you paid attention to the all star game
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My argument was just that the NFL is irrelevant to me, which has nothing to do with the NHL's audience in the USA.


#54

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

GOALIE FIGHT


#55

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

The Lovely Boehner said:
GOALIE FIGHT
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Your powers are weak, old man!


#56

Vrii

Vrii

DarkAudit said:
Your powers are weak, old man!
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You call that a goalie fight? This is a goalie fight:



Though I have to admit, that looked like a solid left.


#57

jwhouk

jwhouk

HCGLNS said:
That's my point. The NHL needs to grow in the States and having a battle of two irrelevant games (the NHL being far more irrelevant) on the same day makes no sense.
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How do you "grow in the States" when every single major media outlet in Canada wants all the teams in new markets to move to Canada?
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Oh, and that was a two-hit fight for Johnson.

Johnson hitting DiPietro, and DiPietro hitting the ice.


#58

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Turns out Johnson broke DiPietro's face.


#59

Vrii

Vrii

To be fair, that's about the equivalent of hitting a window with a sledgehammer - with DiPietro it was pretty much a foregone conclusion.


#60

jwhouk

jwhouk

I hope Johnson doesn't get a lengthy suspension for that. I mean, c'mon.


#61

Vrii

Vrii

Suspension would've had to come down already - looks like no punishment, and rightly so.


#62

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Predators 3, Red Wings 0. SUCK IT DETROIT


#63

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

jwhouk said:
I hope Johnson doesn't get a lengthy suspension for that. I mean, c'mon.
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I was a bit worried about that too. It was a clean hit, its unfortunate, but even DiPietro doesn't seem to have any regrets or ill-will about it.


#64

jwhouk

jwhouk

The Lovely Boehner said:
Predators 3, Red Wings 0. SUCK IT DETROIT
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Yeah Baby.

SK's one-handed shorty on Old MacDonald = Play of the YEAR.

Oh, and the CMoA of the night - intermission band. Small Time Rock Stars, a popular cover band in the Music City, were joined by some season ticket holder. Vince something. Oh, and he had a golfing buddy of him there from Phoenix, too. Funny, he didn't look like an "Alice".


#65

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Who are you talking about? Vince Gill? I went to a whole lot of games when I lived in Nashville, and the Small Time Rock Stars were the highlight of intermissions usually. Usually cover bands are really lame.


#66

jwhouk

jwhouk

Duuuude... Vince Gill sat in with STRS - and he brought along "his golfing buddy", Alice Cooper. They did "School's Out".

Almost made Pekka's shutout and Kostitsyn's one-handed shorty pale by comparison.


#67

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

MTL 4
BOS 5

6 goals in the last 4 minutes and currently 11 men in the penalty boxes.

You all need to be watching this game!


#68

Jay

Jay

Great game. So many fights. This was great hockey.


#69

HCGLNS

HCGLNS



MTL 6
BOS 8

At least the goalies had some fun, because they couldn't stop a shot last night.


#70

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Oh Nashville what were you thinking? You got Mike Fisher for a 2011 1st round pick and a 2nd/3rd round pick in 2012? And you called him a top 6 forward? He's top 6 only for teams that are bottom 6 not for play-off bound teams like yourself.

But we all knew this trade was coming, it was just a question of when and for how much.


#71

Jay

Jay

It's a hefty price but Nashville is a tough team and this makes them legitimately more dangerous once the real season begins.


#72

klew

klew

HCGLNS said:
Oh Nashville what were you thinking?
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They were hoping his wife would go to the games.


#73

jwhouk

jwhouk

Why'd we "hope" it would happen? It's not like we don't have country music singers in the stands every night.

AlTHOUGH... Now that you mention it... I wonder if Carrie "suggested" he approve a trade to N'ville...


#74

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

It's been well established that Fisher was going to Nashville (80%) or LA (20%) and has been known for almost the entire season. Sadly I think Nashville could have just taken his contract and offered a 2011 2nd round pick.


#75

Vrii

Vrii

I'm pretty happy to get a first for him, even if it's a fairly late one. Conditional third/second on top is icing.


#76

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

LETS GO PREDATORS

hopefully this works out better than the Forsberg fiasco


#77

jwhouk

jwhouk

Vrii said:
I'm pretty happy to get a first for him, even if it's a fairly late one. Conditional third/second on top is icing.
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It's probably not going to be a very good 1st pick for you, though. Especially if we do get into the 2nd round.
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The Lovely Boehner said:
LETS GO PREDATORS

hopefully this works out better than the Forsberg fiasco
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Oh, that wasn't a fiasco. What happened afterwards was a fiasco.


#78

Jay

Jay

Watch the Pens vs Iles highlights tonight. Over 12 players got ejected in this game. HOT DAMN


#79

Vrii

Vrii

jwhouk said:
It's probably not going to be a very good 1st pick for you, though. Especially if we do get into the 2nd round.
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For a third-line centre making over 4 mil/season? I'll take it.


#80

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Jay said:
Watch the Pens vs Iles highlights tonight. Over 12 players got ejected in this game. HOT DAMN
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That wasn't a hockey game, that was a mugging.

Close to 400 penalty minutes. Lots of suspensions on the way, including coaches.


#81

Jay

Jay

Pens finished the game with 7 players on the bench.


#82

jwhouk

jwhouk

The Mike Fisher era begins tonight in Nashville, as the Preds take on Colorado - who have brought back their former star from the 1990's (and a one-time former Predator), Peter Forsberg.

That may be the matchup of the night.


#83

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Predators win! Whooo!


#84

Mathias

Mathias

Jay said:
Pens finished the game with 7 players on the bench.
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Mario's pretty pissed about the ref's allowing this to go down.

"Hockey is a tough, physical game, and it always should be," the Penguins owner and Hall of Famer said in a statement released by the team. "But what happened Friday night on Long Island wasn't hockey. It was a travesty. It was painful to watch the game I love turn into a sideshow like that.
"The NHL had a chance to send a clear and strong message that those kinds of actions are unacceptable and embarrassing to the sport. It failed."


#85

Jay

Jay

Figured as much. Habs went through a similar ordeal a few days before this.

Odds are, when the Islanders saw that the Bruins got away with murder they opened up a case of whoopass on their rivals. They had NOTHING to lose anyways.


#86

jwhouk

jwhouk

Personally, I'm wondering if anyone is going to care about anything hockey related on Long Island in a few years. I'm thinking the Isles are going to bolt for either Canada or KC/Vegas in 2015.


#87

Vrii

Vrii

The Isles were out of line, sure, but Mario's a crybaby. It's just sad.


#88

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

He has a valid point, that game is not what the NHL is trying to sell today. That game will get more attention than any other game for a good long time and that's a regression of their marketing strategy and not good for the game.


#89

Vrii

Vrii

"If the events relating to Friday night reflect the state of the league, I need to rethink whether I want to be a part of it."

That's the part of the quote that really reads like a pouting child, to me. And coming from the (co)owner of the team paying Matt Cooke, who throws worse hits with more blatant attempt to injure on a regular basis.


#90

Jay

Jay

Lemieux's tantrum certainly could have used a little self-flagellation over his own dirty team and, in particular, the antics over the past few years of Pittsburgh's serial offender, Matt Cooke. But simply to dismiss the Penguins owner as a hypocrite is too easy, too convenient for those who use ridicule to butt-end every mouth that opens against violence in hockey.

The man is respected in the league and his opinion matters. The Pens finished the fucken game with 7 players on the bench. There was a problem with the way the game was handled, as they could have slapped a 5 or 10 minute long powerplay after the dirty hits but they didn't. They could have suspended players for far more than 4 or 9 games as they CLEARLY intended to injury, the act of what the Islanders were doing was flagrant. Godard got 10 games for jumping on the ice when an Islander player went after their goalie after he was removed from another fight on the ice. This is a clear indication that the game went out of hand and that player should have gotten suspended as well. Did he? No.

In the end, the league weren't harsh enough and didn't pass a message.

Fighting is part of the sport. Throwing your gloves for the the whole game distracts from the game and isn't what hockey is all about.

Matt Cooke is a piece of shit and I wished he was the one who would have been on the receiving end of one of those cheap shots but seriously, Tangredi didn't do anything to deserve what he got to him. To even consider, "Well, he's Matt Cooke's teammate, he doesn't deserve any sympathy, shut up mario, matt cookie is a POS" is asinine and mentally retarded.

No offense.


#91

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

None taken.


#92

Vrii

Vrii

Jay said:
Tangredi didn't do anything to deserve what he got to him. To even consider, "Well, he's Matt Cooke's teammate, he doesn't deserve any sympathy, shut up mario, matt cookie is a POS" is asinine and mentally retarded.

No offense.
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I don't think anyone's said anything of the sort.


#93

Jay

Jay

Yes you did.

"Sounds like pouting from the owner, yet he pays Matt Cooke and he's a dirty player..... INSERT WHAT I SAID HERE"

Why?

Because that's what you were insinuating to be short.

If not?

Then... what WAS THE POINT OF YOUR POST?


#94

Vrii

Vrii

The Isles were out of line. First words in the first post I made on the subject.

But by all means, continue jamming the words you want me to have said down my throat.


#95

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

As a superstitious hockey fan, I believe that the win by the Leafs and Kessel's good fortune has been paid for by the pain and suffering I experienced last night. Clearly when the Leafs win the cup this year, I should get my name on the Cup.


#96

jwhouk

jwhouk

Someone get HCGLNS back on his medications! He's obviously delirious.


#97

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Vrii said:
I don't think anyone's said anything of the sort.
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I've seen quite a bit of it outside the forum.


#98

Vrii

Vrii

So have I, and I'm sure that's what made Jay go off like he did.

As I said before, the Isles were out of line, and Gillies and Martin are probably both lucky they didn't get more. At the same time, Mario isn't really convincing anyone that he's worried about the state of the game by speaking up when his players are on the receiving end and conveniently staying quiet when they're the ones trying to knock other players' heads off from behind.

And that, in case Jay hasn't picked up on it yet, was the point I was making in the first post.


#99

blotsfan

blotsfan

Pegula officially the Sabres' owner. Obviously so far its just talk, but he really seems like a guy who wants to win more than anything.


#100

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

heh Eric Staal knocked his younger brother Mark Staal out of the game last night.


#101

Covar

Covar

yea, it's always fun getting to watch the canes play the Rangers. Marc and Eric get to face each other a lot more than Eric and Jordan do, and neither pulls any punches. If anything they both play harder against each other.


#102

Mathias

Mathias

HCGLNS said:
heh Eric Staal knocked his younger brother Mark Staal out of the game last night.
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That's going to make for an interesting Thanksgiving conversation.

Isn't the youngest of the four brothers trying out for the NHL soon?

*whoop* nevermind he's on the Canes AHL team.


#103

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Mathias said:
That's going to make for an interesting Thanksgiving conversation.

Isn't the youngest of the four brothers trying out for the NHL soon?

*whoop* nevermind he's on the Canes AHL team.
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Jared is under contract to the Hurricanes and playing for their AHL and ECHL affiliates.

Weird, because he was supposed to be the best of the bunch.


#104

Covar

Covar

2 more to go to get our set bonus.


#105

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Also, GO LEAFS!


#106

Covar

Covar

HCGLNS said:
Also, GO LEAFS!
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You reminded me.










#107

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Better start winning again Carolina, you 8th place isn't locked up yet. Toronto, New Jersey and the Islanders are coming for it!


#108

Covar

Covar

yea, it was a shame the Rangers game went to a shootout, still I guess 3 points out of 7th and a game back is better than 4.

Man I long for the day that the Hurricanes become one of the top teams in the league. Then we can get mocked mercilessly.


#109

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

You don't have the media exposure to get mocked.

Don't knock those 1 point losses, they are keeping you in the playoffs right now. That's the new NHL parity for you, not the salary cap but the 3 point game.


#110

Covar

Covar

HCGLNS said:
You don't have the media exposure to get mocked.

Don't knock those 1 point losses, they are keeping you in the playoffs right now. That's the new NHL parity for you, not the salary cap but the 3 point game.
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I know. I wish we had the media exposure too. As young as we are we're in great shape, and I think we have great potential to grow even further.


#111

jwhouk

jwhouk

You also have something the Leafs haven't had in over 40 years.

A Stanley Cup title.


#112

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Canes win! Staal knocked out of game with injury!

DUN DUN DUN!


#113

Covar

Covar

valient effort against the habs, but not quite enough. Impact of Staal gone? Possibly, but I'm not sure I'm buying that.


#114

blotsfan

blotsfan

Sabres get Brad Boyes for a second round pick.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6166050

I think this is a good trade for us. A second round pick, isn't a steep price and the blues fans I know say he has talent but probably needed a change of scenery. I'd say this is a trade that makes sense for both teams.


#115

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

For those of you in the states that don't get how much Canadians love hockey.

Our primary sports network had a team of over twenty hockey analysts talk for over eight hours today on the various trades that occurred during the NHL trade deadline day.

And not a single trade is really even worth talking about.


#116

jwhouk

jwhouk

(nods sagely)

The NHL would essentially be a niche sport if it was only played in the US.


#117

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

http://www.downgoesbrown.com/



#118

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Well... I gotta chime in for my team here... GO FLAMES!

If they can keep playing the way they have been lately they might actually make the playoffs... who knows. If they can keep playing the way they have been playing they might not get swept in four games either
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#119

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Right off a 9-game suspension for the melee vs. Pittsburgh, Trevor Gillies hasn't learned a damn thing.


#120

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Stay classy Trevor... stay classy...


#121

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Real shame is that those beautiful goals the young kids on the Islanders scored won't get the attention they deserve.


#122

Piotyr

Piotyr

Nice to see the Blackhawks finally make an appearance this season.


#123

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

8 wins in a row and starting to play like defending champs. Last night was an odd game each team played like chumps for two periods and champs for one.


#124

jwhouk

jwhouk

And the anti-Chara rants begin in 3, 2, 1...


#125

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

No one is going to talk about how awesome Jerome Iginla is? I mean, we all know it already, but the media seemed to be all over Iginla yesterday after his kickass penalty shot on Sunday.


#126

jwhouk

jwhouk

Bite me, checkeredhat.


#127

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Lets all bite checkeredhat he's good eating!

And why would we need to start Chara hating? Foolish jwhouk, we never stopped.


#128

Jay

Jay

At best? 3 games.

End of season for MaxPac, for sure.


#129

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

0 games for Chara. Mostly because Montreal is full of diving wussies and this is just another example.


#130

Jay

Jay

Pac dove into the glass divider and played dirty as he pretended to be hurt to get that 5 minute PP.


#131

Vrii

Vrii

Now he's pretending about his concussion and broken neck!

That said, I don't think the hit was nearly as bad as some people are making it out to be. Late hit, interference penalty, done.


#132

Jay

Jay

Intent, history, pushed into it.



In a fair world? Should be gone for the season himself as well. 0 games? You're just asking him to get shanked the next time he comes to town.


#133

Vrii

Vrii

History? You mean his zero supplementary discipline in a 13 year career?

Hard to argue intent, too. A still frame of the hit is pretty different from watching it in real time. Also not sure how you give someone a season-long suspension for a perfectly legal hit that happened to be a second or two late.


#134

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

He means between the two players.


#135

Vrii

Vrii

A little shove after a goal? I really don't think that factors into a claim of intentionally trying to end someone's career.


#136

Jay

Jay

It was enough for Chara to interrupt game celebrations and trying to take Pacs head off twice the next game they met and then finally managed to do it 2 games later.

I wish people can take their fan glasses off and see things how they are. This play is about as blatant as they come short of swinging your stick and clubbing someone into oblivion like McSorley did on Brashear.


#137

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

I actually think the McSorley hit wasn't that bad.

We'll probably see action on the Chara hit soon, Air Canada is threatening to pull sponsorship if the NHL does not clean up their act.


#138

Timmus

Timmus

Covar said:
You reminded me.

Leaf jokes






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Late to this party but.

How come Hamilton will never get an NHL franchise?




















If the NHL gave Hamilton an NHL team Toronto would want one too.


#139

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Hamilton has a franchise, they are called the Buffalo Sabres.


#140

Timmus

Timmus

Touche.

Well played Alf.


#141

Vrii

Vrii

Jay said:
I wish people can take their fan glasses off and see things how they are.
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Heh.


#142

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

The one thing that seems to be sticking with me about these things, is that since they did not intend to harm the player, they do not suffer the consequences. I moving more and more towards hard set punishments for penalties, leaving the bench is already a 10 game suspension and it happens very rarely as a result. Any finding of intent to injure, suspension starts at 15 games, if the refs on the ice see fit to give you a game misconduct you are suspended for a single game as a minimum.


#143

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Anyone wanna buy a hockey team?


#144

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

DarkAudit said:
Anyone wanna buy a hockey team?
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Yeah, knew this was coming from the Teachers. They have a strong push to convert assets to cash right now with the wave of retirees expected. Still they made off like bandits, initial investment of $50M and now will get paid $1.3-1.6B. Already two buyers ready to bid, once they get past the legal riff raff.


#145

Mathias

Mathias

Crosby skates today! Owwrright!


#146

jwhouk

jwhouk

DarkAudit said:
Anyone wanna buy a hockey team?
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Only if I get to move them to New Orleans.


#147

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

The sale of MLSE is actually very very bad for the NHL as a whole. The two primary buyers are communications giants and intend to use their cable franchises to broadcast the Leafs games at a loss. Not a financial loss to themselves but by selling themselves the rights at below market value. Thus in the eyes of the NHL finance committee the Leafs go from being hugely successful and a source of income sharing to the other teams, to a team that now needs revenue distributed to it.


#148

Covar

Covar

I realized something about the Leafs and Canadiens. They're the Tom Bradys of the NHL.


#149

jwhouk

jwhouk

I got an idea: Let Balsillie buy the team.


#150

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

I hear the Leafs are gonna send Remier back to the Marlies.

Great idea!
/sarcasm


#151

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

The problem was not starting JS Giguerre last night, the problem was not starting him at center! Seriously, blaming a goalie for not winning when the team doesn't score.


#152

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Oh I'm not blaming the goaltending, that was clearly not the issue. My comment was unrelated to their performance on Thursday.


#153

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Multimillion dollar goalscorers: 0 goals
Call ups, journeymen and defencemen: 5 goals

...whattus the fuckus, crazy game.:)


#154

jwhouk

jwhouk

Number of fourth-generation hat-tricks in NHL: 1.
Number of hockey immortals smiling down upon their grandson/great grandson: 2.
Number of happy Predators fans: 17,113+.


#155

Timmus

Timmus

Sick, the Canucks just clenched the west and are two wins away from the presidents trophy!

Won't mean a thing in two weeks but for now it's nice.


#156

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Hopefully someone else will knock out Chicago before they meet Vancouver in the playoffs.


#157

Timmus

Timmus

Third times a charm.

Looks like a first round match up to me.


#158

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Or as per the standard Presidents Trophy winners, golfing after the first round.


Looks like Malhotra will return next season which is great news.


#159

Timmus

Timmus

Golfing after the first is still better than not making the first at all. 2007-2008 red wings won it all though so who knows.

I agree it is great news he better wear a visor if and when he does come back.


#160

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

I really don't understand how NHL teams can get insurance for their players that do not wear visors or full face protection. Had that surgery been unsuccessful, he'd be done for life and paid out on the insurers dime.


#161

Timmus

Timmus

I think the NHLPA might have some kind of disability pension...eye injury looks to be a pretty low priority for them though.

They probably pay gargantuan premiums. Visor or no this injury seems kind of like a freak thing. I have noticed any kind of catalogue of similar events or outcry about visors the way I've seen about concussions.


#162

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

You'd think that so simple a thing as the full shield that the juniors wear be an easy way to remedy these injuries. But alas other factors are keeping it at bay.

Regardless, that's not why I'm here. Buffalo tonight knocked my beloved Buds out of the playoff race and onto the golf course.

So go Capitals I guess, maybe.


#163

jwhouk

jwhouk

One more point and we're in.


#164

jwhouk

jwhouk

Playoffs, baby. :D


#165

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

LET'S GO PREDATORS


This is the year we win a playoff series (or 4)


#166

blotsfan

blotsfan

Sabres clinch too!!!


#167

Covar

Covar

Hurricanes devastated the Thrashers last night 6-1. Which means it all comes down to today for the Hurricanes and the Rangers. Game 82. If the Canes win they're in Rangers are out. Lose in OT the Rangers must lose somehow. Lose in regulation, so must the Rangers.

So glad I have tickets to the Lightning @ Hurricanes game tonight.


#168

jwhouk

jwhouk

Methinks the boys might not go full-out tonight vs. the Blues in Saint Loo.


#169

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

jwhouk said:
Methinks the boys might not go full-out tonight vs. the Blues in Saint Loo.
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If Preds win, they have home ice advantage in the first round, where we have one of the best home records in the NHL. I think they play all out.


#170

Covar

Covar

:(


#171

Piotyr

Piotyr

No, thank you, Minnesota.


#172

jwhouk

jwhouk

DUCK SEASON! FIRE!


#173



BErt

Oof. Wings had to hang on at the end, but I'll take it. Datsyuk is amazing.


#174

jwhouk

jwhouk

Mr. Carrie Underwood is tres RAD.

Now, if we could only convince Taylor Swift to start hitting on Ovie...


#175

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

jwhouk said:
Mr. Carrie Underwood is tres RAD.

Now, if we could only convince Taylor Swift to start hitting Ovie...
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FTFY ;)


#176

jwhouk

jwhouk

No, no, we want Ms. Swift to use her feminine wiles to convince Ovie to ask for a trade to NASHVILLE...


#177

Timmus

Timmus

Preds make it to the second round for the first time in franchise history. Are you stoked jwhouk?


#178



BErt

Timmus said:
Preds make it to the second round for the first time in franchise history. Are you stoked jwhouk?
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Yeah, congrats Pred fans ( I think there are a few of you here)...I wanted Chicago/Vancouver to go 7, but I'm rooting for Vancouver now because I am not looking forward to playing a hungry Nashville team, especially the way the regular season went.


#179

Mathias

Mathias

Mike Richards should be getting a 1 game suspension for that hit on Connelly. But he won't because Colin Campbell is a pussy.


#180

Piotyr

Piotyr

Blackhawks have been playing with house money since game 4, but hey, as long as it keeps winning...


#181

Timmus

Timmus

Piotyr said:
Blackhawks have been playing with house money since game 4, but hey, as long as it keeps winning...
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Good game tonight. I am livid with the Canucks that they didn't bring this kind of effort to games 4 and 5. Credit where credit is due the Blackhawks are a very good team but the Canucks made them look even better in those two games.


#182

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Awesome find of the day:

Every goal horn in the NHL.


#183

Covar

Covar

I disagree with the ordering (I know which horn I certainly prefer to hear), but that is indeed an awesome find.


#184

blotsfan

blotsfan

Sabres...game 7....head going to explode....


#185

Jay

Jay

Tough luck. :(


#186

Timmus

Timmus

Huge respect to the Chicago Blackhawks especially Corey Crawford. They went down fighting and the team and it's fans should be proud of their effort.

I was sorry to see that result Blotsfan. I like the Sabres.

Big game for the Habs tomorrow. Any nervous montreal fans in here?

It's been a good day for me. Canucks shake the tomahawk wielding monkey off their back, I find out I'm getting a three day weekend this week, and I got a free cup of coffee just now. Everything's coming up Timmus today.


#187

Piotyr

Piotyr

I thought they had it when Toews got that shorty. That was unreal.

Oddly, though, I'm not really that upset. The team was gassed all year, they won the Cup last year, they made it a series and pushed what was easily the best team in the NHL this year to the very edge before losing (on what was admittedly one of the most terrible turnovers I've ever seen, and on a change to boot!).


#188

Timmus

Timmus

That shorty...:Leyla:

Yeah. I think that series was a terrific ride. I think that series needed to end that way. It wouldn't have been right for the Hawks to get swept but it would have been just as wrong for Vancouver to blow a 3-0 lead after winning the president's trophy. At any rate I think the Hawks are going to have an amazing team for years to come. Enjoy it Piotyr.


#189

Jay

Jay

Terrible terrible giveaway by Campoli.

Yes, nervous and excited for tonight.


#190

jwhouk

jwhouk

Timmus said:
Preds make it to the second round for the first time in franchise history. Are you stoked jwhouk?
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Hee hee.... best thing that's happened to me in WEEKS.


#191

Timmus

Timmus

PK Fucking Suban ties it late in the third!

He's so clutch.

Jwhouk, although I'm happy for you and the predators fanbase I do hope the series is short and in Vancouver's favour. May the best team win.

Doh Boston gets the OT winner. Better luck next year Habs.


#192

Mathias

Mathias

Fuck you Tampax Gay.

Ugh, Pens would have toasted these bitches if they actually had a scoring line.

I hope that Finnish fuckhead, Hedman, breaks his leg.


#193

jwhouk

jwhouk

Right now, I'm just hoping we can score a goal against LuLu.


#194

Timmus

Timmus

jwhouk said:
Right now, I'm just hoping we can score a goal against LuLu.
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They should be able to get something done. I have a feeling there isn't going to be a lot of pretty goals this series as long as Rinne and Luongo bring their A game.

Should be a good game tonight. I expect Nashville to have a lot of jump this game since their coach called everyone but Rinne out the last game.

I'm hoping Shane O'Brien helps his former club and takes a bonehead penalty at a crucial moment in the game otherwise I have a bad feeling Nashville takes this one.


#195

Timmus

Timmus

Huge come back brewing for the Red Wings. Can they seal the deal?


#196

Adam

Adammon

Timmus said:
Huge come back brewing for the Red Wings. Can they seal the deal?
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I'm praying they can! I'd love a Canucks v Detroit showdown ;)


#197

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

I haven't really been following the playoffs much this year, I'll be honest. But these semifinals have me pretty excited. On one hand we've got San Jose and Vancouver, which I just love to see, and on the other, Tampa Bay- TAMPA BAY, seriously- and Boston. Who saw that one coming?


#198

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Two cup winners from the east and two cup newcomers from the west? Which monkey will be exorcised in the west? Who will be the goat in the east? Will I fall asleep during all the west games? How much beer will I consume during the east games? It's all a mystery!


#199

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

HCGLNS said:
Two cup winners from the east and two cup newcomers from the west? Which monkey will be exorcised in the west? Who will be the goat in the east? Will I fall asleep during all the west games? How much beer will I consume during the east games? It's all a mystery!
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Man, Im actually super excited for the West games. Though I do love to see the Bruins play just about anyone.


#200

Adam

Adammon

I interrupt your regular scheduled broadcast for the following:

JETS JETS JETS JETS JETS JETS JETS JETS JETS


#201

Covar

Covar

so a League restructuring will be happening soon I hope.


#202

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Covar said:
so a League restructuring will be happening soon I hope.
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If it does happen that the Thrasher do move to Winnipeg this year, then the league will reshuffle next year. It is too late for the upcoming season.


#203

Adam

Adammon

If they move Detroit to the Eastern Conference, there will be hell to pay. HELL.

I will have to be a Jets fan by default.


#204

Covar

Covar

They should just make it original 6 and everyone else. Fans of original 6 (lol) would be able continue feeling falsely superior to other fans and teams, and everyone else wouldn't have to deal with them except for the post season.


#205

jwhouk

jwhouk

:facepalm:


#206

Timmus

Timmus



Stanley cup finals for the first time since 1994. Awww hell yeah!


#207

Adam

Adammon

It pains me to see that. PAIN.


#208

Timmus

Timmus

Oh come on, let Vancouver have it's moment.


#209

jwhouk

jwhouk

Should Tampa win tonight, you might as well tell BC to start planning the parade.

Boston might give them a run for the money, though.


#210

Covar

Covar

Boston won.


#211

Jay

Jay

Game scorer from a guy who should have been suspended one game.


#212

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Not a single penalty in the game either.


#213

Mathias

Mathias

Timmus said:
Oh come on, let Vancouver have it's moment.
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I'm rooting for Vancouver. It's time a Canadian team finally wins the cup. At least they're not Montreal.


#214

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Mathias said:
I'm rooting for Vancouver. It's time a Canadian team finally wins the cup. At least they're not Montreal.
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This. And, well... fuck Boston.


#215

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Go Boston!


#216

Timmus

Timmus

The wait between the conference final the stanley cup final is killing me. I was ten the last time the Canucks were in it.


#217

Timmus

Timmus

Press conference today. Winnipeg is back. For real this time.


#218

Adam

Adammon

Except they won't be the Jets. And it won't be "Winnipeg _____". It'll be "Manitoba ______"

Grr. That's stupid.


#219

Timmus

Timmus

I'm sure the good people of Winnipeg are pleased all the same. Oh well.


#220

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Adammon said:
Except they won't be the Jets. And it won't be "Winnipeg _____". It'll be "Manitoba ______"

Grr. That's stupid.
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Where'd you find that?
All I can find is that there is no official word on what the team will be called yet.
Added at: 18:15
Also, this,
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog...lling-season-tickets-1-hour-be?urn=nhl-wp6063
PD: Are you guys still accepting Thrashers season ticket deposits?
THRASHERS: We are! Where would you like to sit? How many seats are you looking for?
PD: Downstairs would be great. And just two.
THRASHERS: And what will you be using your tickets for?
PD: To watch some exciting Thrashers hockey in 2011-12.
THRASHERS: In the lower bowl, the lowest we have are $999 and they're in Sections 201-209. Do you want me to tell you the best available there?
PD: And this is for the Atlanta Thrashers' 2011-12 season?
THRASHERS: Uh-huh.
PD: Next season? In the NHL? In Atlanta?
THRASHERS: Uh-huh. Do you want me to tell you the best available tickets?
PD: Sure.
THRASHERS: We actually have some in Row A, in Section 208 and in Section 202. I would suggest Section 208, which has better angles. How does that sound?
PD: Honestly, it sounds a little fishy to me, because they're actually announcing that the team is moving to Winnipeg this morning. In, like, an hour. Are you guys aware of that?
THRASHERS: I'm not aware of it. They haven't announced anything to us yet.
PD: Huh. Yeah, so, I'm probably not going to be able to use those season tickets, if that's OK?
THRASHERS: I'm sorry, what was the purpose of this call?
PD: To find out if you guys are selling season tickets to a team that's no longer there.
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#221

Adam

Adammon

checkeredhat said:
Where'd you find that?
All I can find is that there is no official word on what the team will be called yet.
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The mayor doesn't seem to think it'll be the Jets. But the NHL owns the trademark and Bettman seems open to giving it back to them. That may cause some confusion with the sportsbooks but stranger things have happened. I hope to God it isn't the Manitoba Moose.


#222

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Adammon said:
The mayor doesn't seem to think it'll be the Jets. But the NHL owns the trademark and Bettman seems open to giving it back to them. That may cause some confusion with the sportsbooks but stranger things have happened. I hope to God it isn't the Manitoba Moose.
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That name keeps popping up. Please don't let it be that.

I think just about everyone wants it to be the Jets. Even some of the players want to wear the ol' Jets jerseys. But will it be the Manitoba Jets or the Winnipeg Jets? I guess they're trying to sell the team as Manitoba's team, not just Winnipeg's team, because that rink needs to be sold out every night in order to make the NHL any money and Winnipeg's only got, what? 700 000 people? 800 000? So they want to draw in people from the rest of Manitoba too (Which I think they could do no matter what they called the team, people are just desperate for some hockey over there).


#223

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

The name keeps popping up because True North owns the Moose.

I think there will be a backlash if they don't call it anything but the Winnipeg Jets.


#224

Adam

Adammon

checkeredhat said:
That name keeps popping up. Please don't let it be that.

I think just about everyone wants it to be the Jets. Even some of the players want to wear the ol' Jets jerseys. But will it be the Manitoba Jets or the Winnipeg Jets? I guess they're trying to sell the team as Manitoba's team, not just Winnipeg's team, because that rink needs to be sold out every night in order to make the NHL any money and Winnipeg's only got, what? 700 000 people? 800 000? So they want to draw in people from the rest of Manitoba too (Which I think they could do no matter what they called the team, people are just desperate for some hockey over there).
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I think that whole 'has to be sold out every night' is a crock of shit. Bettman doesn't seem to have a problem with Phoenix games being half empty, or Tampa, or Carolina, or Anaheim, or Nashville... But for some reason, Canadian teams are only viable if sold our every night. Fucking Bettman.


#225

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

So what happens to the Manitoba Moose (AHL) now that the NHL is back in town?


#226

Adam

Adammon

HCGLNS said:
So what happens to the Manitoba Moose (AHL) now that the NHL is back in town?
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Manitoba Moose are being moved out to St Johns, NFLD.


#227

Covar

Covar

Adammon said:
I think that whole 'has to be sold out every night' is a crock of shit. Bettman doesn't seem to have a problem with Phoenix games being half empty, or Tampa, or Carolina, or Anaheim, or Nashville... But for some reason, Canadian teams are only viable if sold our every night. Fucking Bettman.
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hey, Carolina is in the upper 80% capacity each night.

We're a small market, but they do all right for themselves.


#228

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Not sure why they say they have to have a sell out every night without some form of expected revenue to comment against. The new team will be in tough though, they will be playing in an arena that is the smallest by far in the NHL. Though a small arena work wonders for the Alouettes.


#229

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Adammon said:
I think that whole 'has to be sold out every night' is a crock of shit. Bettman doesn't seem to have a problem with Phoenix games being half empty, or Tampa, or Carolina, or Anaheim, or Nashville... But for some reason, Canadian teams are only viable if sold our every night. Fucking Bettman.
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Someone at the Star did the math on it, and itwas pretty much accurate. I think they did the math with their own estimated ticket price, and assuming the team was salary capped out. But the Winnipeg rink seats fewer people than the one in Atlanta (Though I doubt it will ever be half as empty).

That being said, yeah, its pretty clear Bettman is not happy about this. And its hilarious.

Also you forgot Phoenix, which came real close to losing the Coyotes to Winnipeg earlier this season.


#230

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

So who's it going to be, tonight? Bruins or Canucks? I'm really hoping the Canucks's extra rest gives them the edge. But I'm expecting the Bruins to be playing a very physical game right out of the gate.
Also, anyone know where I can watch online? TSN doesn't seem to be streaming it like usual.
*Nevermind, CBC is streaming it*


#231

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

So does Burrows get anything else for biting?


#232

Adam

Adammon

HCGLNS said:
So does Burrows get anything else for biting?
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I think Bergeron gave him the finger.


#233

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Adammon said:
I think Bergeron gave him the finger.
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Wakka wakka wakka!


#234

Adam

Adammon

So, Bettman said that Winnipeg had to sell 13000 season tickets in order to make Winnipeg a viable team. I thought that was a pretty lofty goal, after all, Winnipeg isn't exactly a huge market. Expectations were that they would try to sell that many tickets in the month before the governors meet.

They sold out in an hour.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/president-expects-quick-sale-remaining-nhl-season-tickets-080006491.html

Wow. Take that you fucking prick, Bettman.


#235

Jay

Jay

Bettman can suck my dick.

Go Canada.


#236

Covar

Covar

Adammon said:
So, Bettman said that Winnipeg had to sell 13000 season tickets in order to make Winnipeg a viable team. I thought that was a pretty lofty goal, after all, Winnipeg isn't exactly a huge market. Expectations were that they would try to sell that many tickets in the month before the governors meet.

They sold out in an hour.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/president-expects-quick-sale-remaining-nhl-season-tickets-080006491.html

Wow. Take that you fucking prick, Bettman.
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I'm sure he gladly will.

So you thought it was a lofty goal tickets sold out in 17 minutes and he's the prick?


#237

Adam

Adammon

Covar said:
I'm sure he gladly will.

So you thought it was a lofty goal tickets sold out in 17 minutes and he's the prick?
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He's a prick for thinking that Atlanta is a better hockey market than Winnipeg. Considering there's only 15000 seats in the MTS Centre, yeah I thought that it was a bier lofty...after all, he didn't put that stipulation on any of e sunbelt teams.


#238

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Now it's war. Aaron Rome absolutely destroyed Nathan Horton with a late hit. Horton stretchered off. Rome ejected. Twitter goes berserk.


#239

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

DarkAudit said:
Now it's war. Aaron Rome absolutely destroyed Nathan Horton with a late hit. Horton stretchered off. Rome ejected. Twitter goes berserk.
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Yeah, I wasn't really rooting for anyone in particular, but I've grown sick of the Canucks' dirty plays. Now my sister and I are both making enemies on Facebook rootin' for the Bruins. Besides, Boston's got more Canadians on the team anyway.

Seeing them own the puck like this is fantastic, and is it just me or is the Boston crowd even more insane than the Vancouver one?


#240

Adam

Adammon

You've got some of the worst dregs of thug hockey play in the Bruins, and you're concerned about Canucks' dirty plays? You can't blame Bertuzzi any more, that was 7 years ago and he plays for Detroit now. Let's not forget Chara riding Pacioretty into the turnbuckle (Which fractured one of his vertebrae). Or Paille's hit on Sawada back in February (which echoed Rome's hit pretty closely, with the same 4 game punishment)


#241

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Adammon said:
You've got some of the worst dregs of thug hockey play in the Bruins, and you're concerned about Canucks' dirty plays? You can't blame Bertuzzi any more, that was 7 years ago and he plays for Detroit now. Let's not forget Chara riding Pacioretty into the turnbuckle (Which fractured one of his vertebrae). Or Paille's hit on Sawada back in February (which echoed Rome's hit pretty closely, with the same 4 game punishment)
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Yet its the Canucks who so far in this series have done the biting, the illegal hits, and the many, many dives.

I don't intend to defend the Bruins. I know Chara's history, and I know Boston's reputation. But in this series, they've been playing a cleaner game. I'd rather a team full of Canucks playing a clean game take the cup than a team called the Canucks playing a dirty one.

And I can already hear the argument "Sure, but how do you think they got to the finals in the first place?" Fair enough, but its not like there's a third team to pick, and that doesn't change the Canucks' behaviour. The Canucks themselves have gotten where they are playing a dirty game as well, and by getting some lucky calls in their favour. Subjective officiating is unfortunately part of the game, and until the NHL starts actually enforcing their rules, dirty plays have their place too.

Don't mistake me for some blind Boston Bruins loyalist. I'm not a fan of any one team, I just want to see a good game. That's hard to get nowadays. If the Canucks change their game, maybe I'll be convinced to cheer on the "Canadian" team.

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I do feel bad for Lou though. Great goalie, despite the performance last night.
He really should have been pulled. Keeping him in net there was just completely unfair to him, and didn't do him or the Canucks' morale any favours. He was so shaken up and suddenly full of doubt he was stopping pucks and actually checking behind him to see if he had let them through.


#242

Adam

Adammon

Oh god, the biting. C'mere checkeredhat, I'm going to stuff my fingers which are encased in thick rubber in your mouth. What are you going to do? You bite. If you don't want to get bitten, you don't put purposely put your fingers inside someone else's mouth with intent to injure. I'm getting pretty tired of seeing even the Bruins coach commenting on the biting. And the taunting of Burrows by sticking their fingers in his face is not exactly helping.

Maybe it's just the Bruins and the Canucks matchup, but it's definitely an uglier series than all the previous ones combined. The Canucks played a pretty clean game the first period last night - it obviously didn't last.

As for Luongo being a great goalie, we'll just have to agree to disagree on that. (I think he's a complete flake.)


#243

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Adammon said:
Maybe it's just the Bruins and the Canucks matchup, but it's definitely an uglier series than all the previous ones combined.
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On this, we agree. I can't help but wonder what (if any) kind of coverage this is getting in the US. These kinds of displays are not exactly great for expanding the fanbase and shaking off the negative hockey stereotypes some have.

Luongo definitely has a flakey tendency. He just doesn't seem to have the head for when the pressure is really on. But his stats don't lie, when he's on, he's ON.


#244

Jay

Jay

The hit? Solid hockey play. Stop admiring your pass IMO and look at the guy coming as the hit was a clear north/south hit. If he didn't get hurt no one would have given a shit.

And the fact that the BRUINS get a very favorable call once again reveals the league's hard on for them.


#245

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Series is all tied up! Lets go Bruins! Need to win a road game boys!


#246

Jay

Jay

It's pathetic that the Habs were their toughest opponents. Vancouver is making it look easy.


#247

Timmus

Timmus

It's not paper bag time yet but these guys don't always make it easy to root for em. UGH 5 game here we come.


#248

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Ha ha ha, I hope the Canucks take the series being out scored 139-3 as it almost is so far.


#249

Timmus

Timmus

One...more...win....


#250

Jay

Jay

Man it must have burned the Bruins, their fans and their whiny media real good to see Lapierre score that game winner.

Here's to Nucks winning Game 6!


#251

Jay

Jay

What an epic choke from Luongo.


#252

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Shocked? I am not.

Again this series is going to end 6-56 goalwise with Van taking it in 7.


#253

Timmus

Timmus

no words just :mad::(:facepalm:


#254

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

I was busy playing Twilight Imperium at a friend's house and it went even longer than I anticipated, so I texted another friend of mine, who's made it clear to me she is rooting for the Canucks and does not approve of my cheering for Boston, to find out the score.

Me: "What's the score?"
Her: "I don't want to talk about it"
Me: :D


#255

Timmus

Timmus

Did you win hat?


#256

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Gonna be a fun game 7, lets go Bruins!


#257

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Timmus said:
Did you win hat?
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No, I should have though. It was REALLY close. Also tonight I found out that the guy who did win, shouldn't have, because he declared his Secret Objective outside of the objective phase. I needed 3 victory points, I had completed the public objective on the board (+1), and was next in line for the Imperial strategy(+2), so would have won immediately on my next turn. First time playing it. Fun game.
Back to the NHL: Oh man I can't wait to get home from work tomorrow so I can watch that game! I'm off at 5, too, so I can stop at the LCBO and get some beer on the way home!


#258

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Here we go.....


#259

Jay

Jay

LOLuongo


#260

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Oh man Bergeron.


#261

Jay

Jay

Let it be known that the hardest competition that the Bruins had was against the Montreal Canadians, who played without their #1 and #4 defencemen and a top 6 forward.


#262

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Congratulations Bruins.

Next year, Predators are goin all the way.


#263

Covar

Covar

Tim Thomas was as outstanding as he ever is. The Canucks were just undisciplined team. Boston just seemed to keep the same composure that they had through out the year.


#264

Jay

Jay

Riots ongoing in Vancouver... first time all night someone in a Canuck jersey showed some fight.


#265

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Keep that shit classy Vancouver. Queue up the news reports tomorrow of police brutality after 30 guys have to wrangle 20000 people trying to burn down a city.


#266

Gared

Gared

I thought you were only supposed to riot when your team won... or if it was a futbol match... or possibly cricket.


#267

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Stay classy, Vancouver:


#268

Frank

Frankie Williamson

My little brother's girlfriend was apparently there at ground zero, not because she gave a shit about hockey but because her and some girlfriends she was vacationing with were drinking in a bar. She got tear gassed.

Not her in picture above.


#269

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Going on 3am East Coast time. Riots are still going.

Not a celebration, not a protest. Just idiots behaving like animals.


#270

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

The VPD thanks you:


#271

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Honestly... I wish the cops used more tear gas on these motherfuckers. Can we just round up these morons and send them to Libya or something?


#272

Jay

Jay

Here's my take on this.

If you're THERE you should be as fair game as those committing these acts. You're not helping matters being part of the scene and part of the problem. Go home or else expect to feel some pain.

Everyone should be free game to the police during THESE type of riots.

Absolutely useless.


#273

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

The difference between the U.S.ofA. and Canada...

We riot when we win.


#274

jwhouk

jwhouk

And I thought it was unclassy when they basically drowned out Bettman after handing over the Connie and Lord Stanley.

Sorry, not gonna feel sorry for them. In the long run, as nice as the Cup is, and as much as it means to people in the hockey world - it's still just a game. I've been in those same shoes before, and I don't particularly remember those of us in Milwaukee rioting when the Hershey Bears were skating around on our ice with the Calder Cup. We were far from happy, but we also knew life went on.

Things like this are reasons why I say "Make it FIVE."

Now, you'll excuse me while I go wait for training camp to start in October.


#275

Jay

Jay

sixpackshaker said:
The difference between the U.S.ofA. and Canada...

We riot when we win.
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Don't be fucken stupid.


#276

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Jay said:
Don't be fucken stupid.
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Bite me, eh


#277

Jay

Jay

jwhouk said:
Things like this are reasons why I say "Make it FIVE."
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Surely you mean 6.
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sixpackshaker said:
Bite me, eh
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I would do far more than bite.


#278

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Sorry, I go for the ladies.


#279

Jay

Jay

That's not what I meant but hey, it's the Texan way to assume things wrong.


#280

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Don't be fucken stupid.


#281

Jay

Jay

Ah say y'all be friggin' stoopid! Git off mah land boay, ah know maaaah hockey an' mah opinion is import TANT! GAWD BLESS AMERICAAAAWWW


#282

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Who pissed in your Tim Horton's?

Oh yeah, Boston.


#283

Jay

Jay

DarkAudit said:
The VPD thanks you:
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/06/16/bc-riot-vancouver-facebook.html

The hammer will come hard down on a lot of people.


#284

Frank

Frankie Williamson

jwhouk said:
And I thought it was unclassy when they basically drowned out Bettman after handing over the Connie and Lord Stanley.
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There's never a wrong reason to boo Bettman.

Also, in case Jay was wondering, I wasn't mad about my future sister-in-law getting tear gassed. I knew she would be fine, she's a tough girl. She should have bolted at the first sign of that crap.


#285

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

It's really rather sad that the accomplishments of both teams and players are now gone from the media and we are left talking about the least of society.

Congrats to the Bruins for winning the Cup!
Well done Tim Tomas, oldest Con Smythe trophy winner in history.
Thanks for all the memories Mark Recchi!
Looking forward to seeing Marchand parade the cup around Halifax!


#286

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

I was thinkin' that too. The stories about the game and about the cup run are all buried under the stories of the riots.


#287

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

checkeredhat said:
I was thinkin' that too. The stories about the game and about the cup run are all buried under the stories of the riots.
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2 things,

1. I really don't like that the Reuters Articles all mention Boston in the headline. Like "Boston's Victory Marred By Violence" Just make the headline about Vancouver. Boston did not really have anything to do with the riot.

2. Every LA Laker NBA Championship over the last 12 or so years have been marred by the violence that happened after they won. I felt like Kobe should do his civic duty and throw the championship just to save LA the millions of dollars needed for the clean-up.


#288

Jay

Jay

She should have bolted at the first sign of that crap.
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Not blaming your sister at all but let me tell you if most people NOT involved in the riot would leave at LEAST 80% of people would leave, causing a lot of issue for the rioters as they are incredibly easy to find and subdue. In fact, they'll probably leave as well as they have no where to hide within a crowd.

I played Assassin's Creed and this is my opinion.
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This is why I feel the cops should warn people a fixed number of times and then start to disperse the crowd with stronger methods. As someone who loves the sport and loves his city I cannot abide for this bullshit.

When the riots happened in MTL a few years back a personal friend put facebook pictures up him at the event and doing classless shit. I saved everything and took printscreens of the comments. The next day I sent an email to my friend (who's also a client, remember I work in the security field) at the SPVM and sent him the data package.

My friend got picked up by the police who knocked at his door 2 days later.

He was charged and convicted and spent 4 months in jail, directly because of me and he never found out.

I unfriended him soon afterwards.

I would do it again.


#289

Covar

Covar

In 09 when the hurricanes lost the Eastern Conference Finals, many fans stayed and cheered to congratulate the Pens.

...and I thought LeBron was classless with his remarks when the Heat lost.


#290

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

This year I was in attendance when the Houston Aeros lost game 7 of the Calder Cup Finals, and I stayed and cheered the champions, bla bla bla. Even though it really sucked and I was super depressed afterwards.

Also, for the record, Gary Bettman deserves to be booed at every opportunity. He's a shitty commish.


#291

Adam

Adammon

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Also, for the record, Gary Bettman deserves to be booed at every opportunity. He's a shitty commish.
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+1. The only thing Boston and Vancouver fans had in common last night was the hatred for Buttman.


#292

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Jay said:
Not blaming your sister at all but let me tell you if most people NOT involved in the riot would leave at LEAST 80% of people would leave, causing a lot of issue for the rioters as they are incredibly easy to find and subdue. In fact, they'll probably leave as well as they have no where to hide within a crowd.

I played Assassin's Creed and this is my opinion.
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This is why I feel the cops should warn people a fixed number of times and then start to disperse the crowd with stronger methods. As someone who loves the sport and loves his city I cannot abide for this bullshit.

When the riots happened in MTL a few years back a personal friend put facebook pictures up him at the event and doing classless shit. I saved everything and took printscreens of the comments. The next day I sent an email to my friend (who's also a client, remember I work in the security field) at the SPVM and sent him the data package.

My friend got picked up by the police who knocked at his door 2 days later.

He was charged and convicted and spent 4 months in jail, directly because of me and he never found out.

I unfriended him soon afterwards.

I would do it again.
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I agree with the statements on people leaving. I've never had to do any sort of riot duty (this town is small and stupid) and I dread the day I would be called on to do so.


#293

Adam

Adammon

It's funny. Before the game, there were tonnes of jokes on my Facebook feed from Vancouverites saying "Hey, looters, pick me up an Ipad while you're out there."

Not so many jokes now.

I have to agree with Jay. Even the people taking pictures/video are part of the problem. Just leave, it's not hard to get out of Vancouver. If you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Standing by (and cheering) the rioters may not make you culpable for the damage done, but it certainly makes you an idiot.


#294

Gared

Gared

The one that got me was this morning on the news, one of the political commentators from later in the day's programming said we needed to "give the rioters a break" because "if this was a tyrannical society we'd be cheering on the rioters and calling this Canadian Spring." No we wouldn't. This is a bunch of stupid, drunk, 20-something sports fans who are pissed because their team lost. If it were Iran and a bunch of morons were rioting because their sports team lost a championship, we wouldn't be cheering them on.


#295

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I'm sure the businesses that were looted and the property owners who's things were ruined agree, BREAKS FOR EVERYONE!


#296

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Canada_Sparta.jpg


#297

Frank

Frankie Williamson

All I'm reading are reports that police weren't brutal enough.

WHICH IS IT PUBLIC AT LARGE?

WHO DO YOU WANT TO SHOW UP?

Where is the magic line the media and the public want the police to walk?


#298

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

More tear gas! More batons! BLEEEAARRGGGHHHH!!!!!

:D

Personally... in riot situations (especially over bullshit like this)... I'm all for the police using everything they've got to disperse the crowds.


#299

Frank

Frankie Williamson

If they had today there would be a public outcry and headlines like: Police Brutally Savage Brave Party Goers Just Out for a Good Time.


#300

Adam

Adammon

Gared said:
If it were Iran and a bunch of morons were rioting because their sports team lost a championship, we wouldn't be cheering them on.
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No, because they'd be dead.


#301

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Frankie Williamson said:
All I'm reading are reports that police weren't brutal enough.

WHICH IS IT PUBLIC AT LARGE?

WHO DO YOU WANT TO SHOW UP?

Where is the magic line the media and the public want the police to walk?
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We want you to look the other way as costumed vigilantes kick the rioter asses 8 ways from Sunday.

Then say "Sorry guys. Don't start nuthin', won't be nuthin.".


#302

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

This wasn't disappointed hockey fans. This was preplanned. Hockey fans don't bring balaclavas, bricks, and molotov cocktails to the game.


#303

Far

Far

Adammon said:
It's funny. Before the game, there were tonnes of jokes on my Facebook feed from Vancouverites saying "Hey, looters, pick me up an Ipad while you're out there."

Not so many jokes now.

I have to agree with Jay. Even the people taking pictures/video are part of the problem. Just leave, it's not hard to get out of Vancouver. If you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Standing by (and cheering) the rioters may not make you culpable for the damage done, but it certainly makes you an idiot.
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I agree with everything said here except it being easy to get out of Vancouver, at least last night anyway. Soon after the trouble started the skytrains, buses and bridges out were closed with only the skytrains coming back up later in the evening. In no way do I condone what happened though at all.


#304

Jay

Jay

DarkAudit said:
This wasn't disappointed hockey fans. This was preplanned. Hockey fans don't bring balaclavas, bricks, and molotov cocktails to the game.
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Pretty much this.

I've never seen so many crowbars in my life beyond watching Mad Max and playing System Shock 2.


#305

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

That sounds a bit like the Battle of Seattle. I made a complaint about how the riot was planned and a fellow teacher jumped down my throat, saying it was the Police Brutality that set the riot off. Then I asked her where they got the bricks, crowbars, Molotov Cocktail Launchers and masks.


#306

Jay

Jay

At Tim Hortons


#307

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

And it comes full circle.


#308

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Jay said:
This is why I feel the cops should warn people a fixed number of times and then start to disperse the crowd with stronger methods. As someone who loves the sport and loves his city I cannot abide for this bullshit.

When the riots happened in MTL a few years back a personal friend put facebook pictures up him at the event and doing classless shit. I saved everything and took printscreens of the comments. The next day I sent an email to my friend (who's also a client, remember I work in the security field) at the SPVM and sent him the data package.

My friend got picked up by the police who knocked at his door 2 days later.

He was charged and convicted and spent 4 months in jail, directly because of me and he never found out.

I unfriended him soon afterwards.

I would do it again.
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I don't have a problem with this.

And after careful consideration, I have to say I really don't have a problem with you... sir.

However, I reserve the right to call you an asshole when situations warrant. And when it's funny. :awesome:

(BTW, I'm not Korean.)


#309

Gared

Gared

Adammon said:
No, because they'd be dead.
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Exactly. But even if it were someplace less likely to result in immediate death, the point remains. If this were a riot about government austerity measures and disappearing freedoms, or 40 or 50 years of dictatorship concealed as democracy, then yes, they'd probably be getting some support right now. As it is, these are just a bunch of anarchist fuckwads who decided to take advantage of a crowded night. I wouldn't support a bunch of anarchist fuckwads in Iran, Syria, China, the UK, Ireland, etc., and I won't support them in Vancouver either.


#310

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Rioting for the lulz, you deserve to get your head kicked in.


#311



Disconnected

It's easy to get out of vancouver. It's not easy to get to the north shore though.


#312

Far

Far

Normally.


#313

Jay

Jay

BOOM

http://thedirty.com/2011/06/nationa...tylak-lighting-a-cop-car-on-fire-during-riot/
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DarkAudit said:
I don't have a problem with this.

And after careful consideration, I have to say I really don't have a problem with you... sir.

However, I reserve the right to call you an asshole when situations warrant. And when it's funny. :awesome:

(BTW, I'm not Korean.)
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I appreciate this post and will strive to be less Jay with you in the future, when applicable.


#314

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Good.

On that kid getting caught.

I don't mind the Jayness.


#315

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

I hope they throw the book at these punk pieces of shit. Make an example of them so people might think twice next time before destroying things for no reason.


#316

jwhouk

jwhouk

A couple of final comments about the rioting and boorish behavior of VAN fans: First, it was painfully obvious that the rioting had nothing to do with the game. Part of me wonders if SE BC has a gang problem of some sort, since this strikes me as not only something organized, but something that has been sustained.

Second, it's one thing to boo Bettman (sorry, my people in Nashville couldn't bring themselves to do it, I'd think; he actually did more to make sure we stayed in Nashville than anyone else, save the current ownership group), but it's another thing to throw bottles and trash onto the ice as the captain of the other team is lifting the Cup and skating around the ice with it.

Take a look at the presentation video, right after Chara skates off with it, about 1:30 into the clip - you'll see several things fly onto the ice in the background:



Sorry, but that's beyond classless.

<--- MOVING ON --->

The good news for the day: the Predators have filed for arbitration with our Captain, Shea Freakin' Weber. This means that we're serious about re-signing him, and that we're committed to paying him whatever it takes to keep him (since we don't have walk-away rights when it's club-filed arbitration). I am mega happy. :D


#317

Mathias

Mathias

It was good to see Recchi get the Cup.


#318

Adam

Adammon

Mathias said:
It was good to see Recchi get the Cup.
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Dude won one 5 years ago, how many does he get?


#319

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Mathias said:
It was good to see Recchi get the another Cup.
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Isn't this his third cup win? *looks it up*
'91 with Pittsburg
'06 with Carolina
'11 with Boston


#320

Jay

Jay

Fuck Dr. Reechi and the horse he rode on.


#321

Covar

Covar

Jay said:
Fuck Dr. Reechi and the horse he rode on.
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you should riot.


#322

jwhouk

jwhouk

Time to move on to next year.


#323

blotsfan

blotsfan

Well, I'm really hoping Zack Kassian is gonna make the Sabres. He kept getting suspended in the juniors for being a thug, but I think once he gets to the NHL and is playing against NHL players he'll just be sort of a tough guy. Patrick Kaleta is having problems and he could be a replacement.


#324

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Ryan Smyth wants to finish his career with the Oilers. Now, though he's getting up there, he's still a great player but I don't know if he'd be worth what the Kings would want for him. Either way, I'd like him back in Edmonton, he was the heart and soul of the Oilers for more than a decade.


#325

jwhouk

jwhouk

It's official: http://winnipeg.nhl.com


#326

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

jwhouk said:
It's official: http://winnipeg.nhl.com
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J-E-T-S


#327

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Good.

Fuck, you got my hopes up man, I thought they were officially the Jets.


#328

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Frankie Williamson said:
Good.

Fuck, you got my hopes up man, I thought they were officially the Jets.
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Really, now. Can there be any doubt? The fans in Winnipeg wouldn't stand for anything else, would they?


#329

Jay

Jay

I don't even understand why the name cannot return. Because the fucken idiots over in Pheonix cannot let go of the name and make a few bucks?


#330

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Jay said:
I don't even understand why the name cannot return. Because the fucken idiots over in Pheonix cannot let go of the name and make a few bucks?
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Since the league owns the Coyotes, there's not much at issue there.

If they try for the Moose, there will be consequences...


#331

klew

klew

I'll be unoriginal and leave this joke:


#332

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Awards tonight, draft on Friday and free agency next week, it's the most exciting week of NHL action all year (not involving hockey)!!!


#333

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Jay said:
I don't even understand why the name cannot return. Because the fucken idiots over in Pheonix cannot let go of the name and make a few bucks?
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Bettman said he'd let them have the name.

The only reason its probably not going to happen, is because everyone in Winnipeg already has Jets jerseys. It'd severely cut the profit to be made, even if they revamped the logo most would still wear the old one. Instead, they'll have a new team name, probably with a fugly logo like all the new teams get, and then they can sell thousands of new jerseys, thus keeping the other southern teams afloat via NHL's profit sharing. Then they'll have themselves a Winter Classic type game where they wear their "vintage" Jets jerseys that will again, sell like hotcakes.
Profit.


#334

Covar

Covar

I'd laugh if they just keep the Thrashers


#335

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Manitoba Moose, Winnipeg Warthogs, Prairie Dogs, The Mighty Gophers of Winnipeg, The Winnipeg Bettmans, Manitoba Polar Bears, The OMG it's Cold Igloos...


#336

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

So the birthplace of professional hockey is losing another team to the neighbors to the north.


#337

Covar

Covar

Atlanta?


#338

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

The United States.


#339

Frank

Frankie Williamson

sixpackshaker said:
The United States.
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Wat?


#340

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Frankie Williamson said:
Wat?
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He said professional hockey. The International Professional Hockey League, the first professional league was formed in the United States. In Canada, there was still significant opposition to allowing athletes to be paid to play sports and supported amateur only leagues and banned all paid athletes.


#341

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Yeah, I wasn't really thinking there. The IPHL was still founded by a Canadian.


#342

Covar

Covar

Does it really matter anyway? The NHL is a Canadian league where the majority of teams are in America. Can't we all just get along?


#343

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

It was just a little trivial pot stirring.


#344

jwhouk

jwhouk

They will be the Manitoba Moose. Makes way too much sense. No money needs to be spent; they can just switch the jersey from the AHL ones; they already own the rights to the name and logo; and they don't have to futz around with the Jets logo or history.

Sorry, Jets fans.


#345

Vrii

Vrii

What the fuck are the Flyers doing?


#346

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Vrii said:
What the fuck are the Flyers doing?
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Gunning for Brad Richards and clearing cap space. They got Brayden Schenn! What was LA thinking!


#347

Vrii

Vrii

HCGLNS said:
Gunning for Brad Richards and clearing cap space. They got Brayden Schenn! What was LA thinking!
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At a guess? "Hey, we can trade him for somebody who's already better than Schenn will ever be". Nevermind that this sets the Kings up to actually make a push in the playoffs - Richards and Kopitar as the top two centers is pretty solid.


#348

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

It goes against everything the Kings did this year to protect Schenn. I do not like the Bryzgalov signing, 9 years is too much.

Columbus deal was fantastic for Philly though.


#349

Vrii

Vrii

The Carter deal I was fine with - they freed up the space for Bryz, got a decent forward back, plus a good pick and an okay one. Jackets got the best player and a forward to (finally) give Nash some support. Good trade for both.

Bryz signing is absurd. The Flyers already have a good, young goalie in Bobrovsky, and signing Bryzgalov for so long - and so much money - pretty much ensures that he'll never get a realistic shot to take over; see Schneider in Vancouver.

The Richards trade just looks awful for the Flyers. Yeah, they get a highly-regarded prospect and a second/third-line forward, but they traded their captain, and someone who's miles better than either player coming back, now and in the foreseeable future. I have to imagine there were major issues with him as the captain/conflict with Pronger and/or the coach, because otherwise the trade just doesn't make sense. Particularly given that they already gained their cap space in the first trade, and that Schenn/Simmonds will make about as much combined as Richards was.

Overall, it looks like the Flyers got much, much worse today, and I don't understand it.


#350

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Not necessarily. One of the primary changes in the new NHL is the need for overall NHL/AHL team depth. The Flyers gave up 2 players and gained 6 in return, so they have gained valuable depth. I think the days of huge trades of significant impact players are dwindling in the modern injury plagued NHL.


#351

Covar

Covar

NHL needs to start a reorg for 2012-13. Or at least change the division names. Its ridiculous that we have Winnipeg in the "Southeast division."

About as dumb as the Cowboys in the NFC East come to think of it.


#352

Vrii

Vrii

HCGLNS said:
The Flyers gave up 2 players and gained 6 in return, so they have gained valuable depth.
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They also gave up two first line quality players, and got back zero. Voracek should be a second liner, Schenn will be lucky to stick in the top 6 in his first season, and doesn't really project to be a scorer at the level of Richards and Carter, and Simmonds is a quality third line player.Who are they counting on to score goals now?

Philly's team offense dropped significantly today, and given Bryz's last couple playoffs, they look a hell of a lot less scary than they did the past couple seasons.


#353

Jay

Jay

Obviously, it is front ended for big bucks... but who would have paid anywhere as close to what they did anyways? I understand the need, Flyers always had shitty goalies but 6M a year? For 9 years (though since he's under 35 it won't matter if he retired 6-7 years into the contract).

What a terrible contract to Bryz.

And the trades were steals for Columbus and L.A. Lucky bastard, would have liked to have Carter in MTL.


#354

jwhouk

jwhouk

I'm sorry, but I REFUSE to purchase the new Predators jerseys. Someone at RBK needs to be shot if they thought the blue-yellow-white color scheme was going to work.


#355

Covar

Covar

jwhouk said:
I'm sorry, but I REFUSE to purchase the new Predators jerseys. Someone at RBK needs to be shot if they thought the blue-yellow-white color scheme was going to work.
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Hey this is the company that makes the Minnesota Wild sweaters. Does it really surprise you?


#356

blotsfan

blotsfan

Covar said:
NHL needs to start a reorg for 2012-13. Or at least change the division names. Its ridiculous that we have Winnipeg in the "Southeast division."

About as dumb as the Cowboys in the NFC East come to think of it.
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I think they've said the current scenario is only for next year and the move is on too short notice to completely alter the schedule.


#357

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

blotsfan said:
I think they've said the current scenario is only for next year and the move is on too short notice to completely alter the schedule.
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That was my impression too, I believe the schedule is already out.
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And the Cowboys stayed in the East because the other 3 teams wanted to keep the competition high. Since Arizona was in the East too (dang near on the west coast,) it was easier to let them go instead of the Cowboys.


#358

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Multiple news sources say Winnipeg will be the Jets. Official announcement expected tonight.


#359

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Yeah, just waiting on the new radical look sweater and team logo. Not because history means nothing, but hubba hubba hubba money money money we gotta sell new sweaters!


#360

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Fuck. You. Calgary.


#361

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Is it the Stampede already?


#362

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

And it's official they are the Jets and their first pick is Mark Scheifele.

And no official sweater, just a lame NHL sweater.


#363

Mathias

Mathias

Vrii said:
The Carter deal I was fine with - they freed up the space for Bryz, got a decent forward back, plus a good pick and an okay one. Jackets got the best player and a forward to (finally) give Nash some support. Good trade for both.

Bryz signing is absurd. The Flyers already have a good, young goalie in Bobrovsky, and signing Bryzgalov for so long - and so much money - pretty much ensures that he'll never get a realistic shot to take over; see Schneider in Vancouver.

The Richards trade just looks awful for the Flyers. Yeah, they get a highly-regarded prospect and a second/third-line forward, but they traded their captain, and someone who's miles better than either player coming back, now and in the foreseeable future. I have to imagine there were major issues with him as the captain/conflict with Pronger and/or the coach, because otherwise the trade just doesn't make sense. Particularly given that they already gained their cap space in the first trade, and that Schenn/Simmonds will make about as much combined as Richards was.

Overall, it looks like the Flyers got much, much worse today, and I don't understand it.
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From the rumors I heard, Richards was not well liked in the locker room.


#364

jwhouk

jwhouk

The road whites look tolerable. And I do like what they did for the collar ("NASHVILLE" on the outside, Piano keys on the inside).

The home Yellows, however... they may make me long for the Mustards.


#365

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Columbus, you are busy little beavers aren't you? Trading a draft pick for the right to talk to a player for what, 30 hours?


#366

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Jagr and Talbot to Philly. Phuck.


#367

blotsfan

blotsfan

HCGLNS said:
Columbus, you are busy little beavers aren't you? Trading a draft pick for the right to talk to a player for what, 30 hours?
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Worked for the Sabres.


#368

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

It's nice to see the smaller market teams get coverage in the news these days.


#369

jwhouk

jwhouk

Wish it was for better reasons, though.


#370

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

9 yrs $60 million for Brad Richards and the New York Rangers. Not a fan of that deal.


#371

jwhouk

jwhouk

Boy, isn't this going to give the NHL fodder for a salary cap when the CBA expires.

...Oh, wait...


#372

Vrii

Vrii

4.75 per for Tim Connolly, 1.5 for Tomas Vokoun. Things just get crazier.


#373

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

What an odd trade Toronto and Nashville just made. Nashville gets a defenseman who didn't find a way to contribute to the Leafs and a forward that just made he way up to the AHL. Toronto gets a defenseman who does contribute and a forward who lost the season due to injury. With a draft pick swap thrown in based upon the health of the player.


#374

jwhouk

jwhouk

It was strictly a move to get Lombardi off our books. Franson was what made it happen. We can replace him, though.


#375

Vrii

Vrii

Havlat for Heatley now.


#376

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

HCGLNS said:
9 yrs $60 million for Brad Richards and the New York Rangers. Not a fan of that deal.
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The Rangers will pay Richards $50 million in the first five years of the contract, including $24 million in the first two years, $18 million of which is structured as a signing bonus and protected against the possibility of a lockout in 2012-13.
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So what is the average cap hit for this and why bother making a cap if the owners keep abusing it. :facepalm:


#377

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Vrii said:
Havlat for Heatley now.
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:eek: Heatley.... gone?:Leyla:


#378

Vrii

Vrii

I might have to stop cheering for San Jose to lose, now.


#379

Jay

Jay

You from Edmonton or Ottawa?


#380

Vrii

Vrii

Live closer to Toronto, Sens fan though.


#381

Jay

Jay

I'm a Habs fan and I don't like Heatley neither.


#382

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Most of league doesn't like Heatley, kills a guy while playing in Atlanta, escapes to Ottawa only to treat the management like trash, chokes like a butcher on Thanksgiving in San Jose and now off to torment a new group of fans and followers.


#383

jwhouk

jwhouk

A new group of fans who will dislike him because he wore Badger colors in college.


#384

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

J-E-T-S, meh! Meh! Meh!

Uniwatch has a good litmus test, "is it good or is it stupid?" This is worse. It's boring.


#385

Vrii

Vrii

Yeah, that's just a bland logo. Disappointing.


#386

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Other than the JETS font. I don't dislike it at all.

Looks better than:


#387

Adam

Adammon

I love love love the rondel with the Jet/Maple Leaf combination in the middle. Love it. The Jets word mark is bland and uninspiring and I'm not particularly fond of the winged hockey stick one. But I'll buy a jersey tomorrow if the main logo is the rondel with the little logos on the arms.

I will not buy if it just says Jets in the goofy type.


#388

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

The Jets type reminds me strongly of the Jays logo even with colouring.


#389

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

I like it. I was worried they were going to go and do something crazy and ugly like always. This "boring" logo, I am thankful for. The best logos in the NHL are the so-called "boring" (Some might say simple, or even classic) logos of teams like Boston, Toronto, Montreal, St Louis, and Philly. This isn't nearly as iconic, but I'm glad its not as bad as the current Buffalo logo, or Anaheim, Columbus, Minnesota, Florida, etc.

But yeah, that font. I don't know.... seems too baseball-y.


#390

Covar

Covar

HCGLNS said:
The Jets type reminds me strongly of the Jays logo even with colouring.
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I was thinking the same thing.


#391

blotsfan

blotsfan

checkeredhat said:
I like it. I was worried they were going to go and do something crazy and ugly like always. This "boring" logo, I am thankful for. The best logos in the NHL are the so-called "boring" (Some might say simple, or even classic) logos of teams like Boston, Toronto, Montreal, St Louis, and Philly. This isn't nearly as iconic, but I'm glad its not as bad as the current Buffalo logo, or Anaheim, Columbus, Minnesota, Florida, etc.

But yeah, that font. I don't know.... seems too baseball-y.
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I assume you're talking about the slug, which we've gotten rid of. We're back to the classic one.



#392

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

blotsfan said:
I assume you're talking about the slug, which we've gotten rid of. We're back to the classic one.

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Oh, I didn't know they had switched back. That is what I meant. The Slug thing is horrible. The original one is one of the best sports logos, like, ever.


#393

jwhouk

jwhouk

Meanwhile, they've butchered my favorite logo. And who was the guy who thought, "Hey, they'd look GREAT in canary yellow!" ???

EDIT: For clarification:


#394

Timmus

Timmus

jwhouk said:
Meanwhile, they've butchered my favorite logo. And who was the guy who thought, "Hey, they'd look GREAT in canary yellow!" ???

EDIT: For clarification:
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It kind of looks like a college team as opposed to an nhl team now.


#395

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

.... I actually thought the old Nashville logo was just as ugly.


#396

Timmus

Timmus

well its the same but with less silver


#397

jwhouk

jwhouk

More like NO silver.


#398

Timmus

Timmus

100% less silver...

...god I hate summer.


#399

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Huh, you're right. No silver. This is actually slightly less ugly.


#400

Covar

Covar

Nashville now looks like the Buffalo Sabers :rimshot:


#401

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Uniwatch gave the Nashville logo set rather good marks... until they appeared on the uniforms. Then the ratings went straight to stupid.


#402

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

I don't know, their logo,(And also Florida's) seem very NFL to me. I feel like the NBA, NHL, the MLB, and the NFL each have very distinct styles, for the most part. The NHL style, to me, is as I said, based around those simple iconic designs and colours. Maybe it comes from being Canadian, and the difference in the media coverage here as compared to in the States, but it always seems to me that the NHL is pretty stubborn in the way it clings to traditions and the romanticism of its past.
The newer teams, with the newer logos, have a very distinct style in their uniforms (and in some cases, the "Ice Girls"), which it seems to me comes from a very blatant attempt to try and appeal to the NFL crowd. Its not ACTUALLY ugly, it just seems out of place to me. But to be fair, the majority of the NHL logos now seem to fall into that category, so maybe its the older style that is really out of place.

If we're talking ACTUALLY ugly logos, then we're talking about Phoenix. Yeesh.


#403

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

This is officially the worst summer ever for hockey.

Lokomotiv Yarosavl team of the Russian KHL killed in plane crash. Many NHLers were on board.


#404

Jay

Jay

My condolences to all those involved and affected by the tragic plane crash in Russia. Yet another bad day for hockey this summer.


#405

jwhouk

jwhouk

...

Karlis was my favorite player.

This summer sucks, hockey-wise.


#406

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

THURSDAY.....


#407

Covar

Covar

FRIDAY...

I have tickets :D


#408

Timmus

Timmus

Thursday/ Friday morning.

Thats what i get for being in China.


#409

blotsfan

blotsfan

FRIDAY BEFORE YOU GUYS WHO AREN'T PLAYING IN EUROPE.


#410

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

And Sunday will be the first game for the new Winnipeg Jets. Kinda looking forward to that. Big three hour pre-game hoo-hah on Canadian Thanksgiving. :D (We're probably not going to watch the 3 hour ceremony, but I'll definitely watch the game).


#411

Timmus

Timmus

yeah I'm gonna catch that too


#412

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Man, both games this weekend were pretty disappointing. The Leafs nearly blew a massive lead. 6-5. The defense just went to sleep. And the Jets lost 5-1 on home ice.


#413

jwhouk

jwhouk

The Jets got thrashed in their home opener.

(Yeah, I went there.)


#414

Timmus

Timmus

checkeredhat said:
Man, both games this weekend were pretty disappointing. The Leafs nearly blew a massive lead. 6-5. The defense just went to sleep. And the Jets lost 5-1 on home ice.
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Dude it's still early. A W is a W and maybe that's the win that gets them into the playoffs this year. As for the Jets...well last year they were the thrashers it's going to take awhile before they are actually good.


#415

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

The Leafs actually played a good game, for the first two periods. They just did what they always do and got too comfortable with the lead. The D fell apart, and although I think Reimer's good, he's not good enough to carry the team on his own if his Defensemen aren't pulling their weight.
On the flipside, what the Jets seriously need more than anything, is a more solid goaltender.
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And Kessel with a hat-trick was nice, too.


#416

blotsfan

blotsfan

Ugh. I understand we have to get acclimated to the time zone, but I hate having to wait 6 days for another Sabres game.


#417

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Do agents earn money when a player is suspended?


#418

blotsfan

blotsfan

I think their salary is just based off the total value of the contract.


#419

Vrii

Vrii

Sens win!


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